the moors were black africans not ara...
Ilmu Batin

Paris, France

#15425 Apr 24, 2013
The Zanj Rebellion according to M.A.Shaban they were never slaves according to Al Tabari text ( use by racist historians to qualify any black in the middle east as a slave):

http://books.google.fr/books...

See also the following pages.

Sinajuavi
Level 6

Since: Nov 11

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#15426 Apr 24, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
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Gosh, I thought she was American. Yeah...she's in her 70's. She use to better viewed as a 'sex symbol' in the U.S. years ago when she was young. Wow, she and Sean Connery are from Wales interesting.
David Derbyshire...yes I've heard of him. It's funny last summer I was talking with some PPL. from Ireland. One of them was saying how that weren't any or many Blacks in Ireland. I mentioned the Moors and this person had the "I forgot about one look on her face"..lol.
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Here's another article by Derbyshire titled:
"Is this how Eve spoke? Every human language evolved from 'single prehistoric African mother tongue' " I'll bet "afronuts" paid him off to write this...LOL
http://www.google.com/url...
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Tell me.....have heard of the Black British Historian Robin Walker?
Sean Connery is a Scot, numbnuts.
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#15427 Apr 24, 2013
Ilmu Batin wrote:
The Zanj Rebellion according to M.A.Shaban they were never slaves according to Al Tabari text ( use by racist historians to qualify any black in the middle east as a slave):
http://books.google.fr/books...
See also the following pages.
the word "slave" is always the " exit strategy" when certain non-black groups don't want to admit that blacks are indigenous to certain areas.
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#15428 Apr 24, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Sean Connery is a Scot, numbnuts.
ok....so when ur done celebrating, make sure u have some Kleenex or a towel handy.

Sinajuavi
Level 6

Since: Nov 11

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#15429 Apr 24, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
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the word "slave" is always the " exit strategy" when certain non-black groups don't want to admit that blacks are indigenous to certain areas.
Bull. The Arabs ran extensive slave plantations on the islands off Kenya and Tanzania: Pemba, Mafia, Zanzibar, etc. So some of them WERE slaves and in Africa, not even taken out to other places.

Blacks are indigenous to E Africa obviously; I don't know what you're talking about.

Sinajuavi
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Since: Nov 11

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#15430 Apr 24, 2013
motts wrote:
The trolls can never explain this dish LOL!
Moros_y_Cristianos or Moors and Christians.
AKA.. BLACK BEANS and WHITE RICE!!
The SPANISH people of Valencia just love it!! It's part of their BLACK ROOTS!!
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres...
Moron, it is easily explained, since some Moors were BLACK! How many times has this been explained to you, dumbass?

SOME of the Moors were black, and some were Arabs, but the most were non-black berbers from the Maghreb, which was a Eurasian region for 30,000 years. This is all well proven, and you're pissing in the wind, fool.

“DANGER!!”

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Since: Feb 08

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#15431 Apr 24, 2013
trollstupid wrote:
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Wrong...As a rule...I don't engage "jake". I did show pics of HIS monkey ancedtors, but that was only after he FIRST called Africans "monkeys".
2)I never fire back on anyone unless they're FIRST disrespectful toward (and in some cases toward others). The only time I respond with a crack is when somebody like YOU starts off a response with something negative like "moron". Just cuz somebody doesn't AGREE with YOU, doesn't mean name-calling will change anything or help sway someone. You'll never process that.
You're nothing but a DÚMB FÚÇKING ÁSS HÓLE, "TROLLSPUTO".

::GO FÚÇK YØURSELF::

"Shirley Bassey" was 'Welsh' like "King Kong" was a New Yorker.

"Robin Walker" is nothing but a PSEUDO-historian and has absolutely ZERO proof for any of his absurd murmurings.

“DANGER!!”

Level 8

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#15432 Apr 24, 2013
trollstupid wrote:
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the word "slave" is always the " exit strategy" when certain non-black groups don't want to admit that blacks are indigenous to certain areas.
You must have your HEAD up YOUR 'exit' strategy and we all know what THAT is.

So, BLOW IT OUT YOUR ÁSS.

