Mass Shootings…..The New Norm in American Life?

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ashliiiing wrote:
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You don't think that an active shooter can reload and especially when they are in a no gun zone and can't be stopped until the good guys arrive with guns to stop the threat?
Again, do you really think that a violent criminal or nut job is going to abide by the rules that law abiding gun owners do?
No amount of laws or regulations will prevent a violent offender from committing their crimes against a defenseless person. IE... gun free zones.
I agree. He mentioned limiting magazine capacity. The nut jobs that do mass shootings, what he is complaining about, prepared well in advance. The Newtown and Colorado incidents come to mind. A regulation like that would have done nothing. Limiting magazine capacity is a useless regulation and could even be harmful for law abiding citizens.

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TheOriginalDoby wrote:
Notice how the losers on this thread have spent the entire time telling us all what WON’T work, yet they have contributed not one single suggestion or idea as to what WILL WORK. This my friends is textbook trolling.
Really, that's textbook trolling? I thought trolling was something completely different. Telling the truth isn't trolling. Trolling usually involves telling elaborate lies.
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Walter Henrickson wrote:
Really, that's textbook trolling? I thought trolling was something completely different. Telling the truth isn't trolling. Trolling usually involves telling elaborate lies.
Dude shut the fk up and stick to the topic.

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ashliiiing wrote:
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Thanks, Walter. I honestly don't know how much clearer people can make it.
Although this was a response to the Colorado shooting, I believe it can be said regarding any mass shooting...
http://youtu.be/wLAIk5Ka_64
I didn't watch the whole thing but I agree. CCW laws are a very good and important thing.
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Really, that's textbook trolling? I thought trolling was something completely different. Telling the truth isn't trolling. Trolling usually involves telling elaborate lies.
Where are your suggestions for decreasing the number of gun deaths? We’re waiting!

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ashliiiing wrote:
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Sure, Allan Bauer. I'll be sure to bear that in mind.
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/09/today-in...
I saw that. There was another Dem who wished death on a conservative within the past few days too.

Oh yeah, it's a journalism professor at U of Kansas. Here is his tweet:

The blood is on the hands of the #NRA. Next time, let it be YOUR sons and daughters. Shame on you. May God damn you.

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<quoted text>No you are asking that question out of racism. The last time all black people were disarmed there were mass killings. It really wouldn't matter if there would be fewer homicides...it's not happening. Discuss something that is an actual reality.
And you don't have the right to ask me that because I never suggested that an entire group of people be disarmed.
I asked the question becuase somebody else suggested it. The suggestion was consistent with the arguments some people were giving: that if you disarm folks crime would decrease. That is all. I have no idea what you are talking about when you say "the last time all black people were disarmed."

When you say, "It really wouldn't matter if there would be fewer homicides" I agree. Like I said, I am not in favor of disarming black people or any other people. The 2nd Ammendment applies to all.

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I too like my guns, BUT if it meant that less children would die because of them, I would GLADLY discuss alternatives.
What you really want is to end violence and murder. That would be nice but it ain't going to happen. You people (liberals/leftists) seem not to understand human nature.

"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither." -- Benjamin Franklin

But even then, when you want to give up liberty in pursuit of security, it's at best doubtful whether or not you achieve any more security at all. Statistics on gun crimes in places after gun control was implemented demonstrate this.

You advocate a lose-lose situation.

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I agree. The disparity between the haves and have-nots of this country has never been greater. Ultra-Capitalism seems to be destroying the very fabric of the country. What Conservatives call “personal responsibility” is truly nothing more than a mask for saying "Every man for himself and fk you if you die” versus the true sense of community this nation once knew…..(amongst whites anyway)
However, we are also dealing with a breakdown of morals as well. Fueled I’m sure by television and many other factors. The idolization of idiot actors and athletes while working class teachers and other public servants starve while educating and serving their communities. The marketing of food that is literally killing us yet at the same time fueling a corrupt healthcare system. Filling hospitals with high paying “customers” because they eat the crap being sold to them.
Banks lend “funny money” to buy (and take) homes because we no longer build them ourselves. Wall Street trades fake paper, rating agencies on the take rate the junk, then when the predatory instrument ultimately sinks the borrower, the nation blames the lowest man on the totem pole (the borrower) and the government hands over trillions of the same borrowers hard earned tax money!
I see how deep the rabbit hole is Stag, and while I agree there are forces much larger at work, I still question the “day to day” answers to the number of children being murdered with guns. See my dilemma?
Dude, I feel you. I really do, on almost everything you said. Just saying, you're not alone, even among us conservatives.
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Walter Henrickson wrote:
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Like a typical troll, you spend a lot of time talking about ME and MY IDEAS, yet we still have heard not one single suggestion from as to how we can reduce the number of gun deaths in this country. This is not a coincidence!
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TheOriginalDoby wrote:
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I agree. The disparity between the haves and have-nots of this country has never been greater. Ultra-Capitalism seems to be destroying the very fabric of the country. What Conservatives call “personal responsibility” is truly nothing more than a mask for saying "Every man for himself and fk you if you die” versus the true sense of community this nation once knew…..(amongst whites anyway)
However, we are also dealing with a breakdown of morals as well. Fueled I’m sure by television and many other factors. The idolization of idiot actors and athletes while working class teachers and other public servants starve while educating and serving their communities. The marketing of food that is literally killing us yet at the same time fueling a corrupt healthcare system. Filling hospitals with high paying “customers” because they eat the crap being sold to them.
Banks lend “funny money” to buy (and take) homes because we no longer build them ourselves. Wall Street trades fake paper, rating agencies on the take rate the junk, then when the predatory instrument ultimately sinks the borrower, the nation blames the lowest man on the totem pole (the borrower) and the government hands over trillions of the same borrowers hard earned tax money!
I see how deep the rabbit hole is Stag, and while I agree there are forces much larger at work, I still question the “day to day” answers to the number of children being murdered with guns. See my dilemma?
Good post i agree
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Off the sack bytch
Like a typical troll, you spend a lot of time talking about ME and MY IDEAS, yet we still have heard not one single suggestion from as to how we can reduce the number of gun deaths in this country. This is not a coincidence!

