Should African Americans buy Africa?

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#1899 Dec 22, 2012
dragonpat wrote:
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this is one of the biggest lies. jazz and blues are great and popular music that came directly from and was directly influenced by Blamericans. blues has roots in west africa.
we also have other forms like early hiphop that no one can take credit for but us, mainly.
what forms of music came from your specific tribe that anyone else in the world has had the chance to listen to and enjoy?
you always trying to malign blk americans in some way. everyone already know you have a serious problem with us. to bad.
No, I have problem with AA culture in its current manifestation. Western music has its roots in Europe.

“Obsidian Princess”

Level 8

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#1900 Dec 22, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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No, I have problem with AA culture in its current manifestation. Western music has its roots in Europe.
you need to have a problem with your own culture, or whatever and jazz/blues has its roots in new orleans treme area.

they are rooted in the Blamerican experience and has our Spirit all over it.

tell me, what music from your tribe in africa has influenced the world like our jazz and blues music that has its roots in AMERICA among our people?

no other fool would try to place jazz and blues origin or roots in europe.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#1901 Dec 22, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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I'm talking about Western Music.
And so am I.
UNCLE BEN

Finksburg, MD

#1902 Dec 22, 2012
Africa is more than one country???

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#1903 Dec 22, 2012
dragonpat wrote:
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you need to have a problem with your own culture, or whatever and jazz/blues has its roots in new orleans treme area.
they are rooted in the Blamerican experience and has our Spirit all over it.
tell me, what music from your tribe in africa has influenced the world like our jazz and blues music that has its roots in AMERICA among our people?
no other fool would try to place jazz and blues origin or roots in europe.
I already told you what my ethnicity is, you stupid mutt.

I didn't say that jazz had its roots in Europe. I said that Western music has its roots in Europe. Western music came way before jazz.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#1904 Dec 22, 2012
sassyntrashy wrote:
<quoted text>Yep he s Topx #1 hater!
You have white racists coming here telling you that Blacks are inherently retarded all day, and I'm the number one hater?

You people have lost it.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#1905 Dec 22, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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You have white racists coming here telling you that Blacks are inherently retarded all day, and I'm the number one hater?
You people have lost it.
Yes they are racist and you are a hater trying to pretend you are above AA when you are no where near our level.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#1906 Dec 22, 2012
sassyntrashy wrote:
<quoted text>Yes they are racist and you are a hater trying to pretend you are above AA when you are no where near our level.
I don't think I'm above what I am. I think I'm above what you are.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#1907 Dec 22, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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I don't think I'm above what I am. I think I'm above what you are.
Nope you are beneath me because I have pride in who I am while you deny your true identity.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#1908 Dec 22, 2012
sassyntrashy wrote:
<quoted text>Nope you are beneath me because I have pride in who I am while you deny your true identity.
When have I ever denied being AA? I said that like the first day I joined this forum.
Bigsmoke

Wakefield, UK

#1909 Dec 22, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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No, industrialization does not modernize a country. Industrialization is a method of production, not a cure for societal problems. Throwing machines at Africa isn't going to fix it anymore than throwing money at it is. The problem with Africa isn't "lack of modernization". That is merely a symptom of a deeper issue.
The problems stem from lack of proper governance and proficient political and economic policies and practices.
Industrialization defines the modern world.

Get with the program.
Bigsmoke

Wakefield, UK

#1910 Dec 22, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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No they didn't. Western Culture was "built" in Europe. It is white culture.
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Japan is an Asian country. Western culture originated in Europe by white people and is thus, a white culture.
Really yet 99.9% of western music isn't of European origin.
Bigsmoke

Wakefield, UK

#1911 Dec 22, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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Look at you not naming one thing that made them incompetent.
If you don't find selling human captives in return for muskets instead of making them yourself a sign of incompetence then I just have to question your logic.
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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No, I argue against your ignorance and stupidity being promoted as fact by you as a result of knowing little of what you speak in comparison with me.
Modernize their countries? All African elites have to do is start engaging in economic practices that are going to distribute wealth more evenly, invest in agriculture and small industry while cultivating a climate that will nurture the prosperity of such activities and they will generate capital, of which, can be used to build infrastructure and facilities and whatnot.
African heads don't need to and shouldn't adopt western culture just so they can modernize, they just need to stop screwing their own people over and build off of their own indigenous cultures.
It seems to me that I know more on the subject than yourself.

Industrialization = modernization. South Africa is the only industrialized African country to date but watch out Angola are going to be soon enough.
Bigsmoke

Wakefield, UK

#1912 Dec 22, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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Is that why you can't keep yourself from being disproven by me every time you make a post?
Been there done that and you know it.
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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White people started the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade when they started carrying Africans across the Atlantic.
No it was a mutual trade between the African and European elite. Both sides started it.
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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You can't explain to me how importing weapons is a sign of incompetence. All the mafias imported weapons, yet you clearly don't think of them as being incompetent for doing so.
East Africans imported weaponry, and doing so helped to fend off Europeans for as long as it did. In the case of Ethiopians, it fended them off for good, which is the exact opposite of incompetence.
There was no bringing of knives to gun battles unless it was in addition to the modern guns they brought, and in the case of Somalis, even cannons, and your stupid ass is going on about incompetence.
You are incompetent.
An army which imports its main munitions relies heavily in those who import the munitions thus if in war with them they'd be cut off from munitions thus completely vulnerable.

Incompetence.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#1913 Dec 22, 2012
Bigsmoke wrote:
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Industrialization defines the modern world.
Get with the program.
Industrialization does not and never did define the modern world.

Advanced intellectualism, science, technology, and socialization is what defines the modern world.

The same things that have always advanced the race.

Industrialization is just a smaller piece of this much bigger piece.
Bigsmoke

Wakefield, UK

#1914 Dec 22, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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99.9% of Western music has its roots in Europe, where incidentally, there happens to be a lot of white people.
Music is an important aspect of most cultures, but not the most important. Social ideology is the most important aspect of culture and is in fact the very root of culture itself.
No 99.9% of Western music has its roots in Central-West African polyrhythms in genres made famous by ''African Americans'' and I forgot to mention Jamaicans.

Look at you now desperately trying to downplay music in culture.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#1915 Dec 22, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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When have I ever denied being AA? I said that like the first day I joined this forum.
But you are not AA and you will never be.
Bigsmoke

Wakefield, UK

#1916 Dec 22, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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Industrialization does not and never did define the modern world.
Advanced intellectualism, science, technology, and socialization is what defines the modern world.
The same things that have always advanced the race.
Industrialization is just a smaller piece of this much bigger piece.
Says the guy typing from an industrialized country.

It clearly does.

Energy putting machines to work is not modern to you huh? Please go to a forest butt naked and try to survive by your own means. Lets see if you can come post on here again.

“Try harder :)”

Level 8

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#1917 Dec 22, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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Industrialization does not and never did define the modern world.
Advanced intellectualism, science, technology, and socialization is what defines the modern world.
The same things that have always advanced the race.
Industrialization is just a smaller piece of this much bigger piece.
With industrialization life becomes easier and things are made faster.

You can have Advanced intellectualism, science,socialization..But you'll get your äss whooped by other nations. Just ask the Chinese.

And you need industrialization to have those "advanced technology." Just ask the Union and British empire.

“Leading the Revolution”

Level 6

Since: Oct 09

United States

#1918 Dec 22, 2012
@Big smoke

Please define modernization, whats your criteria

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