IDOMA NASI

London, UK

#13154 Feb 13, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm entirely in favor of 3rd world development, properous Africa, etc., but your notion that the global capitalist system is falling is nuts. They are not falling anywhere. They still control the world.
If Europe fell it would take the entire world down with it. Would your joy over whitey's poverty be greater than the anguish at seeing many millions in the world starve? Because that is what would happen.
Your idiotic reactionism is useless. You're no revolutionary... you're just another smallminded bigot who sees the world through a clenched sphincter.
The global elite collectively control the world not the individuals living within the countries. Economic slavery is as real as poverty, which by the way is worse now in some places of Europe than it is in some so called third world countries. In case you haven't realised, the recession is still here, job losses and a general decline in the living conditions of millions around the world is as real as ever. I dont avocate the death of others through starvation and famine and ideally we should all have self determination, liberty, and the right to exist. Being pro Black doesnt equate anti white, the Moors helped civilise Europe bringing them out from the dark ages whereas the European powers that came to Africa brought death, disease and corruption. Obviously I am in a reactive state cause of the world im living in. We as a people can't even be proud of are historical achievements cause whites and other white wannabies have bought into the notion of light superioty by way of white people and dark inferiority by way of Black people.
Barros Serrano

Reserve, NM

#13155 Feb 13, 2013
Who Dat wrote:
Everybody by now should know black people was the first humans one earth. Nature has kept parts of the mother country, africa, in many areas tribal and unchanged so that we can witness and understand where we all came from and how all humans came to be at this present time. If we didn't have africa to reflect on we all would be lost sheeps!
True, the first arabs were black, such as from areas as Timbuktu which were the place to be in ancient times. People came from many other countries to be learned men at Timbukto university.
India is another country which were black nubian people and they're still pretty much black just evolution has changed them as it has all races on earth!
Nearly all your historical statements are wrong.

The Chinese DNA study confirmed that Chinese evolved from OOA migrants rather than indigenous Homo erectus. It did not say they were Africans, any more than any other Eurasians. By not understanding that study, you confirm that you are not educated in these matters and are talking out yer ass.

Indians likewise were not “Nubians” or any other Africans, they are 100% OOA migrants just like the Chinese.

Lose the Afronazi cult beliefs and get a real education.
Barros Serrano

Reserve, NM

#13156 Feb 13, 2013
IDOMA NASI wrote:
<quoted text>
The global elite collectively control the world not the individuals living within the countries. Economic slavery is as real as poverty, which by the way is worse now in some places of Europe than it is in some so called third world countries. In case you haven't realised, the recession is still here, job losses and a general decline in the living conditions of millions around the world is as real as ever. I dont avocate the death of others through starvation and famine and ideally we should all have self determination, liberty, and the right to exist. Being pro Black doesnt equate anti white, the Moors helped civilise Europe bringing them out from the dark ages whereas the European powers that came to Africa brought death, disease and corruption. Obviously I am in a reactive state cause of the world im living in. We as a people can't even be proud of are historical achievements cause whites and other white wannabies have bought into the notion of light superioty by way of white people and dark inferiority by way of Black people.
I was agreeing until you got to the Moors, and started spewing the usual idiotic Afronazi cliches. The Moors did not “civilize” Europe, which had had civilization going back to 5000 bc. Spain was “civilized” when the Moors arrived. Cities, writing, a central government, distinct social classes, a priesthood... it was CIVILIZED.

The notion of any “race” even existing as a “race” is erroneous, and certainly racial superiority is a crock of shit. The reality of African civilizations and history should indeed be revealed. That doesn't mean you can go about randomly claiming every damn people on earth!

Face it, most Moors were non-black Berbers. At least the Moors in the Maghreb and Iberia. In Timbuktu no doubt most of them were black. The Hebrews were not black. The Olmecs were not Africans. The Chinese were not black. And so on.
Barros Serrano

Reserve, NM

#13157 Feb 13, 2013
Jake, you're at LEAST as f'ed up in the head as any Afronazi in here. You're wasting space with that racist drivel, boy!!!

How deluded must an Afronazi be to deny the very solid and obvious FACT that the Maghreb has been predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years? The Iberians drew pictures of the “Moors” who were parasitizing them, and the vast majority of them were of Eurasian type!

