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Puerto Ricans And African Americans Are not that different

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#1 Sep 11, 2010
i have grown up around alot of puerto rican people, and most of the time i dont know if there puerto rican or african american unless they tell me themselves, the too races are very similar, check this

Puerto Rican = Taino/indian, African, And Spanish/Spaniard
African American = Native American, African, And British,French,( and a little bit of Spanish/spaniard)

In slaves times the taino indians and native americans were made into slaves along with african americans. Thus mixing the too races, also there were many times where indians and slaves would join together and fight agianst there european slave masters, some of these groups were refferd to as "Zambo" "Griffe", Also Alot of times slaves would be raped by there masters often resulting in that of a mixed child, We are the decendants of those people, this history is both Puerto Rican And African American, Let me also point out that not all puerto ricans are light skinned some are very dark, and not all african americans are dark skinned some are very light, such as Beyonce' and Robert Ri'chard and Bianca Lawson, Ruby Dee and Tisha Campbell-Martin to name a few, Most African americans are lighter then there darker ancestors BUT let me also say that being Light skinned DOES NOT always mean your mixed, there are alot of unmixed pure blood Africans in Africa that are VERY lightskinned to support my statements i have included some vidoes on youtube that help prove this,



http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

please no fighting and no racisim, i just want to spread the love and knowledge of the races and there smiliarites

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#2 Sep 11, 2010
UM ask yourself, if we are mixed with similar race groups, why do AA's look different from Puerto Ricans? Puerto Ricans are clearly mixed and we're suppose to be as well yet the AA's don't look mixed when compared to PR. We just look different from blacks around the world.

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#3 Sep 11, 2010
Skin tone has nothing to with being mixed. It is our facial features. Most AA's do not look bi-racial. Let's look at the Asians for a second. You have variations of Asians such as the Chinese, Vietnamese and Filipinos, etc. Even though they all look Asian they all have a slightly different look. So does this mean only one type of Asian is the standard and the others who look differently is mixed?
Boogie Beater

Mechanicsburg, PA

#4 Sep 11, 2010
Orangutans, chimps, gorillas.......... does it really matter which of the apes the kneegers resemble? If your life style more closely aproximated that of humans, then humans might accept you into the human race. Until then, you will remain as kneegers.

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#5 Sep 11, 2010
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UM ask yourself, if we are mixed with similar race groups, why do AA's look different from Puerto Ricans? Puerto Ricans are clearly mixed and we're suppose to be as well yet the AA's don't look mixed when compared to PR. We just look different from blacks around the world.
well it depends on what Africans Americans and puerto ricans you are looking at, by know means did i say they ALL look the same, but i know alot of puerto ricans that could pass for aa and i know alot of aa that could pass for puerto rican, i know puerto ricans who are darker then i am, Obviously puerto ricans are more mixed then african americans, theres no doubt about that , but at the same time there are alot of similarities and it also depends on what you consider "mixed" looking, i happen to know alot of mullatos and light skinned african americans who are quiet often mistaken as puerto ricans but classify themselves as Just African Americans mainly because we as african americans know that we are mixed with native and european blood,but they know that dosent make them less african american because we as african americans know that we can always trace our bloodlines to someone mullato, native american or white regardless of how large or small the percentage is

For instance my grandfather (on my mothers side ) was mullato and my grandmother's grandmother native american, my father is bi-racial he's half native american and half african, but that dosent make me any different from other african americans because most aa can trace there roots to someone native american or white or mulatto

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#6 Sep 11, 2010
Redefined wrote:
Skin tone has nothing to with being mixed. It is our facial features. Most AA's do not look bi-racial. Let's look at the Asians for a second. You have variations of Asians such as the Chinese, Vietnamese and Filipinos, etc. Even though they all look Asian they all have a slightly different look. So does this mean only one type of Asian is the standard and the others who look differently is mixed?
i did say that you dont have to be mixed to be light skinned, did you whatch the video?

