DO hispanics have African descent?

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Since: Jul 09

Boston, MA

#1 Jul 30, 2009
I ask this Bcuz i see hispanics can rang from different colors and have the same hairstlyes as African-americans and hispanic and black woman share the same Body structure and can have similar features?

“The Ah-Nizzle”

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Since: Nov 07

Los Angeles

#2 Jul 30, 2009
ladiezman16 wrote:
I ask this Bcuz i see hispanics can rang from different colors and have the same hairstlyes as African-americans and hispanic and black woman share the same Body structure and can have similar features?
I`m one of them. I`m half Afro-Brasilian and Half Nigerian. Trust me dude. Thiers more brothers that speak Portugese and Spanish than English in the Western Hemisphere

Since: Jul 09

Philadelphia, PA

#3 Jul 30, 2009
Yes they do? they are mix with Africans, spaniards, and Indians (could be east indians and native Americans). and most of them would want to erase the african sise of them, by bleaching their hair, and make it straight all the time. Especially Dominicans from dominican republic. them mofos swear they don't have black in them because for centuries their government have been tellnig them that they don't have african blood, they are simply indians thats why their skin is black. go do some reaserh on google and see what you can come up with.

“Reppin the 708”

Since: Nov 08

Harvey, IL

#4 Jul 30, 2009
It depends on what Hispanics you're talking about. Argentinians, Salvadorian, Mexicans, and most of Central America is non black/African. Mexico is just 1%
Pere du Champ

Charlottesville, VA

#5 Jul 30, 2009
Each Latin American country is different, and sometimes between regions of the same country.

Brazil: more Africans than any other American country.
Caribbean: generally mixed African and Spanish, some Native (DR, PR, Cuba)
Mexico-Central America: mostly Native, with Spanish mix, some African, some other; along the Caribbean coast of some countries there are English-speaking black people. There are also Garifuna, who are of Carib Native culture, but predominantly of African descent, since the Africans who assimilated to Carib culture outnumbered the Carib themselves. The Mexican gene pool has been estimated at 80% Native, 9% European, 6% black African, 5% other (Filipino, Chinese, Jew, Berber, Roma).
Andean S America: similar to Mexico, mostly Native
southern S America: mostly European, some Natives in more remote areas.

“Reppin the 708”

Since: Nov 08

Harvey, IL

#6 Jul 30, 2009
Pere du Champ wrote:
Each Latin American country is different, and sometimes between regions of the same country.
Brazil: more Africans than any other American country.
Caribbean: generally mixed African and Spanish, some Native (DR, PR, Cuba)
Mexico-Central America: mostly Native, with Spanish mix, some African, some other; along the Caribbean coast of some countries there are English-speaking black people. There are also Garifuna, who are of Carib Native culture, but predominantly of African descent, since the Africans who assimilated to Carib culture outnumbered the Carib themselves. The Mexican gene pool has been estimated at 80% Native, 9% European, 6% black African, 5% other (Filipino, Chinese, Jew, Berber, Roma).
Andean S America: similar to Mexico, mostly Native
southern S America: mostly European, some Natives in more remote areas.
Do you have a link about the average Mexican genetic make up. Very interesing. I seen some that can easily be seen as Native American. Its funny how Hispanics are counted as White Americans on census and not Native American.

“Reppin the 708”

Since: Nov 08

Harvey, IL

#7 Jul 30, 2009
King Goku Xlll wrote:
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Do you have a link about the average Mexican genetic make up. Very interesing. I seen some that can easily be seen as Native American. Its funny how Hispanics are counted as White Americans on census and not Native American.
or Mixed race, especially Mexicans & PRs.

“The Ah-Nizzle”

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Since: Nov 07

Los Angeles

#8 Jul 30, 2009
King Goku Xlll wrote:
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Do you have a link about the average Mexican genetic make up. Very interesing. I seen some that can easily be seen as Native American. Its funny how Hispanics are counted as White Americans on census and not Native American.
Alot of Mexicans have Italian, French, Irish, Jewish, Sottish ancestors. Alot of mMxican families chose not to marry Mestizo`s or the natives. Just like how some Creoles only date/mate with light skinned people. Having that catagorey is justified because alot of them are geneticcly more European than Indian.

