the moors were black africans not ara...
motts

UK

#17767 Oct 4, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
Grasp this, Afronazis:
There is no "black race".
There is no "white race".
Get it? Get it.
There are Black people and White people. Ask the Spanish, most of them are a by-product of both. Get it? Get it!
kahkem

Lynnwood, WA

#17772 Oct 4, 2013
Curious Me wrote:
<quoted text>
You're full of shít, YOU PEA-BRAINED MØRØN.
The Tuareg are only very remotely associated with the 'E-M78'Y-Hg Beja, FÓÓL.
The REAL Berbers of Maghribíya may related to the Saharan Tuareg but they are NOT AT ALL the same and the REAL ORIGINAL BERBERS OF MAGHRIBÍYA are not at all related or associated with ANY Beja, shít for brains áss hóle.
Furthermore, the Ethiopian Semites are in no way older than than the 'J1' & 'J2' Israelis and the Ethiopian Semitic language is in no way older than ANY Middle Eastern Semitic language, but since YOU brought it up then the burden of proof lies solely on YOUR worthless ignorant ineducable áss.
how many differnt account are you going to make to to tell me who i am dumb monkey fake jew troll of course tuareg are only remotly related to beja but they are EVEN MORE REMOTELY related to a west afican ape who falls into a different subclade of the main E-P2 haplogroup which later split into E-V38 and E-M215 and you SHOULD know if you were not such a retarded APE that ALL BANTU speaking groups in western central southern AND eatern africa EXCLUDING the HORN OF AFRICA all carry the E-V38 and its VARIOUS SUBCLADES due to their agricultural expansion from west africa and they still have similar cultures and phsycal traits which ties them together such has having bigger lips flatter nose and being phsycaily big which are NOT traits accociated with ETHIOPIANS SOMALIS or ANY afro-asiataic people in north africa who ALL carry the E-M215 haplogroup and its VERY YOUNG and RECENT subclades the OLDEST one being E-V68 and its major subclade E-M78 which has NOTHING to do with the rest of africa and only the nile region, the middle east, southern europe and a back migration into the horn of africa. Also there is NO genetic distiction between BERBERS and TUAREGS and there is no such this as fake berbers you are the one with a shitty brain for saying that. ALL north AFRICANS other than egyptians and libyans are dominated by the E-M81 subclade which is MUCH YOUNGER than any of the E-M215 subclades other than the jewish E-M123 and BOTH are culturally tied with not agricultural communities of the middle east and north africa BUT the pastoralist community of eastern africa who carry the original E-M215 haplogroup the birth giver of ALL afro-asiatic cultures. That is why tuaregs until this day are pastoralists, cattle and camle herders and traders which were all cultures that took place in eastern and the horn of africa long before reaching the maghreb. This makes tuaregs and berbers ironically even more african than their egyptian and libyan counterparts who are heavily intermixed with the E-M78 middle eastern subclades. You might have been right about one thing and that is that ethiopians are not the oldest semitic speaking group but the oldest non semitic tribe of ethiopia the oromo are indeed the oldest afro-asiatic language speaking people. Other tribes in ethiopia have heavy north african and arab dna due to a number of back migrations.
" Arredi et al. 2004 believe the pattern of distribution and variance to be consistent with the hypothesis of a post Paleolithic "demic diffusion" from the East. The ancestral lineage of E-M81 in their hypothesis could have been linked with the spread of Neolithic food-producing technologies from the Fertile Crescent via the Nile, although pastoralism rather than agriculture. E-M81 may also have been carried into its currently most common region together with a form of proto-Afroasiatic. On the basis of these possible links, the men who brought E-M81 into northwestern Africa may therefore have come from Asia, or they may represent a "local contribution to the North African Neolithic transition". But there is no autochthonous presence of E-M81 in the Near East, indicating that M81 most likely emerged from its parent clade M35 either in [North Africa, or possibly as far south as the Horn of Africa.[15]"
kahkem

