How come italians are so racist againts blacks?

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Luigi

Vero Beach, FL

#1036 Jan 24, 2010
What happened to this thread?
Keri

UK

#1037 Jan 25, 2010
I have no idea. I was just checking to see if anyone responded to my comment and it came up with this.
Alysia Bellocchio

Austin, TX

#1039 Jan 25, 2010
And im going to reiterate im marrying the most wonderful man in the world, who happens to be a very dark-skinned black, and i loveeee all his black friends, non-black friends, family (who as you may have guessed happen to be black), his church (which is about 90 percent black - but i and some of my cousins and friends from the italian catholic school i went to go, as well as some puerto ricans and 2 asians, regularly)......i voted for Obama....every single person in Italy i'ved talked to LOVES Obama, including Italians who are considered "conservative in Italy" (see in Italy, there is actually such a thing as a Left wing.....the conservatives there are like liberal democrats in the US)....I don't know a single Italian-American who voted for McCain....people were pretty pissed at the bigotry of multiple forms McCain and Palin presented - Italians have been discrimminated too - and i know its been so much work for blacks around the world and it infuriates me its so horrible and just wrong...but i hope i made my point.*My fiancee approves this message* ONE LOVE. Oh and Bob Marley is my favorite musician.:) OH EVERYBODY HELP HAITI!!!!! AND DO NOT I MEAN NEVER WATCH FOX NEWS THEY ARE SO RACIST AND SO IS THE 700 CLUB YOU KNOW, THAT EVIL GUY PAT ROBERTSON, AND RUSH LIMBAUGH - THE COMMENTS THEY HAVE MADE ARE JUST HORRIBLE I CANT BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE SAYING BLACKS RUINED THE COMMUNITY (OF COURSE IT WAS TRULY THE VERY WHITE BUSH), THE OBAMAS ONLY CARE ABOUT HAITI BECAUSE HAITIANS ARE BLACK... ITS A HUGE HORRIBLE CRISIS AND EARTHQUAKES CAN HAPPEN TO WHITES THEY DONT DISCRIMMINATE! Stop Bigots! one love.
Alysia Bellocchio

Austin, TX

#1041 Jan 25, 2010
Yo Keri, why are so many white people in the U.K. racist against blacks? I have seen it there. I feel fucking offended that you made a racist comment about Italians saying we are racist. I don't think white British/Northern Irish folks are most of them racist. Im just stating what you stated about Italians about white British/Northern Irish people. Now you understand your comment was indeed racist as it was stereotyping. Fix your own country and the racists there!!!! Dont blame Italians thats what everyone does they blame either blacks or Italians or Jews or Muslims or Immigrants. SO horrible. Keri I pray you have a change of heart. one love to you.
Alysia Bellocchio

Austin, TX

#1042 Jan 25, 2010
Seriously Keri think about what you said. I dont know you but I love you Im trying to be like Dr. Martin Luther King I try to love all people, I love you. Just think about what you're doing and saying. You're racist.
Alysia Bellocchio

Austin, TX

#1043 Jan 25, 2010
WOW you didn't even say "How come SOME or MANY italians are so racist against blacks you said "How come ITALIANS are so racist against blacks (as though every single Italian is racist! and against blacks! OFFENSIVE! AND RACIST OF YOU, AND WRONG, INACCURATE!)?" And you made it sound like ITALIANS are just SO SO SO extra racist and against blacks. Dude. We never enslaved blacks since our country of Italy was founded in the 1800's. Your country has enslaved A LOT OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING BLACKS, FOR HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF YEARS UNTIL PRETTY DARN RECENTLY, relatively speaking. THERE IS NO PLACE FOR RACISM AGAINST ANYBODY ON THIS BLOG! Listen to Dr. Martin Luther King. He said things like that "racism or bigotry or prejudice toward any people...is still racism, bigotry, prejudice and therefore must not be tolerated, injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." He talked a lot about how it was important for blacks not to be racist, for no body to be xenophobic - for no one to be sexist for no one to be prejudice against any religion any people any country...he said "you definitely dont have to LIKE your enemy. but you DO have to love them and use nonviolence in words and action." Dr. MLK jr. would be upset with you. FIND SOLUTIONS BE AN ANTI-RACISM ACTIVIST IN YOUR COMMUNITY! Blaming other races for being racist? That perpetuates races, you're perpetuating it. EVERYONE NOT RACIST AGAINST ANYBODY AND WHO HAS LOGIC MUST AGREE. See?
Luigi

Vero Beach, FL

#1044 Jan 26, 2010
Not all, but the GREAT majority of us are racist, especially racist against blacks, it is what it is, take it for what it's worth

Level 8

Since: Oct 09

Paris France

#1045 Jan 26, 2010
Alysia Bellocchio wrote:
WOW you didn't even say "How come SOME or MANY italians are so racist against blacks you said "How come ITALIANS are so racist against blacks (as though every single Italian is racist! and against blacks! OFFENSIVE! AND RACIST OF YOU, AND WRONG, INACCURATE!)?" And you made it sound like ITALIANS are just SO SO SO extra racist and against blacks.
hello,

I read your long posts with plenty of capital letters.

