trollslayer

Schererville, IN

#15050 Apr 10, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice distraction, talking about ancient peoples, but the argument occurring, and which you've already lost (join the ranks of your vanquished Afronazi cohorts here), was regarding the nature of the MOORS who occupied and parasitized parts of Iberia for 7 centuries.
And they were mostly Berbers, mostly of Eurasian type, as are the Berbers generally, and have been for 30,000 years.
Get a real education.
Sinajuavi wrote:
"parasitized parts of Iberia for 7 centuries"
This is a lie 'barros'. Moors were NOT "euroasian". Moors HELPED Iberia and other parts of Spain. No one has been vanquished. Stop the delusions, distortions and thievery of Africa's history.
trollslayer

Schererville, IN

#15051 Apr 10, 2013
Ilmu Batin wrote:
Those of you who read in French you can read Marc Bloch's articles in per see website, " comment a disparu l'esclavage antique" in 2 parts....this article is BRUTAL....During the middle age monks in Europe had slave plantations with numerous slaves ( some had 4000,slaves),, slaves were branded, whipped, mutilated, raped and killed by their masters...according to the lex salica of the Visigoths a man was equal to a beef or a horse....BRUTALLLLL
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The racists NEVER wanna deal with the thousands of yrs. of white slavery going back to Greeks and beyond.
Ilmu Batin

Paris, France

#15055 Apr 11, 2013
For Eunuchs western lying propaganda forgot to mention that it was a European tradition already in place in Ancient Greece ( Finley), ancient Rome ( Wallon) and Byzance ( Rotman)... Christian slaves were prepared as eunuchs in France ( Verdun, as shown by Verlinden or Levy Provencal) to be sold in Spain, or prepared as eunuchs in Spain to be sold in Egypt or beyond ( see Phillips).

Once again most of the eunuchs ( like the slaves),in human history were white folks...
trollslayer

Schererville, IN

#15056 Apr 11, 2013
Ilmu Batin wrote:
For Eunuchs western lying propaganda forgot to mention that it was a European tradition already in place in Ancient Greece ( Finley), ancient Rome ( Wallon) and Byzance ( Rotman)... Christian slaves were prepared as eunuchs in France ( Verdun, as shown by Verlinden or Levy Provencal) to be sold in Spain, or prepared as eunuchs in Spain to be sold in Egypt or beyond ( see Phillips).
Once again most of the eunuchs ( like the slaves),in human history were white folks...
thank you for the authors(as a point of reference)....it's obvious you are working from the framework of several verifiable sources vs. just ranting & raving like the trolls here so often do.
Ilmu Batin

Paris, France

#15059 Apr 11, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
thank you for the authors(as a point of reference)....it's obvious you are working from the framework of several verifiable sources vs. just ranting & raving like the trolls here so often do.
You're welcome bro....facts only facts all these books can be found at least I gave them the possibilities to check their own history as slaves...

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Since: Sep 12

Congo, The Democratic Republic of the

#15061 Apr 11, 2013
Ancient Egyptian said

Slaves, yes, prisoners of war, criminals, all slaves, true but how does it feel to know that you never entered history unless as a slave?

LOL you mofos had to be civilized by the ARABS AND BERBERS LOL
And I love how you just ignore all the evidence proving this

Afrocentrics...a JOKE throughout history

That is why you mofos are trying to steal others history
BECAUSE YOU HAVE NONE HAHAHAHA

KiloEcho replies

Stop spreading the euro-centric or arabo-centric fake version of his-tory of Africa a AA forum.

