the moors were black africans not ara...

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#15661 May 3, 2013
motts wrote:
CLASSES WILL RESTART TOMORROW
HAH!

YOU must be waiting to catch a ride on the 'short' Manchester bus.

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bamako,mali

#15662 May 3, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
LOL at Afronazi rhetoric.
You talk like politicians.
But how about this:
EVIDENCE!!!
Yeah, that word scares y'all!
You know, like the evidence proving that the Maghreb has been predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years... about which evidence you've been unable to say a thing.
Explain please why remains 12k yrs old from Taforalt had 100% Eurasian DNA, eh?
Right... you cannot deal with that, so post some more of your endless BS.
Evidence on the matter is what you lack the most barros ,where is YOUR evidence ???
motts

Colne, UK

#15663 May 3, 2013
dcool wrote:
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Evidence on the matter is what you lack the most barros ,where is YOUR evidence ???
His evidence' is as legitimate as the evidence of WMD's in Iraq.

These EURONUTS practise knowledge evasion and hold firmly to conclusions that are incompatible with the evidence, with regards to the Moors.

Their denial functions to protect their egos from the one FACT that they cannot cope with....which is that:

BLACK MOORS CONQUERED SPAIN!

BLACK MOORS CONQUERED SPAIN!

BLACK MOORS CONQUERED SPAIN!

BLACK MOORS CONQUERED SPAIN!
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#15664 May 3, 2013
dcool wrote:
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Evidence on the matter is what you lack the most barros ,where is YOUR evidence ???
'barros' thinks if he says non-blacks were "indigenous" to Africa enuff...maybe somebody will believe him. Not gonna happen

“Look upon reality!”

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#15665 May 3, 2013
You dummies ignore the evidence.

Afrocentrics are the dumbest people on the planet..

We have provided DNA, Lingual(written evidence) and depictions of actual Moors during the occupation of southern Spain.

Here let me repost the evidence ...In case you missed it<sarcasm>

DNA
http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...

Written
Ibn Khaldun(A MOOR)(d. 1406CE) added that blacks are “only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings.”

Ibn Hazm(A MOOR)(eleventh century) Wrote. "Negroes in africa neither have books, nor sciences or histories"

The Berbers belong to a powerful, formidable, and numerous people; a true people like so many others, the world has seen - like the Arabs, the Persians, the Greeks and the Romans.-- Ibn Khaldun(A MOOR), 14th century scholar

The only people who accept slavery are the Negroes, owing to their low degree of humanity and proximity to the animal stage. Other persons who accept the status of slave do so as a means of attaining high rank, or power, or wealth, as is the case with the Mameluke Turks in the East and with those Franks and Galicians who enter the service of the state [in Spain]-Ibn Khaldun(A MOOR), 14th century scholar

Depictions of Moors DURING THE TIME OF THE MOORS

http://www.angelfire.com/md/8/moors.html

http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpr...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

http://www.paradoxplace.com/Photo%20Pages/Spa...

Next!

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#15666 May 3, 2013
moot wrote:
<quoted text>
His evidence' is as legitimate as the evidence of WMD's in Iraq.
These EURONUTS practise knowledge evasion and hold firmly to conclusions that are incompatible with the evidence, with regards to the Moors.
Their denial functions to protect their egos from the one FACT that they cannot cope with....which is that:
BLACK MOORS CONQUERED SPAIN!
BLACK MOORS CONQUERED SPAIN!
BLACK MOORS CONQUERED SPAIN!
BLACK MOORS CONQUERED SPAIN!
No matter how many times you shout it out loud to yourself,

it's never ever going to become true.
aaron

Vancouver, Canada

#15667 May 4, 2013
aaron

Vancouver, Canada

#15668 May 4, 2013
Ibn Khaldun



Historian and scholar, Ibn Khaldun also mentions the Thamud several times in his great universal history al-Kit&#257;bu l-&#699;ib&#257;r ("Book of Evidence"), but only in passing, seldom giving much information.



Some examples from the Muqaddimah ("Introduction"):





This can be illustrated by what happened among the nations. When the royal authority of 'Ad was wiped out, their brethren, the Thamud, took over. They were succeeded, in turn, by their brethren, the Amalekites. The Amalekites were succeeded by their brethren, the Himyar. The Himyar were succeeded by their brethren, the Tubba's, who belonged to the Himyar. They, likewise, were succeeded, by the Adhwa'. Then, the Mudar came to power.

