the moors were black africans not ara...
motts

UK

#17844 Oct 6, 2013
BRITISH MUSEUM MOOR EXHIBITION.

WHERE ARE THE CAUCASIAN MOORS??

http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highligh...

http://www2.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/view... *&img=3

http://www2.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/view... *&img=0

http://metmuseum.org/Collections/search-the-c...

http://metmuseum.org/collections/search-the-c...

http://metmuseum.org/collections/search-the-c...

A MOOR ON EXHIBIT AT THE PHILADELPHIA NUSEUM OF ART.

The EURONUT trolls will say the museum is Afrocentric LOL!

http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/perman...

This is one of my favourites.

AN EXHIBIT ON DISPLAY IN MUNICH, GERMANY.

http://www.muenchner-stadtmuseum.de/en/muench...

ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!

.
motts

UK

#17845 Oct 6, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not a fact, boy.
30,000 years ago the Maghreb was uninhabited when the Eurasians arrived. And that region remained predominantly Eurasian until today.
Nothing you can do about FACTS, boy!
Is that what you tell your Black son at bedtime? LOL!
motts

UK

#17846 Oct 6, 2013
THE SPANISH KNOW WHAT MOORS LOOKED LIKE… THEY SHOULD AFTER 700 YEARS OF OCCUPATION!!

HOW THE BLACK MOORS CONQUERED, CIVILISED AND EDUCATED SPAIN……and you think they would be grateful….well, kind of.

http://ixwa.hubpages.com/hub/The-History-And-... #

THE MOORS EVEN INFLUENCED SPANISH CUISINE.

Moros_y_Cristianos or Moors and Christians.
AKA.. BLACK BEANS and WHITE RICE!!

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres...

One must remember the Moors were very gentle with the Spanish women who were very submissive to their masters. I in no way condone slavery but the truth has to be told.

The Spanish should be very grateful to the Moors for educating them, building all those bath houses and for their mixed heritage......

Do you agree Barros or Ish Tov?

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#17847 Oct 6, 2013
Yet, the real evidence, the archaeological, genetic and historical evidence, is ignored by you cultist Afronazis.

Yes, the DNA left in Spain by the Moors is nearly all Eurasian.

And, you multiple doofuses, I lived in Spain and didn't see people who looked black at all, except for immigrants from Equatorial Guinea. Now among Puerto Ricans there are plenty of people who are at least partly black, but in spain? No. Black = African, ok.

As opposed to Eurasians like the Berbers/Moors.
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#17848 Oct 6, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not a fact, boy.
30,000 years ago the Maghreb was uninhabited when the Eurasians arrived. And that region remained predominantly Eurasian until today.
Nothing you can do about FACTS, boy!
We've presented the data over & over again..... ALL of African began UNMIXED. THAT means UNMIXED ORIGINAL Africans. That is the FACT.... That is what stands here. NO African scholar will refute it.

CASE CLOSED!!!
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#17849 Oct 6, 2013
motts wrote:
BRITISH MUSEUM MOOR EXHIBITION.
WHERE ARE THE CAUCASIAN MOORS??
http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highligh...
http://www2.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/view... *&img=3
http://www2.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/view... *&img=0
http://metmuseum.org/Collections/search-the-c...
http://metmuseum.org/collections/search-the-c...
http://metmuseum.org/collections/search-the-c...
A MOOR ON EXHIBIT AT THE PHILADELPHIA NUSEUM OF ART.
The EURONUT trolls will say the museum is Afrocentric LOL!
http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/perman...
This is one of my favourites.
AN EXHIBIT ON DISPLAY IN MUNICH, GERMANY.
http://www.muenchner-stadtmuseum.de/en/muench...
ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!
.
THANKS FOR THE IRREFUTABLE LINKED data

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#17850 Oct 6, 2013
motts wrote:
THE SPANISH KNOW WHAT MOORS LOOKED LIKE… THEY SHOULD AFTER 700 YEARS OF OCCUPATION!!
HOW THE BLACK MOORS CONQUERED, CIVILISED AND EDUCATED SPAIN……and you think they would be grateful….well, kind of.
http://ixwa.hubpages.com/hub/The-History-And-... #
THE MOORS EVEN INFLUENCED SPANISH CUISINE.
Moros_y_Cristianos or Moors and Christians.
AKA.. BLACK BEANS and WHITE RICE!!
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres...
One must remember the Moors were very gentle with the Spanish women who were very submissive to their masters. I in no way condone slavery but the truth has to be told.
The Spanish should be very grateful to the Moors for educating them, building all those bath houses and for their mixed heritage......
Do you agree Barros or Ish Tov?
The Romans had built a bath house in every Iberian town.