Hamitic Africans aka Ethiopoid or Horners, the so called elongated Black Africans with thin features, owned and ruled the ancient world

a) in North Africa (Egypt and Mauretania),

b) in Northern Europe as Formorians. Google Formorians and Northern Europe, you will understand the ancient relationship between Northern Europeans and Hamitic Africans.

c) in Western Europe as the Mouros, the legendary pre-Roman times inhabitants who built the megalithic civilization both in North Africa and Western Europe.

d) in the Balkans, in Southern Greece, particularly where very ancient coins (Delphian coins) depict Black Africans. Delphos was a Black African who ruled the region and is immortalized on coins. Black figure pottery gives a hint about black presence in ancient Greece even it is vehemently denied as an artistic convention.

e) in Western Asia, the Ethiopian Empire covered the Arabian peninsula.

you never entered history unless as a slave?!!!!!!! LOL lOL, you must be kidding

Get this in your negrophobic skull

1) The so called Whites are the first slaves in world history, the first slaves in ancient Europe, in ancient North Africa, in ancient Western Asia, ancient India. An entire Roman legion was enslaved in China

2) The Whites were enslaved under different names: Mameluk, Saqaliba, Janissaries, Barbery slaves.

You must be White, no wonder you have been severely brainwashed by Eurocentric fake version of history.

White people, seriously??

What history do you have?

What written language doyou have really?

What whites are good at is going from civilization to civilization burning, stealing and if need be, faking historical artifacts so that you can make claims such as the ignorant about Black Africans you've made above.

You are just mad because you cannot trace your origins to any land. The Whites are aboriginal to nowhere, that is why you keep on exploring and stealing lands from aboriginal populations.

The English language you call your own is a mixture of all languages which Asian, African, and Indian civilizations created.

The Whites are the true savages that's why you spend so much of your lives using false media, false religion trying to paint other races as inferior or backward.

Paul Gaffarel (1843-1920), a scientist and a prolific historian of French descent wrote a wonderful passage on races and world dominance.

Several races seem to have, in turn, exercised world dominance, and been at the forefront of civilization.

The order of succession is now very difficult to determine.

However, the Black race appears to be the first.

The Malays hunted down Blacks in the islands of Polynesia; the Hindus chased them far into the interior of the Deccan and Ceylon.

Blacks are represented in Egyptian monuments and easily recognizable by the color of their skin, snub nose and slanted eyes. They were later replaced by invaders.

THE FINAL TRIUMPH OF OUR RACE (THE WHITE RACE) DATES ONLY FROM THE 16C WHEN NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES WERE DESTROYED OR ABSORBED BY EUROPEANS.

Was Paul Gaffarel, a Afrocentric joke?

He was one of the brighest minds of his generation.

He wrote the truth thas has been hidden or supressed as part of the White Supremacy propaganda.

No one is fooled unless brainwashed in euro-centric or arabo-centric schools or circles.
Jeff

Natick, MA

#15063 Apr 11, 2013
KiloEcho wrote:
Hamitic Africans aka Ethiopoid or Horners, the so called elongated Black Africans with thin features, owned and ruled the ancient world
a) in North Africa (Egypt and Mauretania),
b) in Northern Europe as Formorians. Google Formorians and Northern Europe, you will understand the ancient relationship between Northern Europeans and Hamitic Africans.
c) in Western Europe as the Mouros, the legendary pre-Roman times inhabitants who built the megalithic civilization both in North Africa and Western Europe.
d) in the Balkans, in Southern Greece, particularly where very ancient coins (Delphian coins) depict Black Africans. Delphos was a Black African who ruled the region and is immortalized on coins. Black figure pottery gives a hint about black presence in ancient Greece even it is vehemently denied as an artistic convention.
e) in Western Asia, the Ethiopian Empire covered the Arabian peninsula.
1) The so called Whites are the first slaves in world history, the first slaves in ancient Europe, in ancient North Africa, in ancient Western Asia, ancient India. An entire Roman legion was enslaved in China
2) The Whites were enslaved under different names: Mameluk, Saqaliba, Janissaries, Barbery slaves.
What whites are good at is going from civilization to civilization burning, stealing and if need be, faking historical artifacts so that you can make claims such as the ignorant about Black Africans you've made above.
You are just mad because you cannot trace your origins to any land. The Whites are aboriginal to nowhere, that is why you keep on exploring and stealing lands from aboriginal populations.
The English language you call your own is a mixture of all languages which Asian, African, and Indian civilizations created.
The Malays hunted down Blacks in the islands of Polynesia; the Hindus chased them far into the interior of the Deccan and Ceylon.
Blacks are represented in Egyptian monuments and easily recognizable by the color of their skin, snub nose and slanted eyes. They were later replaced by invaders.
THE FINAL TRIUMPH OF OUR RACE (THE WHITE RACE) DATES ONLY FROM THE 16C WHEN NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES WERE DESTROYED OR ABSORBED BY EUROPEANS.
Stupid assclown with your Afrocentric nonsense, there never was ANY relationship between any "Hamitic black Africans" and Northern Europeans cause there never was any "Hamitic black Africans" in Northern Europe and much of Europe for that matter. Formorians had nothing to do with you Sub Saharan African types. Western Europe was never colonized by any "black African Mouros" and the pre-Roman times inhabitants of Western Europe who built the megalithic civilizations both in Western Europe and Eurasia were Eurasian types. There were no "black Africans" who ever ruled the Balkans, Southern Greece nor were there any 'black African' rulers depicted in ancient coins Black figure pottery or whatever other Afrocentric nonsense you pull out of your ass, neither was there much of black presence in ancient Greece, you stupidass, black people were historically an ANOMALY in those region. Whites are aboriginal to Europe. Europe was predominately since prehistoric times European similar to the people living there today. The English language has NO connection to any AFRICAN nor Asian languages, its Indo-European, you stupidass fool. It doesn't even fall under the same Family Tree with ANY African languages. Western Asia was predominately since prehistoric times Eurasian similar to the people living there today. Slavery was common among people since the beginning of human existence, stupid, and yeah that included MANY black people who were enslaved since prehistoric and ancient times well into the modern world. Neither were there ANY African in the Americas prior to Columbus era, Kilochoasswipe.

