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#22930 Mar 6, 2014
truth wrote:
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If negroes built all these great civilizations in southern Africa, why aren't there any visible remnants of these civilizations today?
At least I could travel to Mexico, Greece and Egypt today and visibly see with my own eyes the pyramids and monuments there.
No such thing could be visibly seen by any person going to southern Africa today. Enough said!
Who told you there are no signs of ancient civilizations all over Africa?

Why do you make so many claims without even having checked if anything you say can be backed up? Are you just saying the things you hope are true?

http://www.viewzone.com/adamscalendar.html

Then there is the NOK culture of Nigeria.

People don't excavate their own countries.

Which is why South Africa and Egypt are the main countries that get excavated by foreigners.
ABC

Merrimack, NH

#22931 Mar 6, 2014
LOL! That ViewZone link is hilarious! A 200k year old modern human massive civilazation?!? Ahahaha, nothing whatsoever is cited, it's just basic shots of loose remnants of walls and such and no proof whatsoever. I thought I'd seen some hilarious conspiracy theories on sites like realhistoryww or whatever it's called, but that takes the cake. It belongs on David Icke's site or something.
ABC

Merrimack, NH

#22932 Mar 6, 2014
Hey good news everyone! The very same author of that super accurate and historically sensible article is back with another piece of hard truth sure to rock us to our cores!

http://www.viewzone.com/zeta.html

Forget black men, forget white men.... It's all about GREY men. Lil' grey men that is, obviously.

Is that guy a genius.... Or THE genius??? You be the judge.
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#22934 Mar 6, 2014
mandingowillsay wrote:
<quoted text>
Before you believe that moron Garrig, just remember that Kurds being connected to REAL MIDDLE EASTERN SEMITE JEWS, does not connect European Ashkenazi to Israel. It simply refers to a biological connection that even North East Africans shares with Middle Easterners.
Basically all human populations are connected, on a scale, some closer some further. it is not like a puzzle you just join together then claim Indians are the Japanese just because they share a chromosome.
The bottom line is like all the cites from reliable sources I have posted say, the Ashkenazi are EUROPEAN period. The greater part of their DNA comes from Europe which makes them European.
There is no point listening or heeding the ramblings of people who are completely ignorant about how DNA is read or dispersed worldwide.
By the same token you can connect all humanity together.
Yes you can but some people are more related than others! The Kurds are closely related to Ashkenazi Jews and thats a fact! The VERY LATEST DNA RESEARCH SHOWS ASHKENAZI MALES CARRY A SUBCLAVE OF R1A FOUND ONLY IN THE MIDDLE EAST! Europeans DO NOT carry the same subclave! So Hitler and white racists are right! JEWS ARE NOT EUROPEAN!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#22935 Mar 6, 2014
Sankofa wrote:
I'm not sure Garrig, West Africans/Bantu definitely made it to East Africa (Kenya). Looking at Narmer, Khufu, Djoser and the Sphinx it seems they all have Bantu prognathism. The wet Sahara nomads actually traversed the entire Sahel moving between West and East Africa along river ways that once connected North Africa. That being said, West Africans and the original Egyptians are African and most likely brown skinned, or what I define as black people. Those who would say otherwise, should be able to see the same distinctions in the very large group of people considered white (From Spaniards to Russians) though they may be less pronounced.
I think Egypt was FAR MORE ETHIOPIAN THAN WEST AFRICAN!!! By the time the pyramids were being built, Egypt was MULTI-RACIAL! Evidence of Caucasian mummies proves this as well as paintings and sculptures!
www.burlingtonnews.net/redhairedmummiesegypt....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankhhaf
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#22936 Mar 6, 2014
mandingowillsay wrote:
<quoted text>
Even if the article is referring to just women and not men, by default you'd still be contradicting yourself, making a non-point and ascertaining that those claiming to be Jews are not. WHY? Because Jewish identity is STRICTLY MATERNAL, if the mother is not a Jew then the children are not Jews regardless of what the father is.
That means you have simply confirmed what I said that those White Jews we've been calling Jews are in fact not Jews at all. This is if I agree with what you say. But I don't, Ashkenazi are European period that in fact is why they are as racist as you.
Your so-called cite is simply a video posted by someone called Assyrianpride, the video states that Palestinians speak an Indo-European language like all other European Middle Easterners. This is factually wrong, and I doubt anyone could make such a mistake like this. The answer is simple, the poster clearly co-signs or is a White supremacy sympathizer and is trying to connect Palestinians to Europeans which would make anything he/she says dubious.
Especially because he/she either doesn't know what language Palestinians speak or has deliberately set out to mislead people as t what language Palestinians speak.
There is no indication to who this man/woman tested, and he even goes on to use the bible as evidence which is more than odd given that most Palestinians are Muslim. All in all this evidence is as dubious as your ridiculous pictures (of unknown origin) of Moors.
This individual clearly has anti-Muslim sentiments.
I'd say people should stick with what the Jews like Shlomo Sand and Arthur Koestler say.
Your cite tells too many lies and has too many inconsistencies and inaccuracies.
Shlomo Sands and Arthur Koestler didnt use DNA and the Khazar theory was long been debunked:
In fact the majority latest sites STATE CLEARLY ASHKENAZI JEWS ARE MIDDLE EASTERN IN ORIGIN WITH NO NO NO KHAZAR DNA:
www.homolog.us/blogs/2014/02/18/new-developme...
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#22937 Mar 6, 2014
AFRONAZIS kicked smacked and whacked!!!! ASHKENAZI JEWS ARE REAL JEWS FROM THE MIDDLE EAST!!!!!!!