That must be where your head goes to hide whenever you're presented with unassailable scientific evidence that destroys all of your irrelevant and inconsequential non-evidence, which is the ONLY material that you ever have for the spewing.

Nothing that you have ever presented can withstand the incontrovertible REAL evidence of archaeo-anthropological science concerning the overwhelmingly major populations of North Africa.

Basically, it makes you out to be nothing more than a FÓÓL and a LIAR.

•••

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...

The general population of North Africa has not changed significantly since before the Holocene Period.

"The indigenous North African ancestry may have been more common in Berber populations and appears most closely related to populations outside of Africa, but divergence between Maghrebi peoples and Near Eastern/Europeans likely precedes the Holocene (>12,000 ya)."

THAT alone dispels any asinine unscientific fantasy speculations about "European slaves" or "Vandals" or "Visigoths" having been so numerous as to have actually been able to put a noticeable dent in the genetic profile of North Africa.

From since before the Holocene Period, the general overall population of Western North Africa has most closely related to populations of the Near East and to a lesser extent to some populations from Europe.

•••

It's proof positive that your foolishly absurd allegations of a population of "European slaves", that was large enough to noticeably impact the genetic profile of North Africa, was nothing more than shear ignorant speculation.

If THAT had actually been happening, to such a speculated degree, there never would have been a market for the millions of BLACK SLAVES of which the the Saharan Tuareg had made a centuries long career by simply transporting them up to the Mediterranean ports of Maghribíya.

"We also find significant signatures of sub-Saharan African ancestry that vary substantially among populations. These sub-Saharan ancestries appear to be a recent introduction into North African populations, dating to about 1,200 years ago in southern Morocco and about 750 years ago into Egypt, possibly reflecting the patterns of the trans-Saharan slave trade that occurred during this period."

Sinajuavi
Level 6

Since: Nov 11

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#15433 Apr 24, 2013
Confirmed fact:

The Maghreb has been predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years.
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#15434 Apr 24, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
Confirmed.......LIE:
The Maghreb has been predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years.
fixed
Ilmu Batin

Paris, France

#15435 Apr 24, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
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the word "slave" is always the " exit strategy" when certain non-black groups don't want to admit that blacks are indigenous to certain areas.
I think that Shaban's demonstration closed the debate, I have Tabari's book in 4 volumes and nowhere he speaks of the Zanjs as slaves. Plus Al Jahiz also speaks about Turks, Slavs and Sind ( Indians from India) slaves in Irak ( confirmed by Bernard Lewis)

Now there is autochtonous black Arabs in Iraq( see Caussin de Perceval history of the Arabs Volume 1), and many dark skinned people in South Iran. People seems to forget that Darius had black Assyrians soldiers.

Conclusion , we cannot trust Euronuts lying " scholars" they try to label any black history as slaves ( sometimes even some Pharoahs...)...My own research showed me that white people have been slaves from antiquity to the 15th century, when Portuguese discovered Africa and when the Turks closed the Black Sea area via the Mediterranean sea ( Bernard Lewis, Phillips Jr, Charles Verlinden).

Georges scelle in his excellent book about the slave trade and Spanish asientos showed to the world that white slaves were also sold to the new world until the 17th century( Pizzaro's brother had white slaves).

The last Europeans in bondage were the Russians freed only few years before the blacks of America...

Afro descendants should study and tell their own story bro...
motts

Colne, UK

#15436 Apr 25, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
Confirmed fact:
The Maghreb has been predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years.
Weapons of mass destruction are in Iraq....don't know where they are, but they are there; they have to be. Trust me, I'm not telling lies!!!
motts

Colne, UK

#15438 Apr 25, 2013
The Spanish know the Moors were predominantly BLACK, they even named a dish after them.

The trolls can never explain this dish LOL!
Moros_y_Cristianos or Moors and Christians.
AKA.. BLACK BEANS and WHITE RICE!!

The SPANISH people of Valencia just love it!! It's part of their BLACK ROOTS!!

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres...
motts

Colne, UK

#15439 Apr 25, 2013
So even after the Moors were defeated they were still held in high regard all over Europe in many royal families.