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#15064 Apr 11, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
This is a lie 'barros'. Moors were NOT "euroasian". Moors HELPED Iberia and other parts of Spain. No one has been vanquished. Stop the delusions, distortions and thievery of Africa's history.
Still ignoring the evidence, liar?

1. 30k bp remains in the Maghreb: 100% Eurasian
2. all remains since then, all or mostly Eurasian
3. ancient depictions of Berbers as Eurasians
4. Medieval Iberian depictions of Moors as Eurasians

Your crap-talking doesn't override REAL EVIDENCE which you ignore, liar.

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#15065 Apr 11, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
thank you for the authors(as a point of reference)....it's obvious you are working from the framework of several verifiable sources vs. just ranting & raving like the trolls here so often do.
Obviously you ignore evidence in order to maintain your Afronazi racist culture-vulture fantasy.

The Maghreb has been predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years. Now somehow you Afronazi halfwits think if you talk about white slaves in Greece this is somehow meaningful to the discussion. It is not.

Who were the Egyptians enslaving? Whites? The claim that whites were the first slaves is dubious at best. Egypt had slaves before Greek civilization developed.

Most slaves in the Maghreb were black Africans.

How amusing that you Afronazis consistently avoid even thinking about the fact that MUSLIMS took more slaves from Africa than anyone else. LOL!!! There goes your “evil whitey” BS rap, eh?

But, we know what this is all about... sick fantasies of raping pearlybottomed slave girls. You're a pack of perverts.

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Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#15066 Apr 11, 2013
Ilmu Batin wrote:
For Eunuchs western lying propaganda forgot to mention that it was a European tradition already in place in Ancient Greece ( Finley), ancient Rome ( Wallon) and Byzance ( Rotman)... Christian slaves were prepared as eunuchs in France ( Verdun, as shown by Verlinden or Levy Provencal) to be sold in Spain, or prepared as eunuchs in Spain to be sold in Egypt or beyond ( see Phillips).
Once again most of the eunuchs ( like the slaves),in human history were white folks...
There were eunuchs all over and I doubt you have a case that the first one was “white”, though of course you MUST believe that, as thinking that whites were the first slaves is somehow important to you.

That must be because you are nothing but a stinking racist, which makes you subhuman lowlife.

Desperate to rape pearlybottomed slave girls? Too bad, fool, those days are gone. Go back to wanking to black-on-white porn, now.

“Maat's my principle”

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Since: Jan 12

bamako,mali

#15067 Apr 11, 2013
LOL !