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#7 Sep 11, 2010
Boogie Beater wrote:
Orangutans, chimps, gorillas.......... does it really matter which of the apes the kneegers resemble? If your life style more closely aproximated that of humans, then humans might accept you into the human race. Until then, you will remain as kneegers.
Well the thread starter here is talkin' about how the slave masters were having sex with pretty much every African person he came in contact with and you're talkin' about some damn life style, lol If AA's are all mixed, then what does this say about Europeans HMMMM

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#8 Sep 11, 2010
Redefined wrote:
UM ask yourself, if we are mixed with similar race groups, why do AA's look different from Puerto Ricans? Puerto Ricans are clearly mixed and we're suppose to be as well yet the AA's don't look mixed when compared to PR. We just look different from blacks around the world.
btw did you even whatch the videos ? because it clearly confirms my point

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#9 Sep 11, 2010
Tuareg wrote:
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well it depends on what Africans Americans and puerto ricans you are looking at, by know means did i say they ALL look the same, but i know alot of puerto ricans that could pass for aa and i know alot of aa that could pass for puerto rican, i know puerto ricans who are darker then i am, Obviously puerto ricans are more mixed then african americans, theres no doubt about that , but at the same time there are alot of similarities and it also depends on what you consider "mixed" looking, i happen to know alot of mullatos and light skinned african americans who are quiet often mistaken as puerto ricans but classify themselves as Just African Americans mainly because we as african americans know that we are mixed with native and european blood,but they know that dosent make them less african american because we as african americans know that we can always trace our bloodlines to someone mullato, native american or white regardless of how large or small the percentage is
For instance my grandfather (on my mothers side ) was mullato and my grandmother's grandmother native american, my father is bi-racial he's half native american and half african, but that dosent make me any different from other african americans because most aa can trace there roots to someone native american or white or mulatto
Well I'm not saying there are no AA's who are not mixed but for most AA's, they do not look like PR's or Latinos regardless of skin tone. This group is heavily mixed, enough to have it's own ethnic group for obvious reasons. The reason most say all AA's are heavily mixed is because they look differently then some of the Africans however we also look differently then other mixed ethnic groups. On average PR's and AA's do not look alike but there are some who can pass because many PR's have African ancestry.

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#10 Sep 11, 2010
Tuareg wrote:
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btw did you even whatch the videos ? because it clearly confirms my point
Alright I just watched the videos and yeah I understand what you saying now.

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#11 Sep 11, 2010
Tuareg wrote:
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well it depends on what Africans Americans and puerto ricans you are looking at, by know means did i say they ALL look the same, but i know alot of puerto ricans that could pass for aa and i know alot of aa that could pass for puerto rican, i know puerto ricans who are darker then i am, Obviously puerto ricans are more mixed then african americans, theres no doubt about that , but at the same time there are alot of similarities and it also depends on what you consider "mixed" looking, i happen to know alot of mullatos and light skinned african americans who are quiet often mistaken as puerto ricans but classify themselves as Just African Americans mainly because we as african americans know that we are mixed with native and european blood,but they know that dosent make them less african american because we as african americans know that we can always trace our bloodlines to someone mullato, native american or white regardless of how large or small the percentage is
For instance my grandfather (on my mothers side ) was mullato and my grandmother's grandmother native american, my father is bi-racial he's half native american and half african, but that dosent make me any different from other african americans because most aa can trace there roots to someone native american or white or mulatto
I was talkin' about the variations in PR's, mainly the one's who have a heavy combination of mixed ancestry. It is always said that most AA's have this same combination but it is more evident in PR's, you see a difference. Now I understand you have black and white PR's and that's because they are a mixed group. But you can't find the same in AA's. It's just AA's with different skin tones.

