Olmec archaeological facts punk & deb...
asho

Eskilstuna, Sweden

#24 Jan 4, 2014
Raptors Revenge wrote:
<quoted text>Show us negroes that were capable of building a boat able to cross the ocean 3,000 years ago. They couldn't do it 400 years ago.
Since Africans did not keep written records we will never know. But to give you a clue, the oldest canoe in the world was discovered in Nigeria. A few years ago some African fishermen run into a storm. They landed in brazil three weeks later. "2 out of 5 survived the ordeal. There is an African King that sent out an expedition to discover the world westward many of the huge boats never made it back. Could they be the Olmec? My theory is a bunch of Africans made it to the americas but never returned to their country.

Show us Indians who look like the Olmec? Why would they make huge stone heads weighing tons that did not look like them.
Chuck

United States

#26 Jan 4, 2014
Raptors Revenge wrote:
<quoted text>Show us negroes that were capable of building a boat able to cross the ocean 3,000 years ago. They couldn't do it 400 years ago.
8000 B.C. Nigeria. "Africa's oldest known boat" the Dufuna Canoe was discovered near the region of the River Yobe in Nigeria. The Canoe was discovered by a Fulani herdsman in May 1987, in Dufuna Village while digging a well. The canoe’s “almost black wood”, said to be African mahogany, as “entirely an organic material”. Various Radio-Carbon tests conducted in laboratories of reputable Universities in Europe and America indicate that the Canoe is over 8000 years old, thus making it the oldest in Africa and 3rd oldest in the World. Little is known of the period to which the boat belongs, in archaeological terms it is described as an early phase of the Later Stone Age, which began rather more than 12,000 years ago and ended with the appearance of pottery. The lab results redefined the pre-history of African water transport, ranking the Dufuna canoe as the world’s third oldest known dugout. Older than it are the dugouts from Pesse, Netherlands, and Noyen-sur-Seine, France. But evidence of an 8000-year-old tradition of boat building in Africa throws cold water on the assumption that maritime transport developed much later there in comparison with Europe.Peter Breunig of the University of Frankfurt, Germany, an archaeologist involved in the project, says the canoe’s age “forces a reconsideration of Africa’s role in the history of water transport”. It shows, he adds,“that the cultural history of Africa was not determined by Near Eastern and European influences but took its own, in many cases parallel, course”. Breunig, adding that it even outranks in style European finds of similar age. According to him,“The bow and stern are both carefully worked to points, giving the boat a notably more elegant form”, compared to “the dugout made of conifer wood from Pesse in the Netherlands, whose blunt ends and thick sides seem crude”. To go by its stylistic sophistication, he reasons,“It is highly probable that the Dufuna boat does not represent the beginning of a tradition, but had already undergone a long development, and that the origins of water transport in Africa lie even further back in time.”The "oldest known boat" found in Egypt is dated 5000 years old, located in the desert sands of Abydos, Egypt. See also Archaeological research in Northeastern Nigeria.
Chuck

United States

#27 Jan 4, 2014
Raptors Revenge wrote:
<quoted text>Then what happened to them? Why is it not recorded by the spaniards that they found black people in south america? Why is it that all of their reports are about brown skin people, and not black people? The main question is why do negroes always try to make claim to something they know is not true? No other race makes such outlandish claims, but negroes.
Why would white spaniards in that time period admit to blacks being in the new world? Most white history is fabricated. Christopher Columbus didn't discover America. Why would there be Africoid heads in south America if there were no Africans every present?
asho

Eskilstuna, Sweden

#28 Jan 4, 2014
Raptors Revenge wrote:
<quoted text>Then what happened to them? Why is it not recorded by the spaniards that they found black people in south america? Why is it that all of their reports are about brown skin people, and not black people? The main question is why do negroes always try to make claim to something they know is not true? No other race makes such outlandish claims, but negroes.
They mixed with the locals and disappeared like blacks in Argentina disppeared recently. Problem here is one can not tell whether the African DNA in the natives in the region is recent or ancient. So when you see natives with semi negr*id feature you they could be the descendent of the Olmec. The Africans left the Olmec head to tell their people, if they ever made it to thev Americas, that they survived.
TKY

UK

#29 Jan 4, 2014
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would white spaniards in that time period admit to blacks being in the new world? Most white history is fabricated. Christopher Columbus didn't discover America. Why would there be Africoid heads in south America if there were no Africans every present?
Spaniards buried most of the heads and burned their scripts.
TKY