Level 5

Since: Sep 12

Congo, The Democratic Republic of the

#15068 Apr 11, 2013
Jeff said

Stupid assclown with your Afrocentric nonsense, there never was ANY relationship between any "Hamitic black Africans" and Northern Europeans cause there never was any "Hamitic black Africans" in Northern Europe and much of Europe for that matter. Formorians had nothing to do with you Sub Saharan African types. Western Europe was never colonized by any "black African Mouros" and the pre-Roman times inhabitants of Western Europe who built the megalithic civilizations both in Western Europe and Eurasia were Eurasian types. There were no "black Africans" who ever ruled the Balkans, Southern Greece nor were there any 'black African' rulers depicted in ancient coins Black figure pottery or whatever other Afrocentric nonsense you pull out of your ass, neither was there much of black presence in ancient Greece, you stupidass, black people were historically an ANOMALY in those region. Whites are aboriginal to Europe. Europe was predominately since prehistoric times European similar to the people living there today. The English language has NO connection to any AFRICAN nor Asian languages, its Indo-European, you stupidass fool. It doesn't even fall under the same Family Tree with ANY African languages. Western Asia was predominately since prehistoric times Eurasian similar to the people living there today. Slavery was common among people since the beginning of human existence, stupid, and yeah that included MANY black people who were enslaved since prehistoric and ancient times well into the modern world. Neither were there ANY African in the Americas prior to Columbus era, Kilochoasswipe.

KiloEcho replies

You can deny, deny but it will not make the truth go awy

Calling me all those names, will not make the truth go away.

The so called Whites are the parvenu race in world history.

Level 5

Since: Sep 12

Congo, The Democratic Republic of the

#15069 Apr 11, 2013
Ancient Egyptian said

It's ok Kiloecho. Just take a chill pill and look up these works a posted in this thread or better yet start learning from sir Bakari about African civilizations.

Black Africans were slave converts of the White berber MOORS...PERIOD!
Next!!

KiloEcho replies

I have already replied to your negrophobic assertions.

No fake whitewashed his-tory version of Africa for me.

It is all BS as part of the White Supremacy or Arab Supremacy propaganda.

As I said many times over, the so called Whites whose homeland is located in the caves of Central Asia (North Pakistan/Aghanistan) have used the ERASE AND REPLACE strategy VERY SUCCESSFULLY in order to lay false claim to lands they invaded and occupied as well as civilizations they did not create.

Act #1: Breed out the orginal inhabitants;
Act #2: Create a fixed mixed race (the paler, the better);
Act #3: Claim their identity;
Act #4: Steal their legacy;
Act #5: Shut out the Natives of all races.

Today the lightest INDIGENOUS North Africans are at best octoroons and quadroons with distant (not so distant) Black African ancestry of the Fulani or Somali type.

The orginal Moors and the true Berbers are dark brown skinned people. Their homeland is in East Africa (Berbera) from where they migrated to Northwest Africa. Their DNA is the e1b haplogroup aka the Somalid haplogroup.

In Euro-centric circles you belong, there are five biggest taboos I would like to list.

1) the racial identity of pre/non Muslim Moors

The truth is that they were described by all accounts as dark brown skinned people of Hamitic stock. They looked no different than the Beja of East Africa.

2) the presence and prestige of dark brown skinned Africans who ruled and excelled in Europe before the Roman Empire, during the Roman Empire and after the Roman Empire.

Those powerful,noble, iconic and legendary Black Africans were well known to ancient and medieval Europeans as early Saints, founders of ancient cities, formidable soldiers, Roman Generals and Emperors, kings and queens, princes and princesses, conquerors, ancient settlers etc.

The best example is the dark brown skinned patron saint of the Holy Roman Empire, Saint Maurice of Egypt.

They are forever remembered in the Moor's head, the head of Black African men and women (many of them crowned) on blazons of cities, dioceses and noble families. The Moor's head used as puns on names like Morrison of Britain, the Mauriac of France, the Morandi of Itali etc.

3) The enslavement of Whites in Africa for thousands of years under different names: the Janissaries, the Mamelukes, the Barbary slaves and the Saqaliba.

