Mass Shootings…..The New Norm in Amer...
doberman

Louisville, KY

#580 Sep 23, 2013
GrouchoMarxist wrote:
<quoted text>I hate to break this to you, but...
"savant",
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http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TVL86643C1LU4...
...is no different than Dopey.
lol ok i see your point

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#582 Sep 23, 2013
Savant wrote:
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Just one month ago people were celebrating the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington. And nowadays, even the most militaristic rightwingers anc "Christian soldiers" pay lip service tribute to Martin Luther King, Jr., while promoting the militarism he abhorred and fighting the cause of social justice to which he committed his life.
I recall a conversation I on Topix not too long ago where I asked someone who had no problem with "Piss Christ" (literally a photograph of a crucifix submerged in urine) being displayed in a public art gallery if they would also be OK with "Poop MLK" (a photograph of MLK's likeness dipped in feces). She had no problem with the former but was absolutely outraged by the latter.

In the Roman Empire, people were free to practice any religion they wanted as long as they payed tribute to the gods of the Roman civic religion (something that got them in trouble with the Jews). I argue that MLK has become the the Christ figure in the American empire's civic religion. And I have no doubt that I could never get my "Poop MLK" artwork displayed in any public gallery unlike Andres Serrano's "Piss Christ," even though such a thing would undoubtedly have just as much -- or perhaps even more -- artistic value than his.
doberman

Louisville, KY

#583 Sep 23, 2013
Walter Henrickson wrote:
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I recall a conversation I on Topix not too long ago where I asked someone who had no problem with "Piss Christ" (literally a photograph of a crucifix submerged in urine) being displayed in a public art gallery if they would also be OK with "Poop MLK" (a photograph of MLK's likeness dipped in feces). She had no problem with the former but was absolutely outraged by the latter.
In the Roman Empire, people were free to practice any religion they wanted as long as they payed tribute to the gods of the Roman civic religion (something that got them in trouble with the Jews). I argue that MLK has become the the Christ figure in the American empire's civic religion. And I have no doubt that I could never get my "Poop MLK" artwork displayed in any public gallery unlike Andres Serrano's "Piss Christ," even though such a thing would undoubtedly have just as much -- or perhaps even more -- artistic value than his.
yeah im not surprised. in a culture where racism is viewed at the same level as murder and child molestation.

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#584 Sep 23, 2013
doberman wrote:
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yeah im not surprised. in a culture where racism is viewed at the same level as murder and child molestation.
Sometimes even worse. I remember hearing that someone, who was not Christian, heard a Christian say something like that "racism" is the greatest sin one could commit. Really? Racism the greatest sin? Are all the "racists" really at the very center of Dante's Inferno?

Christianity has really become decadent. It's been in decline for a long time. There are, of course, plenty of people for whom that does not apply. But I've read that most young people today who call themselves Christians actually have beliefs that more approximate something that has been termed "moralistic therapeutic deism." You can look that up if you want.
doberman

Louisville, KY

#585 Sep 24, 2013
evidently this thread is finished. guess the anti-gun freaks got de-winded.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

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Baltimore, Md.

#586 Sep 24, 2013
doberman wrote:
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if by "real forum" you mean people who agree with you on all points, then i guess youre right. ive seen intelligent posts from different angles on this thread. that is what id call a real forum.
and doby breathing his condescending little sigh, and his feigned sadness about people not coming to their senses is a laugh riot.
you guys would all sit together in a room and pat each other on the back, agree with each other, then congratulate yourselves on a spectacular debate
You probably don't know what a forum is. But to put it as simply as possible for simple minds, it is q public space devoted to discussion and debate on issues of great concern. Discussion, naturally, means rational discourse. It is not a place in which trolls, clowns and buffoons are welcome. And in a REAL forum anyone who disrupts a discussion or debate is simply expelled. Case closed.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

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Baltimore, Md.

#587 Sep 24, 2013
Kennyinbmore wrote:
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Agreed. What kind of forum would it be if everyone agreed with each other?
What kind of forum can you have when rational discussion and debate cannot be sustained because anyone can disrupt it if they wish, spout off on things not even distantly related to the topic of conversation, and substitute name-calling and vituperation for discussion and debate?

Ish Tov
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#588 Sep 24, 2013
Savant wrote:
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What kind of forum can you have when rational discussion and debate cannot be sustained because anyone can disrupt it if they wish, spout off on things not even distantly related to the topic of conversation, and substitute name-calling and vituperation for discussion and debate?
Sounds like Fox News.
doberman

Louisville, KY

#589 Sep 24, 2013
Savant wrote:
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You probably don't know what a forum is. But to put it as simply as possible for simple minds, it is q public space devoted to discussion and debate on issues of great concern. Discussion, naturally, means rational discourse. It is not a place in which trolls, clowns and buffoons are welcome. And in a REAL forum anyone who disrupts a discussion or debate is simply expelled. Case closed.
ive debated and brought forward what i feel are some good points. i am not a clown, or a troll, and as far as name calling (which i agree with you is childish) ive refrained from, with the exception of referring to anti gun people as freaks. you must admit some anti gun folks are just as rabid as pro gunners. and correct me if im wrong, but referring to people as clowns and trolls makes you a hypocrite.
doberman

Louisville, KY

#590 Sep 24, 2013
Savant wrote:
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You probably don't know what a forum is. But to put it as simply as possible for simple minds, it is q public space devoted to discussion and debate on issues of great concern. Discussion, naturally, means rational discourse. It is not a place in which trolls, clowns and buffoons are welcome. And in a REAL forum anyone who disrupts a discussion or debate is simply expelled. Case closed.
not to mention calling me simple minded, which i am not. someone disagreeing with you obviously pi$$es you off. which brings us back to you calling out people for being disruptive. you have given yourself a pass to say the things you condemn others for. case closed.