However you never mention "Rosarno", the Italian city - a city not a little village - where ITALIANS (not Martians) have been doing some mob beating against AFRICANS (Black People).
How many Italian mafiosi have been arrested by the police for doing that ? As far as I know : zero. Hundreds of African workers have been rounded up by the police and put in some sort of detention.
Why did the president of the Italian Republic finally after days and days come to see the city of shame ?
The pope himself talked about Rosarno.

I would like to hear what you have to say about Rosarno in Italy (not NYC or Austin).

By the way, many Black people in this thread have recognized that not "all" Italians are anti-Black, that many were very friendly with AAs before 1990.

attai a whiteboi
Keri

UK

#1046 Jan 26, 2010
Alysia Bellocchio wrote:
Yo Keri, why are so many white people in the U.K. racist against blacks? I have seen it there. I feel fucking offended that you made a racist comment about Italians saying we are racist. I don't think white British/Northern Irish folks are most of them racist. Im just stating what you stated about Italians about white British/Northern Irish people. Now you understand your comment was indeed racist as it was stereotyping. Fix your own country and the racists there!!!! Dont blame Italians thats what everyone does they blame either blacks or Italians or Jews or Muslims or Immigrants. SO horrible. Keri I pray you have a change of heart. one love to you.
I honestly didn't mean to offend you Alysia. What I meant was that there's racism everywhere, not just in Italy, of course. I was born in the RO Ireland but moved to N Ireland when I was 12. My mum died in a protest accident so we moved from Ireland to England.
Moving is bad enough when your young but when you get racist stuff shouted at you its even worse. I became an agrophobic aged 15 I was that scared.
When I came to Italy to study it was soo much better than urban London. I met some many nice Italian people and I stayed with an Italian women wwho treated me like a daughter.
When I visited again with my boyfriend they were all nice to him, where as in England everyone calls him Burqa boy (Ironically he isn't Muslim). We even considering moving to Italy because the people are so much nicer.
We just got engaged (Well, it was at the weekend) so we going to wait for the wedding until we consider moving to Italy or not.
But I honestly didn't mean to offend you and I'm really sorry if I did.
Caz

UK

#1047 Jan 26, 2010
attai1 wrote:
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hello,
I read your long posts with plenty of capital letters.
However you never mention "Rosarno", the Italian city - a city not a little village - where ITALIANS (not Martians) have been doing some mob beating against AFRICANS (Black People).
How many Italian mafiosi have been arrested by the police for doing that ? As far as I know : zero. Hundreds of African workers have been rounded up by the police and put in some sort of detention.
Why did the president of the Italian Republic finally after days and days come to see the city of shame ?
The pope himself talked about Rosarno.
I would like to hear what you have to say about Rosarno in Italy (not NYC or Austin).
By the way, many Black people in this thread have recognized that not "all" Italians are anti-Black, that many were very friendly with AAs before 1990.
attai a whiteboi
That's it! I give in!
Be like this I don't care anymore!
If you are an Italian who doesn't like what it's like in Italy then fucking move.
My grandparents did it when life in Italy got hard.
YOU ARE AN ADULT! YOU ARE ALLOWED TO MOVE! Cos no particularly needs to hear you moaning about the nationality myself, Adelaide, Claire, my cousin or Alysia are proud to be. You should be proud of where you came from.
In Britain it rains all the time - don't mean I start slagging it off!
Russia used to be communist - don't mean I start thinking they're going to kill me.
Nottingham has the biggest crime rates in England - I'm still proud to be called a Notts girl
Be proud of where you come from and if anyone is racist do what I do - The Umbrella or two fingers
Caz

UK

#1048 Jan 26, 2010
It you want racism and discrimination - follow this link. When I read this I felt sick with anger and rage even though it doesn't have anything to do with my nationality or faith.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/84801...

Level 8

Since: Oct 09

Paris France

#1049 Jan 26, 2010
Caz wrote:
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That's it! I give in!
Be like this I don't care anymore!
If you are an Italian who doesn't like what it's like in Italy then fucking move.
My grandparents did it when life in Italy got hard.
YOU ARE AN ADULT! YOU ARE ALLOWED TO MOVE! Cos no particularly needs to hear you moaning about the nationality myself, Adelaide, Claire, my cousin or Alysia are proud to be. You should be proud of where you came from.
In Britain it rains all the time - don't mean I start slagging it off!
Russia used to be communist - don't mean I start thinking they're going to kill me.
Nottingham has the biggest crime rates in England - I'm still proud to be called a Notts girl
Be proud of where you come from and if anyone is racist do what I do - The Umbrella or two fingers
Always the same silly burst ... off topic.

Since when Rosarno is a burb of "Notts" ?
Since when "Notts" is in ... Italy.

Obviously you have some trouble in reading plain English and above all have no idea of European geography.