Mexico did import over 100,000 slaves pre thier independance from Spain. Some of those slaves got sent to other Latin American nations and some just intermarried into the Mexican population. They don`t "Black" on the Mexican census, so it`s hard to get an accurate account of thier numbers

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Since: Nov 08

Harvey, IL

#9 Jul 30, 2009
King Ahzi wrote:
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Alot of Mexicans have Italian, French, Irish, Jewish, Sottish ancestors. Alot of mMxican families chose not to marry Mestizo`s or the natives. Just like how some Creoles only date/mate with light skinned people. Having that catagorey is justified because alot of them are geneticcly more European than Indian.
Mexico did import over 100,000 slaves pre thier independance from Spain. Some of those slaves got sent to other Latin American nations and some just intermarried into the Mexican population. They don`t "Black" on the Mexican census, so it`s hard to get an accurate account of thier numbers
That maybe true, but they are not socially seen as white, despite Hispanics are counted as white on census. And beside, most Hispanics in the US are mixed race. Most Mexicans here are Mestizo, some Indian. Now on other hand Cuban Americans are white. But in Cuba, its a different story.
Cornellius Washington

Battle Creek, MI

#10 Jul 30, 2009
Depends if they are Dominican or Cuban or Puerto Rican there is a higher chance! If they are Mexican or Central American then they are most likely Spanish/Native Indian!
Pere du Champ

Charlottesville, VA

#11 Jul 30, 2009
I will look for links. I read these studies some time ago, regarding Mexican DNA.

Mexico has not maintained people segregated in the way of the USA, so Africans there were assimilated. Some were slaves brought through Veracruz. Others were runaway slaves from gringos in TX, who settled mostly around Monterrey and were absorbed.

Mexicans who look Spanish, Native and African to this day will see each other as Mexicans, though they will comment on how dark or light someone is. Since there is often great color variation within a family, the racism about this is not nearly as intense as that of the USA.

Many mainstream "mestizo" Mexicans in reality have little or no European blood and many are pureblood Native. The difference between them and identified Native people (Maya, Mixteca, Otomí, Huichol, Huasteca, Tarahumara, Yaquí, etc.) is that in the mainstream they are mixed. The Spanish resettled people forcibly on encomiendas where they were "reduced"... meaning mixed by nation and forced to adopt Spanish language and Spanish feudal society. So, many mainstream Mexicans may be fullblood Native, but they will usually be mixed between Yaquí, Apache, Zacateco, or whatever.

“The Ah-Nizzle”

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Since: Nov 07

Los Angeles

#12 Jul 31, 2009
King Goku Xlll wrote:
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That maybe true, but they are not socially seen as white, despite Hispanics are counted as white on census. And beside, most Hispanics in the US are mixed race. Most Mexicans here are Mestizo, some Indian. Now on other hand Cuban Americans are white. But in Cuba, its a different story.
Hispanics are not actually considered white as a whole on the census. It may read as so:

Chicano
Hispanic
Hispanic-Other
Hispanic-(African descent)
Hisppanic-(White)

Most latinos would probably mark Hispanic only or Hispanic white.
Pere du Champ

Morgantown, WV

#13 Jul 31, 2009
It depends on the list. There is also a category, "white, not Hispanic" LOL. You claim most "Latinos" would mark white... this is not true. The list usually includes a "Latin American" choice, and often "Mexican".

Obviously the understanding in the USA of Latin American cultures is lacking, since nobody seems to be able to make an accurate checklist for ethnicity.

The most obnoxious thing about those lists is that they often say, "check only one". LOL...

A hell of a lot of people could check more than one even without having mixed parentage. Logically most Mexicans could check "Native American" as well as "Hispanic/Latino" and the "Mexican/Chicano" categories.

Often they describe "white" as "having origin in the original peoples of Europe, N Africa and the Mideast".

