the moors were black africans not ara...
motts

Bridgetown, Barbados

#20697 Jan 17, 2014
Over time, an ugly development in the history of the Moors began: The initiation and growth of the aquisition of white slaves as a prevalent aspect of its culture. The trade was began by a a Jewish element which began to buy and sell captured Slavs and Germans as laborers and concubines.

The polygamous tendencies of the Islamic Black Moors encouraged this development and contributed to the lightening of the complexion of the Moorish element over time. It also contributed to a degeneration of values. The Ummayyad dynasty became ripe foe overthrow and in 1031 Christian forces achieved their defeat and brought the dynasty to a close.

The Almoravid Dynasty

The famous era of the Almoravids begins with The Black Muslim leader Ibn Yasin. Originally brought from Mecca, Yasin's initial base of operations was in the area of Senegal in West Africa. He embarked upon an ambitious effort to convert all of the surrounding area to Islam through force.

Over time, the Almoravids (from "Al-Murabitun") conquered a vast area of west and northern Africa. In 1076, they overwhelmed and brought to an end the mighty Empire of Ghana itself . In 1086 AD, Yusuf Ibn Tashibin became aware of events in Spain, where Christians had long been persecuting Arabs and Moors. Yusuf invaded Spain to aid in its liberation. He is unequivocably described in the Moorish work Roudh-el Kartos as a black skinned African. Other matters back home in Africa however prompted him to return before the conquest was complete. He left his army to aid the Spaniards in their battle but was later informed that the local Spanish governers had left the Moors to do most of the fighting.

Yusuf in fury, ordered their replacement with Moorish rulers and there followed a splendid era of African rule which would not end until 1142 AD
motts

Bridgetown, Barbados

#20698 Jan 17, 2014
The Almohade Dynasty

In 1145, the last Moorish dynasty came to power. African accomplishment in the penisular reached its apex. But Christian resolve had strengthened, and as Moorish culture grew more and more passive, Christian forces gained courage and began a campaign which recaptured territories from the blacks over the following centuries.

The Almohade dynasty had deep intellectual concerns and encouraged its thinkers and scholars to engage in great debates and expressions of ideas of both theological and secular nature. It is during the reign of this dynasty that the tower of Seville is constructed.

And it is during this time that Abu-Al-Walid Mohamed ibn Mohamed ibgn Rashd, known to the West as Averroes established a peerless intellectual body of work in the arts and sciences which is revered to this day.
Ummayad savants and scholars initiated another intellectual revolution by ushering in and promoting:

Land reforms in Spain.
Religious freedom.
Support of the arts and sciences.

A rennaissance in knowledge as the wisdom of the ancient cultures was relearned through the works of the Greeks, Hebrews, Chinese, Persians.Translating all into Arabic.
They were the first to trace the curvilinear path of light through the air.(1100)

They achieved advances in chemistry including the invention of gunpopwder.
Discoveries in Astronomy and on the nature of the earth.

The invention of the Astrolabe and the compass.
The medical use of vivisection and dissection.

The Almohade dynasty was to last until 1230 when Christian forces drove the last Moorish elements out of Spain in successive campaigns. But Europe was to benefit imeasurably from the legacy of these Africans for centuries after the expulsion:

Absence of class system, such that any man (regardless of birth stature) could rise to any rank except that of supreme ruler. This was in marked contrast to the Visigothic Christians who were legendry in their cruelty and usery
The creation of hospitals with running water and the widespread construction of baths.

Christian Europe held this rite of bating in contempt for centuries.
Numerous fabulous gardens.
Latrines with running water hundreds of years before the rest of Europe.
Paved streets and street lights.

Numerous bookstores and a highly literate populace.
The Moors also took interior decoration to new heights in elaborate building ideas. This compares with the rest of Europe where most structures were barren, artless hulks without the minimum of utilities even for hygiene.
motts

Bridgetown, Barbados

#20699 Jan 17, 2014
Agriculture

The Moors of Al Andalu (Spain) introduced advanced numerous crops and methods of soil productivity including irrigation, crop rotation and the use of manure. After harvesting, Moorish preservation and drying know-how meant that foods could endure and be edible for several years.

Universities

There were numerous schools and places of learning in Moorish Al-Andalus (Spain).

Begining with the Univerity of Cordoba, other great institutions were built in Seville, Valencia, Mallarga and Granada.

Like the ancient Greeks under the Egyptians , several of the most prominent European Catholic scholars studied under the African Moors in their institutions in Spain. The Moors translated all great works they could lay their hands on from the ancients into Arabic. This included the knowledge of Egypt, Kush, India, China and the Greece.

Western historians point to the Greek component of these documents and attempt to paint the Moors as merely borrowers of Greek intellectual culture. This ignores the fact that Greek knowledge comes directly from Ancient Egypt and that there is convincing evidence that the Moors already possesed similar knowledge of their own from their homelands.