Whence this obsession that the Moors all be black? LOL... I have correctly identified it, I think... the fantasy desire to rape pearlybottomed slave girls! That's what it amounts to.

Level 2

Since: May 11

El Monte, CA

#13158 Feb 13, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
Nearly all your historical statements are wrong.
The Chinese DNA study confirmed that Chinese evolved from OOA migrants rather than indigenous Homo erectus. It did not say they were Africans, any more than any other Eurasians. By not understanding that study, you confirm that you are not educated in these matters and are talking out yer ass.
Indians likewise were not “Nubians” or any other Africans, they are 100% OOA migrants just like the Chinese.
Lose the Afronazi cult beliefs and get a real education.
Its many resemblance in Egypy in India culture. The sacred cow worship. As in Angkor Wat how the temple lay out is similiar to Egypt Temple layout in position as constellations like Giza while in there architecture but capped off triangular style. Even found and ancient India Statue with the horn headress like Hathor of Egypt.

We know the Adaman, Pygmoid track there and mingle with Aboriginals but also lets not forget Ethiopians going there in ancient times and more recent ancient times.

Now I havent forgot other races coming in later like Aryans,Arabs,and Orientals but the other where there first.
trollslayer

Tinley Park, IL

#13159 Feb 13, 2013
how could europe have been civilized. it's been reported that some of 'em went months without taking baths. The queen(england) took a bath once a month.
The Moors HAD set up over 700 bath houses.
trollslayer

Tinley Park, IL

#13160 Feb 13, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
how could europe have been civilized. it's been reported that some of 'em went months without taking baths. The queen(england) took a bath once a month.
The Moors HAD set up over 700 bath houses.
oh sure europe was civilized, but didn't even have bath houses...lol. My non-troll friends, don't take my word, look it up, it's TRUE.
Jake

Bronx, NY

#13161 Feb 13, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
how could europe have been civilized. it's been reported that some of 'em went months without taking baths. The queen(england) took a bath once a month.
The Moors HAD set up over 700 bath houses.
Bathhouses? You knnneeee ggggrrrrooossss still live like primitives in the jungle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Kkkkknnnnnneeeeee gggggrrrroooosss version of a "Space Programs", What a joke! lol
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/5483100...
trollslayer

Tinley Park, IL

#13162 Feb 13, 2013
" 1300-1700 C.E.—>the Renaissance. Bathing takes a nose dive! New ideas about bathing blame it for sickness. It was thought that filth protected the body.

Only dry towels were used to rub the body. Fleas, and public filth, however, contributed to outbreaks of the plague which periodically swept through Europe, eventually killing at least a third of all people. Bathing makes a slow recovery.

Queen Elizabeth I took a bath once a month "whether she needed it or not."

One bright note, people began to cart their excrement away rather than throw it in the streets. This helped to cut down on cholera and other epidemics. Link to a woodcut of London during the Plague, and an excerpt of the diary of Samuel Pepys. "
Jake

Bronx, NY

#13163 Feb 13, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
" 1300-1700 C.E.—>the Renaissance. Bathing takes a nose dive! New ideas about bathing blame it for sickness. It was thought that filth protected the body.
Only dry towels were used to rub the body. Fleas, and public filth, however, contributed to outbreaks of the plague which periodically swept through Europe, eventually killing at least a third of all people. Bathing makes a slow recovery.
Queen Elizabeth I took a bath once a month "whether she needed it or not."
One bright note, people began to cart their excrement away rather than throw it in the streets. This helped to cut down on cholera and other epidemics. Link to a woodcut of London during the Plague, and an excerpt of the diary of Samuel Pepys. "
Bathhouses? You knnneeee ggggrrrrooossss still live like primitives in the jungle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Kkkkknnnnnneeeeee gggggrrrroooosss version of a "Space Programs", What a joke! lol
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/5483100...
trollslayer