—Ibn Khaldun, Muqaddimah Chapter II Bedouin civilization, savage nations and tribes and their conditions of life, including several basic and explanatory statements, 21 As long as a nation retains its group feeling, royal authority that disappears in one branch will, of necessity, pass to some other branch of the same nation ( note amalekites are the Imliq) "
aaron

Vancouver, Canada

#15669 May 4, 2013
'Imliq is the father of the Amalekites from whom came the berbers,who are children of Thamila bin Maarib bin Faaraan bin 'Amr bin 'Imliq bin Lud bin Sam(Shem) bin Nuh (Noah)PBH

.prophets and patriarchs
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on 02/09/12

I dreamt of north africa and the berbers come from the Hittites who come from the Adites MashaaAllaah
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on 10/10/2012
I dreamt of north africa Morocco and I saw the face of my Moroccan and that the berbers are from the Imliq (are from the Ad)
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no date 2 times i dreamt the Lydians were in North africa and 1 time they are the Hittites!
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aaron

Vancouver, Canada

#15670 May 4, 2013
on 08/15/12 I dreamt there is no such thing as the amalekites the Imliq are from the Ad
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According to Arab historians such as Ibn Khaldun and Ali ibn al-Athir, Amalek is a name given to the Amorites and the Canaanites. on 02/17/13 i dreamt all the imliq are from Ad

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To Lud bin Shem was born Tasm and Judays?who dwelt in al Yamaamah.Lud also begot 'Imliq whose dwelling place was the holy area(al haram) and the outskirts of Makka. Some of his descendant's reached Syria among these are the Amalekites from whom the Pharaohs of Egypt came. To Lud to was born Umaym who had many offspring some of these broke away to join Gomer bin Japheth in East.



from prophets and patriarchs

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on 30/08/12

I have dreamt the greeks and Kurds are same and that the Kurds are from the Edomites adites idumeans

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on 17/03/12 I dreamt the asians also have a little bit of Hittite background

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on 09/30/12 i dreamt the kurds are from hittite royalty and indians(india)
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Imliq mixed with the hamitic canaanite phoenicians another branch of the straight haired dravidians and they mixed with another canaanite people like pure aboriginal people of north america collectively they are known as Imliq and the Imliq mixed with the adites who are sons of Aram bin Shem Prophet Hud and SaaliH are from the line of Aram Hud is not Eber he is from people of Ad bin Aws bin Aram
Giggs

Liverpool, UK

#15671 May 4, 2013
denita d wrote:
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT THE ORGIN OF THE MOORS,FROM MY READINGS I HAVE FOUND THAT THEY WERE BLACK AFRICANS NOT ARAB,WHEN THEY WENT TO SPAIN THET TOOK ON WHITE SLAVES AND REPRODUCED WITH THEM,BUT THE ORIGINAL MOORS WERE NOT ARAB,THESE MEN WERE ALSO MUSLIM AS WELL,AND RULED OVER THAT COUNTRY FOR ALMOST 900 YEARS,WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THIS...LETS TALK.
The trans atlantic slave trade was retribution for what the moors did.....

And yes we dam well showed you animals what we can do!
aaron

Vancouver, Canada

#15672 May 4, 2013
akkadians obviously had something to do with canaanites as the sumerians were another branch of the dravidian canaanites also the assyrians were a mix akkadian amorite(imliq)

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#15673 May 4, 2013
Giggs wrote:
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The trans atlantic slave trade was retribution for what the moors did.....
And yes we dam well showed you animals what we can do!
No, it wasn't any sub-Saharan Africans that caused the Muslim invasion of Iberia,

unless you want to count the conscripted Negro slaves that the North African Berbers had force converted to Islam when the Amoravid consortium came into power,

but their interlude in Spain lasted little more than 50yrs,

and the Negro conscript contingent of the Amoravid Armies in Spain amounted to no more than 6,000 which was merely a fraction of the those Amoravid forces.

It is a regrettable fact that European immigrants to the New World opted to continue the shameful act of continuing what the Arabized Berbers had begun.

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#15674 May 4, 2013
Sorry for the poor wording.

Better said as...

"It is a regrettable fact that European immigrants to the New World opted to continue the shameful act of [doing the same thing that] the Arabized Berbers had begun.

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bamako,mali

#15675 May 4, 2013
LMAO !
motts

Colne, UK

#15678 May 4, 2013
MOOR = BLACK AFRICAN

"Snowden (1970) and Desanges (1981) reference various writers’ physical descriptions of the ancient Maghreb’s inhabitants. In various writers’ physical descriptions of the ancient Maghreb’s inhabitants. In addition to the presence of fair-skinned blonds, various “Ethiopian” or “part-Ethiopian” groups are described, near the coast and on the southern slopes of the Atlas mountains.“Ethiopians,” meaning dark-skinned peoples usually having “ulotrichous”(wooly) hair, are noted in various Greek accounts and European coinage (Snowden, 1970). Hiernaux (1975) interprets the finding of “subsaharan” population affinities in living Maghrebans as being solely the result of the medieval transsaharan slave trade; it is clear that this is not the case. Furthermore, the blacks of the ancient Maghreb were apparently not foreign or a caste." (S.O.Y Keita, "Studies of Ancient Crania From Northern Africa," American Journal of Physical Anthropology, 83:35-48 (1990).

