the moors were black africans not ara...
motts

Colne, UK

#15706 May 4, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
....ok please note. There are a couple racist white trolls here BEGGING to be fed. DON'T do it. They can't live here without "food"....don't fed them
You said two racist white trolls. Well, one of them is white; the other is desperate to be.

Anyway, I agree they must not be fed.
motts

Colne, UK

#15707 May 4, 2013
DON'T MISS CLASS TOMORROW! THANKS FOR PAYING ATTENTION.
Mike

Greenville, NH

#15708 May 4, 2013
He doesn't understand what Blackamoor art is, trying to enlighten him is an exercise in futility.

He tries to pass off Blackamoor art as some historical documentation of the Moors that conquered Southern Spain, which is so beyond absurd it beggars belief. It just goes to show how ignorant he is of actual history... to see Blackamoor art and not realize it was art European nobility used during the time of the trans-Atlantic slave trade to simultaneously demean sub Saharan Africans and flaunt their personal hoards of wealth as European nobility is very telling as to his understanding of the past.
aaron

Vancouver, Canada

#15709 May 4, 2013
the berbers are not like african american this is ia not true i have visited morocco i did not see this feature only a few times this is not your heritage
the berbers of morocco are from imliq who are successors to the adites i mentioned the lydians who are the hittites were in north africa they mixed with the afro asiatic chubs,phut and cush in north africa they are different than the african american
tye the blacks and the afro asiatic cushites are from cush bin ham doent mean they are same race no no the sons of Noah sons were the progenitors of different races. the berbers from what i saw also had a indo aryan feature some arabian the reason they have a arabian look is do to them coming from the imliq(adites) Qahtani arabs were there after
all this romans greeks. nordic type came after this even the greeks are from indo aryan hittites mixed with edomite(adite)
aaron

Vancouver, Canada

#15710 May 4, 2013
also the phoenicians were in north africa they were canaanite with straight hair how come people are not mentioning this the phoenicians hamitic canaanites also mixed with the imliq so they are from adites
when you go to yemen and areas of southern arabia
you will see dark indian looking arabs

berbers
aaron

Vancouver, Canada

#15711 May 4, 2013
berbers !
http://www.youtube.com/watch... dabke
imliq are successors of the adites Ad and thamud sons of Aram imliq mixed with sons of Aram
arman are the nabateans
http://www.youtube.com/watch... berbers
trollslayer

Saint John, IN

#15712 May 4, 2013
motts wrote:
<quoted text>
You said two racist white trolls. Well, one of them is white; the other is desperate to be.
Anyway, I agree they must not be fed.
...ya' have to ask yourself, why would these white trolls CARE whats going on in AA forum or in a thread dealing with the Moors if the info being shared in this thread isn't true. It's like these white trolls are on a disinformation mission. So I go back too Shakespeare....." the lady dost protest too much"
Mike

Greenville, NH

#15713 May 4, 2013
It's "doth," you uneducated dimwit.

The only people "trolling" are those deliberately trying to steal entire cultures and histories from those which they rightfully belong... as a futile attempt to bolster their own deep sense of personal and cultural insecurity. I love how Afrocentrists make absolutely insane claims and then when a reasonable person steps in to point out the sheer absurdity of them and presents copious amounts of actual historical evidence completely debunking those claims those same Afrocentrists rail on and on about "trolls."

I mean, honestly, to post pictures of European Blackamoor art from the 17th century as some sort of "proof" the Moors that invaded Southern Spain were Sub Saharan African only makes YOU look like an idiot, that's all. That very "art" completely contradicts your assertions, and you are so ignorant of legitimate history that you don't even realize it. It's sad.
trollslayer

Saint John, IN

#15714 May 5, 2013
Mike wrote:
It's "doth," you uneducated dimwit.
The only people "trolling" are those deliberately trying to steal entire cultures and histories from those which they rightfully belong... as a futile attempt to bolster their own deep sense of personal and cultural insecurity. I love how Afrocentrists make absolutely insane claims and then when a reasonable person steps in to point out the sheer absurdity of them and presents copious amounts of actual historical evidence completely debunking those claims those same Afrocentrists rail on and on about "trolls."
I mean, honestly, to post pictures of European Blackamoor art from the 17th century as some sort of "proof" the Moors that invaded Southern Spain were Sub Saharan African only makes YOU look like an idiot, that's all. That very "art" completely contradicts your assertions, and you are so ignorant of legitimate history that you don't even realize it. It's sad.
Ok..you got "doth" right...now don't get ur hand to sticky in celebration.
_____

The problem with racists liars is anytime the proverbial "road" leads back to Africa or African contributions.....it can't be.

