the moors were black africans not ara...
mikemike

Vancouver, WA

#9492 Sep 22, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
You babble cliches and don't know what the F you're ralking about, boy!
33 1/3º of knowledge, lol!!! You couldn't pass 8th grade, boy!
you sound like a whining 3 grader,who cant put 2and2 together, uncle taco
mikemike

Vancouver, WA

#9493 Sep 22, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
You cowardly racist boy. Why don't you address the data posted by Curious about the 30,000 yr old Eurasian DNA in the Maghreb? Eh, coward boy?
LOL... you are all proven WRONG. You are full of $hit. You have nothing.
And I may just post some more links, more DNA and human remains from the Maghreb, all predominantly Eurasian... yes, you lose.
Most Moors = non-black Berbers. That is proven fact. You have nothing. This subject is concluded.
GET your grubby greasy AFRONAZI racist culture-vulture PAWS off other peoples' CULTURES, you vile lowlife culturally-deprived decrepit Afro-whitey Yank 3-in-1 bastards!
where's the link uncle taco,the planet could not tolerate 30,000 year's of the european's destruction you stupid fool ignorant bastard
Motts

Bridgetown, Barbados

#9494 Sep 22, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
You're not a Moor, boy. You're an Afro-whitey Yank.
The Berber and Tuareg Moors were raping and enslaving your yam-farming W African ancestors, boy.
You're also not a Hebrew, Viking, Chinese, Phoenician, Carthaginian, Olmec, or Frosty the Snowman.
You're right...I'm a Black man from Barbados!!!

Check these out!!

Moor figure in sanssouci potsdam, Germany
http://wikimapia.org/17270480/Moorish-Rondell...

Moor figure in scauffhausen, Switzerland (copy and paste, all one link)
http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/infra_anlagen...

Moor sculpture in Memmingen, Germany
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memmin...

The Coburg Moor
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zsenya/499998250...

St. Mauritius the Moor
http://www.taneter.org/moors.html

A MOOR on the COAT OF ARMS of CORSICA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arm...

4 MOORS on the COAT OF ARMS of SARDINIA
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coats_of_ar...
Image of Gannibal the Moor of St Petersburg

http://bulletsandhoney.wordpress.com/2005/08/...

The contributions of the Moors will forever be remembered through Moor's heads which appear all over Europe--as paintings, statues, and on the official coats of arms (and flags) of municipalities, religious groups, and noble families. It's important to note the Europeans often portrayed Moors in a positive light -- often adorning them with crowns and jewellery. Just copy and paste the link and see how esteemed the Black Moors were to European Royalty.
http://www.taneter.org/moorsheads.html
Motts

Bridgetown, Barbados

#9495 Sep 22, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
Contemporary depictions by Iberians show the Moors as overwhelmingly non-black Berbers. The few blacks present were often obviously slaves.
I think the Spanish and Portuguese who actually SAW and interacted with the filthy parasitic bastard Moors knew what they looked like.
Yes, most were non-black Berbers. The original invaders were mostly from Morocco and Algeria. Tariq was white.
You're an Afro-whitey Yank with no culture, boy. Deal with that.
Yeah, they knew what they looked like alright!!

THE SPANISH KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE WHAT THE MOORS LOOKED LIKE

&fe ature=watch_response
mikemike

Vancouver, WA

#9496 Sep 22, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
You cowardly racist boy. Why don't you address the data posted by Curious about the 30,000 yr old Eurasian DNA in the Maghreb? Eh, coward boy?
LOL... you are all proven WRONG. You are full of $hit. You have nothing.
And I may just post some more links, more DNA and human remains from the Maghreb, all predominantly Eurasian... yes, you lose.
Most Moors = non-black Berbers. That is proven fact. You have nothing. This subject is concluded.
GET your grubby greasy AFRONAZI racist culture-vulture PAWS off other peoples' CULTURES, you vile lowlife culturally-deprived decrepit Afro-whitey Yank 3-in-1 bastards!
a 30,000 year old eurasin walking around in n.africa,you need to be infront of a firing squad,for being STUPID
Motts

Bridgetown, Barbados

#9497 Sep 22, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a MOORon. Like the pun?
Yeah, love it!!

Do you love these beautiful black statues??

Some lovely Black Moors statues. OOOOOOOH! Aren't they BEAUTIFUL!!
(Copy and paste-all one link)
http://www.google.com/search...