Many white looking North Africans are the descendants of Africanized European slaves or the offspring of dark brown skinned Africans and their Eurasian female partners, concubines, wives or sex slaves.

4) the interpretations of the results of genetic studies of the Amazigh people

Fathers: East African men

Mothers: Eurasian women

The intermixing dates back to the Neolithic. What on earth, Eurasian women were doing in Northwest Africa with East African men?

5) the racial identity of the original inhabitants of Europe.

Historians tend to lie for political or ideological reasons but DNA does not lie. The eb1 haplogroup is the third haplogroup in Europe. It originates in East Africa. Yet no European looks like a Somali.

What happened to the Somali looking Europeans?

Were they wiped out during racial conflicts by invading White tribes from Central Asia or were they bred out during intermixing or intermarriage with the Whites?
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#15072 Apr 11, 2013
KiloEcho wrote:
You can deny, deny but it will not make the truth go awy
Calling me all those names, will not make the truth go away.
The so called Whites are the parvenu race in world history.
You are exactly what I said you are: An Afrocentric idiot with an identity crisis and low self esteem issues. Seek mental help for your image problems. You haven't posted any truth, just lies upon lies that make you look even stupider with every post you make.
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#15073 Apr 11, 2013
KiloEcho wrote:
As I said many times over, the so called Whites whose homeland is located in the caves of Central Asia (North Pakistan/Aghanistan) have used the ERASE AND REPLACE strategy VERY SUCCESSFULLY in order to lay false claim to lands they invaded and occupied as well as civilizations they did not create.
Today the lightest INDIGENOUS North Africans are at best octoroons and quadroons with distant (not so distant) Black African ancestry of the Fulani or Somali type.
The orginal Moors and the true Berbers are dark brown skinned people. Their homeland is in East Africa (Berbera) from where they migrat
2) the presence and prestige of dark brown skinned Africans who ruled and excelled in Europe before the Roman Empire, during the Roman Empire and after the Roman Empire.
ons of cities, dioceses and noble families. The Moor's head used as puns on names like Morrison of Britain, the Mauriac of France, the Morandi of Itali etc.
3) The enslavement of Whites in Africa for thousands of years under different names.
The intermixing dates back to the Neolithic. What on earth, Eurasian women were doing in Northwest Africa with East African men?
5) the racial identity of the original inhabitants of Europe.
Historians tend to lie for political or ideological reasons but DNA does not lie. The eb1 haplogroup is the third haplogroup in Europe. It originates in East Africa. Yet no European looks like a Somali.
What happened to the Somali looking Europeans?
Were they wiped out during racial conflicts by invading White tribes from Central Asia or were they bred out during intermixing or intermarriage with the Whites?
More of your Afrocentric lie, KiloEchoASS. Euros are native to Europe. The racial identity of the original inhabitants of Europe was EURASIAN, carriers of Haplogroup I which is STILL common among modern Europeans but NOT common among you blacks. Europe was inhabited long before Neolithic times and by Neolithic times light skin was already FIXED in prehistoric Europeans. The homeland of white people has always been Europe, they have always been the original Homosapien inhabitants of that region. "Dark brown skinned Africans" did not ruled nor excelled in Europe before the Roman Empire, during the Roman Empire nor after the Roman Empire cause Europe was never a native land to black people. Its geographical climate zone was NEVER tropical, its always been NONE tropical cohesive for light skinned Eurasian types. Morrison of Britain, the Mauriac of France, the Morandi of Itali etc. had no connection to any "black Moors". All those European rulers, kings, queens, princesses, etc were as white as their modern European descendants are today, MOORON.There was NOT much of black presence in Europe cause black people were historically an ANOMALY in those regions. Slavery was common among people since the beginning of human existence that included MANY black people who were enslaved since prehistoric and ancient times well into the modern world. The eb1 haplogroup in Europe is the EV13 marker of Eurasian origins, neither East Africans NOR any other Sub Saharan population carries this marker but modern Europeans DO, there never were any 'Somali' looking Europeans. Europeans were Eurasian types, NOT Sub Saharan types. Europe was never a cohesive region for black people like Somalis because of its Low UV Radiation region meaning it was more cohesive for survival for Light skin people like Europeans then for black skin people like Somalis. Christianity started in the Middle East, so early Christians were Middle Eastern people similar to Middle Eastern people today. Nubians were making artwork of Mary and Jesus as light skinned but again you don't want to address that because it exposes your Afrocentric lies. Go learn about history, geography and human evolution because you sound like the biggest idiot around.