Instead...PPL like wanna 1)pull out "slavery card" 2) pull out the
"Afrocentrists card", which use to be the "black militant card" and when all else fails 3) just use race bias pseudoscience to 'rewrite' history to reflect whites being this "great race" who ushered in civilization to world with NO help from anyone.

____

Oh...I guess Alessandro de' Medici, the 1st Duke of Italy was "white".
http://www.google.com/url...

Level 4

Since: Apr 13

Bucharest, Romania

#15715 May 5, 2013
trollslayer

Saint John, IN

#15716 May 5, 2013
iPaul wrote:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KqwD Slx7Sm4/T5LtqnoRhhI/AAAAAAAAD0 8/6v7-AbWP8CI/s1600/alhambra+g ranada+sala+de+los+reyes.jpg
The moors where white.Fact!
can you be sure that picture doesn't depict slave descendants of moors. you know Moors had white slaves
motts

Colne, UK

#15717 May 5, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
...ya' have to ask yourself, why would these white trolls CARE whats going on in AA forum or in a thread dealing with the Moors if the info being shared in this thread isn't true. It's like these white trolls are on a disinformation mission. So I go back too Shakespeare....." the lady dost protest too much"
So true. If they don't believe their own lies, why should anyone else?

I love the fact that we have so much power over these EURONUTS, and you pointed out, they can't stay away from an AA forum.
That alone reveals their mental inferiority as they need 'Black buyers for the SCIENCE FICTION they are peddling', to compensate for their inferiority complex.
When their SCI-FI garbage is rejected, they resort to all that's left in their depleted non-intellectual armoury....verbal abuse. POOR TROLLS! LOL!

Even when we converse with each other, they can't handle it. Boy are they weak!!
motts

Colne, UK

#15718 May 5, 2013
CLASSES WILL COMMENCE LATER DUE TO THE MAN UTD/CHELSEA FIXTURE
Jake

Ardsley, NY

#15719 May 5, 2013
motts wrote:
<quoted text>
So true. If they don't believe their own lies, why should anyone else?
I love the fact that we have so much power over these EURONUTS, and you pointed out, they can't stay away from an AA forum.
That alone reveals their mental inferiority as they need 'Black buyers for the SCIENCE FICTION they are peddling', to compensate for their inferiority complex.
When their SCI-FI garbage is rejected, they resort to all that's left in their depleted non-intellectual armoury....verbal abuse. POOR TROLLS! LOL!
Even when we converse with each other, they can't handle it. Boy are they weak!!
You are living in a White people's country, in a modem developed civilization created by White people, white people are the ones who allow your gorillas freeloading ass to live in their country, your black "bros", that is those who aren't drowning like rats to reach our White Modern Developed Countries, live in your Undeveloped 3rd World Black Sh8tlands like primitives still begging for whitey to come back and rule them cause they have no idea as to how to rule nations, and you claim to have "all the power"? Typical black delusional mentality. Thank your lord and masters the White Race for allowing you to live in our White Modern Developed Nations and you aren't back in your Carib 3rd World Undeveloped homeland that you blacks turned into toilet filth like you do any place you are allowed to defect on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
motts

Colne, UK

#15722 May 5, 2013
MOOR = BLACK AFRICAN

"Snowden (1970) and Desanges (1981) reference various writers’ physical descriptions of the ancient Maghreb’s inhabitants. In various writers’ physical descriptions of the ancient Maghreb’s inhabitants. In addition to the presence of fair-skinned blonds, various “Ethiopian” or “part-Ethiopian” groups are described, near the coast and on the southern slopes of the Atlas mountains.“Ethiopians,” meaning dark-skinned peoples usually having “ulotrichous”(wooly) hair, are noted in various Greek accounts and European coinage (Snowden, 1970). Hiernaux (1975) interprets the finding of “subsaharan” population affinities in living Maghrebans as being solely the result of the medieval transsaharan slave trade; it is clear that this is not the case. Furthermore, the blacks of the ancient Maghreb were apparently not foreign or a caste." (S.O.Y Keita, "Studies of Ancient Crania From Northern Africa," American Journal of Physical Anthropology, 83:35-48 (1990).

 Joseph Vogel stressed: "Populations and cultures now found south of the desert roamed far to the north." (Encyclopedia of Precolonial Africa by Joseph O. Vogel, AltaMira Press, Walnut Creek, California, 1997, pp. 465-472).