The Spanish of today have only a very small % of DNA from Moors, and it is mostly of Eurasian type, as are the Moors themselves, and as they have been for 30,000 years, as is proven by all the evidence you lying Afronazi cultists ignore, demonstrating thereby your utter lack of intellectual integrity or real knowledge.

The Spanish are grateful for the heroic warriors who liberated their country from the yoke of islamoimperialism. Reparations are still owed to Spain, Portugal, Italy and others for the damage done by Islamoterrorists for centuries.

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#17851 Oct 6, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
We've presented the data over & over again..... ALL of African began UNMIXED. THAT means UNMIXED ORIGINAL Africans. That is the FACT.... That is what stands here. NO African scholar will refute it.
CASE CLOSED!!!
No, you present your dogma that Africa is unmixed and was forever, but you are in contradiction of the facts. You cannot undo the Eurasian remains and DNA in the Maghreb for 30,000 years. You cannot unpaint the Egyptian depictions of Berbers as Eurasians. You cannot ignore the population of the Maghreb which has been predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years.

You can only prevaricate, ignore and lie.

YOUR case is closed, boy!
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#17852 Oct 6, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
The Romans had built a bath house in every Iberian town.
LINK IT ! until then ....Moors built the bath houses.
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#17853 Oct 6, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you present your dogma that Africa is unmixed and was forever, but you are in contradiction of the facts.
LINK IT ! until then....Kemet STARTED OFF AFRICAN. CASE CLOSED. next
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#17854 Oct 6, 2013
motts wrote:
THE SPANISH KNOW WHAT MOORS LOOKED LIKE… THEY SHOULD AFTER 700 YEARS OF OCCUPATION!!
HOW THE BLACK MOORS CONQUERED, CIVILISED AND EDUCATED SPAIN……and you think they would be grateful….well, kind of.
http://ixwa.hubpages.com/hub/The-History-And-... #
THE MOORS EVEN INFLUENCED SPANISH CUISINE.
Moros_y_Cristianos or Moors and Christians.
AKA.. BLACK BEANS and WHITE RICE!!
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres...
One must remember the Moors were very gentle with the Spanish women who were very submissive to their masters. I in no way condone slavery but the truth has to be told.
The Spanish should be very grateful to the Moors for educating them, building all those bath houses and for their mixed heritage......
Do you agree Barros or Ish Tov?
I'll ANSWER FOR THE TROLL.....YES he agrees 100%, cuz he has NO LINKS that say otherwise.

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#17855 Oct 6, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
LINK IT ! until then ....Moors built the bath houses.
Until you provide evidence to the contrary, boy. There was a bath house in every Roman town throughout the Empire, boy. That is basic knowledge about Rome and you don't know that? LOL!! You f'ing historical illiterate! Boy!

Don't you wish you hadn't dropped out?

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#17856 Oct 6, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll ANSWER FOR THE TROLL.....YES he agrees 100%, cuz he has NO LINKS that say otherwise.
Again, I need no links, you need only read ANY information on the Moslem world of the time, and see that all their intellectual property was taken from conquered peoples. The books brought into Iberia were mostly Greek, lol.

And the scholars were Jews and Persians.

LOL... again you don't even know what is common knowledge to educated folks... confirming that, yes, you are a dropout and a dolt.

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#17857 Oct 6, 2013
Africa unmixed? Not even originally, since obviously Homo heidelbergensis persisted after sapiens had evolved in the northeast, and W-Central Africans mixed with them, and so were mixed long ago...

Eurasians in the Maghreb with neandertalensis admixture, heidelbergensis hybrids in W-Central Africa, Eurasians seeping in all the time via Yemen and the Sinai, and some by the Mediterranean islands and Iberia...

Unmixed?

You're mixed of 3 species, Afronazis, so just what is it that is REALLY bothering you?

“DANGER!!”

Level 8

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#17858 Oct 6, 2013
CuloHecho wrote:
Lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies
Denial, denial, denial, denial, denial, denial
Stop being in denial about the blackness of the original, that is, UNMIXED Berbers, they look no different than their genetic brothers from the Horn of Africa located in East Africa, south of the Sahara.

http://www.genebase.com/learning/article/2

Learn about Y-DNA Haplogroup E
Learning Center» Paternal Ancestry (Y-DNA)» Y-DNA Haplogroups (SNPs)» Learn about Y-DNA Haplogroup E
The origin of the Haplogroup E is most likely in East Africa, near Ethiopia.
Your only reference is merely an add for a DNA testing entity that is merely trying to gather as many Congoid-American customers as possible.

•••

There is a majority of legitimate up-to-date anthropologists who do not even agree that there is sufficient anthropological evidence to say that Y-Haplogroup 'E' had its origin in Africa:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_DE_%2...