Paintings and depictions of black moors-(Copy and paste-all one link)
http://www.google.com/search...

Level 4

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#9498 Sep 22, 2012
Derek wrote:
Afrocentrics are brainwashed beyond repair. Most of the Moors were not black to begin with, they were North African Berbers. You delusional high school drop outs keep posting all these statues from post medieval times created by people who never saw a Moor in their entire life and try to pass them off as your "ancestors" only shows how delusional you all are. Moors were North Africans, they had absolutely nothing to do with your West African ancestors who were sold as slaves to the white men by other Africans. Heck even the Moors got rich from selling your black ancestors. You guys claim to be well read but your posts show other wise. Go read Diop's chapter titled "historical reminder: moroccan invasion of west africa" where he emphasizes how the Moors invaded, destroyed and sold sub Saharan Africans into slavery to the point that you guys still haven't recovered from. Your ancestors were not Moors, they were the West and Central Africans sold as slaves by Moors and other Africans to the white men. 
You are a leper a mutation of the African people, and don't know what the hell you're talking about, there may have been some of the lepers claiming to be Moors and Berbers AFTER they were trained and came out of the caves, they probably stole that culture like they did all the others they stole, because your race have no culture of their own. You like the rest of you dog race love to talk about slavery, yes our ancestors were sold into slavery, the Bible foretold of that, being a curse for disobedience, but your race had a curse of a different kind, the plague of leprosy that turned their brown skin white, YOU read Leviticus 13&14, and II Kings 5:27. W e may have been slaves but we were never lepers that slept with dogs crawling around the caves of the caucasus mountains. That's what you are you dog haired lice baby, you're a delusional mutant that has been taught twisted history and lies all your life, but we're here to tell the truth.

“Maat's my principle”

Level 9

Since: Jan 12

bamako,mali

#9499 Sep 22, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
And so, BOY, why don't you deal with the irrefutable data of 30,000 yr old Eurasian DNA in the Maghreb, eh? Careful or I'll start posting the citations to all the physical remains and MORE genome studies, ALL confirming the predominantly Eurasian character of the Maghreb for 30,000 years.
You're not a Moor, boy. You're not a Jew. You're not a Viking. You're not Frosty the Snowman. You're just a suntanned redneck 2% black insecure self-hating piece of crap still vibrating from being called whitey and casper by the black kids in high school.
Shut the F up, BOY.
get on you tube and watch the damn doc !
mikemike

Vancouver, WA

#9500 Sep 22, 2012
Motts wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right...I'm a Black man from Barbados!!!
Check these out!!
Moor figure in sanssouci potsdam, Germany
http://wikimapia.org/17270480/Moorish-Rondell...
Moor figure in scauffhausen, Switzerland (copy and paste, all one link)
http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/infra_anlagen...
Moor sculpture in Memmingen, Germany
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memmin...
The Coburg Moor
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zsenya/499998250...
St. Mauritius the Moor
http://www.taneter.org/moors.html
A MOOR on the COAT OF ARMS of CORSICA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arm...
4 MOORS on the COAT OF ARMS of SARDINIA
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coats_of_ar...
Image of Gannibal the Moor of St Petersburg
http://bulletsandhoney.wordpress.com/2005/08/...
The contributions of the Moors will forever be remembered through Moor's heads which appear all over Europe--as paintings, statues, and on the official coats of arms (and flags) of municipalities, religious groups, and noble families. It's important to note the Europeans often portrayed Moors in a positive light -- often adorning them with crowns and jewellery. Just copy and paste the link and see how esteemed the Black Moors were to European Royalty.
http://www.taneter.org/moorsheads.html
burrio's here to argue,he has very little knowledge he's still ranting foolishness about hahaha a 30,000 year old white man walking around in n.africa,in my son 1 grade classroom his teacher never mention's this fairy=tale, no archegologist mention's his finding of this farce 30,000 year old whiteman
Motts

Bridgetown, Barbados

#9501 Sep 22, 2012
Derek wrote:
<quoted text>
An that explains why you are highly uneducated, you kept falling asleep in classes. Even Diop who one most defiantly would not label as a "Eurocentric" has shown Moors had nothing to do with your West and Central African ancestors and that Moors played an important role in not only enslaving your Sub Saharan African ancestors but such a big role in the down fall of black Africa. Go read his chapter that talks about this. You guys claim to be well read but your posts show other wise. Go read Diop's chapter titled "historical reminder: moroccan invasion of west africa" where he emphasizes how the Moors invaded, destroyed and sold sub Saharan Africans into slavery to the point that you guys still haven't recovered from.
Your ancestors were not Moors, they were the West and Central Africans sold as slaves by Moors and other Africans to the white men.
WEEP! WEEP! WEEP!