“DANGER!!”

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Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#22938 Mar 6, 2014
mandingowillsuck wrote:
<quoted text>Khazars are not European, they are a Turkic people, which pretty much falls in line with your Geography illiterate pals are saying. But Turkic people as well as Europeans are not indigenous to the region in question,(the Middle East)
Hmm! No Sephardim are a completely different branch of JUDAIC PEOPLE. Ashkenazi so-called Jews are mostly bona-fide racist Europeans.
You have made no point here.
More meaningless psychobabble that refutes nothing.
"and Northern Indians are still Caucasian"
They are not THEY ARE THAT ERRONEOUS TERM 'CAUCASOID' Not Caucasian which means White. White is not just having White skin and features. They are not Germanic or Slavic.
Where's your evidence that they just crossed and were not taken as slaves? What you realize, think insinuate has no relevance here.
There is no such thing as a homogenous group called North Africa Caucasians anywhere in Africa at any time. After Whites arrived as slaves, settlers and later as invaders they always had full blooded Black Africans in the places they arrived. You claim they made a barrier, yet it never stopped Blacks traveling to continents outside Africa!? Yet they stopped them on their own continent? Your claims are as delusional as always. Even Egypt was people with Black Sudanese too.
Continued;
HAH!!!

The "point" was well made.

You're just too stpid to know it.

Sephardics may be from a different tribe but Sephardics are genetically quite similar to the base of Ashkinazim genes.

YOU'RE JUST FULL OF SHT, and since when should anyone ever need to disprove that which you merely gleaned off of YouTube bllsht and have NEVER succeeded in proving yourself.

Only the Ethiopian Aksumite Empire ever actually sent 'Black' SSA's outside of Africa or even into North Africa.

All other SSA 'Blacks' were merely taken perforce as slaves, FL.



I have already presented irrefutable evidence that Eurasian Caucasians were the sole inhabitants of North Africa, 30Kya.

I no longer need to show you any hint of courtesy on THAT regard, FL.



It only SEEMS like "meaningless psychobabble that refutes nothing" to an IGNORANT DIM-WITTED INEDUCABLE JRKFF LIKE YOU, DMB SS.

You do NOT have to be "Germanic" or "Slavic" or even to have had your ancestors originate from any "Caucasus Region" in order to be genetically classified as 100% Caucasian, YOU UNEDUCATED IGNORANT DIM-WITTED PATHETICALLY LAUGHABLE PIECE OF SHT.

I don't give a flying FK whether the Khazars were considered European or Turkic, and, regardless of what YOU may 'think' to be true, there is no such thing as a so-called 'White' genetic classification in legitimate modern anthropology, FL.

CAUCASIANS come in many shades of skin complexion.

The "Caucasian" genetic classification is NOT based ANY particular skin tone, and only an ignorant racist JKFF like yourself would seem to want to differ contrariwise.

Any particular Y-hg or mtDNA-hg is classified as either Caucasian or it is NOT and MOST of the Peoples of Northern India are genetically Caucasians.