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You don't give up your car just because other people drive theirs drunk. Why should I give up my guns just because other people commit crimes with theirs?
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TheOriginalDoby wrote:
The arguments against meaningful gun legislation are centered around a single premise: ME, ME, ME!!!
What about MY rights?
Don’t take MY guns!
MY right to bear arms!
Meanwhile, the only people who actually benefit are the gun manufacturers. They have brainwashed you into thinking you’re safer when you’re not!
God forbid this country full of self-centered egotistical nuts take one single second and consider OTHER PEOPLE! But I’ll tell you what, the day one of your family members is murdered, you will change your tune.
I too like my guns, BUT if it meant that less children would die because of them, I would GLADLY discuss alternatives.
That’s the difference between people who SAY they love this country and its citizens and those who actually do!
i respectfully disagree sir.
i personally believe that as things now stand in this country that my family is safer due to the fact that i own a firearm. if i could snap my fingers and all the guns in existence would magically dissapear, i would do it without a seconds hesitation because that would level the playing field for everyone. but the cold hard reality is that guns do exist and they are manufactured everyday. even if they were not, a criminally minded person would make a zip gun in order to have power and be able to rob, rape , or murder.
so in the scenario we have now in this world, and our country in particular it would be ludicrous to disarm the law abiding citizenry. there are many examples of home invasions being thwarted because the homeowners had a firearm. i for one do not wish to find myself in the situation of protecting my family from an armed intruder, with only a baseball bat. and i dont think this sentiment make me, or like-minded individuals selfish.
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God Body720 wrote:
More laws are being passed to take away your rights.Dont let them take your straps.Its all propoganda.
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu
One cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." ~ Barack Hussein Obama, 2008 campain.
Obama's private army plus FEMA camps equals American detention camps
touche'
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GrouchoMarxist wrote:
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While you're calling Dopey "sir", you may want to check out his OTHER opinion on this issue:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/afampTVE9SMENE5U11...
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http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TVE9SMENE5U11...
very interesting indeed

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Walter Henrickson wrote:
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I asked the question becuase somebody else suggested it. The suggestion was consistent with the arguments some people were giving: that if you disarm folks crime would decrease. That is all. I have no idea what you are talking about when you say "the last time all black people were disarmed."
When you say, "It really wouldn't matter if there would be fewer homicides" I agree. Like I said, I am not in favor of disarming black people or any other people. The 2nd Ammendment applies to all.
You're twisting my statement. It does matter if there are fewer homicides if we were making a law for the bettering of the country without a racist agenda.
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GrouchoMarxist wrote:
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Wow!
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Now THAT'S a "TOUCHÉ"!
It sure is.
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Sep 22, 2013
 
Jimmy_2016 wrote:
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Wow, he is a real dirtbag liberal.
He is very arrogant to, don't you think ?
Yep. That man's a nasty piece of work. We can always count on liberals to keep it classy.

He's not so arrogant now and thanks to Michelle Malkin for exposing him for what he is.
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Jimmy_2016 wrote:
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Yeah he golfs too much, he is like a fake president
or a Generic one at best.
*smiles*
And for those who like to perpetually like to bring up Bush?

"President George W. Bush, who routinely allowed journalists to accompany him on golf outings early in his presidency, told Politico in May 2008 that he decided to give up the game in August 2003 after a bomb attack on the United Nations headquarters in Baghdad that killed a top U.N. official.

“I don’t want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander-in-chief playing golf,” Bush said.“I feel I owe it to the families to be in solidarity as best as I can with them.”

“And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong message,” Bush said."

- See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/flashback-geo...

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