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Why is it that non black men seem to treat black women better than black men do?

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Since: Jan 12

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#1 Feb 27, 2012
I've heard many black women talk about receiving better overall treatment from men who are not black. That's really sad. Now of course not every single black guy doesn't know how to treat a girl and not every single non black guy is going to treat a girl wonderfully just because he's not black. That's common sense so save your breath with that typical, predictable response.

It's nothing new that a lot of black men just can't seem to get their act together. Whether it's being ghetto trash and not having any social barriers or good manners or if it's trying to make black women feel worth less for their Afro centric features. I've seen quite a few black women, usually darker complected black women, talk about how it has been non black men who have treated them the best. Whenever their beauty has been praised and deeply appreciated, it has come from a man who is not black. Even with my personal experiences, guys who are not black just seem to be more mentally generous. They can give more mentally than black men have been able to give me mentally in terms of appreciation and not being judgmental, having an open mind to my identity and not expecting me to resonate a stereotype, and overall just not placing this stupid, stereotypical bs on me.

What's up with this?
I would honestly get weak in the knees for a refined black man who has cleared all the stereotypical, ignorant, unsatisfying, annoying bs from his mind but I have yet to find a black man like that. In all honestly, black men are pushing me in the direction of dating other races
jade

San Jose, CA

#2 Feb 27, 2012
I suppose each woman attracts what they believe. I've never attracted, nor seen or heard from the sisters I deal with that white men treat black women better than black men do.

I don't even see it in the real world when I read about various celebrity relationships where a black woman is with a white man. It seems from my observation to be the same, black or white. Men are just men and whatever man a woman attracts is who she attracts.

It's like abused women always attracting abusive men. That is not by accident. The abusive men can not only sniff them out, but these women also have esteem issues when they keep attracting the same type of guy.

So if a woman believes she can only attract white men who are good to her, then that is all she will attract. I believe I can attract any race of man who will be good to me. I don't' invite any other way of thinking into my life. All the black men I've been with were very good men & relatively good to me. Most times the relationship didn't last because we grew apart. But never because they treated me badly. Nor to any negative degree greater than how I've seen black women being treated by white men.

Just my experience. Sorry to learn you have those experiences. Bummer.
WORTHLESS BW

United States

#3 Feb 27, 2012
Why don't the non-bm marry the 68% of single AA mothers?

Why don't non-bm marry the AAW instead of using them for sexual gratification or sex toys.

The AAW failed to understand feminism freed the AAM from commitment and made her a sexul toy for the world.

Nobody wants to be blamed for the actions of irresponsible AAW that "believe" she's god!
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Diagnostic criteria for 301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

(4) requires excessive admiration

(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Like all psychopaths narcissists lack empathy and consider co-workers, subordinates and family members as objects that can be instrumental in achieving certain goals(tools). It should be stressed that for narcissist they are not humans they are just tools. 

“It really don't matter”

Level 4

Since: Jan 12

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#4 Feb 27, 2012
Ouch, You really dnt like people from the ghetto huh?

Thnk abt it like this for every black broken home you get a BW or BM who lack in a certain somthng.

Anyways I know what you talking about.
WORTHLESS BW

United States

#5 Feb 27, 2012
This is what an AAW calls good treatment

Find her
Feed her
Fk her
Forget her

And nobody is marrying her!
Fluke

Bangkok, Thailand

#6 Feb 27, 2012
Coca-Cola Body wrote:
Ouch, You really dnt like people from the ghetto huh?
Isnt it considered to be cool to be from the ghetto?
MDJ

Since: Apr 07

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#7 Feb 27, 2012
Black men shouldn't have to push you into dating other races of men. If you find a man who makes you happy and the feelings are genuine and he has your best interest then you should date him. Not use the excuse that black men pushed you to do it because you couldn't find a black man who had your best interest.

All relationships start off great in the beginning. A man is going to woo you until he gets you. And when he gets you then it will be like any other relationships. The disagreements, not communicating, arguing, etc........

I don't understand why this berating of black men and women is so popular on Topix. Black Men are great! And if he's not.....then address it.

But good luck to finding your non black man.

Since: Jan 12

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#8 Feb 27, 2012
WORTHLESS BW wrote:
Why don't the non-bm marry the 68% of single AA mothers?
Why don't non-bm marry the AAW instead of using them for sexual gratification or sex toys.
The AAW failed to understand feminism freed the AAM from commitment and made her a sexul toy for the world.
Nobody wants to be blamed for the actions of irresponsible AAW that "believe" she's god!
.
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Diagnostic criteria for 301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
(4) requires excessive admiration
(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Like all psychopaths narcissists lack empathy and consider co-workers, subordinates and family members as objects that can be instrumental in achieving certain goals(tools). It should be stressed that for narcissist they are not humans they are just tools. 
well this post was a waste of time!
Fluke