The genetic classification of "Caucasian" is, for the most part, based upon the results of DNA analysis, not skin color, FL.

The only time that THE TERM, "Caucasoid", is used is, for example, in the case of ~some~, not all, Ethiopid Peoples that have been of an even mixture of 'E-M78' Y-hg's and Eurasian Caucasian DNA-hg's for so many thousands of years that one can no longer simply dismiss them as being any sort of 'half breeds'.

Clearly,'E-M78' Peoples can NEVER be classified as Congoid or 'Ngrod'(if you will), as they are certainly NOT members of the 'E1b1a' Y-hg classification.

As I have already correctly stated, the Ashkinazim may be partly European but they ARE MOSTLY of the same genetic make up as were their ancestor Jews who had originated in the Levant.
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#22939 Mar 6, 2014
mandingowillsay wrote:
<quoted text>
Lmao! A few English with Italian ancestry does not equal Germanic people having any connection to ancient Rome, lol! Your stupidity is astounding.
West Africans don't need to claim Egypt they/we had plenty of our own empires. I'm okay for ancient Blacks in the North and East of Africa to stake their rightful claim on ancient Egypt. Don't be under the impression West Africans are as desperate as you.
All Africa has cultural, linguistic and historical links. The Igbo's of West Africa are reputedly also a Semitic people who migrated further into Sub-Saharan Africa when Whites invaded to steal everything.
And never forget the 52 million Hausa (Afro-Asiatic) speakers in WEST AFRICA, I have a feeling your Geography ignorant ass tends to forget them.
Any more surprise claims, like the Uganda is is Asia? Lmao!!
Igbo are NOT SEMITES and have NO Middle Eastern DNA! Apart from the Lemba there are NO Africans with Middle Eastern or Israelite DNA!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#22940 Mar 6, 2014
Arabs have a different subclave of Haplogroup J to the REAL JEWS of Israel! Ethiopians carry the Arabian subclave! They are NOT related to the Jews of Israel and are seen as converts!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews

“DANGER!!”

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Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#22941 Mar 6, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>I think Egypt was FAR MORE ETHIOPIAN THAN WEST AFRICAN!!! By the time the pyramids were being built, Egypt was MULTI-RACIAL! Evidence of Caucasian mummies proves this as well as paintings and sculptures!
www.burlingtonnews.net/redhairedmummiesegypt....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankhhaf
Dude, you simply cannot go just by what is left of the original face of the Sphinx.

At least half of the original face is completely gone and it is merely an illusion that the Sphinx had been modeled after some "prognathous" SSA.

That Sphinx is documented to have been modeled after King Khephrin of the 4th Dynasty, and King Khephrin looks more like a Caucasian than anything else.

http://www.touregypt.net/museum/iv35.htm
tina

Port Arthur, TX

#22942 Mar 6, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Modern Moors how did they turn majority white in 500 years:
www.marrakeshriadmarrakech.wordpress.com/2011...
same way America turned majority white...in less time.
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#22943 Mar 6, 2014
tina wrote:
<quoted text>
same way America turned majority white...in less time.
Um....NOPE, America was ALWAYS MAJORITY WHITE!
yisrael

Memphis, TN

#22946 Mar 7, 2014
Hebrews was identical to Sahara peoples, WE DID EVERYTHING THEY DID ALL the way down to the FOOD,WE EVEN WORSHIP THEY RELIGIONS, all of them,Guess what when Hebrew Nation destroyed guess where Hebrews ran from Egypt? SAHARA lol,every which waY THEY TURN ITS SAHARA,
yisrael

Memphis, TN

#22947 Mar 7, 2014
The drying up of the Sahara forced people around the desert oases to settle along the Nile. Neolithic settlements dating from around 6000 BC can be found all over Egypt. Weaving was first seen in Egypt in this period,
yisrael