Be proudly nuts at "Notts" as long as you want, but try to locate Italy on a map. Grazie mille.

attai a whiteboi

Level 8

Since: Oct 09

Paris France

#1050 Jan 26, 2010
Caz wrote:
It you want racism and discrimination - follow this link. When I read this I felt sick with anger and rage even though it doesn't have anything to do with my nationality or faith.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/84801...
whatever this future ban can be - i won't be total by the way and i doubt that it will be a big fuss when the next elections are gone -, it has noting to do with "racism and discrimination" : the ban would apply to anybody wearing that whether (who knows ?) a male or female, young or old, green-yelllow-pink-black-red all the rainbow.

As feeling "sick", yes you can feel "sick" but for many other much more valid reasons.
For example reading again your posts could be one.
ciao.

attai a whiteboi
unknown

Decatur, IN

#1051 Jan 26, 2010
unknown wrote:
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Black Gangstas worship the Italian Mafia. Alot of Blacks don't give a fuck about them-not the ignorant ones.
I meant to say-not the intelligent or average ones.
Caz

UK

#1052 Jan 27, 2010
attai1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Always the same silly burst ... off topic.
Since when Rosarno is a burb of "Notts" ?
Since when "Notts" is in ... Italy.
Obviously you have some trouble in reading plain English and above all have no idea of European geography.
Be proudly nuts at "Notts" as long as you want, but try to locate Italy on a map. Grazie mille.
attai a whiteboi
Notts is what we calling Nottingham/Nottinghamshire. Sorry (Not being sarcastic) I shouldn't have used slang.
I can locate Italy on a map. It's in Southern Europe, West of Croatia, Albania, Greece (etc) and it's north of Africa. I should know, my ex-boyfriend was Italian-Libyan (He actually had to go back to Libya becos of the English authorities (He was an illegal).
What I meant was that you should be proud of where you come from. I'm not saying join in with them if they jeer, but instead of pointing it out to us, point out to them that being closed-minded will eventually effect them in the future.
In Nottingham we have a large area for Italians, Poles, Germans and mixed. I'm part of the mixed because I'm Anglo-Italian, but we all freely converse with each other and get on well.
I will put my hands up and say that I don't know where Rosarno is (What 13 year-old from Notts does?) but instead of looking at just one place, look at the bigger picture. Racism in England is the worst it's ever been. I doubt it's much better in Germany, France, Spain etc. It's life. It's what I and everyone in the world has to deal with everyday.
But please, don't insult me. I'll stop if you stop, agred? I want a truce. Please.

Level 8

Since: Oct 09

Paris France

#1053 Jan 27, 2010
Caz wrote:
<quoted text>
Notts is what we calling Nottingham/Nottinghamshire. Sorry (Not being sarcastic) I shouldn't have used slang.

In Nottingham we have a large area for Italians, Poles, Germans and mixed. I'm part of the mixed because I'm Anglo-Italian, but we all freely converse with each other and get on well.
I will put my hands up and say that I don't know where Rosarno is (What 13 year-old from Notts does?) but instead of looking at just one place, look at the bigger picture. Racism in England is the worst it's ever been. I doubt it's much better in Germany, France, Spain etc. It's life. It's what I and everyone in the world has to deal with everyday.
But please, don't insult me. I'll stop if you stop, agred? I want a truce. Please.
There are far more Italians/Italian-French in France than in the whole UK, believe me or not. Like I said, it was not the point in this thread.
I understood what you meant by "Notts", and thanks for teaching me a new word.

You're right about the "bigger picture" : Italy is becoming widely anti-African and that's what the unbelievable events of Rosarno are telling us.
I also know it is something that is spreading through the EU like a cancer : Barroso and many EU governments, like mine, are also trying to block African immigrants.
Rosarno is especially shocking because precisely, in the past decades, Italian people were rather friendly with Black People in general.

In this case, once again, the ugly face of Mafia (N'dranghetta) is peeking through : if you add the Bossi propaganda, you get a nasty cocktail.
The point is now for us in the EU to fight this political trend and Mr Cameron in the UK looks like a British Bossi to me ...

attai a whiteboi

NBP
Level 1

Since: Mar 09

Milan, Italy

#1058 Jan 29, 2010
Luigi wrote:
Blacks please, stay the Hell away from Italy. Thank you
He didn' t say a stupid thing, he gave a wise advice because there is no future for blacks in Italy, Italians don' t give job to black people and in some zone of the south of Italy they can be attacked or even fired.
Caz

Herne Bay, UK

#1059 Jan 29, 2010
Wow. So your now sidig with a racist? Even I'm clever enough to realise that what he said wasn't 'friendly advice'

NBP
Level 1

Since: Mar 09

Milan, Italy

#1060 Jan 29, 2010
Caz wrote:
Wow. So your now sidig with a racist? Even I'm clever enough to realise that what he said wasn't 'friendly advice'
I'm not siding with him, I don' t know if he' s racist or not but unfortunately he said a right thing, Italy it' s not a good place for living if you're black, that' s sad but it' s true.
cocainecowboy

Jasper, AL

#1062 Jan 30, 2010
hey alysia bellochio all that moolie is doing is using you for sex and once he don't want you anymore he'll dump your butt. for once in your life be a real italian cause i don't think you are. what are you doin fooling around with that moolie, did you go black or something? get your head straight

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