Tinley Park, IL

#13164 Feb 13, 2013
motts wrote:
This is the way to defeat eurocentrics, by using their own sources, as all pictures and paintings were done by Europeans along with the flags, paintings and the coat of arms, during the middle ages. They will try to debate it but they cannot argue with their own WHITE EUROPEAN people.
Many Europeans accept that THE Moors were Black, and look at these statues all over WHITE EUROPE!
THE MOORS WHO CONQUERED AND CIVILISED EUROPE
Moor figure in sanssouci potsdam, Germany
http://wikimapia.org/17270480/Moorish-Rondell...
Moor figure in scauffhausen, Switzerland (copy and paste, all one link)
http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/infra_anlagen...
Another image of a Black Moor can be seen on the Coat of Arms of His Holiness Benedict XVI.:
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xv...
The following link show a statue of BLACK AFRICAN MOORS in Venice Italy
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-83388826/stoc...
Moor sculpture in Memmingen, Germany
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memmin...
The Coburg Moor
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zsenya/499998250...
St. Mauritius the Moor
http://www.taneter.org/moors.html
A MOOR on the COAT OF ARMS of CORSICA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arm...
4 MOORS on the COAT OF ARMS of SARDINIA
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coats_of_ar...
Image of Gannibal the Moor of St Petersburg
http://bulletsandhoney.wordpress.com/2005/08/...
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trollslayer

Tinley Park, IL

#13165 Feb 13, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
Nazlet Khater man was the earliest modern human skeleton found near Luxor, in 1980. The remains was dated from between 35,000 and 30,000 years ago.

The report regarding the racial affinity of this skeleton concludes: "Strong alveolar prognathism combined with fossa praenasalis in an African skull is suggestive of Negr@id morphology [form & structure]. The radio-humeral index of Nazlet Khater is practically the same as the mean of Taforalt (76.6). According to Ferembach (1965) this value is near to the Negr@id average.
" The burial was of a young man of 17-20 years old, whose skeleton lay in a 160cm- long narrow ditch aligned from east to west. A flint tool, which was laid carefully on the bottom of the grave, dates the burial as contemporaneous with a nearby flint quarry. The morphological features of the Nazlet Khater skeleton were analysed by Thoma (1984).

The 35,000 year old skeleton was examined using multivariate statistical procedures. In the first part, principal components analysis is performed on a dataset of mandible dimensions of 220 fossils, sub-fossils and modern specimens, ranging in time from the Late Pleistocene to recent and restricted in space to the African continent and Southern Levant.---Thoma A., Morphology and Affinities of the Nazlet Khater Man; Journal of Human Evolution, vol. 13, 1984
__________
Draw your own conclusions.
Draw your own conclusions.
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#13167 Feb 13, 2013
James David Manning ....this guy is a total ignoramus.
pn2cladelover

Bristol, UK

#13168 Feb 13, 2013
Neelix and Kes wrote:
All one must do to bust this silly myth is to look at history, and you will realise that it is IMPOSSIBLE not unlikely but IMPOSSIBLE that the Moorish people were black. The Moors are the result of the Berber Arab people of North Africa converting to Islam after Middle Eastern Arabic missionaries spread Islam to the Berbers, these two peoples Berbers and Middle Eastern muslims became the Moors. Throughout history black people NEVER had steel weapons or armour, no boats that could carry soildiers, no maps, no use of the wheel, no cavalry (meaning soldiers on beasts) no siege weapons and no undrstanding of the world outside of their continent (even saying outside of their continent would be VERY generous to say) How could they have been black if they originated in the North of Africa?
Lets just say they were black, how could they reach Sicilly, Spain, Portugal and Southern France with no sailing ships (let alone anything sea worthy) to carry 1000's or more likely 10 000's of soldiers and their equipment (weapons and provisions)? How could they CONQUER areas of these lands with their stone and wood weapons going up against, steel weapons and armour, cavalry with lances, steel tipped arrows, swords, pikes and the military skills and tactics of ALL THESE ARMIES? How?...how?
Let's look at Africa for a moment, why is it that the only great structures, monuments and cities are in the North of Africa, the non black Arabian part of Africa? North Africa is cheifly dry, arid, desert. Howcome NO EMPIRES thrived in the fertile, resource rich, plentiful black part of the continent.
The race for Africa was the scramble for plentiful natural resources by European powers into the BLACK part of Africa. The Moors were NOT black PERIOD!
This black man with a PHD doctorate
discusses the problem of the black race and why they never had a society. When he says "Egypt is not Africa" he is cleary saying that North Africans are NOT black people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
so you saying even the moors who were from SENEGAL were not black??????

whats your reply
Barros Serrano

Reserve, NM

#13171 Feb 13, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
Draw your own conclusions.
Meaningless to this discussion. Irrelevant... as is always any evidence you attempt to bring, fool.