"Except for the Zandj (black slaves) from lower Iraq, no large body of blacks historically linked to the trans-Saharan slave trade existed anywhere in the Arab world ... The high costs of slaves, because of the risks inherent in the desert crossing, which would have not permitted such a massive exodus ... Until the Crusades the Muslim world drew its slaves from two main sources: Eastern and Central Europe (Slavs) and Turkestan. The Sudan only came third." - Africa from the Seventh to Eleventh Century, UNESCO, 1988.
motts

Colne, UK

#15723 May 5, 2013
BLACK MOORISH ROYALTY IN MOROCCO

Moulay al-Rashid (1631-1672)(Arabic:&#1605; &#1608;&#1604;&#15 75;&#1610; &#1575;&#1604;&#15 85;&#1588;&#1610;& #1583;) was Sultan of Morocco from 1666 to 1672.
Mawlaay or Moulay al-Rashid is called the founder of the Alaouite Dynasty.

this is how Mulay al-Rashid was described at the time: "He is of middle size; his face is long and thin; his beard, forked and white, his color, almost black with a white mark near the nose" - Abbé Busnot, Histoire de Regne de Mouley Ismael, Roven, 1714

http://moorishpac.com/moulay-al-rashid-sultan...

http://www.aucklandartgallery.com/the-collect...
motts

Colne, UK

#15725 May 5, 2013
BLACK MOORS IN EUROPEAN ROYALTY

Take a look at the first Duke of Florence..
Alessandro de' Medici (1511-37) of Black Moorish descent or should we say 'Moorish descent' as the 'Moors' were BLACK.
The Medici, an Italian family of merchants, bankers, rulers, patrons and collectors, dominated the political and cultural life of Florence from the 15th century to the mid 18th century.
So even after the Moors were defeated they were still held in high regard all over Europe in many royal families.

http://www.google.co.uk/search...

Queen Charlotte, wife of the English King George III (1738-1820), was directly descended from Margarita de Castro y Sousa, a black MOORISH branch of the Portuguese Royal House.

Queen Charlotte at the NATION PORTRAIT GALLERY IN LONDON

http://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/port...

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/roots/2004/02/black...
Scroll down and see here in England they can admit that Black Moors were part of royalty.

“The suggestion that Queen Charlotte was black implies that her granddaughter (Queen Victoria) and her great-great-great-great-grandd aughter (Queen Elizabeth II) had African forebears. Perhaps, instead of just being a boring bunch of semi-inbred white stiffs, our royal family becomes much more interesting.”(The Guardian, March 12, 2009)
The Guardian newspaper and the BBC are definitely not afrocentric.

Now here's the question I pose to the EURONUTS. If Black Moors were the worthless slaves they claim they were, why are they married to European royalty?
motts

Colne, UK

#15726 May 5, 2013
You must drop in next time you are in Philadelphia. Lovely piece of work.

http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/perman...

This is one of my favourites. I wish I could pull some of those 'Morris moves.' The Black Moors taught the Spanish very well.

http://www.muenchner-stadtmuseum.de/en/muench...
motts

Colne, UK

#15727 May 5, 2013
THE SPANISH KNOW WHAT MOORS LOOKED LIKE…THEY SHOULD!!

Statue of Saint Benedict the Moor in the Franciscan church in Santiago de Compostela, Spain
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3560/338451882...

THE SPANISH KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE WHAT THE MOORS LOOKED LIKE

&fe ature=watch_response
motts

Colne, UK

#15728 May 5, 2013
THE EUROPEANS KNOW WHAT MOORS LOOKED LIKE

THE MOORS
Moor figure in sanssouci potsdam, Germany
http://wikimapia.org/17270480/Moorish-Rondell...

Moor figure in scauffhausen, Switzerland (copy and paste, all one link)
http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/infra_anlagen...

Statue of Saint Benedict the Moor in the Franciscan church in Santiago de Compostela, Spain
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3560/338451882...

Another image of a Black Moor can be seen on the Coat of Arms of His Holiness Benedict XVI.:

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xv...

The following link show a statue of BLACK AFRICAN MOORS in Venice Italy

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-83388826/stoc...

Moor sculpture in Memmingen, Germany
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memmin...

The Coburg Moor
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zsenya/499998250...

St. Mauritius the Moor
http://www.taneter.org/moors.html

A MOOR on the COAT OF ARMS of CORSICA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arm...

4 MOORS on the COAT OF ARMS of SARDINIA
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coats_of_ar...
Image of Gannibal the Moor of St Petersburg

http://bulletsandhoney.wordpress.com/2005/08/...

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