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Since: Sep 12

Congo, The Democratic Republic of the

#24651 Apr 19, 2014
African AE said

The Middle Eastern Eurasian Neolithic Farmers went into Egypt BEFORE the pyramids were built!

They made them mixed mutts!

So were they black Africans at the time the pyramids were being built????NO!!!

They were mixed with Eurasians!
Very EURASIAN looking man builds Sphinx:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankhhaf

KiloEcho replies

I just hate when racist Europeans and their brainwashed descendants whitewash the history of Africa in order to further the White supremacy fantasy and the White superiority myth.

Autochthonous and original, that is, UNMIXED Africans, are all black people regardless of their genotypes and phenotypes as well as geographic location, including North Africa and East Africa.

Whites could not have been ancient Egyptians for two reasons:

Reason # 1: they are not aboriginal anywhere in Africa, they came very MUCH later as invaders, colonizers, settlers, occupiers, and above all slaves (janissaries, mameluk, barbary slaves, punic slaves, saqaliba etc.).

Reason # 2: there were no Whites anywhere in Africa when ancient Egyptians built their civilizations at least 15 000 years ago.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Egyptian-C...
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The so called Whites are pretty good at is going from civilization to civilization, burning, stealilng, and if need be, faking all historical artifacts so that you can make claims such as the dumbest statement you've made above.

Native Americans are right when they say that White mutants aka Pale Faced whole purpose has and will always been to breed out the originals and create a mixed fixed race, claim their identity, steal their legacy and shut out the Natives of all races.

The Whites did it in ancient Europe, in India, in Western Asia and in North Africa.

That is why, the so called Whites were too eager to induct dark brown skinned people from Africa with a great history like the Moors, the Ethiopians, the Egyptians into the extended Caucasian family far far far away from the so called n@groid Africans
African AE

South Africa

#24654 Apr 19, 2014
KiloEcho wrote:
African AE said
The Middle Eastern Eurasian Neolithic Farmers went into Egypt BEFORE the pyramids were built!
They made them mixed mutts!
So were they black Africans at the time the pyramids were being built????NO!!!
They were mixed with Eurasians!
Very EURASIAN looking man builds Sphinx:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankhhaf
KiloEcho replies
I just hate when racist Europeans and their brainwashed descendants whitewash the history of Africa in order to further the White supremacy fantasy and the White superiority myth.
Autochthonous and original, that is, UNMIXED Africans, are all black people regardless of their genotypes and phenotypes as well as geographic location, including North Africa and East Africa.
Whites could not have been ancient Egyptians for two reasons:
Reason # 1: they are not aboriginal anywhere in Africa, they came very MUCH later as invaders, colonizers, settlers, occupiers, and above all slaves (janissaries, mameluk, barbary slaves, punic slaves, saqaliba etc.).
Reason # 2: there were no Whites anywhere in Africa when ancient Egyptians built their civilizations at least 15 000 years ago.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Egyptian-C...
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The so called Whites are pretty good at is going from civilization to civilization, burning, stealilng, and if need be, faking all historical artifacts so that you can make claims such as the dumbest statement you've made above.
Native Americans are right when they say that White mutants aka Pale Faced whole purpose has and will always been to breed out the originals and create a mixed fixed race, claim their identity, steal their legacy and shut out the Natives of all races.
The Whites did it in ancient Europe, in India, in Western Asia and in North Africa.
That is why, the so called Whites were too eager to induct dark brown skinned people from Africa with a great history like the Moors, the Ethiopians, the Egyptians into the extended Caucasian family far far far away from the so called n@groid Africans
THE EUROPEAN LOOKING BERBERS ARE INDIGENOUS TO NORTH AFRICA!!!!! They carry INDIGENOUS NORTH AFRICAN DNA so how are they NOT INDIGENOUS??????????Egyptians painted LIBYANS AS WHITE ON THEIR WALLS! Do you think those Libyans never went into Egypt???? On their wall paintings they portray all races!
Mike

Kenosha, WI

#24657 Apr 19, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Shut up you AFRONAZI B*TCH!!!! Moors are mostly white and the Moors who conquered Europe were also majority white you dumb Afronazi b*tch!
Moors painted at the time they had conquered Europe:
www.warfare.totalh.net/Cantiga/Cantigas_de_Sa...
I bet you never see that pic on AFRONAZI SITES?????I wonder why?????
REAL MODERN MOORS:
www.moroccoworldnews.com/2013/12/116775/socce...
MODERN MOORS LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE ABOVE MEN!!!! How did the supposedly black Moors turn majority white in 400 years carrying INDIGENOUS NORTH AFRICAN DNA you dumb stupid low IQ B*TCH??????????
Do they look white to you?????????? The images tell the truth!!!