Bangkok, Thailand

#9 Feb 27, 2012
WORTHLESS BW wrote:
Why don't the non-bm marry the 68% of single AA mothers?
Why don't non-bm marry the AAW instead of using them for sexual gratification or sex toys.
The AAW failed to understand feminism freed the AAM from commitment and made her a sexul toy for the world.
Nobody wants to be blamed for the actions of irresponsible AAW that "believe" she's god!
.
.
Diagnostic criteria for 301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
(4) requires excessive admiration
(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Like all psychopaths narcissists lack empathy and consider co-workers, subordinates and family members as objects that can be instrumental in achieving certain goals(tools). It should be stressed that for narcissist they are not humans they are just tools. 
jeezzzz, that sounds like me in 7 of the 9 examples , sound I seek professional help ?
candaycoated

Manhattan, KS

#10 Feb 27, 2012
maybe if the black mothers and fathers stop treating their sons like shid there would be better black men out there.
dweeb

Baltimore, MD

#11 Feb 27, 2012
If we honestly want to cut past the PC BS about this topic. Which seems to come up every 3 months.
Black women aren't attracted to the same type of men. Based on skin color. I wish it wasn't so but that is the case.

Black women seem to like Black male assholes and nerdy liberal white guys. IDK why but that seems to be the case. If a Black woman went from a "thuggish" Black guy to a "thuggish" white guy. Then made a comparison to see which one treated her better. That would be an apple to apple comparison. But that is not what happens.
Black women seem to date the self absorbed jerk Black guy. That's her right. But when it comes to dating outside of her race. Now she has eyes for the "lames". I guess a "lame" in a different skin color makes the difference.

Is that too real?

“seeing is believing”

Level 6

Since: Jun 11

London / England

#12 Feb 27, 2012
Miss_Cocoa wrote:
I've heard many black women talk about receiving better overall treatment from men who are not black. That's really sad. Now of course not every single black guy doesn't know how to treat a girl and not every single non black guy is going to treat a girl wonderfully just because he's not black. That's common sense so save your breath with that typical, predictable response.
It's nothing new that a lot of black men just can't seem to get their act together. Whether it's being ghetto trash and not having any social barriers or good manners or if it's trying to make black women feel worth less for their Afro centric features. I've seen quite a few black women, usually darker complected black women, talk about how it has been non black men who have treated them the best. Whenever their beauty has been praised and deeply appreciated, it has come from a man who is not black. Even with my personal experiences, guys who are not black just seem to be more mentally generous. They can give more mentally than black men have been able to give me mentally in terms of appreciation and not being judgmental, having an open mind to my identity and not expecting me to resonate a stereotype, and overall just not placing this stupid, stereotypical bs on me.
What's up with this?
I would honestly get weak in the knees for a refined black man who has cleared all the stereotypical, ignorant, unsatisfying, annoying bs from his mind but I have yet to find a black man like that. In all honestly, black men are pushing me in the direction of dating other races
You should never limit yourself to only dating black men anyway. Whilst you are wasting your time waiting for Mr Black another non black person could be loving you and taking care of you. I think that if you are deserving of love them you should allow yourself the possiblity to find love from outside of your race if there are not enough suitable candidates within it.

Good luck on your voyage of discovery.

“It really don't matter”

Level 4

Since: Jan 12

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#13 Feb 27, 2012
Fluke wrote:
<quoted text>
Isnt it considered to be cool to be from the ghetto?
Is that what you think?
dweeb

Baltimore, MD

#14 Feb 27, 2012
Miss Cocoa is a fat girl name. Good luck with your white nerd prince precious.

“seeing is believing”

Level 6

Since: Jun 11

London / England

#15 Feb 27, 2012
Fluke wrote:
<quoted text>
jeezzzz, that sounds like me in 7 of the 9 examples , sound I seek professional help ?
I would.

“Black Luv or Bust!”

Level 7

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#17 Feb 27, 2012
Miss_Cocoa wrote:
I've heard many black women talk about receiving better overall treatment from men who are not black. That's really sad. Now of course not every single black guy doesn't know how to treat a girl and not every single non black guy is going to treat a girl wonderfully just because he's not black. That's common sense so save your breath with that typical, predictable response.
It's nothing new that a lot of black men just can't seem to get their act together. Whether it's being ghetto trash and not having any social barriers or good manners or if it's trying to make black women feel worth less for their Afro centric features. I've seen quite a few black women, usually darker complected black women, talk about how it has been non black men who have treated them the best. Whenever their beauty has been praised and deeply appreciated, it has come from a man who is not black. Even with my personal experiences, guys who are not black just seem to be more mentally generous. They can give more mentally than black men have been able to give me mentally in terms of appreciation and not being judgmental, having an open mind to my identity and not expecting me to resonate a stereotype, and overall just not placing this stupid, stereotypical bs on me.
What's up with this?
I would honestly get weak in the knees for a refined black man who has cleared all the stereotypical, ignorant, unsatisfying, annoying bs from his mind but I have yet to find a black man like that. In all honestly, black men are pushing me in the direction of dating other races
WHY IS IT THAT NONBW...