Take a look at the first Duke of Florence..
Alessandro de' Medici (1511-37) of Black Moorish descent or should we say 'Moorish descent' as the 'Moors' were BLACK.
The Medici, an Italian family of merchants, bankers, rulers, patrons and collectors, dominated the political and cultural life of Florence from the 15th century to the mid 18th century.

http://www.google.co.uk/search...
motts

Colne, UK

#15440 Apr 25, 2013
Moor Black Moors in European royalty

Queen Charlotte, wife of the English King George III (1738-1820), was directly descended from Margarita de Castro y Sousa, a black moorish branch of the Portuguese Royal House.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/roots/2004/02/black...
Scroll down and see here in England they can admit that Black Moors were part of royalty.

“The suggestion that Queen Charlotte was black implies that her granddaughter (Queen Victoria) and her great-great-great-great-grandd aughter (Queen Elizabeth II) had African forebears. Perhaps, instead of just being a boring bunch of semi-inbred white stiffs, our royal family becomes much more interesting.”(The Guardian, March 12, 2009)
The Guardian newspaper and the BBC are definitely not afrocentric.

Now here's the question I pose to the EURONUTS. If Black Moors were the worthless slaves they claim they were, why are they married to European royalty?
motts

Colne, UK

#15443 Apr 25, 2013
You must drop in next time you are in Philadelphia. Lovely piece of work.

http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/perman...

This is one of my favourites. I wish I could pull some of those 'Morris moves.' The Black Moors taught the Spanish very well.

http://www.muenchner-stadtmuseum.de/en/muench...
motts

Colne, UK

#15444 Apr 25, 2013
THE SPANISH KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE WHAT THE MOORS LOOKED LIKE

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motts

Colne, UK

#15445 Apr 25, 2013
EURONUTS!! Grab some popcorn and a pepsi and enjoy!! At least try to..

Moors in Europe 2: Germany and the Holy Roman Empire



Moors in Europe 3: Who was that Head-Banded Man?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

The Heralded Moors
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Blacks Moors Ruled at one time in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

The BLACK Moorish Artifacts Speak for themselves (LISTEN CAREFULLY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

THE SPANISH KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE WHAT THE MOORS LOOKED LIKE

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Moors in Europe - Black Gold
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

100's of BLACK negro Moors Images in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Black royalties in ancient europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Powerful Images of Black Moors in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch... .
motts

Colne, UK

#15446 Apr 25, 2013
WHILE EURO AMERICANS NUTJOBS LIVE IN DENIAL, EUROPEANS KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE MOORS.

THE MOORS
Moor figure in sanssouci potsdam, Germany
http://wikimapia.org/17270480/Moorish-Rondell...

Moor figure in scauffhausen, Switzerland (copy and paste, all one link)
http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/infra_anlagen...

Statue of Saint Benedict the Moor in the Franciscan church in Santiago de Compostela, Spain
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3560/338451882...

Another image of a Black Moor can be seen on the Coat of Arms of His Holiness Benedict XVI.:

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xv...

The following link show a statue of BLACK AFRICAN MOORS in Venice Italy

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-83388826/stoc...

Moor sculpture in Memmingen, Germany
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memmin...

The Coburg Moor
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zsenya/499998250...

St. Mauritius the Moor
http://www.taneter.org/moors.html

A MOOR on the COAT OF ARMS of CORSICA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arm...

4 MOORS on the COAT OF ARMS of SARDINIA
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coats_of_ar...
Image of Gannibal the Moor of St Petersburg

http://bulletsandhoney.wordpress.com/2005/08/...

THE MOORS
Some lovely Black Moors statues. OOOOOOOH! Aren't they BEAUTIFUL!!
(Copy and paste-all one link)
http://www.google.com/search...

Paintings and depictions of black moors-(Copy and paste-all one link)
http://www.google.com/search...

The following link charts part of the Moors History in Jamaica during Slavery.:

http://www.caribbeanmuslims.com/attachments/1...
motts

Colne, UK

#15447 Apr 25, 2013
Hey EURONUTS!! Hope you enjoyed your daily dose of reality.

I patiently await your usual tantrums.

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