UK

#30 Jan 4, 2014
Raptors Revenge wrote:
<quoted text>Show us negroes that were capable of building a boat able to cross the ocean 3,000 years ago. They couldn't do it 400 years ago.
You think you are posting on one of those stupid why are black people fat threads. If you don't know your own history better shut up or ill give you a real history lesson.
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#33 Jan 4, 2014
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would white spaniards in that time period admit to blacks being in the new world? Most white history is fabricated. Christopher Columbus didn't discover America. Why would there be Africoid heads in south America if there were no Africans every present?
Um....native Americans have NO African DNA so the Olmecs were all gay or shooting blanks!
World DNA Map:
www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogrou...

“Obsidian Princess”

Level 8

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#34 Jan 9, 2014
dummy, OLMEC DNA would not be the same as natives that came here before or after them.

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#35 Jan 9, 2014
asho wrote:
<quoted text>
Since Africans did not keep written records we will never know. But to give you a clue, the oldest canoe in the world was discovered in Nigeria. A few years ago some African fishermen run into a storm. They landed in brazil three weeks later. "2 out of 5 survived the ordeal. There is an African King that sent out an expedition to discover the world westward many of the huge boats never made it back. Could they be the Olmec? My theory is a bunch of Africans made it to the americas but never returned to their country.
Show us Indians who look like the Olmec? Why would they make huge stone heads weighing tons that did not look like them.
Yes, many Natives look like Olmec stone heads as well as pottery and other sculptures.

A canoe doesn't mean ocean voyages. Many peoples had canoes. The Iroquois didn't cross the Atlantic and neither did Africans.

Then you jump to Medieval kings... all of which happened long after the Olmec civilization was gone.

No, the Olmec were from Mexico-Guatemala originally. They are one of the earliest of many civilizations to appear in Mexico, decline and fade away. The civilization of Cholula was created by unknown people; are you going to claim it as well?

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#36 Jan 9, 2014
dragonpat wrote:
dummy, OLMEC DNA would not be the same as natives that came here before or after them.
Oh they just magickally disappeared?

No, the DNA in Mexico from before and after the Olmecs is the same, and it is the same for them.

It is proven by archaeology that the Olmecs originated in Soconusco. Early versions of large stone heads are found there. Pottery styles trace back to there from the Olmec.

In eastern Soconusco were early Maya. The Mexican calendar seems to have come from either or both of these people, the proto-Olmec or the Maya. Many anthropologists believe in fact that the Olmec language was related to Mayan, rather than to Mixe-Zoque.

“Obsidian Princess”

Level 8

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#37 Jan 9, 2014
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh they just magickally disappeared?
No, the DNA in Mexico from before and after the Olmecs is the same, and it is the same for them.
It is proven by archaeology that the Olmecs originated in Soconusco. Early versions of large stone heads are found there. Pottery styles trace back to there from the Olmec.
In eastern Soconusco were early Maya. The Mexican calendar seems to have come from either or both of these people, the proto-Olmec or the Maya. Many anthropologists believe in fact that the Olmec language was related to Mayan, rather than to Mixe-Zoque.
you just said a whole bunch of nothing. I will repost that knotty headed, thick lipped and wide nostril OLMEC HEAD later on.
boom

Eskilstuna, Sweden

#38 Jan 9, 2014
Ish Tov wrote:
http://news.nationalgeographic .com/news/2013/13/130425-maya- origins-olmec-pyramid-ceibal-i nomata-archaeology-science/
Brief description of the interaction across the Olmec-Maya region as civilization developed indigenously in various places. This notion that Mayan civilization was at least as old if not older than Olmec, is now supported by various finds.
All of this arose on a “Neolithic” base, called the “Archaic culture” which arose with the domestication of corn and was spread over much of Mesoamerica. The Mayan/Olmec calendar dates from this period.
The origin of both Olmecs and Maya is believed to be in Soconusco, going by the archaeological evidence.
http://books.google.com/books...
In this extensive survey of Olmec archaeology we also see that development of Olmec civilization was indigenous and local. There is no sudden appearance of outsiders bringing civilization. Sorry, no Africans.
Afronazis: WHATCHAGONNADO?
Show us native indians that look like the Olmec stone heads. I do not trust most studies by euros or latinos in this case when it comes to Africa. No "white person" is going to admit africans reached the americas before them. The myth of arabs or whites being the creators of the great Zimbabwe civilization In the heart of Africa still persist.
asho

Eskilstuna, Sweden

#39 Jan 9, 2014
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, many Natives look like Olmec stone heads as well as pottery and other sculptures.
A canoe doesn't mean ocean voyages. Many peoples had canoes. The Iroquois didn't cross the Atlantic and neither did Africans.
Then you jump to Medieval kings... all of which happened long after the Olmec civilization was gone.
No, the Olmec were from Mexico-Guatemala originally. They are one of the earliest of many civilizations to appear in Mexico, decline and fade away. The civilization of Cholula was created by unknown people; are you going to claim it as well?
Can you post couple of pics of indians that look like the Olmec heads please? Am waiting.

