94% Say Zimmerman Winning His Defense...
Anti-Fascism

United States

#126 Jul 1, 2013
Phantom309 wrote:
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I'm no expert but as I understand the law in most states,southern ones anyway ,they would have to prove that Zimmerman failed to even try to follow the dispatch orders to return to his car,that he approached Martin or even stood his ground while Martin approached him and shot him totally unprovoked.
I don't see how they can prove that especially when the police obviously had no evidence of it that night or they would have arrested him then.
Dispatch can only suggest, not "give orders" though. Dispatch has 0 - ZERO - authority. No one is required to listen to what dispatch tells them when they dial 911 or call the police station on a non-emergency line.

Even if Zimmerman blatantly disregarded what dispatch merely suggested and kept following Trayvon on foot, it still doesn't prove Zimmerman murdered Trayvon in cold-blooded murder.

If he kept following, it only proves he didn't want to lose sight of the suspect (in his mind); there's nothing wrong with that, concerning a citizen looking out for his neighborhoods well-being.

Now can they prove Zimmerman offensively attacked Trayvon without good cause?

I'm waiting... and waiting... and waiting... yet nothing and nothing and... more nothing!:-)

What Zimmerman said could've easily went down. We don't throw people in prison simply because no camera was there to show us how they defended themselves from a thug-attacker pounding on their face and smashing their skull into the concrete. Sadly, many of these racially-blinded people on this forum don't see it that way.

Sorry for the rant; not meant toward you, except just a minor correction on the dispatch "order" part, which doesn't matter, since it's 100% legal to disregard what mere dispatch says; just don't commit a crime while doing so, and all is good.
Anti-Fascism

United States

#127 Jul 1, 2013
Guest wrote:
After reading some posts here and others on other sites, one thing is obvious, some Americans have no idea how the legal system works. Some comments posted suggest Zimmerman should go to jail for following a young unarmed boy...yeah...sorry it doesn't work that way... The state has the burden to prove Zimmerman committed murder in the second degree... Zimmerman's defense does not have that burden. So far, the
The state has done a poor job by establishing behond a reasonable doubt he killed Martin due to a depraved mind that is needed when determining murder in the second degree. People are not convicted of murder alone due to a tragic( in this case very tragic) incident where emotions run high.people are convicted of murder of 1,2 or 3 degree based on proving behond a reasonable doubt that the victims death resulted within a States statues which define murder.Sympathy for a family's loss does not convict second degree murder, proving a depraved mind, malice, indifference for a human life does. So far, the prosecution has struggled establishing that.
Agreed.

Unless they're keeping something hidden until a latter point in time then, so far, they've failed to convince me that Zimmerman is "guilty" of murder. They've not even proven him guilty of any crime at all, yet certainly not murder itself.

1USA1

“For F***'s Sake”

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Tanner Flats

#128 Jul 1, 2013
It's almost over, the prostitution failed to prove its case so far! SHOCKER!!!!!
Guest

Melbourne, FL

#129 Jul 1, 2013
Phantom309 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm no expert but as I understand the law in most states,southern ones anyway ,they would have to prove that Zimmerman failed to even try to follow the dispatch orders to return to his car,that he approached Martin or even stood his ground while Martin approached him and shot him totally unprovoked.
I don't see how they can prove that especially when the police obviously had no evidence of it that night or they would have arrested him then.
a non emergency 911 despatch personal response stating " you do not need to do that" doesnt constitute in any way as proof of a 2nd degre murder .Proving his reactions to a dispatchers suggestion due to liability doesn't prove murder in the second degree, him having a depraved mind to kill another does. Which the state of Florida has not been able to establish...Also, your post has nothing to do with proving zimmerman had a depraved mind, which is the basis of convicting a person of second degre murder in the state of Florida. Please research Florida rules of criminal procedure before you base your openion. Basing a a due to media, sensitivity, and disregard to Florida law just makes you look ignorent.
Guest

Melbourne, FL

#130 Jul 1, 2013
I apologize for my poor grammar and misspelling,up late bored on Internet trying to fall asleep=multiple mistakes..opps
Guest

Melbourne, FL

#132 Jul 1, 2013
Also,The auto correct while typing tired made me not notice other mistakes , resulting in comments not only do not make any sense but confusing to others.
Cruel Summer

Houston, TX

#133 Jul 2, 2013
The greatest prosecutor on earth could not prove second degree murder in this case. No fkn' way. If the prosecution was actually serious about giving themselves even a slight chance of getting a conviction, they would have went for manslaughter. Too late now. Zimmerman walks. No sweat.
HODOR88