Memphis, TN

#22948 Mar 7, 2014
The Meshwesh Pharaoh"s was from west africa an they help the Hebrew nation thruoght its whole time in the Throne, all of it's Dynasty's,from Smendes 1077 BC - 1051 BC,on down to,Psamm. III 526 BC - 525 BC,The Meswesh was WEST AFRICANS thats was in conflict with the east Africans over Egypt, The drying up of the Sahara forced people around the desert oases to settle along the Nile. Neolithic settlements dating from around 6000 BC can be found all over Egypt. Weaving was first seen in Egypt in this period, WE was a Shepard peoples whom Handled livestock,an we started to move into Egypt, was they UNDER covenant Law? nope. but they was some black west africans,whom had taken over Egypt,ok check this The Latin name Libya,referred to the region west of the Nile Valley,Ma' Meshwesh peoples came from the SAHARA,before it dried up, Egypt contains the Siwa Oasis, historically part of Libya, where the Siwi language is still spoken.,ok check this, Herodotus (1.46) used Libue to indicate the African continent,south of Ancient Egypt, were known as "Aethiopians"; this was also the understanding of later Greek geographers such Diodorus, Strabo, Pliny the Elder, The Romans used the name Libyes, but only when referring to the Western desert of Egypt. The other Libyan territories became known as Africa.. the Meshwesh peoples PAINTED THEMSELFS black an Brown, as shown in art work of 20 till 26 Dynasty's of Egypt

Level 5

Since: Sep 12

Congo, The Democratic Republic of the

#22949 Mar 7, 2014
Curious Me said

-I have already presented irrefutable evidence that Eurasian Caucasians were the sole inhabitants of North Africa, 30Kya.

The "Caucasian" genetic classification is NOT based ANY particular skin tone,

-The genetic classification of "Caucasian" is, for the most part, based upon the results of DNA analysis, not skin color, FL.

-The only time that THE TERM, "Caucasoid", is used is, for example, in the case of ~some~, not all, Ethiopid Peoples that have been of an even mixture of 'E-M78' Y-hg's and Eurasian Caucasian DNA-hg's for so many thousands of years that one can no longer simply dismiss them as being any sort of 'half breeds'.

-Clearly,'E-M78' Peoples can NEVER be classified as Congoid or 'Ngrod'(if you will), as they are certainly NOT members of the 'E1b1a' Y-hg classification.

KiloEcho replies

You are talking BS as usual

Europeans and their descendants are self-served to conceptualize Africa and Africans in some way that flatters their inflated egos and further their divide and conquer agenda

There are the superior and civilized Caucasoid North-East and Saharan Africans, the e1b1b people vs the inferior and savage N@groid/Congoid sub-Saharan Africans, the e1b1a people
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Get this in your negrophobic skull

The unity of the African continent is written in our blood and DNA, the E hg and its many subclades, including the e1b1b; which is considered African admixture among Europeans or Asians

You have proven nothing as far as the presence of Caucasians in North Africa 30 thousands years ago.

There is no Caucasian DNA on the whole of Africa. This is a total fabrication.

Indigenous Africans carry African signature genes, like the E hg and its many subclades.

Stop claiming people who have very little in common with you

Indigenous Africans have the same origin (Africa), the same haplogroup (E and one of its subclades), the same continental organizations (African Union), the same linguage groups etc.

The so called Whites came to Africa ORIGINALLY as slaves and settlers and much much later as invaders and conquerors.

No wonder Berbers have maternal Eurasian ancestry dating back to a VERY REMOTE PERIOD OF time when White women were sold or given to powerful African men as a tribute.

You really need a reality check

The lightest Berbers have a hard time being accepted in Europe, let alone the Americas AS CAUCASIANS LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Indigenous North Africans, including Berbers, Egyptians, Nubians, Sudanese, are seen as an alien group of people with foundational origins in Africa.

This is regardless of the amount of European or Western Asian genes they have absorbed.
yisrael