I just love these Moor images, they take my breath away...

THE MAJESTY OF THE BLAK MAN IN WHITE EUROPE

Moor figure in sanssouci potsdam, Germany
http://wikimapia.org/17270480/Moorish-Rondell...

Moor figure in scauffhausen, Switzerland (copy and paste, all one link)
http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/infra_anlagen...

Moor sculpture in Memmingen, Germany
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memmin...

The Coburg Moor
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zsenya/499998250...

St. Mauritius the Moor
http://www.taneter.org/moors.html

A MOOR on the COAT OF ARMS of CORSICA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arm...

4 MOORS on the COAT OF ARMS of SARDINIA
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coats_of_ar...
Image of Gannibal the Moor of St Petersburg

http://bulletsandhoney.wordpress.com/2005/08/...
Motts

Bridgetown, Barbados

#9502 Sep 22, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
Damn you are stupid. I lived in Spain, you jackass. I did not see anyone who looked black except African immigrants.
Since most Moors were non-black Berbers, and they left, in fact, little DNA behind, you have no case. Keep in mind that all Muslims were expelled from Spain (excellent idea!!! someone tell this to Michigan and England!) in the early 16th century. They took their DNA with them, for the most part.
DNA in Spain which is identified as having entered in the Medieval period is overwhelmingly that of non-black Maghrebian Berbers.
Yes, you Afronazis lose. Most Moors were not black, the Maghreb has been predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years, we have already posted all the evidence proving this, and you wannabe-Moor self-hating Afro-whitey Yanks have NOTHING, boy!
Sounds like the usual bull from Barros

Grab some popcorn and enjoy a history lesson..

Moors in Europe 2: Germany and the Holy Roman Empire



Moors in Europe 3: Who was that Head-Banded Man?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

The Heralded Moors
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Blacks Moors Ruled at one time in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

The BLACK Moorish Artifacts Speak for themselves (LISTEN CAREFULLY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

THE SPANISH KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE WHAT THE MOORS LOOKED LIKE

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Moors in Europe - Black Gold
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

100's of BLACK negro Moors Images in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Level 5

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#9503 Sep 22, 2012
trollslayer wrote:
100's of BLACK negro Moors Images in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =R8-s9r19rSwXX&feature=cha nnel&list=UL
These images are not Black...there're 'white-a-moors' dressed up like blacks....right?
The guy on youtube is a staunch afrocentrist. All he does is show depcitions of blacks around Europe labeled as Moors. But he doesn't explain that moor was a loose term in Europe and at one time refered to anyone dark or foreign irrespective of the actual moors of Spain. He is careful not to show any depictions of Moors that are not black which abound in Spain. Like this coat of arms right here,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

Again here is big portriat of your moorish kings smack dab in the heart of the Alahambra palace in Granada.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XM0kldCydDY/T5mflQf...

Apparenlty folks in Spain didn't think the moors were so Black.

I really wish one of you brainless cowardly fcks would have the balls to actually address this and stop hiding behind your amateurish youtube videos.

Also you will notice that after the 18th century when Europeans became more familiar with Africa people stopped using the word Moor to refer to Blacks when the confusion cleared up and used the Spanish term negro while the Spanish themselves reserved the term Moor for lighter skinned North africans.

Level 4

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#9504 Sep 22, 2012
Derek wrote:
Afrocentrics are brainwashed beyond repair. Most of the Moors were not black to begin with, they were North African Berbers. You delusional high school drop outs keep posting all these statues from post medieval times created by people who never saw a Moor in their entire life and try to pass them off as your "ancestors" only shows how delusional you all are. Moors were North Africans, they had absolutely nothing to do with your West African ancestors who were sold as slaves to the white men by other Africans. Heck even the Moors got rich from selling your black ancestors. You guys claim to be well read but your posts show other wise. Go read Diop's chapter titled "historical reminder: moroccan invasion of west africa" where he emphasizes how the Moors invaded, destroyed and sold sub Saharan Africans into slavery to the point that you guys still haven't recovered from. Your ancestors were not Moors, they were the West and Central Africans sold as slaves by Moors and other Africans to the white men. 
And OAN, you are the ones brainwashed beyond repair, you've been taught that you are a superior being, and as far as I know to be superior you have to be stronger in every way, first you have recessive genes which makes you weaker, you can't produce anything but white, there's no way you can produce Black or Brown skinned people, but it's been proven that Black AND Brown can produce white, it's called Albinism, and then there's leprosy. You are a genetically weak and mutated race, and you are better than no one. You're as low as the stinking dogs with which you share DNA, JUST LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND AT YOUR HAIR TO PROVE THAT ONE. And if you don't want to hear this, GO AWAY, you and others like you just come here to cause trouble, which you are so good at, and spread your misinformation, that's really what you people do best, destroy anything peaceful that we have you mess that up. DEVILS
Barros Serrano

