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pan-africanism is dead: so why do africentrist keep bring it up?

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africagenX

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#1 Jan 3, 2011
Here is my take on the subject as a african I feel Pan-Africanism is dead and is dead and irrelevant to most africans. It was a movement created by Black americans and other non-Blacks and their Black unity fantasy.
Pan-Africanism was a movement like the civil rights movement; where it lasted for a couple of days and died off.
Most africans only care about success and education for their countries. Now a days most african countries are developing on their own with their own unique cultures.
Is is safe to say that pan-africanism is a dream land for afrocentrist african americans and should be left with them solely, since that movement is based on race. Particularily since race is the culture of african americans not foreign blacks? To me it is I don't hear africans talk about pan-africanism only afrocentrist.
I believe Africa will and will progress through globalization and the signs are showing not a dead movement that most africans and other blacks don't know or care about.
So my question is why do these afrocentrist african americans keep bringing up a movement that was created by them and died with them. Why don't they put that energy in their african american community and leave black caribbeans to progress their own communities and africans to concentrate on their community.
OR ARE THEY TRYING TO CONTROL BLACK PEOPLE WORLDWIDE
africagenX

United States

#2 Jan 3, 2011
Correction: Pan africanism was created by afrocentrist african americnas and other non AA or african blacks not non blacks.

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#3 Jan 3, 2011
africagenX wrote:
Here is my take on the subject as a african I feel Pan-Africanism is dead and is dead and irrelevant to most africans. It was a movement created by Black americans and other non-Blacks and their Black unity fantasy.
Pan-Africanism was a movement like the civil rights movement; where it lasted for a couple of days and died off.
Most africans only care about success and education for their countries. Now a days most african countries are developing on their own with their own unique cultures.
Is is safe to say that pan-africanism is a dream land for afrocentrist african americans and should be left with them solely, since that movement is based on race. Particularily since race is the culture of african americans not foreign blacks? To me it is I don't hear africans talk about pan-africanism only afrocentrist.
I believe Africa will and will progress through globalization and the signs are showing not a dead movement that most africans and other blacks don't know or care about.
So my question is why do these afrocentrist african americans keep bringing up a movement that was created by them and died with them. Why don't they put that energy in their african american community and leave black caribbeans to progress their own communities and africans to concentrate on their community.
OR ARE THEY TRYING TO CONTROL BLACK PEOPLE WORLDWIDE
You sound crazy, misdirected, & selfish!
africagenX

United States

#5 Jan 3, 2011
vampiYAH stabB wrote:
<quoted text>You sound crazy, misdirected, & selfish!
NO its the truth whether you like it or not. Pan africanism is a dead made up African american movement

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#6 Jan 3, 2011
africagenX wrote:
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NO its the truth whether you like it or not. Pan africanism is a dead made up African american movement
Regardless of its conception, its not dead!

Its just dead to you, just as its very alive to me. Now it may not be as thriving as it once was, but I would not dare proclaim expiration on it.

Again, you're misdirected!

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#7 Jan 3, 2011
africagenX wrote:
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NO its the truth whether you like it or not. Pan africanism is a dead made up African american movement
Furthermore, to suggest that we divorce ourselves as diasporians from the interests of our family members in Africa, the Caribbean, S. America, etc. is pure lunacy.

Selfish jackass!
chinyere

Cambridge, MA

#8 Jan 3, 2011
africagenX wrote:
Here is my take on the subject as a african I feel Pan-Africanism is dead and is dead and irrelevant to most africans. It was a movement created by Black americans and other non-Blacks and their Black unity fantasy.
Pan-Africanism was a movement like the civil rights movement; where it lasted for a couple of days and died off.
Most africans only care about success and education for their countries. Now a days most african countries are developing on their own with their own unique cultures.
Is is safe to say that pan-africanism is a dream land for afrocentrist african americans and should be left with them solely, since that movement is based on race. Particularily since race is the culture of african americans not foreign blacks? To me it is I don't hear africans talk about pan-africanism only afrocentrist.
I believe Africa will and will progress through globalization and the signs are showing not a dead movement that most africans and other blacks don't know or care about.
So my question is why do these afrocentrist african americans keep bringing up a movement that was created by them and died with them. Why don't they put that energy in their african american community and leave black caribbeans to progress their own communities and africans to concentrate on their community.
OR ARE THEY TRYING TO CONTROL BLACK PEOPLE WORLDWIDE
I do agree with you that Pan-Africanism is dead, I never heard of a african ever talk about pan africanism but I have heard of only one time a african american talk about pan-africanism, so I don't think many AA bring it up or care, only a few do in my opinion. To tel you the truth though african Americans are not trying to control black people worldwide, even if they are I don't see that happening.
africagenx

Becket, MA

#9 Jan 3, 2011
vampiYAH stabB wrote:
<quoted text>Furthermore, to suggest that we divorce ourselves as diasporians from the interests of our family members in Africa, the Caribbean, S. America, etc. is pure lunacy.
Selfish jackass!
They are not your family you idiot AA and furthermore the caribbeans control their own interest not AA's,
the south americans control their own interest not AAs
the africans control their own interest not AA's
and you guys should control your interest
africagenx

Becket, MA

#10 Jan 3, 2011
chinyere wrote:
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I do agree with you that Pan-Africanism is dead, I never heard of a african ever talk about pan africanism but I have heard of only one time a african american talk about pan-africanism, so I don't think many AA bring it up or care, only a few do in my opinion. To tell you the truth though african Americans are not trying to control black people worldwide, even if they are I don't see that happening.
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#11 Jan 3, 2011
africagenx wrote:
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They are not your family you idiot AA and furthermore the caribbeans control their own interest not AA's,
the south americans control their own interest not AAs
the africans control their own interest not AA's
and you guys should control your interest
The fact that there are people of African descent in these areas proves the lack of control of personal interest.