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#12 Sep 11, 2010
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Well I'm not saying there are no AA's who are not mixed but for most AA's, they do not look like PR's or Latinos regardless of skin tone. This group is heavily mixed, enough to have it's own ethnic group for obvious reasons. The reason most say all AA's are heavily mixed is because they look differently then some of the Africans however we also look differently then other mixed ethnic groups. On average PR's and AA's do not look alike but there are some who can pass because many PR's have African ancestry.
i'm not saying thay should all be put in the same "racial" grouping

i do know that alot of puerto ricans hae alot of "spaniard" featuers and skinn tones But on the other hand, i have two friends that i'm very close with, One is puerto rican, the other mullato and then there me my skinntone is a goldenbrown and my sister being much ligther then i am, when we all hang out if my peurto rican friend starts speaking spanish people tend to assume that we are all puerto rican, but when we speak they know we are african americans and they assume she is too, i'm actually lighter then my puerto rican friend,

but i'm not trying to cuase an argument, i'm just trying to get wider spectrum understanding on the whole thing

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#13 Sep 11, 2010
Redefined wrote:
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Alright I just watched the videos and yeah I understand what you saying now.
:) thanx

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#14 Sep 11, 2010
Redefined wrote:
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Well I'm not saying there are no AA's who are not mixed but for most AA's, they do not look like PR's or Latinos regardless of skin tone. This group is heavily mixed, enough to have it's own ethnic group for obvious reasons. The reason most say all AA's are heavily mixed is because they look differently then some of the Africans however we also look differently then other mixed ethnic groups. On average PR's and AA's do not look alike but there are some who can pass because many PR's have African ancestry.
thats probably because puerto ricans ( atleast most the i know ) generally dont put themselves in "black" or "white" catagories, but Americans on a whole usually do, but on the other hand there are "white" people who have our blood in them as well, there have been cases were slaves/africans that could pass for white did so to free themselves of slavery, alot of times they would marry off to a pure white family and so on and so on to the point were they are thought they were pure white, so with that being said there are some (not all) white families who have african blood in them, but they generaly dont admitt it unless they get a dna test lol, whatch the movie Feast or all siants, it talks about the creoles and the "gens de couleur libre" thats french for the Free People of Colour

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#15 Sep 11, 2010
Tuareg wrote:
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i'm not saying thay should all be put in the same "racial" grouping
i do know that alot of puerto ricans hae alot of "spaniard" featuers and skinn tones But on the other hand, i have two friends that i'm very close with, One is puerto rican, the other mullato and then there me my skinntone is a goldenbrown and my sister being much ligther then i am, when we all hang out if my peurto rican friend starts speaking spanish people tend to assume that we are all puerto rican, but when we speak they know we are african americans and they assume she is too, i'm actually lighter then my puerto rican friend,
but i'm not trying to cuase an argument, i'm just trying to get wider spectrum understanding on the whole thing
Nah you not causing an argument at all. I see what you saying. I have met PR's who who can pass for AA's also, just like many Dominicans can pass. Both these groups have African ancestry however these groups also carry other ancestry which makes them have different ethnic looks. AA's have the same ethnic but it's their skin tone that varies. That is the difference I've noticed between the two. And as you mentioned, there are some AA's who can pass for PR because some PR's themselves look black because of similar ancestry such as LaLa...Carmelo's wife.

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#16 Sep 11, 2010
Tuareg wrote:
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thats probably because puerto ricans ( atleast most the i know ) generally dont put themselves in "black" or "white" catagories, but Americans on a whole usually do, but on the other hand there are "white" people who have our blood in them as well, there have been cases were slaves/africans that could pass for white did so to free themselves of slavery, alot of times they would marry off to a pure white family and so on and so on to the point were they are thought they were pure white, so with that being said there are some (not all) white families who have african blood in them, but they generaly dont admitt it unless they get a dna test lol, whatch the movie Feast or all siants, it talks about the creoles and the "gens de couleur libre" thats french for the Free People of Colour
True dat. Do you think all whites have AA blood tho? You can tell some of the white PR's do since PR blood carry traces of African ancestry. The Italians supposedly have African blood from what I've heard. That's why many of them have dark features.
NYC_Rican_Papi

Bronx, NY

#18 Oct 10, 2010
Thank you for this post. It clearly states that People have not been exposed to Puerto Ricans. Go to the Bronx NY, U will see that Pricans and AA are very close with each other etc... And for those that dont know. Puerto Ricans and AA invented Hip Hop in the South Bronx New york
miguel