Boiling Springs, SC

#135 Jul 2, 2013
Six females that were too stupid to get out of jury duty will determine the fate of George Zimmerman. A conviction will only be more evidence of the downward spiral of American society. A society poisoned by a sickness known as liberalism.
If the trial outcome is an innocent one, then the next question is: Who should be financially responsible? Al Sharpton, who sold us a completely different Trayvon than the one that he ended up being? NBC, who altered the tape to make Zimmerman appear racially motivated? The New Black Panthers, who placed the bounty on Zimmermans head? Trayvons parents for the poor parenting, and the profits they are making? Dee Dee, for not telling the truth? The black community, who only value the life of a murdered black teen when the killer isn't black? Trayvon, for making the decision to confront the creepy ass cracker? George, for not letting Trayvon kill him?
Everyone involved?
Remember what the earliest impression you had when hearing about this murder. Trayvon was an angel. His girlfriend was sweet. George was a monster that hunted the kid down and shot him like a dog.
Would you have marched for justice if you knew then what you know now?
HODOR88

Boiling Springs, SC

#136 Jul 2, 2013
One additional comment: The best DEFENSE witnesses ever are there at the request of the PROSECUTION. Hilarious!

Its Hellywood

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#137 Jul 2, 2013
Why do you uneducated white racists think Zimmerman's life connects to any of yours? You people are losers. Zimmerman doesn't effect me at all. What happened to Trayvon proves that racism still exists in America and its sad, and if he gets off it will just prove that the "just-his" system of the white man is still corrupt. Nothing new there. You bigots live in fantasy land. Who cares losers. Go to school or do something productive. No one cares. Oh, and Zimmerman is guilty regardless.
Roofis the Truthteller

Lakeland, FL

#139 Jul 2, 2013
Its Hellywood wrote:
Why do you uneducated white racists think Zimmerman's life connects to any of yours? You people are losers. Zimmerman doesn't effect me at all. What happened to Trayvon proves that racism still exists in America and its sad, and if he gets off it will just prove that the "just-his" system of the white man is still corrupt. Nothing new there. You bigots live in fantasy land. Who cares losers. Go to school or do something productive. No one cares. Oh, and Zimmerman is guilty regardless.
You were sure that GZ would be found guilty yesterday! What happened Pinhead? Lol The only racism exposed here is done by BLACKS, BLACKS, BLACKS, BLACKS and BLACKS! If YOU weren't so uneducated, inbred, weak AND stupid you'd see that! Roflmao atchu B O Y......das raht

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#140 Jul 2, 2013
Roofis the Truthteller wrote:
<quoted text> You were sure that GZ would be found guilty yesterday! What happened Pinhead? Lol The only racism exposed here is done by BLACKS, BLACKS, BLACKS, BLACKS and BLACKS! If YOU weren't so uneducated, inbred, weak AND stupid you'd see that! Roflmao atchu B O Y......das raht
The only racism here is you WHITE,WHITE,WHITE,WHITE,WHITE REDNECKS
if you losers weren't so beyond any decency you would acknowledge your depredations and sign out for good
stuffofstuff

Saltville, VA

#141 Jul 2, 2013
everytime you say GZ it makes me think your saying guard zone..
stuffofstuff

Saltville, VA

#143 Jul 2, 2013
if black is there they can shoot who they want and probably do anyway..
stuffofstuff

Saltville, VA

#144 Jul 2, 2013
but that's only in florida...
stuffofstuff

Saltville, VA

#145 Jul 2, 2013
go Ahead and shoot each other it's legal in florida..
stuffofstuff

Saltville, VA

#146 Jul 2, 2013
if ya hate someone just invite them to florida..
stuffofstuff

Saltville, VA

#147 Jul 2, 2013
trayvon died already he doesn't even count as a side..

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#148 Jul 2, 2013
I hear wet grass wrote:
Legal Insurrection seems the type of site that's likely to attract quite a few lawyer types. So it is interesting and probably quite informative that after the first real week of George Zimmerman's trial, and after 816 votes, 94% of those who've voted say they believe George Zimmerman is winning his self-defense case.
31 people, less than 4%, have expressed the opinion that the prosecution is winning the case, with another 2% or so not sure.
Why don't you address this information in a avatar where someone can get back to you on it? All you are doing is running your mouth and hiding...which is typical of racists.
I hear wet grass

Tempe, AZ

#149 Jul 2, 2013
Brngthtrth2u wrote:
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Why don't you address this information in a avatar where someone can get back to you on it? All you are doing is running your mouth and hiding...which is typical of racists.
Do you have a specific question relating to the post you replied to??????

Probably not.

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