"The models supporting an African origin or an Asian origin of the YAP+ insertion both required the extinction of the ancestral YAP chromosome to explain the current distribution of the YAP+ polymorphism. Paragroup DE* possesses neither the mutations that define haplogroup D or haplogroup E. If paragroup DE* was found in one location but not the other, it would boost one theory of the other.[16] Haplogroup DE* has recently been found in Nigeria,[6] Guinea-Bissau[7] and also in Tibet.[8] The phylogenetic relationship of three DE* sequences has yet to be determined, but it is known that the Guinea Bissau sequences differ from the Nigerian sequences by at least one mutation.[7] Weale et al. state that the discovery of DE* among Nigerians pushes back the date for the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) of African YAP chromosomes. This, in his view, has the effect of reducing the time window through which a possible back migration from Asia to Africa could occur.[6]

Chandrasekhar et al. 2007, have argued for the Asian origin of the YAP+. They state,

The presence of the YAP insertion in Northeast Indian tribes and Andaman Islanders with haplogroup D suggests that some of the M168 chromosomes gave rise to the YAP insertion and M174 mutation in South Asia

They also argue that YAP+ migrated back to Africa with other Eurasian haplogroups. These include Haplogroup R1b1*(18-23kya), which has been observed with especially high frequency among the members of some peoples in northern Cameroon, and Haplogroup T (25-30kya), which has been observed in low frequencies in Africa. Haplogroup E at 50kya is considerably older than these haplogroups and has been observed at frequencies of 80-92% in Africa.

In a press release concerning a study by Karafet et al.(2008), Michael Hammer, revised the dates for the origin Haplogroup DE from 55,000 years ago to 65,000 years ago. For haplogroup E, Hammer revised the dates from 31,000 years ago to 50,000 years ago. Hammer is also quoted as saying “The age of haplogroup DE is about 65,000 years, just a bit younger than the other major lineage to leave Africa, which is assumed to be about 70,000 years old,” in which he implies that haplogroup DE left Africa along with Haplogroup CF.[17]

Level 8

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#17859 Oct 6, 2013
denita d wrote:
After the moors were baned from spain,they were sent to west africa,from there some of them were sold in to slavery to the united states of america.
i don't think many 'moors' meaning those responsible for the muslim domination of southern europe ended up in WA and on the slave ships.

but the original moors and berbers were for the most part black africans who mixed with eurasians.

“DANGER!!”

Level 8

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#17860 Oct 6, 2013
trollfool wrote:
<quoted text>
THANKS FOR THE IRREFUTABLE LINKED data
Nicknacks don't prove a shíttin' thing, FÓÓL,

and YOU have yet to proffer even one single solitary legitimate reference that you haven't misrepresented, misinterpreted, and completely misunderstood.
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#17861 Oct 6, 2013
motts wrote:
BRITISH MUSEUM MOOR EXHIBITION.
WHERE ARE THE CAUCASIAN MOORS??
http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highligh...
http://www2.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/view... *&img=3
http://www2.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/view... *&img=0
http://metmuseum.org/Collections/search-the-c...
http://metmuseum.org/collections/search-the-c...
http://metmuseum.org/collections/search-the-c...
A MOOR ON EXHIBIT AT THE PHILADELPHIA NUSEUM OF ART.
The EURONUT trolls will say the museum is Afrocentric LOL!
http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/perman...
This is one of my favourites.
AN EXHIBIT ON DISPLAY IN MUNICH, GERMANY.
http://www.muenchner-stadtmuseum.de/en/muench...
ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!
.
Most of the Moors look like Arabs to me and a lot of white cherubs who Im sure were not Moors LOL
LION

Charlotte, NC

#17862 Oct 6, 2013
Early writers only wrote of black negro moors or mulatto moors (tawny moors).
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#17863 Oct 6, 2013
motts wrote:
THE SPANISH KNOW WHAT MOORS LOOKED LIKE… THEY SHOULD AFTER 700 YEARS OF OCCUPATION!!
HOW THE BLACK MOORS CONQUERED, CIVILISED AND EDUCATED SPAIN……and you think they would be grateful….well, kind of.
http://ixwa.hubpages.com/hub/The-History-And-... #
THE MOORS EVEN INFLUENCED SPANISH CUISINE.
Moros_y_Cristianos or Moors and Christians.
AKA.. BLACK BEANS and WHITE RICE!!
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres...
One must remember the Moors were very gentle with the Spanish women who were very submissive to their masters. I in no way condone slavery but the truth has to be told.
The Spanish should be very grateful to the Moors for educating them, building all those bath houses and for their mixed heritage......
Do you agree Barros or Ish Tov?
WHO THE MOORS REALLY WERE:
www.mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2...
Oh rubbish Muslims are the worse abusers of women. What a load of Afronazi cr*p! The real story is IN THE DNA! Spanish people have 2% E1b1a DNA which proves THE MOORS WERE NEVER BLACK AFRICANS DUMMMMMMMY!!!!!!!!!!

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