http://historum.com/european-history/66265-mo...
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#24658 Apr 19, 2014
Mike wrote:
<quoted text> Do they look white to you?????????? The images tell the truth!!!
http://historum.com/european-history/66265-mo...
AFRONAZI RUBBISH! UM.....the MAJORITY OF MOORS are WHITE! How did they change colour from black to white in 400 years??????????
Paintings of the Moors done at the time the Moors had conquered Spain!
www.warfare.totalh.net/Cantiga/Cantigas_de_Sa...
THE MAJORITY OF MOORS LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THESE MEN CARRYING INDIGENOUS NORTH AFRICAN DNA:
www.moroccoworldnews.com/2013/12/116775/socce...
THEY DO NOT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THESE BLACK AFRICANS:
www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/18721460
ACCORDING TO DNA MOROCCANS CARRY NO SUB-SAHARAN AFRICAN Y-DNA!!!!How the f--k did they change colour in 400 years??????
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#24659 Apr 19, 2014
Another thing, THE SUPPOSEDLY BLACK MOORS RULED SPAIN for 700 years! How is it the the Spanish HAVE VIRTUALLY NO BLACK AFRICAN DNA??????They do have NORTH AFRICAN DNA!!!!
www.warfare.totalh.net/Cantiga/Cantigas_de_Sa...
Do the Spanish look like African Americans?????
Mike

Kenosha, WI

#24660 Apr 19, 2014
African AE wrote:
Another thing, THE SUPPOSEDLY BLACK MOORS RULED SPAIN for 700 years! How is it the the Spanish HAVE VIRTUALLY NO BLACK AFRICAN DNA??????They do have NORTH AFRICAN DNA!!!!
www.warfare.totalh.net/Cantiga/Cantigas_de_Sa...
Do the Spanish look like African Americans?????
Ok I'm bored I'll play with you a little. Here's an article about the true Berbers of north Africa before the Arab conquest. Here's a quote from the article just n case you fail the read the whole link.

"Although many Westerners believe that all so-called "Berbers" are Caucasians, a simple" examination of the Amajegh (Tuareg) people, most of whom are clearly not Caucasians, and their history would easily refute such notions.

Even by the 19th century, Europeans who studied north Africa were fully aware of the Black Amajeghs. End Quote.

Although many Westerners believe that all so-called "Berbers" are Caucasians, a simple examination of the Amajegh (Tuareg) people, most of whom are clearly not Caucasians, and their history would easily refute such notions.

http://www.taneter.org/berbers.html

Native Berbers were black African, modern north African soccer players Arabs. Ancient Egyptians Black African, modern Egyptian soccer players Arabs. You get it now? I know you love to reference Arab soccer players in your links, you have some type of fetish with male Arab soccer players, but what ever floats your boat.

Level 5

Since: Sep 12

Congo, The Democratic Republic of the

#24661 Apr 19, 2014
African AE said

AFRONAZI RUBBISH! UM.....the MAJORITY OF MOORS are WHITE!

How did they change colour from black to white in 400 years??????????

THE MAJORITY OF MOORS LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THESE MEN CARRYING INDIGENOUS NORTH AFRICAN DNA:

www.moroccoworldnews.com/2013/12/116775/socce...
THEY DO NOT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THESE BLACK AFRICANS:
www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/18721460
ACCORDING TO DNA MOROCCANS CARRY NO SUB-SAHARAN AFRICAN Y-DNA!!!!How the f--k did they change colour in 400 years??????

KiloEcho replies

Dummy, you should stop exposing your sheer stupidity and gross ignorance about the true history of North Africa.

The Moors are White, only in your dreams

Moroccans are White, only in your dreams

There is not such a thing as a sub-Saharan DNA, only in your dreams
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Indigenous North Africans living in coastal and urban areas look mixed, not White.

As a South African "Colored", it should be very easy to understand how aboriginal populations can change color from dark brown to light brown -in exceptional cased to milk white- after massive influx of White invaders or settlers and intermixing with aboriginal black skinned population on a larger scale.

Go to Cape Verde where 75% of the population is mulatto. The same for the Cabinda enclave of Angola .