TREAT BM WITH MORE:

RESPECT,CONSIDERATION,UNDERSTA NDING,APPRECIATION,AFFECTION.. .ARE MORE OPEN TO TRYING NEW THINGS...BOTH IN AND OUTSIDE OF THE BED...ARE MORE PLEASANT TO BE AROUND...SMILE MORE...ARE MORE GIVING...ARE BETTER MOTHERS TO BM CHILDREN...ARE MORE SUPPORTIVE, MORE EDUCATED AND INTELLIGENT,MORE PATIENT AND...

ARE JUST TREAT BM BETTER OVERALL?

Since: Jan 12

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#18 Feb 27, 2012
WORTHLESS BW wrote:
This is what an AAW calls good treatment
Find her
Feed her
Fk her
Forget her
And nobody is marrying her!
lol, that's not true. You're clearly making so much effort to make black women feel bad but all you're doing is making yourself look like a miserable, lonely individual who has nothing greater to be doing with their life and no one who cares about you enough to pull your pathetic a$$ off the internet and show you how life is really supposed to be lived!

Since: Jan 12

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#19 Feb 27, 2012
dweeb wrote:
Miss Cocoa is a fat girl name. Good luck with your white nerd prince precious.
1. Miss Cocoa is not a "fat girl name"
2. Stating the truth about black men doesn't automatically mean I want white men.
3. Good luck with such an illiterate mind :) Give your offspring my condolences ;P

Since: Jan 12

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#20 Feb 27, 2012
MDJ wrote:
Black men shouldn't have to push you into dating other races of men. If you find a man who makes you happy and the feelings are genuine and he has your best interest then you should date him. Not use the excuse that black men pushed you to do it because you couldn't find a black man who had your best interest.
All relationships start off great in the beginning. A man is going to woo you until he gets you. And when he gets you then it will be like any other relationships. The disagreements, not communicating, arguing, etc........
I don't understand why this berating of black men and women is so popular on Topix. Black Men are great! And if he's not.....then address it.
But good luck to finding your non black man.
Don't try to speak for me. Me saying that black men have pushed me into the arms of interracial dating is not an excuse. Black man CAN BE great, but it seems so hard to find a great one. I think they act better for non black women.

“Black Luv or Bust!”

Level 7

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#21 Feb 27, 2012
Miss_Cocoa wrote:
I've heard many black women talk about receiving better overall treatment from men who are not black. That's really sad. Now of course not every single black guy doesn't know how to treat a girl and not every single non black guy is going to treat a girl wonderfully just because he's not black. That's common sense so save your breath with that typical, predictable response.
It's nothing new that a lot of black men just can't seem to get their act together. Whether it's being ghetto trash and not having any social barriers or good manners or if it's trying to make black women feel worth less for their Afro centric features. I've seen quite a few black women, usually darker complected black women, talk about how it has been non black men who have treated them the best. Whenever their beauty has been praised and deeply appreciated, it has come from a man who is not black. Even with my personal experiences, guys who are not black just seem to be more mentally generous. They can give more mentally than black men have been able to give me mentally in terms of appreciation and not being judgmental, having an open mind to my identity and not expecting me to resonate a stereotype, and overall just not placing this stupid, stereotypical bs on me.
What's up with this?
I would honestly get weak in the knees for a refined black man who has cleared all the stereotypical, ignorant, unsatisfying, annoying bs from his mind but I have yet to find a black man like that. In all honestly, black men are pushing me in the direction of dating other races
*AND IN REALITY YOU ARE NOT AS YOU SEE YOURSELF EITHER!

WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW,WHEN AND WHERE DO BW GET ALL OF THESE GREAT ATTRIBUTES WHILE GROWING UP...BUT SOMEHOW BM DON'T...
WHEN WE IN FACT COME FROM THE VERY SAME RAW MATERIAL,BACKGROUND AND ORIENTATION TO THE WORLD AROUND US!

*IT'S LIKE BW BELIEVE THAT WHEN BLACK PARENTS MOVE TO BETTER NEIGHBORHOODS OR EXPOSE THEIR CHILDREN TO POSITIVE OUTLETS...THEY ONLY TAKE LITTLE BLACK GIRLS...IT'S CONFUSING TO ME...BECAUSE AGAIN...RAISING THREE SUBURBAN BLACK MALES...I KNOW ALL KINDS OF OTHER BLACK PARENTS WITH BLACK MALE CHILDREN WHO SEEM TO HAVE THE VERY SAME MANNERS,VALUES AND PRIORITIES AS OUR CHILDREN AND OTHER CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY!...HMMMM?

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