the moors were black africans not ara...

“Y-DNA * E1b1a / mtDNA * L1c4b”

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#13572 Feb 22, 2013
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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Nothing you presented substantiates any African presence in the Americas. What it substantiates is that Vikings ran into some short natives when they came here and that it is physically possible to sail across the Atlantic Ocean in a boat.
None of this means that Africans were in the Americas before Columbus.
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There is neither evidence of the "Moors" being here in the Americas or any Africans prior to 1492.
Please watch the below videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =2RQM7KHJmeMXX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
And after you get done watching the videos.
...watch them again.
LOL, those vids prove nothings and actually possess the least amount of useful information I've seen thus far.

However, I have discovered and learned something. You are one of two things, you are either a theftpean parading in black face or you're a black skinned white agent. Either way, I believe I will no longer respond to you. Then again, you could be Barros the troll with another account? I'll reiterate, either way, I will no longer respond to you.

“Y-DNA * E1b1a / mtDNA * L1c4b”

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#13573 Feb 23, 2013
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“Y-DNA * E1b1a / mtDNA * L1c4b”

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#13574 Feb 23, 2013
Barros the troll, come out, come out. Where's that DNA evidence? I'm waiting to be punked, but it hasn't happend yet.

Come out, come out, wherever you are. Oh Barros the troll, oh Barros the troll.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#13575 Feb 23, 2013
Jola Atika wrote:
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LOL, those vids prove nothings and actually possess the least amount of useful information I've seen thus far.
However, I have discovered and learned something. You are one of two things, you are either a theftpean parading in black face or you're a black skinned white agent. Either way, I believe I will no longer respond to you. Then again, you could be Barros the troll with another account? I'll reiterate, either way, I will no longer respond to you.
Those videos aren't meant to "prove" anything, because there is nothing that needs to be proven. Every specialist and scientist already knows that the Olmec were Native American.

So do Native Americans.

The videos are just there to show afrocentrists just how silly their nonsense is.
trollslayer

Schererville, IN

#13577 Feb 23, 2013
Jola Atika wrote:
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LOL, those vids prove nothings and actually possess the least amount of useful information I've seen thus far.
However, I have discovered and learned something. You are one of two things, you are either a theftpean parading in black face or you're a black skinned white agent. Either way, I believe I will no longer respond to you. Then again, you could be Barros the troll with another account? I'll reiterate, either way, I will no longer respond to you.
I found no usefulness on the vids either. I mean using ML King as a example made no sense. Those heads represent many different PPL.
You are the 2nd person 2 say this. I hope ur wrong about Bakari. It would be sad if he was a "agent".

go to 4:28
http://www.google.com/url...
motts

Colne, UK

#13579 Feb 23, 2013
Jola Atika wrote:
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Instead of being a smart ass, you should have just answered my question. Ok, you meant ‘physical evidence’.
My understanding of the term evidence is that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof. Sometime that makes plan or clear, an indication or sign. In a court setting, data presented to a court or jury in proof of facts in issue and which may include the testimony of witnesses, records, documents, or objects.
It is agreed that the Vikings discovered America before Columbus, but when the Vikings first reached the Americas they met people who already had been in the Americas for many thousands of years. They met a group of short Africans to whom the Vikings called ‘Skraelings’. The Vikings themselves said the Skraelings looked like African pygmies.
*Oleson, Tryggvi, J.(1963). Early Voyages and Northern Approaches, p. 9. Toronto: McCleeland, and Stewart Limited*
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In the eighteenth century, on one of his voyages, Captain Cook stopped at the tip of South America. Cook said the language of the little people sounded like “so many guttural and clicking sounds.”
*Darwin, C.(1909). The Voyage of the Beagle, pp. 210-211. P.F. Collier and Son: New York.*
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How long would the Africa to South America trip take by boat? To answer this question we shall draw from an experiment conducted by Dr. Allen Bombard in 1964. He was a physician from Liberia. Bombard was well aware of the ocean currents off the African coast that run like conveyor belts to the Americas and back. Without an oar, sail or rudder, he drifted in the current from Africa to the Americas in a documented 52 days.
*Van Sertima, I.(1992). African Presence in Early America, p. 71. New Brunswick, NJ: Transaction Publishers.*
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http://oceanmotion.org/html/impact/conveyor.h...
http://education.nationalgeographic.com/educa...
Bump
Richard