Countless of White Americans are the descendants of light skinned African Americans who were able to pass off as White. They were, in fact, quadroons, octoroons and quintrons. It took less than 50 years.
LION

Charlotte, NC

#24662 Apr 19, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Um....NOPE there are NO TRIBES in Southern Africa carrying Eurasian DNA!
www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogrou...
South African blacks carry:
Haplogroup E1b1a/E1b1b (originated in Ethiopia, ME.people do not carry the same subclave as Africans) Haplogroup B and Q
YOU CANNOT CARRY MAJORITY MIDDLE EASTERN DNA AND BE BLACK!!!!!
These people carry overwhelmingly Middle Eastern DNA! Do they look black:
www.israelite-samaritans.com
the khoisan tribes
the Fulani people
the lemba tribe
and those are just a few
LION

Charlotte, NC

#24663 Apr 19, 2014
Its good to be King wrote:
What actual Moors look like.
http://youtu.be/V9owmyWV1ec
Its good to be King.
According to abu shama (1100s) the masmuda berbers were black north Africans who ruled several parts of spain and all of portuguel at one time. They were known as the almhade moors who were from northern morocco.
LION

Charlotte, NC

#24664 Apr 19, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>NO NOT KIDDING:
CASTA PAINTING:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casta
What do that casta painting have to do with the moors?
You are still in a serious racist denial.
LION

Charlotte, NC

#24665 Apr 19, 2014
Analyze_ wrote:
<quoted text>
You pathetic ass troll! Been trolling this thread for YEARS trying to convince yourself that moors/egyptians are not black. And have the NERVE to have a screen name of AFRICAN AE. Gtfoh!
You have been proven wrong by not only posters like LION and trollslayer but also Scholars! You MUST be a pink hunky.
LOL
LION

Charlotte, NC

#24666 Apr 19, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Shut up you AFRONAZI B*TCH!!!! Moors are mostly white and the Moors who conquered Europe were also majority white you dumb Afronazi b*tch!
Moors painted at the time they had conquered Europe:
www.warfare.totalh.net/Cantiga/Cantigas_de_Sa...
I bet you never see that pic on AFRONAZI SITES?????I wonder why?????
REAL MODERN MOORS:
www.moroccoworldnews.com/2013/12/116775/socce...
MODERN MOORS LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE ABOVE MEN!!!! How did the supposedly black Moors turn majority white in 400 years carrying INDIGENOUS NORTH AFRICAN DNA you dumb stupid low IQ B*TCH??????????
Many black moors had children with white slave women and so on which lightened them up.
Many middle easterns mixed in with black moors as they came down into Africa.
And many moors were brought to America as slaves.
And most eyewitnesses of the moors only describe negroes.
LION

Charlotte, NC

#24667 Apr 19, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>MODERN EGYPTIANS DESCENDANTS OF THE PHARAOHS:
www.sandalsforgoalposts.com/2012/07/25/london...
Ancient Egyptians like modern Egyptians ARE CLOSELY RELATED TO OTHER NORTH AFRICANS and always have been!!!!! Only 10% of Egyptians carry foreign DNA! Go figure dumb b*tch!
But yet the sphinx look black and black nubia was the foundation of ancient Egypt.
LION

Charlotte, NC

#24668 Apr 19, 2014
Its good to be King wrote:
Lol these Knnegroes are delusional trying to claim civilizations that clearly are not nor have ever been black.
The evidence is right before your eyes but you are too insecure to see or accept it.
Sankofa

Baltimore, MD

#24669 Apr 19, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>The Middle Eastern Eurasian Neolithic Farmers went into Egypt BEFORE the pyramids were built! They made them mixed mutts! So were they black Africans at the time the pyramids were being built????NO!!! They were mixed with Eurasians!
Very EURASIAN looking man builds Sphinx:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankhhaf


His nose is gone and those lips aren't thin... Then again both the thinnest and thickest lips in the world belong to African groups. Thanks to trollslayer I will refrain (for the most part) from just debating you with my own words since you have no interest in factual content and will continue to mislead. From now on I will pull sources as often as possible as to leave no doubt and to help equip others with literature, there's a lot of it now. So here's an appropriate rebuttal to your comment based on the work of actual Anthropologists and Egyptologists.

"Certainly there was some foreign admixture [in Egypt], but basically a homogeneous African population had lived in the Nile Valley from ancient to modern times...[the] Badarian people, who developed the earliest Predynastic Egyptian culture, already exhibited the mix of North African and Sub-Saharan physical traits that have typified Egyptians ever since (Hassan 1985; Yurco 1989; Trigger 1978; Keita 1990.. et al.,)... The peoples of Egypt, the Sudan, and much of East African Ethiopia and Somalia are now generally regarded as a Nilotic continuity, with widely ranging physical features (complexions light to dark, various hair and craniofacial types) but with powerful common cultural traits, including cattle pastoralist traditions.." (Frank Yurco, "An Egyptological Review," 1996 -in Mary R. Lefkowitz and Guy MacLean Rogers, Black Athena Revisited, 1996, The University of North Carolina Press, p. 62-100)
Sankofa