But this was not only limited to higher education. The Moors promoted literacy and the advancement of the general population. Schools were everywhere, many of them free of charge.
motts

Bridgetown, Barbados

#20700 Jan 17, 2014
Medicine

Again, far in advance of Western Europe, Moorish physicians were specially trained and highly regulated. They practiced surgery and cauterization and understood the importance of cleanliness in the operating environment.

Jose Pimienta Bey notes in Golden Age of the Moor (pg 211):

"Europeans offered no competition with Moorish advances in pathology, aetiology (study of diseases), therapeutics, surgery and pharmacology. Texts were written by Moorish physicians describing surgical technique and instruments that were used; doctors specialized in pediatrics, obstetrics, opthalmology, and in the treatment of hernias and tumors. Imamuddin tells us that Moorish scientists were even importing monkey skeletons from Africa for use in dissection when conditions prevented the use of cadavers."

For the Andalusan Moor, scholarly endeavor was considered devine. The more one knew of one's self and one's World, the more one was sup[posed to know of one's Creator.

The ancient Kemetic creed "Know Thyself" was very much the creed of Andalus..........Rulers such as the Caliph Abd al-Rahman III, spent almost one-third of the state's income on education. At a time when most Christan monarchs could not even write their own names, the Caliphs of Moorish Spain were often scholars.

The works of a number of Moorish savants were revered, translated and became required texts in the universities which later developed in Europe. These include Generalities on Medicine by Averroes, Solitary Regime by Avempace, Primus Canonis by Avicenna and Al-Tasrif, by Abulcasis, which became the predominant university medical text for Europe's physicians.

Science

It was the Moorish chemists such as Jabir who discovered nitric, nitro-muriatric and sulphuric acid. They were well versed in the science well before Europe.

Jose Pimienta-Bey notes the proximity of the founding dates of the major European universities to the translations of Moorish works by rulers such as Alfonso X of Spain. These centres of learning relied primarilly on Moorish texts for centuries

Ish Tov
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Since: Sep 13

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#20701 Jan 17, 2014
motts wrote:
WHAT THE MOORS TAUGHT THE EUROPEANS
Medieval Europe Before The Advent of The Black Moors of Africa
Before the Advent of the Black Moors of Africa who ruled parts of Spain for 700 years there was Medieval Europe a classic rat hole. Until the Blacks came in from Africa and cleaned it up.
The Black Moors of Africa gave the Europeans, African sciences (now falsely termed as western science), African commerce, African architecture, African culture, African governance, African libraries and African hygiene.
The stench of medieval Europe still echoes today
22.01.2008
People normally associate different epochs with different smells. The Middle Ages smell of sewage and decaying bodies. German writer Patrick Suskind, the author of a well-known novel “Perfume: The Story of a Murderer,” wrote in his book that the stench of European cities in the late Middle Ages period was unbearable. His work conveys the terrible smell of human faeces and urine in the streets, decaying wood and rat dung, spoiled coal and animal fat, mouldy dust and chamber pots.
Stench used to be an inseparable part of all human activities, constructive or destructive. The Queen of Spain Isabel of Castle (the end of the 15th century) confessed that she had taken a bath only twice in a lifetime – when born and married. A daughter of one of French kings died of lice. Dysentery and scab caused fatal terminations to Popes Clement V and Clement VII correspondingly. Duke Norfolk neglected bathing for religious reasons. As a result of such disregard numerous abscesses dotted his body.
A billet-doux sent by the inveterate Don Juan Henry of Navarre to his sweetheart Gabrielle d’ Estrées became an anecdote. Its contents conveyed the following meaning:“Do not wash yourself, my sweetheart, I’ll visit you in three weeks”. The king himself took a bath only thrice in a lifetime, twice coercively.
Except that the Moors who conquered Iberia weren't black; they were Berbers of Eurasian type. This is well proven.

Bathing stopped in Europe because of Christianity. Prior to Christianization, bathing was common.

The Moors were parasitic pirates.