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#593 Sep 24, 2013
TheOriginalDoby wrote:
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Address the mass shootings and the frequency. That’s the topic. Too complicated?
Maybe you should be addressing the crime ridden lifestyle blacks live and kill each other in the streets every single day. Those ARE YOUR people.

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Bmore

#594 Sep 25, 2013
Savant wrote:
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and substitute name-calling and vituperation for discussion and debate?
You mean like this?
TheOriginalDoby wrote:
(smh @ the elementary school mentalities of topix posters)

“Romney 2016”

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Philadelphia, Pa.

#596 Sep 25, 2013
Raptors Revenge wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe you should be addressing the crime ridden lifestyle blacks live and kill each other in the streets every single day. Those ARE YOUR people.
Blacks like Doby don't want to talk about Chicago
or Detroit, they are Embarrissed.
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#598 Sep 28, 2013
AlwaysOnPoint wrote:
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But at the same time, less legal gun ownership mean more illegal guns going around regardless of location.
I agree. It's like prohibition. They'll just sell them illegally like they already do. Look at the contras and what its done to the urban areas. Teens can buy a gun cheaper than a pair of sneakers! How did that come about? In the 40s and 50s gangs used to fight with bicycle chains, knives and sticks because getting your hands on a gun was difficult. What changed? Drugs and guns flooding our urban areas courtesy of the US Govt is what changed. Now, like the wild, wild, west, everyone will be locked and loaded. Solutions are needed to curb the violence but no one wants to be reasonable and solve the problem. Especially when there's so much money involved and face it, they don't care about black killing other blacks or other minorities (I believe it was deliberate anyway!) but the nuts who can buy guns and go on Mass killing sprees is definitely a concern for them or should be and even that doesn't faze the gun nuts. We should be able to legally protect ourselves but no one needs an automatic assault weapon unless you're serving in the armed forces.
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#599 Sep 28, 2013
Jimmy_2016 wrote:
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Blacks like Doby don't want to talk about Chicago
or Detroit, they are Embarrissed.
Whites don't want to talk about mass murderers like the Sandy Hook killer or the clown who massacred all those people at the Black Knight Movie! You can't go to restaurants, the mall, movies, church, participate in marathons, or go to church, but you forgot about that, didn't you hypocrite and illiterate idiot. You've got tunnel vision and the tunnel has sucked up what little brain matter you ever had. A spoonful at that!
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#600 Sep 28, 2013
Kennyinbmore wrote:
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You mean like this?
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Constantly bringing up a thread to trash the dead makes any response you have to any subject, null and void. You are a reprobate with no integrity, character, morals, values, empathy, spirit, soul, or worth as a human being. You're the lowest of the low. Always has been and always will be. You lied about your sexual orientation, your role as a father and expressed your hatred and jealousy of bw because you're in competition with them for bm (although your preference is white men) right? You're perverse in the extreme and a disgrace not only to the black race but the human race.

Take a bow, Cletus, you're very good at bowing and scraping for the white man and being on your knees to service them is a position you definitely enjoy.

“Romney 2016”

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Since: Aug 13

Philadelphia, Pa.

#602 Sep 28, 2013
bappie wrote:
<quoted text>Whites don't want to talk about mass murderers like the Sandy Hook killer or the clown who massacred all those people at the Black Knight Movie! You can't go to restaurants, the mall, movies, church, participate in marathons, or go to church, but you forgot about that, didn't you hypocrite and illiterate idiot. You've got tunnel vision and the tunnel has sucked up what little brain matter you ever had. A spoonful at that!
Get lost you sorry A$$ clown.

SMH

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#604 Sep 28, 2013
America is getting too dangerous for me. Why so much violence? Can we all live in peace?

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#606 Sep 29, 2013
GrouchoMarxist wrote:
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Because in this obamaconomy that oppresses black worse than any white administration ever did, they're getting desperate.
<quoted text>Everyone but blacks seem to have no problem with it...
LYING RACIST, ILLITERATE POS! The only violent mass murderers (key being "mass") in case you missed the point of this thread is raw meat eating, knuckle dragging, Neanderthals such as yourself!

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#608 Sep 29, 2013
GrouchoMarxist wrote:
LOL....bappey sees me post and comes running like a bytch in heat....lol!
I oHwn you, you fat pig.
Nope, you ran in here like a fiend looking for crack when you saw my name, lol. You've got no one to play with. Must be lonely, beeatch boy!

Well, I am off to live a life you obviously don't have. Enjoy your lonely trolling, sorry excuse for a human being. I wouldn't give you the satisfaction of having someone to interact with today. POS!

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