United States

#9505 Sep 22, 2012
mikemike wrote:
<quoted text>a 30,000 year old eurasin walking around in n.africa,you need to be infront of a firing squad,for being STUPID
DAMN are you this stupid or what?

The evidence exists for this! Human remains analyzed morphologically were virtually identical to early European Cro-Magnon! Now, if that is not f'ing clear enough for you, in addition, and for this Curious just posted the data:

The DNA of those remains is EURASIAN! The mtDNA is U6. Now must I give you a lesson on basic haplotypes? I'm not a geneticist, I can't remember the numbers of every allele nor do I understand the biochem of it entirely, however, I understand basic genetic principles, and especially the relationships of various mtDNA and Y types which are used to trace human migrations and relationships. My field is anthropology.

Ok, archaeological and genetic evidence AGREES that 30,000 years ago people of Eurasian (Mideastern) type were in the Maghreb.

So what shall we do now... you will continue to pretend that evidence doesn't exist?

I already in the past posted the links right to the scientific articles, in peer-reviewed journals, showing several things:

1. Eurasian U6 DNA 30k yrs ago in the Maghreb
2. Eurasian morphological characteristics of the 30k yr old remains
3. results of several genome analyses over the 30k yr period, all of which showing predominant Eurasian ancestry
4. earliest black African presence in the Maghreb was 20k yrs ago, resulting in an admixture of African DNA into the mix
5. essential continuity of the Maghrebian population throughout the 30k yr period, including the Moorish era and up to the present time

I can post them again, but if I do, it will result in a massive nervous breakdown among the Afronazis in here. So I'm warning you... don't push me.
duke nuke em

Winder, GA

#9506 Sep 22, 2012
mikemike wrote:
<quoted text>a 30,000 year old eurasin walking around in n.africa,you need to be infront of a firing squad,for being STUPID
LOL. Or brake a broom stick in they're mouth for talking. Who asked them.
duke nuke em

Winder, GA

#9507 Sep 22, 2012
mikemike wrote:
<quoted text>burrio's here to argue,he has very little knowledge he's still ranting foolishness about hahaha a 30,000 year old white man walking around in n.africa,in my son 1 grade classroom his teacher never mention's this fairy=tale, no archegologist mention's his finding of this farce 30,000 year old whiteman
that cracker can not be serious. He doesn't give a fck what he post. He just shits out his mouth.
Motts

Bridgetown, Barbados

#9508 Sep 22, 2012
Garrig wrote:
<quoted text>
You're wrong. nobody is saying that. I know that there some Moors in Spain were Black, it's documented. But most Moors were not Blacks, just look most North Africans were not Black. And furthmore the Moorish invasion of Spain was not a Black achievement but an Islamic one and the science and learnig they was mostly greco-roman with some persian and arab additions. it was not from black Africa and none of you can prove me wrong. It's not racist. It's just fact.
Yeah we believe you fool!! LOL!!

I FOUND ME SOME WHITE-A-MOORS

Moor figure in sanssouci potsdam, Germany
http://wikimapia.org/17270480/Moorish-Rondell...

Moor figure in scauffhausen, Switzerland (copy and paste, all one link)
http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/infra_anlagen...

Moor sculpture in Memmingen, Germany
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memmin...

The Coburg Moor
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zsenya/499998250...