Springfield, NJ

#13580 Feb 23, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
The words raciost trolls can't stand to hear or see.
As usual...the full article is below
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"The measurements show that Lucia was anything but mongoloid," he says.
Then a forensic artist, Richard Neave from the University of Manchester, UK, created a face for Lucia. The result was surprising: "It has all the features of a [email protected] face," says Dr Neave. "
BBC News | Sci/Tech |'First Americans were Australian'
http://www.google.com/url... vm=bv.42768644,d.aWM&cad=r ja
You're an idiot. Look at the title of the article you posted, dingwad:'First Americans were AUSTRALIAN'.

Neave's argument has always been the first Americas were Oceanic like Asians. He even states that he is NOT talking about any trans continental Atlantic travels from Africa by Africans but migrations from Asia by people who were similar to Aboriginal Australians.
Rakhem-Ra

Orlando, FL

#13581 Feb 23, 2013
Pere du Champ wrote:
This is incorrect. The Moors were mostly Berbers. Neither black nor Arab. Among the Moorish armies were black W Africans, and there were Arabs there too... but a MOOR was generally a Berber. Today the Spanish call Moroccans "moros".
The Moors were gradually expelled from Spain, until only the Kingdom of Granada was left to them. They had left over a long period of time, not all at once. Granada fell to the Christians in 1492. A few years later the remaining Muslims in Spain were expelled. They went to North Africa.
The notion that AA are Moors is absurd, but is pushed by a cult or two... who are just as crazy as the Black Hebrews, who are also full of crap.
Learn real history, not this insane cultish nonsense.

The original Moors were COAL BLACK!! They were originally descendants of the Colchis, and if you were to know your history, you would know that the original Moors were not Berbers! In fact the word Moor is a Latin derivative of Moro (meaning) black..I get tired of WASP, White Arabs, and miseducated blacks/whites spreading the mentally cancerous tumors on websites and literature. And let us not confuse Morocco with Mauritania ( both) North African countries, but Mauritania being more NW. The Mauritanian Moors were descendants of Carthaginian and Phoenician warriors, who as you know had these eye witnessed characteristics: woolly hair, thick lips, protruding noses, and black/sable skin. I will leave you with this; " A man without the knowledge of self is like a tree without roots, he can not grow."
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#13582 Feb 23, 2013
Rakhem-Ra wrote:
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The original Moors were COAL BLACK!! They were originally descendants of the Colchis, and if you were to know your history, you would know that the original Moors were not Berbers! In fact the word Moor is a Latin derivative of Moro (meaning) black..I get tired of WASP, White Arabs, and miseducated blacks/whites spreading the mentally cancerous tumors on websites and literature. And let us not confuse Morocco with Mauritania ( both) North African countries, but Mauritania being more NW. The Mauritanian Moors were descendants of Carthaginian and Phoenician warriors, who as you know had these eye witnessed characteristics: woolly hair, thick lips, protruding noses, and black/sable skin. I will leave you with this; " A man without the knowledge of self is like a tree without roots, he can not grow."
DNA taken from ancient Moors and looking at the skulls of ancient Moors show them to be related to modern Moors!