Lynnwood, WA

#17773 Oct 4, 2013
Curious Me wrote:
<quoted text>
You're full of shít, YOU PEA-BRAINED MØRØN.
The Tuareg are only very remotely associated with the 'E-M78'Y-Hg Beja, FÓÓL.
The REAL Berbers of Maghribíya may related to the Saharan Tuareg but they are NOT AT ALL the same and the REAL ORIGINAL BERBERS OF MAGHRIBÍYA are not at all related or associated with ANY Beja, shít for brains áss hóle.
Furthermore, the Ethiopian Semites are in no way older than than the 'J1' & 'J2' Israelis and the Ethiopian Semitic language is in no way older than ANY Middle Eastern Semitic language, but since YOU brought it up then the burden of proof lies solely on YOUR worthless ignorant ineducable áss.
how many differnt account are you going to make to to tell me who i am dumb monkey fake jew troll of course tuareg are only remotly related to beja but they are EVEN MORE REMOTELY related to a west afican ape who falls into a different subclade of the main E-P2 haplogroup which later split into E-V38 and E-M215 and you SHOULD know if you were not such a retarded APE that ALL BANTU speaking groups in western central southern AND eatern africa EXCLUDING the HORN OF AFRICA all carry the E-V38 and its VARIOUS SUBCLADES due to their agricultural expansion from west africa and they still have similar cultures and phsycal traits which ties them together such has having bigger lips flatter nose and being phsycaily big which are NOT traits accociated with ETHIOPIANS SOMALIS or ANY afro-asiataic people in north africa who ALL carry the E-M215 haplogroup and its VERY YOUNG and RECENT subclades the OLDEST one being E-V68 and its major subclade E-M78 which has NOTHING to do with the rest of africa and only the nile region, the middle east, southern europe and a back migration into the horn of africa. Also there is NO genetic distiction between BERBERS and TUAREGS and there is no such this as fake berbers you are the one with a shitty brain for saying that. ALL north AFRICANS other than egyptians and libyans are dominated by the E-M81 subclade which is MUCH YOUNGER than any of the E-M215 subclades other than the jewish E-M123 and BOTH are culturally tied with not agricultural communities of the middle east and north africa BUT the pastoralist community of eastern africa who carry the original E-M215 haplogroup the birth giver of ALL afro-asiatic cultures. That is why tuaregs until this day are pastoralists, cattle and camel herders and traders which were all cultures that took place in eastern and the horn of africa long before reaching the maghreb. This makes tuaregs and berbers ironically even more african than their egyptian and libyan counterparts who are heavily intermixed with the E-M78 middle eastern subclades. You might have been right about one thing and that is that ethiopians are not the oldest semitic speaking group but the oldest non semitic tribe of ethiopia the oromo are indeed the oldest afro-asiatic language speaking people. Other tribes in ethiopia have heavy north african and arab dna due to a number of back migrations.
" Arredi et al. 2004 believe the pattern of distribution and variance to be consistent with the hypothesis of a post Paleolithic "demic diffusion" from the East. The ancestral lineage of E-M81 in their hypothesis could have been linked with the spread of Neolithic food-producing technologies from the Fertile Crescent via the Nile, although pastoralism rather than agriculture. E-M81 may also have been carried into its currently most common region together with a form of proto-Afroasiatic. On the basis of these possible links, the men who brought E-M81 into northwestern Africa may therefore have come from Asia, or they may represent a "local contribution to the North African Neolithic transition". But there is no autochthonous presence of E-M81 in the Near East, indicating that M81 most likely emerged from its parent clade M35 either in [North Africa, or possibly as far south as the Horn of Africa.[15]"
kahkem

Lynnwood, WA

#17774 Oct 4, 2013
* This is a reply to Curious Me (negro troll) since for SOME REASON TOPIX won't let be reply to it.