 Joseph Vogel stressed: "Populations and cultures now found south of the desert roamed far to the north." (Encyclopedia of Precolonial Africa by Joseph O. Vogel, AltaMira Press, Walnut Creek, California, 1997, pp. 465-472).

"Except for the Zandj (black slaves) from lower Iraq, no large body of blacks historically linked to the trans-Saharan slave trade existed anywhere in the Arab world ... The high costs of slaves, because of the risks inherent in the desert crossing, which would have not permitted such a massive exodus ... Until the Crusades the Muslim world drew its slaves from two main sources: Eastern and Central Europe (Slavs) and Turkestan. The Sudan only came third." - Africa from the Seventh to Eleventh Century, UNESCO, 1988.
motts

Colne, UK

#15680 May 4, 2013
THE MOORS AND EUROPEAN ROYALTY

Take a look at the first Duke of Florence..
Alessandro de' Medici (1511-37) of Black Moorish descent or should we say 'Moorish descent' as the 'Moors' were BLACK.
The Medici, an Italian family of merchants, bankers, rulers, patrons and collectors, dominated the political and cultural life of Florence from the 15th century to the mid 18th century.
So even after the Moors were defeated they were still held in high regard all over Europe in many royal families.

http://www.google.co.uk/search...

Queen Charlotte, wife of the English King George III (1738-1820), was directly descended from Margarita de Castro y Sousa, a black MOORISH branch of the Portuguese Royal House.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/roots/2004/02/black...
Scroll down and see here in England they can admit that Black Moors were part of royalty.

“The suggestion that Queen Charlotte was black implies that her granddaughter (Queen Victoria) and her great-great-great-great-grandd aughter (Queen Elizabeth II) had African forebears. Perhaps, instead of just being a boring bunch of semi-inbred white stiffs, our royal family becomes much more interesting.”(The Guardian, March 12, 2009)
The Guardian newspaper and the BBC are definitely not afrocentric.

Now here's the question I pose to the EURONUTS. If Black Moors were the worthless slaves they claim they were, why are they married to European royalty?
motts

Colne, UK

#15681 May 4, 2013
BLACK MOORISH ROYALTY IN MOROCCO

Moulay al-Rashid (1631-1672)(Arabic:&#1605; &#1608;&#1604;&#15 75;&#1610; &#1575;&#1604;&#15 85;&#1588;&#1610;& #1583;) was Sultan of Morocco from 1666 to 1672.
Mawlaay or Moulay al-Rashid is called the founder of the Alaouite Dynasty.

this is how Mulay al-Rashid was described at the time: "He is of middle size; his face is long and thin; his beard, forked and white, his color, almost black with a white mark near the nose" - Abbé Busnot, Histoire de Regne de Mouley Ismael, Roven, 1714

http://moorishpac.com/moulay-al-rashid-sultan...

http://www.aucklandartgallery.com/the-collect...
motts

Colne, UK

#15682 May 4, 2013
BLACK MOORISH EXHIBITS IN MUSEUMS

You must drop in next time you are in Philadelphia. Lovely piece of work.

http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/perman...

This is one of my favourites. I wish I could pull some of those 'Morris moves.' The Black Moors taught the Spanish very well.

http://www.muenchner-stadtmuseum.de/en/muench...
motts

Colne, UK

#15683 May 4, 2013
EUROPEANS KNOW WHO THE MOORS WERE

THE MOORS
Moor figure in sanssouci potsdam, Germany
http://wikimapia.org/17270480/Moorish-Rondell...

Moor figure in scauffhausen, Switzerland (copy and paste, all one link)
http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/infra_anlagen...

Statue of Saint Benedict the Moor in the Franciscan church in Santiago de Compostela, Spain
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3560/338451882...

Another image of a Black Moor can be seen on the Coat of Arms of His Holiness Benedict XVI.:

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xv...

The following link show a statue of BLACK AFRICAN MOORS in Venice Italy

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-83388826/stoc...

Moor sculpture in Memmingen, Germany
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memmin...

The Coburg Moor
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zsenya/499998250...

St. Mauritius the Moor
http://www.taneter.org/moors.html

A MOOR on the COAT OF ARMS of CORSICA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arm...

4 MOORS on the COAT OF ARMS of SARDINIA
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coats_of_ar...
Image of Gannibal the Moor of St Petersburg

http://bulletsandhoney.wordpress.com/2005/08/...

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