BTW africans living along the coast could have built big fishing boats in the past. Before the discovery of the nigeria canoe, the world believed arabs or europeans introduced water transportation to africans in recent times. Some educated white people have speculated that the canoe could have been washed down to nigeria from Egypt by a flood. LOL! Go figure.
asho

Eskilstuna, Sweden

#40 Jan 10, 2014
One more thing, why are the Olmec heads found only on the east coast and not the west coast. Africa lies east, no?^_^
asho

Eskilstuna, Sweden

#41 Jan 10, 2014
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>

Then you jump to Medieval kings... all of which happened long after the Olmec civilization was gone.
?
Those medieval seaworthy boats could have been a long tradition going way back in time. The time of the Olmecs.

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#42 Jan 10, 2014
dragonpat wrote:
<quoted text>
you just said a whole bunch of nothing. I will repost that knotty headed, thick lipped and wide nostril OLMEC HEAD later on.
No, imbecile, I posted facts.
The Olmecs came from Soconusco. That is a fact. Their culture has been traced back to there by archaeologists.
The Olmec heads look like Native people. Obviously you've never been around the Native peoples of that region, but I have.
And their DNA is 100% Native American.
Y'all racist Afronazi culture-vultures lose! Now get your grubby greasy racist paws off other peoples' histories!

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#43 Jan 10, 2014
boom wrote:
<quoted text>
Show us native indians that look like the Olmec stone heads. I do not trust most studies by euros or latinos in this case when it comes to Africa. No "white person" is going to admit africans reached the americas before them. The myth of arabs or whites being the creators of the great Zimbabwe civilization In the heart of Africa still persist.
You're simply a racist, therefore subhuman scum.

“No white person”??? LOL... yeah right, all of science is wrong unless the scientist isn't white?

Zimbabwe was created by Africans, and has nothing to do with this. But YOU are committing the same crime as Eurocentrics in claiming other peoples' civilizations!

Are you really this stupid? It's wrong to claim Zimbabwe for Euros or Arabs, but you can go claiming Mexican civilization?

Wrong. The Olmecs were 100% Native American.

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#44 Jan 10, 2014
asho wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you post couple of pics of indians that look like the Olmec heads please? Am waiting.
BTW africans living along the coast could have built big fishing boats in the past. Before the discovery of the nigeria canoe, the world believed arabs or europeans introduced water transportation to africans in recent times. Some educated white people have speculated that the canoe could have been washed down to nigeria from Egypt by a flood. LOL! Go figure.
“could have...”

“speculated...”

BS

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#45 Jan 10, 2014
asho wrote:
One more thing, why are the Olmec heads found only on the east coast and not the west coast. Africa lies east, no?^_^
The early Olmec stone heads are found in Soconusco, which is the Pacific coastal plain of Chiapas and Guatemala. Soconusco was the place of origin of the Olmecs.

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#46 Jan 10, 2014
asho wrote:
<quoted text>
Those medieval seaworthy boats could have been a long tradition going way back in time. The time of the Olmecs.
Could have...

BS

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

African-American Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News King's legacy celebrated as Trump, Lewis duel l... 3 min U Stupid 57
why do black women pat their heads? (Jul '10) 4 min Lori899 37
Does Race Biologically Exist? 6 min Paul 500
News Barack Obama, our next President (Nov '08) 6 min Realtime 1,478,716
No more BM/BW couple? Is black love dead? 7 min Smoke weed everyday 10
Are black people really the real jews? (Oct '12) 9 min Barros 1,774
Brazil Black University Celebrates MLK Day. 13 min Ben Quick 3
Happy ROBERT E. LEE DAY yall! 1 hr Ben Quick 13
Italians are NOT White!!!! (Feb '12) 3 hr jgarcia658 6,626
Parents Cut Her Off for Dating a Black Man 4 hr KIP 113
More from around the web