Of course tuareg are only remotely related to beja but they are EVEN MORE REMOTELY related to a west afican ape who falls into a different subclade of the main E-P2 haplogroup which later split into E-V38 and E-M215 and you SHOULD know if you were not such a retarded APE that ALL BANTU speaking groups in western central southern AND eatern africa EXCLUDING the HORN OF AFRICA all carry the E-V38 and its VARIOUS SUBCLADES due to their agricultural expansion from west africa and they still have similar cultures and phsycal traits which ties them together such has having bigger lips flatter nose and being phsycaily big which are NOT traits accociated with ETHIOPIANS SOMALIS or ANY afro-asiataic people in north africa who ALL carry the E-M215 haplogroup and its VERY YOUNG and RECENT subclades the OLDEST one being E-V68 and its major subclade E-M78 which has NOTHING to do with the rest of africa and only the nile region, the middle east, southern europe and a back migration into the horn of africa. Also there is NO genetic distiction between BERBERS and TUAREGS and there is no such this as fake berbers you are the one with a shitty brain for saying that. ALL north AFRICANS other than egyptians and libyans are dominated by the E-M81 subclade which is MUCH YOUNGER than any of the E-M215 subclades other than the jewish E-M123 and BOTH are culturally tied with not agricultural communities of the middle east and north africa BUT the pastoralist community of eastern africa who carry the original E-M215 haplogroup the birth giver of ALL afro-asiatic cultures. That is why tuaregs until this day are pastoralists, cattle and camel herders and traders which were all cultures that took place in eastern and the horn of africa long before reaching the maghreb. This makes tuaregs and berbers ironically even more african than their egyptian and libyan counterparts who are heavily intermixed with the E-M78 middle eastern subclades. You might have been right about one thing and that is that ethiopians are not the oldest semitic speaking group but the oldest non semitic tribe of ethiopia the oromo are indeed the oldest afro-asiatic language speaking people. Other tribes in ethiopia have heavy north african and arab dna due to a number of back migrations.
" Arredi et al. 2004 believe the pattern of distribution and variance to be consistent with the hypothesis of a post Paleolithic "demic diffusion" from the East. The ancestral lineage of E-M81 in their hypothesis could have been linked with the spread of Neolithic food-producing technologies from the Fertile Crescent via the Nile, although pastoralism rather than agriculture. E-M81 may also have been carried into its currently most common region together with a form of proto-Afroasiatic. On the basis of these possible links, the men who brought E-M81 into northwestern Africa may therefore have come from Asia, or they may represent a "local contribution to the North African Neolithic transition". But there is no autochthonous presence of E-M81 in the Near East, indicating that M81 most likely emerged from its parent clade M35 either in [North Africa, or possibly as far south as the Horn of Africa.[15]"
kahkem

Lynnwood, WA

#17775 Oct 4, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Check out this MTDNA MAP! Euthiopians ARE FAR MORE RELATED TO SUB-SAHARAN AFRICANS:
www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/worldmtdnamap....
of course silly negro ethiopian have a closer MITOCHONDRIAL DNA to sub-saharan african but so do yemenis and saudis had your link showed those areas not to mention these are a large but least infuencocial tribes in ethiopia and NOT real ethiopian but native african tribes who are accepted as ethiopian.

Look at the start contrast between your ancsotrs that you desperately want to distance yourself by claiming to be a white jew
http://mccoy.lib.siu.edu/jmccall/jones/igbo/a...
http://blacktown.net/Mamm_nurse_photo.jpg

and here are real ethiopians and somais whose proud history and beautiful facial features are alone to speak for them.
http://kalsonabdi.files.wordpress.com/2013/08...
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzgqtg2bMD1...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/...
kahkem

Lynnwood, WA

#17776 Oct 4, 2013
Ish Tov
African AE
Curious Me

A west african monkey ape disquised as other ethnic groups out of shame but his low IQ is a dead giveaway.

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#17777 Oct 4, 2013
motts wrote:
<quoted text>
There are Black people and White people. Ask the Spanish, most of them are a by-product of both. Get it? Get it!
Wrong, uneducated smartass pseudo-intellectual Afronazi cult boy.

Spanish are overwhelmingly European with only small % of African ancestry.

“white people” and “black people” are a fantasy, an invention of racist euroimperialists.

Congratulations for thinking just like them, chump.
Toomis

Houston, TX

#17778 Oct 4, 2013
motts wrote:
<quoted text>
There are Black people and White people. Ask the Spanish, most of them are a by-product of both. Get it? Get it!
What a dummy.
motts

UK

#17780 Oct 5, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong, uneducated smartass pseudo-intellectual Afronazi cult boy.
Spanish are overwhelmingly European with only small % of African ancestry.
“white people” and “black people” are a fantasy, an invention of racist euroimperialists.
Congratulations for thinking just like them, chump.
You have used the terms 'Black' and 'White' in reference to people many times, so stop going all scientific just when it suits you...