St. Mauritius the Moor
http://www.taneter.org/moors.html

A MOOR on the COAT OF ARMS of CORSICA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arm...
Barros Serrano

United States

#9509 Sep 22, 2012
Garrig wrote:
<quoted text>
The guy on youtube is a staunch afrocentrist. All he does is show depcitions of blacks around Europe labeled as Moors. But he doesn't explain that moor was a loose term in Europe and at one time refered to anyone dark or foreign irrespective of the actual moors of Spain. He is careful not to show any depictions of Moors that are not black which abound in Spain. Like this coat of arms right here,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
Again here is big portriat of your moorish kings smack dab in the heart of the Alahambra palace in Granada.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XM0kldCydDY/T5mflQf...
Apparenlty folks in Spain didn't think the moors were so Black.
I really wish one of you brainless cowardly fcks would have the balls to actually address this and stop hiding behind your amateurish youtube videos.
Also you will notice that after the 18th century when Europeans became more familiar with Africa people stopped using the word Moor to refer to Blacks when the confusion cleared up and used the Spanish term negro while the Spanish themselves reserved the term Moor for lighter skinned North africans.
Salient facts Afronazis refuse to confront:

Europeans of that time (Medieval era and later) used the adjective “black”, and in Castilian “negro”, to refer to a lot of people whom would NOT today be considered to be “black”, since we mean by that “African”. Gypsies appearing in Europe were very often described as “black”.“Black as a Turk”, would be said. Now how black is a Turk? Please. They're referring to Eastern Mediterranean types as “black”. And this is only a few centuries ago.

Then at some point there are actually BLACK (as we understand that word) Moors, carrying swords, not slaves like probably the first black “Moors” seen in Iberia were, as the BERBER Moors and their Tuareg fellow-Muz were slaving wildly in W Africa.

We have ample evidence for a Berber majority among the Moors in Iberia. So the depiction of the sensationized W African “blackamoors” by Europeans in later centuries, does not tell us who the Moors were.

Again, contemporary depictions by Iberians show mostly non-black Berber types. But you Afronazis dismiss that. Seeing depictions of black Moors, and knowing the history, I recognize and always did that there were black Moors! But Afronazis cannot f'ing admit, seeing clear evidence, that the bulk of the Moorish oppressors of Iberia were non-black Berbers!

Too bad... you're daft.

Level 4

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#9510 Sep 22, 2012
Motts wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds like the usual bull from Barros
Grab some popcorn and enjoy a history lesson..
Moors in Europe 2: Germany and the Holy Roman Empire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =_R-0MyTsmiUXX
Moors in Europe 3: Who was that Head-Banded Man?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The Heralded Moors
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Blacks Moors Ruled at one time in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The BLACK Moorish Artifacts Speak for themselves (LISTEN CAREFULLY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
THE SPANISH KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE WHAT THE MOORS LOOKED LIKE
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Moors in Europe - Black Gold
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
100's of BLACK negro Moors Images in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Thanks Motts, these are beautiful, funny how there's no statues or paintings of the "white" Moors, I guess no one heard about them except for the trolls posting on this forum.
Barros Serrano

United States

#9511 Sep 22, 2012
Garrig wrote:
<quoted text>
The guy on youtube is a staunch afrocentrist. All he does is show depcitions of blacks around Europe labeled as Moors. But he doesn't explain that moor was a loose term in Europe and at one time refered to anyone dark or foreign irrespective of the actual moors of Spain. He is careful not to show any depictions of Moors that are not black which abound in Spain. Like this coat of arms right here,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
Again here is big portriat of your moorish kings smack dab in the heart of the Alahambra palace in Granada.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XM0kldCydDY/T5mflQf...
Apparenlty folks in Spain didn't think the moors were so Black.
I really wish one of you brainless cowardly fcks would have the balls to actually address this and stop hiding behind your amateurish youtube videos.
Also you will notice that after the 18th century when Europeans became more familiar with Africa people stopped using the word Moor to refer to Blacks when the confusion cleared up and used the Spanish term negro while the Spanish themselves reserved the term Moor for lighter skinned North africans.
I lived in Spain in the early 1980's. In Barcelona I saw graffiti in Catalan painted on walls saying,“Moros fora”. That means,“Moors get out!” And to whom did they refer?

The only black people I saw in Barcelona besides AA tourists, and not many of them, were Africans, nearly all from Equatorial Guinea, a former Spanish colony. Were these the “moros” who were addressed in this graffiti?

No. The graffiti referred to MOROCCANS. What did they look like? Well, turn on the TV and watch the Arab Spring. There they are. See any black people? You will see people in Egypt who look black... but that's Egypt. Not Tunisia or Libya. Not Morocco.

Not all the Moroccan immigrants in Spain the Spanish people were calling “moros”.

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