That is in Egypt. We all know there were black people in Egypt. And so yet again pfffft.

You're a pathetic pseudo-intellectual misfit.
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#13172 Feb 13, 2013
KiloEcho wrote:
"Neelix and Kes said
Everyone needs to accept that it is IMPOSSIBLE not unlikely but IMPOSSIBLE that the Moorish people were black.
The Moors were NOT black PERIOD!
KiloEcho replies
Repeating the same lies over and over again will not make the truth go away.
Colonial and neo-colonial rethoric of whitewashing the Moors into non Black dark Caucasians will not do it either.
The word moor is a European word used by ancient and medieval Europeans originally for the Mauri (inhabitants of Mauretania) and Ethiopians and later generalized for ALL BLACK Africans.
The original Moors were Black Africans, that is, dark brown skinned people of Hamitic stock The Moors were called as such by the dark haired and olive skinned Romans and Greeks because of their dark brown skin color compared to their own skin color. They looked exactly like the Beja of East Africa and/or the Fulani of West Africa.
In Greek and in Latin, everything or everyone of a dark brown skin color was called Maurus, Mauros, which became Maure or More in French and Moor in English.
Even today, scientific names for plants and animal of a dark brown or black color contained the word: maurus. http://www.ubio.org/browser/search.php...
Further proof of the true definition of the Latin term "Maurus" can be found in early English-Latin dictionaries:
- "Maurus" was synonymous with "Moor," "negro," and "Aethiops" in John Etick's A new English-Latin dictionary (1783)
The English term "Moor" also meant "Black" in English dictionaries and encyclopaediae prior to the 20th century:
- "Moor" meant "negro" or "black-a-moor" in A Dictionary of the English Language (1768) by Samuel Johnson
- The Encyclopaedia Londinensis (1817) by John Wilkes lists "moor" as follows: "[maurus, Lat. &#956;&#945;&#965; &#961;&#959;, Gr., black.] a negro; a blackamoor."
- John Olgilvie's The Imperial Dictionary of the English Language (1882), a Moor was a "black man or negro"
If you negrophobic Whites like you really would like to know what the Moors look like, go to Italy, Spain and other European countries look at the statues, paintings, frescoes and flags which were created LONG before racist arguments against Black African existed.
The Moors are definitely not white. They very black or very dark in color. Their haplogroup is the e1b haplogroup, which originates in East Africa and is known as the Somalid haplogroup. They passed down their genes to their descendants in Afrca, in Europe and West Asia.
Let face it, the powerful, noble, iconic and legendary Black Africans known as Moors by ancient and medieval Europeans ruled and excelled in Europe as early settlers, founders of ancient cities, conquerors, formidable soldiers, Roman Emperors and Generals, catholic saints, popes etc.
When the Moors joined Muslim forces, they enslaved millions of Europeans and dozens of American sailors during piratical attacks on ships and coastal areas. As part of the Islamic civilization, the Moors contributed to the renaissance of Europe.
The Moors are forever remembered in the Moor's head, the head of Black African men or women as heraldic symbol. Please google Moor's head, and you will see hundreds of pictures of Black Africans represented on blazons of European cities, dioceses and noble families.
They have VERY little in common (except for the color of skin and continent of origin) with jungle/bush Black Africans called Negroes by Europeans who enslaved and colonized them for centuries.
If the Moors were not Black Africans, why on earth, Europeans developed the following old expressions
Black as a Moor, hence, blackamoor
The Black Madonna, aka La Madona Mora
The Blackfaced Moor
The Moor has done his duty, the Moor may go
Gannibal, the Moor of Peter the Great
Othello, the Moor of Venice
King Coffee of the Morris Dance
Moor's head crystals (with black tips), Moor's head cheese (with a black crust), Moor's head color (dark brown color)
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“Y-DNA * E1b1a / mtDNA * L1c4b”

Level 2

Since: Jul 12

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#13173 Feb 13, 2013
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#13174 Feb 14, 2013
Austria

Abfaltersbach

" The coat of arms of Abfaltersbach, a small town in the southern Austrian alps, is unique because in the way in which the Moor is portrayed.

Holding the olive branch symbolizes peace--a direct contradiction to any false legend claiming these Moors were the heads of the captives or enemies.