Ish Tov
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Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#20702 Jan 17, 2014
motts wrote:
Origin and Race of The Moors
The Black scholar Wayne Chandler traces the origin of the people called the Moors to an African people known as the Garamante. This civilization stood along important trading routes in the Sahara and existed contemporaneously with other great African civilizations including Egypt of the pre-Christian era.
The Moors must be distinguished from the Berbers who were a mixed race people in North Africa resulting from the intermarriage between caucasian Libyans and indigenous Africans. Black Africans had beem called Maures ('dark') by the Greeks in antiquity and no distinction had been made between The Moorish tribes which would later invade Spain and their Black African kin.
There was also to be an Arab component to these peoples and in order for this to be put in context, the racial composition of Arabia in antiquity must be understood. Much of the Arabian peninsular had originally been populated by Blacks. The area was a colony of the kingdom of Kush. Southern Arabia, in particular, remained black for a considerable period as the Greeks themselves attest.
With the coming of Islam, interaction between Moors and Arabs increased but research into the manuscripts and documents of medieval Europe emphatically demonstrates that the prevailing image of the Mooor - for the period - concerned was that of the black skinned, woolly haired African.
The image occurs repeatedly in such famed works as Las Cantigas de Santa Maria , a 13th century manuscript of Moorish musical works translated by Spain's King Alfonso X (El Sabio), one of the best known of Europe's acquirers of Moorish texts. Numerous works such as these leave no doubt as to what race of people the term "Moor" referred to in medieval Europe.
Alfonso set up centres in cities such as Toledo for the express purpose of acquiring and translating these texts. There is no question that it was not until centuries later that the distinctions became blurred and the term Moor began to be used for various other ethnic groups as well.
Wrong. Moors were originally anyone in the Maghreb. Others who came in due to Islam, Arabs and black W Africans, then were also called Moors.

Garamantes? They were mixed, African with Berber. The Berbers were Eurasians in the time of the Garamantes and during the Moorish Empire in the west.

You're very confused, boy.
A Child Of AHAYAH

Absecon, NJ

#20703 Jan 17, 2014
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
Except that the Moors who conquered Iberia weren't black; they were Berbers of Eurasian type. This is well proven.
Bathing stopped in Europe because of Christianity. Prior to Christianization, bathing was common.
The Moors were parasitic pirates.
This is for All The Trolls and Their Accomplices !!! Lol , History speaks on behalf of The Truth!!! Not what those of you that distort the Truth say, but the Factual Truth. You are a part of The Historical whitewashing that has been perpetuated against our African History for ages; Lol, Matthews 3:7 ; Rev. 2:9 and 3:9 are calling your names AGAIN ; resistance to the TRUTH IS FUTILE !!!
A Child Of AHAYAH

New York, NY

#20704 Jan 17, 2014
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong. Moors were originally anyone in the Maghreb. Others who came in due to Islam, Arabs and black W Africans, then were also called Moors.
Garamantes? They were mixed, African with Berber. The Berbers were Eurasians in the time of the Garamantes and during the Moorish Empire in the west.
You're very confused, boy.
This is for All The Trolls and Their Accomplices !!! Lol , History speaks on behalf of The Truth!!! Not what those of you that distort the Truth say, but the Factual Truth. You are a part of The Historical whitewashing that has been perpetuated against our African History for ages; Lol, Matthews 3:7 ; Rev. 2:9 and 3:9 are calling your names AGAIN ; resistance to the TRUTH IS FUTILE !!!
motts

Bridgetown, Barbados

#20705 Jan 17, 2014
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong. Moors were originally anyone in the Maghreb. Others who came in due to Islam, Arabs and black W Africans, then were also called Moors.
Garamantes? They were mixed, African with Berber. The Berbers were Eurasians in the time of the Garamantes and during the Moorish Empire in the west.
You're very confused, boy.
You need to stop albinizing history BOY.

THE MOORS WERE BLACK

THE MOORS WHO CONQUERED SPAIN WERE BLACK

BLACKS ARE INDIGENOUS TO NORTH AFRICA

WHATCHAGONNADO?? BOY!

Level 1

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#20706 Jan 17, 2014
this forum is crazy

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#20707 Jan 17, 2014
motts wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to stop albinizing history BOY.
THE MOORS WERE BLACK
THE MOORS WHO CONQUERED SPAIN WERE BLACK
BLACKS ARE INDIGENOUS TO NORTH AFRICA
WHATCHAGONNADO?? BOY!
You have failed to address the evidence confirming the contrary.

And so... pffffffft.

you have nothing.
A Child Of AHAYAH

San Francisco, CA

#20708 Jan 17, 2014
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
You have failed to address the evidence confirming the contrary.
And so... pffffffft.
you have nothing.
This is for All The Trolls and Their Accomplices !!! Lol , History speaks on behalf of The Truth!!! Not what those of you that distort the Truth say, but the Factual Truth. You are a part of The Historical whitewashing that has been perpetuated against our African History for ages; Lol, Matthews 3:7 ; Rev. 2:9 and 3:9 are calling your names AGAIN ; resistance to the TRUTH IS FUTILE !!!
Bigsmoke

Walton, UK

#20709 Jan 17, 2014
So this is still ongoing? Remarkable...