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#15074 Apr 11, 2013
This thread has turned into a slave contest. Nyaaa nyaa nyaa nyaa nyaa... you were SLAVES! LOL!!!

Yeah everyone got screwed by someone... that's for sure. 5000 years of patriarchal imperialism. Babylonian Semites along with western Indoeuropeans started this crap.

Gimbutas was right. Pre-Indoeuropean Europe was a PEACEFUL just civilization, or set of related civilizations. Earliest Egypt likewise. But what happened? Infestation of the imperialist set of values...

Now y'all want to argue over who got screwed earliest or most? That is beyond pathetic.
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#15075 Apr 11, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
More of your Afrocentric lie, KiloEchoASS. Euros are native to Europe. The racial identity of the original inhabitants of Europe was EURASIAN, carriers of Haplogroup I which is STILL common among modern Europeans but NOT common among you blacks. Europe was inhabited long before Neolithic times and by Neolithic times light skin was already FIXED in prehistoric Europeans. The homeland of white people has always been Europe, they have always been the original Homosapien inhabitants of that region. "Dark brown skinned Africans" did not ruled nor excelled in Europe before the Roman Empire, during the Roman Empire nor after the Roman Empire cause Europe was never a native land to black people. Its geographical climate zone was NEVER tropical, its always been NONE tropical cohesive for light skinned Eurasian types. Morrison of Britain, the Mauriac of France, the Morandi of Itali etc. had no connection to any "black Moors". All those European rulers, kings, queens, princesses, etc were as white as their modern European descendants are today, MOORON.There was NOT much of black presence in Europe cause black people were historically an ANOMALY in those regions. Slavery was common among people since the beginning of human existence that included MANY black people who were enslaved since prehistoric and ancient times well into the modern world. The eb1 haplogroup in Europe is the EV13 marker of Eurasian origins, neither East Africans NOR any other Sub Saharan population carries this marker but modern Europeans DO, there never were any 'Somali' looking Europeans. Europeans were Eurasian types, NOT Sub Saharan types. Europe was never a cohesive region for black people like Somalis because of its Low UV Radiation region meaning it was more cohesive for survival for Light skin people like Europeans then for black skin people like Somalis. Christianity started in the Middle East, so early Christians were Middle Eastern people similar to Middle Eastern people today. Nubians were making artwork of Mary and Jesus as light skinned but again you don't want to address that because it exposes your Afrocentric lies. Go learn about history, geography and human evolution because you sound like the biggest idiot around.
the Black Madonna is older than any of those "light depictions", but you choose to avoid it.
Jeff

Natick, MA

#15076 Apr 11, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
the Black Madonna is older than any of those "light depictions", but you choose to avoid it.
No it is not, that's medieval eras while light skinned depictions of Madonna that even Nubians painted of the Madonna and child were much older.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#15078 Apr 11, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
No it is not, that's medieval eras while light skinned depictions of Madonna that even Nubians painted of the Madonna and child were much older.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
I know the concept of the Black Madonna goes back to AE. But show a comparison & timeline for the 2 depictions.

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#15081 Apr 11, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
<quoted text>
The oldest known depiction of Madonna and Child
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:VirgenNino....
It's located here at the catacomb of Priscilla.
http://www.catacombepriscilla.com/
I knew sooner or later you Afrocentrics would change gears to these so-called "Black" Madonnas....smh
Next!
They change topics every time evidence is presented which destroys their last lame Afronazi assertion. Black Madonna, originally black Europe, black Inuit, whatever is next, who knows, it jumps around forever to distract from how utterly their Moorish pretenses have been demolished.

MAGHREB: predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years!

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