Baltimore, MD

#24670 Apr 19, 2014
In response to other comments made by AE:

"These studies suggest a recent and primary subdivision between African and non-African populations, high levels of divergence among African populations, and a recent shared common ancestry of non-African populations, from a population originating in Africa. The intermediate position, between African and non-African populations, that the Ethiopian Jews and Somalis occupy in the PCA plot also has been observed in other genetic studies (Ritte et al. 1993; Passarino et al. 1998) and could be due either to shared common ancestry or to recent gene flow. The fact that the Ethiopians and Somalis have a subset of the sub-Saharan African haplotype diversity and that the non-African populations have a subset of the diversity present in Ethiopians and Somalis makes simple-admixture models less likely; rather, these observations support the hypothesis proposed by other nuclear-genetic studies (Tishkoff et al. 1996a, 1998a, 1998b; Kidd et al. 1998) that populations in northeastern Africa may have diverged from those in the rest of sub-Saharan Africa early in the history of modern African populations and that a subset of this northeastern-African population migrated out of Africa and populated the rest of the globe. These conclusions are supported by recent mtDNA analysis (Quintana-Murci et al. 1999)." [Tishkoff et al.(2000) Short Tandem-Repeat Polymorphism/Alu Haplotype Variation at the PLAT Locus: Implications for Modern Human Origins. Am J Hum Genet; 67:901-925]
Sankofa

Baltimore, MD

#24671 Apr 19, 2014
Here's what Dr. Shomarka Keita (probably the foremost "Afrocentric" scholar in the world, a Cambridge professor who began his career at Howard University working in the fields of Anthropology and Population Genetics) has to say of African diversity and the term "sub-Saharan"...

"The living peoples of the African continent are diverse in facial characteristics, stature, skin color, hair form, genetics, and other characteristics. No one set of characteristics is more African than another. Variability is also found in "sub-Saharan" Africa, to which the word "Africa" is sometimes erroneously restricted. There is a problem with definitions. Sometimes Africa is defined using cultural factors, like language, that exclude developments that clearly arose in Africa. For example, sometimes even the Horn of Africa (Somalia, Ethiopia, Eritrea) is excluded because of geography and language and the fact that some of its peoples have narrow noses and faces.

However, the Horn is at the same latitude as Nigeria, and its languages are African. The latitude of 15 degree passes through Timbuktu, surely in "sub-Saharan Africa," as well as Khartoum in Sudan; both are north of the Horn. Another false idea is that supra-Saharan and Saharan Africa were peopled after the emergence of "Europeans" or Near Easterners by populations coming from outside Africa. Hence, the ancient Egyptians in some writings have been de-Africanized. These ideas, which limit the definition of Africa and Africans, are rooted in racism and earlier, erroneous "scientific" approaches." (S. Keita, "The Diversity of Indigenous Africans," in Egypt in Africa, Theodore Clenko, Editor (1996), pp. 104-105.[10])

No more dodging, claiming everything's outdated. Show me newer evidence to the contrary and no UFO sites please AE! Some people actual check those ridiculous links, stop wadting time! People genuinely concerned about African history should be making their own personal library of this data to be shared to anyone smart enough to understand it.
Sankofa

Baltimore, MD

#24672 Apr 19, 2014
To be clear that second quote was in response to AE saying Middle Eastern and European pop's didn't come from Africa.

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#24673 Apr 19, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>THE EUROPEAN LOOKING BERBERS ARE INDIGENOUS TO NORTH AFRICA!!!!! They carry INDIGENOUS NORTH AFRICAN DNA so how are they NOT INDIGENOUS??????????Egyptians painted LIBYANS AS WHITE ON THEIR WALLS! Do you think those Libyans never went into Egypt???? On their wall paintings they portray all races!
Lmao "european looking" which basically means that africans were diverse in ancient times. Dumb ass.
Sankofa

Baltimore, MD

#24674 Apr 19, 2014
Exactly, they weren't European or Middle Eastern, they were African.

"..sample populations available from northern Egypt from before the 1st Dynasty (Merimda, Maadi and Wadi Digla) turn out to be significantly different from sample populations from early Palestine and Byblos, suggesting a lack of common ancestors over a long time. If there was a south-north cline variation along the Nile valley it did not, from this limited evidence, continue smoothly on into southern Palestine. The limb-length proportions of males from the Egyptian sites group them with Africans rather than with Europeans." (Barry Kemp, "Ancient Egypt Anatomy of a Civilisation.(2005) Routledge. p. 52-60)"

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