These checklists are there for affirmative action purposes originally. To know what the % of people hired should be, they have to know what is the population of the area like, ethnically. The paranoia among some that this is a plot to "make Latinos white" is ridiculous. Nobody has EVER been able to accurately define what constitutes "white"... and it is in fact a bogus category scientifically.

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#14 Jul 31, 2009
http://www.afromexico.com/

http://www.mexconnect.com/articles/1936-bobby...

they do exsist. unfortunately latin america is just as racist if not more than the U.S. They are extremely colorstruck in brasil, which has more african decendants then AA. more slaves were brought down there then up here. Mexicans completely deny they exsist in their country, same thing most deny their native american culture, in favor of the spanish who conquered them. Bottom line is the European have fucked up them minds of the majority of the world, and how people view themselves in comparison to whites. which is why i refuse to allow my daughters to have straight hair.
Pere du Champ

Morgantown, WV

#15 Jul 31, 2009
You should not speak about peoples you do not understand. The Mexican majority is very well aware of its Native ancestry. They do not identify with Spanish but rather Native culture.

Mexico is far less racist than the USA. Blacks there were assimilated into the mainstream population; that is why they don't exist as a separate group there. If you are actually around a lot of Mexicans, you will know this, as there are some people with obvious African ancestry visible. Mostly they look like Natives, which is what they are.

Imperialist society and culture has screwed up minds worldwide. That is true. We need to become conscious of real culture, and of what capitalist imperialists have done to the world and its people.
Caribbean

Groveland, FL

#16 Jul 31, 2009
I'm no sure if my father's side has any black within their blood but just like my mom side there is Indian.

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Since: Dec 07

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#17 Jul 31, 2009
Hispanic/Latino is not a race...its a culture.
Most Latinos have African blood in them or Native American blood. Only a small percentage of Latinos are of pure blood. Latinos are a mixed race of people.
I lived in Florida and you always have Spanish people aproach the lighter skinned blacks speaking spanish cause to them anyone who looks mixed looks like a Latino.
Brazil and Cuba and Hounduras and Venezuela has a lot of people of African descent. But Argentina doesn't have many. I think Argentina killed all theirs.
Mixed Perfection

United States

#18 Jul 31, 2009
ladiezman16 wrote:
I ask this Bcuz i see hispanics can rang from different colors and have the same hairstlyes as African-americans and hispanic and black woman share the same Body structure and can have similar features?
Some do, some don't. Hispanic isn't a race or color. There are white hispanics, black hispanics, mixed hispanics, indigenous american hispanics, chinese hispanics, etc. Go to South America and you'll see a wide range there, more so than up here in the U.S.

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Since: Oct 08

NYC

#19 Jul 31, 2009
yeah, alot of them do, you can see it in alot of them, from the hair to the skin tones, here in nyc, there are a great many latinos who would be considered "biracial" by american terms
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United States

#20 Jul 31, 2009
Pere du Champ wrote:
You should not speak about peoples you do not understand. The Mexican majority is very well aware of its Native ancestry. They do not identify with Spanish but rather Native culture.
Mexico is far less racist than the USA. Blacks there were assimilated into the mainstream population; that is why they don't exist as a separate group there. If you are actually around a lot of Mexicans, you will know this, as there are some people with obvious African ancestry visible. Mostly they look like Natives, which is what they are.
Imperialist society and culture has screwed up minds worldwide. That is true. We need to become conscious of real culture, and of what capitalist imperialists have done to the world and its people.
Even though there are some ignorant racist bigots up here in the U.S. still, many more are not racist.

Does Mexico have many movies with blacks in them like the U.S.?

Does Mexico have a half black president?

Does Mexico have a black National Security Adviser, like George W. Bush had when he was in office? And black Secretary of State? Black Supreme Court Justice? Black Governors and Mayors? Black TV shows, like Oprah Winfrey? Black History month?

You're nitpicking some things racists do up here, but most part we're not racist. You need to live up here and see for yourself. Don't use exceptions to judge the RULE!

Turn on the TV in America and you'll see it's pretty mixed, even though whites are a majority of here.

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