Ish Tov
Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#17781 Oct 5, 2013
motts wrote:
<quoted text>
You have used the terms 'Black' and 'White' in reference to people many times, so stop going all scientific just when it suits you...
I am not the one using those terms except when referring to USA ethnic groups who foolishly name themselves “white” and “black”.

And so, boy, you are a liar. Again.

And you are a racist, therefore subhuman scum, whose death today would improve society.

Yes, I'm always “going all scientific” on your uneducated dropped-out pseudo-intellectual cultist Afronazi racist ass.

Boy.
motts

UK

#17782 Oct 5, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not the one using those terms except when referring to USA ethnic groups who foolishly name themselves “white” and “black”.
And so, boy, you are a liar. Again.
And you are a racist, therefore subhuman scum, whose death today would improve society.
Yes, I'm always “going all scientific” on your uneducated dropped-out pseudo-intellectual cultist Afronazi racist ass.
Boy.
So you do use those terms you silly boy...make your mind up.

As for the rest of your post...the rantings and ravings of a mentally deficient misfit.

BTW...How is your Black son? LOL!

Muchacho
trollslayer

Munster, IN

#17783 Oct 5, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
You're very confused.
Afroasiatic languages were brought into Africa, but E is African. No confusion. What are the indigenous languages of Africa (not counting Khoisan, Twa, etc.)?
Nilotic
Kordofanian-Bantu
And where is the Eurasian DNA usually found in Africa? Along with Afroasiatic languages.
Berber---Maghreb predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years
Kemetic---along the Nile, surrounded by Nilotic, which is the pattern of an intrusive (immigrant) language
Cushitic---always with Eurasian DNA
Chadic---with Eurasian DNA all along its migration path which trace back to the Nile
Semitic---in Africa always accompanied by Mideastern DNA
E is Africa. Not everyone with E is an African, however, because there is E mixed in with Mideasterners, Maghrebians and Europeans, but it is a minority type, the majority of those peoples DNA being Eurasian of various sorts.
There is no “Hamitic race” and it was Mideasternere of type J, and Dravidians, according to archaeological evidence, who created civilizations in the Mideast/southern Iran.
The Minoans were Europeans.
Phoenicians were Mideastern Semites.
Indians were and are a mix of various Eurasian types, including Y-DNA types C5, H, L, R and others.
SE Asians likewise have no African admixture.
Your diffusionism is outmoded. Civilization did not begin in Africa and diffuse to everywhere else, nor be created in other continents by Africans. No extra-African civilization is known to have been created by anyone with more than a small bit of African ancestry.
The truth is that:
civilization was created in Africa
civilization was created in the Mideast
civilization was created in Europe
civilization was created in India
civilization was created in SE Asia
civilization was created in China
civilization was created in Mesoamerica
civilization was created in the Andean region
more 'barros' trollism WITHOUT VERIFYING LINKS OR REFERENCE TO AUTHORITIES AND or AFRICAN SCHOLARS= EURO PIPE DREAMS.
trollslayer

Munster, IN

#17784 Oct 5, 2013
European paint their face black, and wear an afro to prepare for the Moorish parade:
http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t606/Cons...

WHY?
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#17785 Oct 5, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
European paint their face black, and wear an afro to prepare for the Moorish parade:
http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t606/Cons...
WHY?
Because they are idiots who had to much to drink!
motts

UK

#17786 Oct 5, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Because they are idiots who had to much to drink!
Typical Euronut response...
trollslayer

Munster, IN

#17789 Oct 5, 2013
motts wrote:
<quoted text>
Typical Euronut response...
exactly !!!......lets PRETEND we don't see the TRUTH.

_____

and now for your daily comedy dosage......

" ''I thought in stumbling across this site that I would find positive Black people discussing issues of importance to our race. What I found instead (and sadly participated in) was a group of Black people arguing and insulting each other, white racists degrading Blacks, BLACK women degrading Black men, white men fulfilling their sick fantasies and others that are more graphic than I care to mention.

In a nutshell, this place is not for me. I have a great life, a beautiful and proud young Black son, a career that is progressing and an appreciation for my people that knows no limits. Being here has brought out the negative side of me that I would prefer not to come out daily.