Hollywood, FL

#19 Oct 16, 2010
Most Ricans are heavily mixed race. The mixed ones that "look" Rican ie- not black OR white are literally a mixed bag and how much European or African they are can vary from person to person. Im sure you could get a DNA sample of 1 Rican and he is 40% African, 10% Taino and 50% European. While a sample from another Rican is 75% black and 25% european. those ones would look alot like a black American. And yet there are White puerto Ricans still around. Ricky Martin ? He is white. Maybe he is 12% black or something but there is no one drop rule in Latin America so if you look white you are white. if you look black you are black...and if you look like your typical Rican you are a mulatto.

anyways Ricans are different from black americans that is my point. the black ricans do group heavily with black americans though, thats obvious.
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#20 Oct 16, 2010
Tuareg wrote:
i have grown up around alot of puerto rican people, and most of the time i dont know if there puerto rican or african american unless they tell me themselves, the too races are very similar, check this
Puerto Rican = Taino/indian, African, And Spanish/Spaniard
African American = Native American, African, And British,French,( and a little bit of Spanish/spaniard)
In slaves times the taino indians and native americans were made into slaves along with african americans. Thus mixing the too races, also there were many times where indians and slaves would join together and fight agianst there european slave masters, some of these groups were refferd to as "Zambo" "Griffe", Also Alot of times slaves would be raped by there masters often resulting in that of a mixed child, We are the decendants of those people, this history is both Puerto Rican And African American, Let me also point out that not all puerto ricans are light skinned some are very dark, and not all african americans are dark skinned some are very light, such as Beyonce' and Robert Ri'chard and Bianca Lawson, Ruby Dee and Tisha Campbell-Martin to name a few, Most African americans are lighter then there darker ancestors BUT let me also say that being Light skinned DOES NOT always mean your mixed, there are alot of unmixed pure blood Africans in Africa that are VERY lightskinned to support my statements i have included some vidoes on youtube that help prove this,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =dqM709AXKJEXX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
please no fighting and no racisim, i just want to spread the love and knowledge of the races and there smiliarites
No. You are bunching them all together as one, which is not smart. There are black Puerto Ricans, sure, and mixed ones as well, but there are plenty of Spaniard descent Puerto Ricans which you have not met. Just like americans: you have black, white, native american, asian Americans, and then mixed Americans. Puerto Rican is more a culture, not a race. So you are only forming an opinion on what you've seen, but chose to not acknowledge that there's way more to the subject than YOU have seen. The world doesn't work on merely what one person experiences in their lifetime. Learn that, then you will understand.

You are no different than those ignorant Americans thinking all Latinos are short, fat and Mexican, but ignore all other Latin Americans from Cuba, Puerto Rica, Brazil, Argentina and Mexico who look European and have European backgrounds, and are equally "Latino".

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#21 Oct 19, 2010
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No. You are bunching them all together as one, which is not smart. There are black Puerto Ricans, sure, and mixed ones as well, but there are plenty of Spaniard descent Puerto Ricans which you have not met. Just like americans: you have black, white, native american, asian Americans, and then mixed Americans. Puerto Rican is more a culture, not a race. So you are only forming an opinion on what you've seen, but chose to not acknowledge that there's way more to the subject than YOU have seen. The world doesn't work on merely what one person experiences in their lifetime. Learn that, then you will understand.
You are no different than those ignorant Americans thinking all Latinos are short, fat and Mexican, but ignore all other Latin Americans from Cuba, Puerto Rica, Brazil, Argentina and Mexico who look European and have European backgrounds, and are equally "Latino".
WHOA, wait just a minute ! there is NO need to call me ignorent, for YOUR information i'm not bunching them all up into one group, and just so you know the same thing is in america, actually there are "white" people in america who have african admisture too it shows up sometimes when they get dna tests, KNowon in america is really " pure " anything, if you wanted to teach me that being puerto rican is more a culture and not a race all you had to do was say that, you dont have to get nasty and call me an "ignorent american" i dont think all latino people are short, fat and Mexican, i was simply stating my experience,
next time you could try actually educating a courious person in a positive manner without having to insult them....

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