“Y-DNA * E1b1a / mtDNA * L1c4b”

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#13583 Feb 23, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>DNA taken from ancient Moors and looking at the skulls of ancient Moors show them to be related to modern Moors!
DNA taken from ancient Moors? What study was this? Please provide link to the published research article.
moor83

Chicago, IL

#13584 Feb 23, 2013
Rakhem-Ra wrote:
<quoted text>
The original Moors were COAL BLACK!! They were originally descendants of the Colchis, and if you were to know your history, you would know that the original Moors were not Berbers! In fact the word Moor is a Latin derivative of Moro (meaning) black..I get tired of WASP, White Arabs, and miseducated blacks/whites spreading the mentally cancerous tumors on websites and literature. And let us not confuse Morocco with Mauritania ( both) North African countries, but Mauritania being more NW. The Mauritanian Moors were descendants of Carthaginian and Phoenician warriors, who as you know had these eye witnessed characteristics: woolly hair, thick lips, protruding noses, and black/sable skin. I will leave you with this; " A man without the knowledge of self is like a tree without roots, he can not grow."
Carthage and Phoenicia are not in north west Africa. you have to look across the atlantic WEST to find those places. We're having a hard time because we don't know the geography so we're trying to put black people in a place their empires were not stationed

Grand Bassam which in the bible is Bashan was an ancient harbor that allowed Africans to sail west to reach the americas.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#13585 Feb 23, 2013
Rakhem-Ra wrote:
<quoted text>
The original Moors were COAL BLACK!! They were originally descendants of the Colchis, and if you were to know your history, you would know that the original Moors were not Berbers! In fact the word Moor is a Latin derivative of Moro (meaning) black..I get tired of WASP, White Arabs, and miseducated blacks/whites spreading the mentally cancerous tumors on websites and literature. And let us not confuse Morocco with Mauritania ( both) North African countries, but Mauritania being more NW. The Mauritanian Moors were descendants of Carthaginian and Phoenician warriors, who as you know had these eye witnessed characteristics: woolly hair, thick lips, protruding noses, and black/sable skin. I will leave you with this; " A man without the knowledge of self is like a tree without roots, he can not grow."
Knowledge of self? I'm not a Berber and neither of you. But your information is all wrong.

It is already well proven that the Maghreb has been predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years. Most Moors in Iberia were Berbers, not black.

Moor does not mean black. It means Western. It comes from a Phoenician word, not Latin. Phoenicians and Carthaginians were not black.

You're very confused.

But this always happens... I posted eyewitness depictions of Berbers and Moors, showing them to be of Eurasian type, and so here come the sockpuppets full of denial...
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#13586 Feb 23, 2013
Jola Atika wrote:
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DNA taken from ancient Moors? What study was this? Please provide link to the published research article.
Studies of DNA from the Maghreb going back 30,000 years were posted, and you saw them, lying Afronazi sockboy.

You know damned well you have no case, you f'ing fraud.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#13587 Feb 23, 2013
Jola Atika wrote:
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So, even when you're presented with evidence, you say there's no evidence, that's cool and all good.
Please check out the below vid. I find the depictions of the Olmec archaeology to be very interesting. Mainly because I've been to South America and currently, there aren't any people living there that resemble the Olmecs; however, in 'my opinion', the phenotypical correlation to some Africans and African Americans is highly discernible. The wide flat noses, full lips, cheek bone structure etc... Yes, Olmecs are and should be considered 'Native American', but of a very different type to the Asiatic Mongoloid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch... #!
There really aren't that many ethnic groups with these features. There are no so called Native Americans anywhere in the Americas with these features.
I'm currently of the opinion that many so called black people in America, their ancestors did not come to the Americas on a slave ship; I believe they were already in the Americas when the slave ships arrived. That statement is inclusive of Moors as well.
The Olmecs weren't from South America, idiot.

They are already proven by archaeology to have come from soconusco. You have NO proof of any Africans in America.

1. DNA
2. crops
3. boats
4. human remains
5. cultural artifacts
6. disease immunity

Nothing. An empty case.
IDOMA NASI

Woodford Green, UK

#13589 Feb 23, 2013
Most racist are actually victims of White Supremacy. The reason why all learned Historians and Anthropologist who do this for a living! don't just base their findings on Science is because it is rooted in subjective analysis and racial prejudice. Evolution is not a fact and has not been proven! I repeat it is not a fact and has not been proven! I could dismantle the concept so easily but that is not the topic. The reason why I used colours to help demonstrate the different types of people is because it holds ground. We are hue mans as in the hues, different colours. White is a recessive state which demonstrates a genetic breakdown in skin pigmentation! this is not racist it's the truth.
IDOMA NASI