Pay attention!
africagenX

Becket, MA

#12 Jan 3, 2011
vampiYAH stabB wrote:
<quoted text>The fact that there are people of African descent in these areas proves the lack of control of personal interest.
Pay attention!
I know their are people of african decent in those areas but they have their own communties, culture, and interest not AA's interest.
just because they are black is irrelevant.

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#13 Jan 3, 2011
africagenX wrote:
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I know their are people of african decent in those areas but they have their own communties, culture, and interest not AA's interest.
just because they are black is irrelevant.
I do not agree with that, not in a subjective context anyway.

There are people of African descent in these areas who may be indifferent with the holistic condition for ALL Africans where ever they may be found, but there are those that ARE!

It seems you're just raptured with your own sentement, however we're not all stupid, colonized, white-washed, ni883r minded, slaves such as yourself!

chinyere

Cambridge, MA

#14 Jan 3, 2011
oh people let it go, whether people accept it or not the movement is dead. I never even knew what it meant until recently, even my Nigerian parents never heard of it:
&fe ature=fvw

NEXT..........

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#15 Jan 3, 2011
chinyere wrote:
oh people let it go, whether people accept it or not the movement is dead. I never even knew what it meant until recently, even my Nigerian parents never heard of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =vSYpAD5iipcXX&feature=fvw
NEXT..........
Because your PARENTS are Nigerian does not mean neither of you have cornered the market on ALL things pertaining to the African experience, there or here.

NEXT!
Unique2

Macon, GA

#18 Jan 3, 2011
Pan-Africanism as a movement has never been widely embraced by African-Americans, as evidenced by the fact that the most popular black American leaders have all placed greater emphasis on things domestic.

Even the honorable Elijah Muhammad who was the most promient American black nationalist, suggested that African-Americans seek a seperate nation or territory within the United States rather than Africa.

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Saint Louis, MO

#19 Jan 4, 2011
Pan-Africanism is not dead. But, a lot of Pan-Africaists might as well be dead they are so worthless. It is only now that Pan-Africanism is beginning to mature and come into it's own.

What I think might be dead is the AU. Their failure to extend Qaddafi's term in office clearly showed contempt for the ideal of African Unity. On top of that, they have allowed Christians to gang up on Muslims in Somalia. That is a bad precedcent to say the least. And, it shows the inability or un-willingness of Christians to accept the Islamic reality in Africa. At worse, this could mean that the Christians will simply refuse to accept African Unity. But, their refusal to do so will not stop it.

I think Pan-Africanism is rapidly developing to include Pan-Arabism. When that happens, the Muslim countries will have a basis for Unity without the Christians. And Muslim Unity will include all of the Arab countries. So, do not think think that Christian negativity will stop a show. One monkey never stops a show.
africangenX

Holyoke, MA

#20 Jan 4, 2011
Unique2 wrote:
Pan-Africanism as a movement has never been widely embraced by African-Americans, as evidenced by the fact that the most popular black American leaders have all placed greater emphasis on things domestic.
Even the honorable Elijah Muhammad who was the most promient American black nationalist, suggested that African-Americans seek a seperate nation or territory within the United States rather than Africa.
Cosign
africangenX

Holyoke, MA

#21 Jan 4, 2011
Abdurratln wrote:
Pan-Africanism is not dead. But, a lot of Pan-Africaists might as well be dead they are so worthless. It is only now that Pan-Africanism is beginning to mature and come into it's own.
What I think might be dead is the AU. Their failure to extend Qaddafi's term in office clearly showed contempt for the ideal of African Unity. On top of that, they have allowed Christians to gang up on Muslims in Somalia. That is a bad precedcent to say the least. And, it shows the inability or un-willingness of Christians to accept the Islamic reality in Africa. At worse, this could mean that the Christians will simply refuse to accept African Unity. But, their refusal to do so will not stop it.
I think Pan-Africanism is rapidly developing to include Pan-Arabism. When that happens, the Muslim countries will have a basis for Unity without the Christians. And Muslim Unity will include all of the Arab countries. So, do not think think that Christian negativity will stop a show. One monkey never stops a show.
Pan-Africanism is a myth and philosophy but it is dead now, not because of religion but the fact that what goes on in Ethiopia is different from what goes on in Ghana

To me the AU is the Pan-Africanism of the african continent or africans only. To me the AU is doing ok, they are not perfect but at least it is established and a organization that is relevant not a myth

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#22 Jan 5, 2011
africangenX wrote:
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Pan-Africanism is a myth and philosophy but it is dead now, not because of religion but the fact that what goes on in Ethiopia is different from what goes on in Ghana
To me the AU is the Pan-Africanism of the african continent or africans only. To me the AU is doing ok, they are not perfect but at least it is established and a organization that is relevant not a myth
We have poverty and underdevelopment in Ethiopia just as we have poverty and underdevelopment in Ghana. In the previous stage of the Struggle, the issue was the achievement of political independence from western powers. Now that that has been achieved, the issue is Economic Development. The need for Economic Development is what Unites Africans all over the world. Therefore, our task is to find methods by which to pursue and achieve Economic Development in the most efficient way possible. And, pan-Africanism provides the best way to do this.

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#23 Jan 5, 2011
I found a cool website about Africa it is www.africa.com
check it out

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