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#20710 Jan 17, 2014
A Child Of AHAYAH wrote:
<quoted text> This is for All The Trolls and Their Accomplices !!! Lol , History speaks on behalf of The Truth!!! Not what those of you that distort the Truth say, but the Factual Truth. You are a part of The Historical whitewashing that has been perpetuated against our African History for ages; Lol, Matthews 3:7 ; Rev. 2:9 and 3:9 are calling your names AGAIN ; resistance to the TRUTH IS FUTILE !!!
You're a cult nutcase who knows nothing about real science or history.
A Child Of AHAYAH

New York, NY

#20711 Jan 17, 2014
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a cult nutcase who knows nothing about real science or history.
This is a summation of you and your troll friends?????This is for All The Trolls and Their Accomplices !!! Lol , History speaks on behalf of The Truth!!! Not what those of you that distort the Truth say, but the Factual Truth. You are a part of The Historical whitewashing that has been perpetuated against our African History for ages; Lol, Matthews 3:7 ; Rev. 2:9 and 3:9 are calling your names AGAIN ; resistance to the TRUTH IS FUTILE !!!

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#20712 Jan 17, 2014
A Child Of AHAYAH wrote:
<quoted text> This is a summation of you and your troll friends?????This is for All The Trolls and Their Accomplices !!! Lol , History speaks on behalf of The Truth!!! Not what those of you that distort the Truth say, but the Factual Truth. You are a part of The Historical whitewashing that has been perpetuated against our African History for ages; Lol, Matthews 3:7 ; Rev. 2:9 and 3:9 are calling your names AGAIN ; resistance to the TRUTH IS FUTILE !!!
You're a cult nutcase who knows nothing about real science or history.
kkds

San Jose, CA

#20714 Jan 17, 2014
motts wrote:
Medicine
Again, far in advance of Western Europe, Moorish physicians were specially trained and highly regulated. They practiced surgery and cauterization and understood the importance of cleanliness in the operating environment.
Jose Pimienta Bey notes in Golden Age of the Moor (pg 211):
"Europeans offered no competition with Moorish advances in pathology, aetiology (study of diseases), therapeutics, surgery and pharmacology. Texts were written by Moorish physicians describing surgical technique and instruments that were used; doctors specialized in pediatrics, obstetrics, opthalmology, and in the treatment of hernias and tumors. Imamuddin tells us that Moorish scientists were even importing monkey skeletons from Africa for use in dissection when conditions prevented the use of cadavers."
For the Andalusan Moor, scholarly endeavor was considered devine. The more one knew of one's self and one's World, the more one was sup[posed to know of one's Creator.
The ancient Kemetic creed "Know Thyself" was very much the creed of Andalus..........Rulers such as the Caliph Abd al-Rahman III, spent almost one-third of the state's income on education. At a time when most Christan monarchs could not even write their own names, the Caliphs of Moorish Spain were often scholars.
The works of a number of Moorish savants were revered, translated and became required texts in the universities which later developed in Europe. These include Generalities on Medicine by Averroes, Solitary Regime by Avempace, Primus Canonis by Avicenna and Al-Tasrif, by Abulcasis, which became the predominant university medical text for Europe's physicians.
Science
It was the Moorish chemists such as Jabir who discovered nitric, nitro-muriatric and sulphuric acid. They were well versed in the science well before Europe.
Jose Pimienta-Bey notes the proximity of the founding dates of the major European universities to the translations of Moorish works by rulers such as Alfonso X of Spain. These centres of learning relied primarilly on Moorish texts for centuries
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yea and you negros were never a part of it being confined to the steaming jungles of sub sahara Africa,poor delusional crackhead
kkds

San Jose, CA

#20715 Jan 17, 2014
denita d wrote:
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT THE ORGIN OF THE MOORS,FROM MY READINGS I HAVE FOUND THAT THEY WERE BLACK AFRICANS NOT ARAB,WHEN THEY WENT TO SPAIN THET TOOK ON WHITE SLAVES AND REPRODUCED WITH THEM,BUT THE ORIGINAL MOORS WERE NOT ARAB,THESE MEN WERE ALSO MUSLIM AS WELL,AND RULED OVER THAT COUNTRY FOR ALMOST 900 YEARS,WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THIS...LETS TALK.
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hahahahahahahaha another deluded negro
Jonah

Cairnlea, Australia

#20716 Jan 17, 2014
Yes most moors were black... The black slave population was over 50% and the arab masters made up a lot less
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#20717 Jan 17, 2014
motts wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to stop albinizing history BOY.
THE MOORS WERE BLACK
THE MOORS WHO CONQUERED SPAIN WERE BLACK
BLACKS ARE INDIGENOUS TO NORTH AFRICA
WHATCHAGONNADO?? BOY!
THE MOORS WERE MAJORITY WHITE DUMBO and the descendants of the Moors ARE STILL WHITE!
VERY INDIGENOUS WHITE MOORS OF NORTH AFRICA:
www.youtube.com/watch...
Afronazis think people change colour suddenly!

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