Woodford Green, UK

#13590 Feb 23, 2013
Anyone who looks at a Olmec head knows who that is lol the same with the sphinx. The fact that people would deny something so obvious is a joke. Look at the Mayan calendar which is actually just the Olmec calendar. They have the Kemetic God Bes crafted in the design that shows a link between the two people.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#13591 Feb 23, 2013
IDOMA NASI wrote:
Most racist are actually victims of White Supremacy. The reason why all learned Historians and Anthropologist who do this for a living! don't just base their findings on Science is because it is rooted in subjective analysis and racial prejudice. Evolution is not a fact and has not been proven! I repeat it is not a fact and has not been proven! I could dismantle the concept so easily but that is not the topic. The reason why I used colours to help demonstrate the different types of people is because it holds ground. We are hue mans as in the hues, different colours. White is a recessive state which demonstrates a genetic breakdown in skin pigmentation! this is not racist it's the truth.
You're a halfwit with no education, boy.

Science is objective. It is not based on racism. You are a clown, a raving lunatic who would be laughed out of any university... not that they'd let you in in the first place... cretin.

You know no truth, boy. You know only racism. I'll beat that racism out of you, you lowlife lying piece of shit.

Evolution is amply proven by a mountain of evidence. There is no question about it. Here you demonstrate just what an ass you are, not to be taken seriously, with no knowledge and no sense.

Genetic breakdown? No, moron boy. Light skin is due to evolution, adaptation to environment. You know NOTHING about it.

Piss off, wanker.
trollslayer

Lowell, IN

#13593 Feb 23, 2013
Richard wrote:
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You're an idiot. Look at the title of the article you posted, dingwad:'First Americans were AUSTRALIAN'.
Neave's argument has always been the first Americas were Oceanic like Asians. He even states that he is NOT talking about any trans continental Atlantic travels from Africa by Africans but migrations from Asia by people who were similar to Aboriginal Australians.
look dick...read the whole article thoroughly, b4 coming on here.
"Walter Neves says the [email protected] people disappear 7,000 years ago "
trollslayer

Lowell, IN

#13594 Feb 23, 2013
IDOMA NASI wrote:
Anyone who looks at a Olmec head knows who that is lol the same with the sphinx. The fact that people would deny something so obvious is a joke. Look at the Mayan calendar which is actually just the Olmec calendar. They have the Kemetic God Bes crafted in the design that shows a link between the two people.
Good info.

I just saw a documentary where it said a oil company, years ago, cleared away several Olmec pyramids. It's a shame. I was pizzed
IDOMA NASI

Woodford Green, UK

#13597 Feb 23, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
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You're a halfwit with no education, boy.
Science is objective. It is not based on racism. You are a clown, a raving lunatic who would be laughed out of any university... not that they'd let you in in the first place... cretin.
You know no truth, boy. You know only racism. I'll beat that racism out of you, you lowlife lying piece of shit.
Evolution is amply proven by a mountain of evidence. There is no question about it. Here you demonstrate just what an ass you are, not to be taken seriously, with no knowledge and no sense.
Genetic breakdown? No, moron boy. Light skin is due to evolution, adaptation to environment. You know NOTHING about it.
Piss off, wanker.
You are the fool not me cause you base your life in the hands of scientist not science! Big difference dickface. You claim science is objective I think it depends on the scientist. Were scientist being objective when they claimed Africans where only three fifths of human beings! Were they being objective when the brought about the racist theory of Eugenics! Come on fool grow up. In case you didn't know science is based on things you can observe and test. You have to BELIEVE in Evolution cause no one has ever observed the changing of one species to another 'Macroevolution' therefore it is your religion and your God is probably Charles Darwin who was so smart he thought he could marry his own cousin and have a super stock of kids, lol just check how that ended up. Returning to the topic at hand, the Khemtic God Bes demonstrates a connection between the Olmecs and the Ancient Egyptians this can't be disputed fool.

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