Memphis, TN

#22950 Mar 7, 2014
The name Berber appeared for the first time after the end of the Roman Empire. The use of the term Berber spread in the period following the arrival of the Vandals during their major invasions, of africa,Roman consul in Africa made the first reference of the term "barbarian" to describe north Africans, other then Egyptians, or east Africans, because they found no monuments like in east africa, The English term was introduced in the 19th century, replacing the earlier Barbary, a loan from Arabic. Its ultimate etymological identity with barbarian is uncertain, but the Arabic word has clearly been treated as identical with Latin barbaria, Byzantine , Greeks, Romans, and Byzantines peoples moved there, living in Greater "Libya" (North Africa) in the areas where Berbers were later found, LIGHTING their skin tone up,Arabs really raped them later on,,The Maghreb or western North Africa on the whole is believed to have been inhabited by Berbers since from at least 10,000 B.C. Northern African cave paintings, dating back 12,000 years, have been found in the Tassili n'Ajjer region, southern Algeria. Others were found in Tadrart Acacus in the Libyan desert. A Neolithic culture, marked by animal domestication and subsistence agriculture, developed in the Saharan and Mediterranean region (the Maghreb) of northern Africa between 6000 B.C and 2000 B.C. This type of life, richly depicted in the Tassili n'Ajjer cave paintings of southeastern Algeria, predominated in the Maghreb until the classical period. Prehistorical Tifinagh scripts were also found in the Oran region,euro[en Japheht peoples up in the Numidia.peoples bad, real bad, TAZARRAT on the WEST OF africa, we had TAZARAAT peoples on the EAST THE AMORITES whom was in them peopples ok, the Berbers expanded south from the Sahara , into north Africa,then to east Africa,the Europeans raped ALL Africans living on the COAST because they couldnt get to the africans in middle , so all africans on coast got raped first,

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Since: May 12

Location hidden

#22953 Mar 7, 2014
truth wrote:
<quoted text>
So you don't deny that half of Sudan is in the Saharan desert? Pull out a map and look before posting.
Do you think part of the Sudan being in the Sahara, made Nubian people any less Black African? Whats your point? I ask because it seems you want to imply this but don't have the courage to. You seem to want someone else to take up where you leave off because you know you can't prove anything beyond what you want to believe. Say what you think then supply your evidence to support your claim. The Nubian are recorded as jet Black the geography of their empire has no bearing on the issue. To date as far as I know, White supremacists have not had the time or chance to start de-blacking the Nubian. They have had centuries to rewrite the history of Egypt, deface monuments, burn libraries and create thousands of fake Egypt artifacts.

http://www.raceandhistory.com/manu/update.htm

I suppose you're worried that the location and geography of parts of Nubia (in the Sahara) wreaks havoc on the comical White supremacist claim that there was some kind of invisible line/wall/force field that no Black Africans could cross into the Sahel. Indigenous Black Africans are found in, over and beyond the Sahara. But are you one of those who believes there was an invisible force-field that zapped all melinated people if they walked towards the Sahara?

Your ideas about Black Africans are only based on what you feel Black people (probably in the USA) and Neo-colonized nations are today. You will not be able to understand the history of the world if you continue to view it through the prejudice you have against people. In that way you are NO different from Garrig and racists like Baros.

Your comment only shows that you do not want to see the truth not that you have any real rebuttal of what people here have shown you. Yes, part of Nubia was in the Sahara and?
Mike

Kenosha, WI

#22954 Mar 7, 2014
mandingowillsay wrote:
<quoted text>
That's like saying if Whites built Greece and Rome, you would have other empires identical to Greece and Rome in Western Europe, you don't so what does that say about White people?
Places like Tanzania and Zimbabwe had their own civilizations, which are also hailed by European historians. why on earth do you think all Black people would be building identical civilizations? Does that make sense even to a fool like you?
Was Europe identical in ancient times? How many centers of commerce did Europe have?
Mining dates to 55,000 years old in South Africa. It's clear they had their own things happening.
Only a stupid White fool who has never built anything would make such dumb observations.
try and look at things comparatively then realize how incredibly stupid you Hillbilly red-neck fools are.
How many thriving empires in the whole of the Americas? But how many groups of Native Indians were there all over- Maya and Aztec then what else? History and politics show that rarely do empires stand at the same time.
One rises and another falls, and so on and so forth. Then people simply move from one from the other, moving the technology and advancement from the old area to the new.
Africa is no different. The only hindrance and hurdle Africa encumbered is colliding with destructive White men who destroy everything in their wake. Rome and Greece feel after Germanic's infiltrated. Same with Europeans when they arrived in Maya and Aztec. None of these places stood after the arrival of the destructive White man.
You may not like the reality but that is the provable reality, and the history that the West do not teach.
LOL!! Mad props my brotha, man you brothas on this thread are putting a beatdown on these trolls LOL!!! Man this thread is my comic relief everyday, I don't see why these trolls even bother putting themselves through the torture trying to debate you brothas you just make them look silly, goes to show you cant debate an intelligent blackman! Anyways thanks for the laughs and free entertainment you kiloecho, big mike and the rest keep putting the smackdown on these racist trolls.

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