I believe that the majority of the people here mean well and are only guilty of falling into the same negative traps that I am making a decision not to any longer. There are so many other important issues for our people to discuss. Yet it seems that the only discussions that get any attention are those that are in my opinion just stupid and a waste of time! I mean really people, how much time will you dedicate to debating IR dating? At the same time, a thread about the stimulus package proposed by the president of the US gets absolutely no attention.

Again, I have met a few great people here and wouldn’t mind keeping in contact with them, but not here. There is just too much positive in my life to allow this site to change that. I am guilty of participating and attacking people here also. While I might say, I was protecting myself or my people, the fact is that I realize that nothing I say here will actually make a change in how anyone here lives or thinks. Knowing that, I really don’t see the point of participating.

I realized that when I actually left my home to go meet someone from this site who attacked me that I needed to remove this site from my life. I’m not saying you are all wrong for staying, this site is just not right for me.

I will stick around today and reply to the anticipated bull crap responses to this but I will not return tomorrow. It was nice to have had this experience and to have met you all.''

Ish Tov "

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TFBQA8DMSLFQ3...
motts

UK

#17790 Oct 5, 2013
Barros said...I mean Ish Tov said:

'I realized that when I actually left my home to go meet someone from this site who attacked me that I needed to remove this site from my life. I’m not saying you are all wrong for staying, this site is just not right for me.'

**********

What did that guy do to you?

You didn't need to remove the site from your life, you just needed to stop chatting BS LOL!
I'm glad you decided to come back because you provide comic value at the very least.

BTW, Where is that Black boy? LOL!
neutral observer

West Palm Beach, FL

#17791 Oct 5, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>READ YOUR BIBLE low IQ AFRONAZI IDIOT! Abraham came from Shem!!!! SHEMITES ARE INDIGENOUS MIDDLE EASTERN PEOPLE! Abraham came from UR IN THE CHALDEANS! It says so in the BIBLE maybe youve heard of the bible Afronazi idiot????
The Bible was written by semi-literate semitic nomads wandering around in the desert.
motts

UK

#17792 Oct 5, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
Barros.aka Ish Tov said:
“white people” and “black people” are a fantasy, an invention of racist euroimperialists.
Congratulations for thinking just like them, chump.
Ish Tov said:

" ''I thought in stumbling across this site that I would find positive Black people discussing issues of importance to our race. What I found instead (and sadly participated in) was a group of Black people arguing and insulting each other, white racists degrading Blacks, BLACK women degrading Black men, white men fulfilling their sick fantasies and others that are more graphic than I care to mention.
In a nutshell, this place is not for me. I have a great life, a beautiful and proud young Black son, a career that is progressing and an appreciation for my people that knows no limits. Being here has brought out the negative side of me that I would prefer not to come out daily.

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TFBQA8DMSLFQ3...

**********

Enough said LOL!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#17793 Oct 5, 2013
The Moor wrote:
<quoted text>
They were black Africans originally plain and simple...they became a mixed people after having conquered the lands that they traveled...do you not understand that men in power always get the most beautiful women and they mate with those women...that is so many Arabs are mixed to this day...what part of that is hard for you to understand?
*THERE WAS NO "MYSTERIOUS (NON AFRICAN-NON ARABIC)BERBER" OR OTHER PEOPLE IN THAT REGION THE PEOPLE IN QUESTION WERE BLACK AFRICANS...OTHER WISE WHERE DID THESE PEOPLE COME FROM...THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE NOW ARE NOT THE ORIGINAL PEOPLES THAT WERE THERE EARLIER... YOU ARE THE ONE SPREADING PSEUDO HISTORY!
THE LIES THAT THE ARABS LATER TOLD THEIR CHILDREN BUT ARABS WHO REALLY KNOW HISTORY...THE HISTORY OF THEIR PEOPLE AND OF ISLAM KNOW THE TRUTH...THIS IS THE NATURE OF THE LOVE HATE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THEM AND AA!
According to DNA, THE MOORS WERE NOT AFRICANS and NOT related to Sub-Saharan Africans at all. Spanish people have virtually NO Sub-Saharan DNA. After 300 years living in Spain, if the Moors were black, surely the Spanish would have high levels of Sub-Saharan DNA? There were Africans among the Moors but the majority WERE NOT BLACK!
WORLD HAPLOGROUP MAP:
www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogrou...

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