The combining of the head with the lion's body can be traced to the sphinxes of Egypt and the Nubian lion god of Dedun. It's worth mentioning that the lion's body is depicted in a similar manner to those found on the coats of arms of European royalty as well as the government of Morocco."
Jake

Bronx, NY

#13176 Feb 14, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
Austria
Abfaltersbach
" The coat of arms of Abfaltersbach, a small town in the southern Austrian alps, is unique because in the way in which the Moor is portrayed.
Holding the olive branch symbolizes peace--a direct contradiction to any false legend claiming these Moors were the heads of the captives or enemies.
The combining of the head with the lion's body can be traced to the sphinxes of Egypt and the Nubian lion god of Dedun. It's worth mentioning that the lion's body is depicted in a similar manner to those found on the
coats of arms of European royalty as well as the government of Morocco."
Kknnneee ggggrrrooo shut up with your lies. You kknnneee ggggrrrrooosss  do not have the intelligence to rule modern advance countries that is why Africa is the undeveloped shithole it is today and that is why kkkknneee gggrrrooss die like drowned rats to reach the modern advanced countries of YT in the West. Undeveloped black Africa the shithole of the world, that is why every place you infest are undeveloped shitholes like Haiti or black Africa where you primitives still live like you are stuck in the stoneages.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

You knneegrooos talk about being so great and powerful outside your kkknnneeee gggggrrroooo lands in Africa and in countries where you
kneegroos never really had a presence but in your kneegroos lands you still live in mud huts. What's wrong, why can't you pull black Africa into the modern ages and there are kknnneee gggrrrrosss there still living in mud huts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

You Kneegroos like to claim you are the "oldest" humans around and that Europeans are the youngest humans on Earth yet the industrial revolution that ushered in the modern ages was all YTs doing. YTs have colonized most of the planets and YTs descendants walked on the Moon. ALL major modern mathematical, technological and scientific accomplishments in the last few hundred years have come from our European ancestors and their
YT descendants. Knneeegroos were in the stone age when we found you and many still are today. Africa is the only continent where you can go almost anywhere and still find people living in mud huts and unable to feed themselves. Blacks achieve NOTHING of any consequence in the world today. You kneegroos still are primitives living in mud huts, the modern ages has passed you kneegroos right by. Shithole black Africa always a
shithole, OoooongaNoooognaaaBamboon. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch...  

Kkkkknnnnnneeeeee gggggrrrroooosss version of a "Space Programs", What a joke! lol
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/5483100...

“Y-DNA * E1b1a / mtDNA * L1c4b”

Level 2

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#13177 Feb 14, 2013
Jake wrote:
<quoted text>
Kknnneee ggggrrrooo shut up with your lies. You kknnneee ggggrrrrooosss  do not have the intelligence to rule modern advance countries that is why Africa is the undeveloped shithole it is today and that is why kkkknneee gggrrrooss die like drowned rats to reach the modern advanced countries of YT in the West. Undeveloped black Africa the shithole of the world, that is why every place you infest are undeveloped shitholes like Haiti or black Africa where you primitives still live like you are stuck in the stoneages.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =M634oLOP2pgXX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
You knneegrooos talk about being so great and powerful outside your kkknnneeee gggggrrroooo lands in Africa and in countries where you
kneegroos never really had a presence but in your kneegroos lands you still live in mud huts. What's wrong, why can't you pull black Africa into the modern ages and there are kknnneee gggrrrrosss there still living in mud huts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
You Kneegroos like to claim you are the "oldest" humans around and that Europeans are the youngest humans on Earth yet the industrial revolution that ushered in the modern ages was all YTs doing. YTs have colonized most of the planets and YTs descendants walked on the Moon. ALL major modern mathematical, technological and scientific accomplishments in the last few hundred years have come from our European ancestors and their
YT descendants. Knneeegroos were in the stone age when we found you and many still are today. Africa is the only continent where you can go almost anywhere and still find people living in mud huts and unable to feed themselves. Blacks achieve NOTHING of any consequence in the world today. You kneegroos still are primitives living in mud huts, the modern ages has passed you kneegroos right by. Shithole black Africa always a
shithole, OoooongaNoooognaaaBamboon. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch...  
Kkkkknnnnnneeeeee gggggrrrroooosss version of a "Space Programs", What a joke! lol
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/5483100...
Over and over again, the same ole thing....yawn....boring!

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