the moors were black africans not ara...
truth

Los Angeles, CA

#22758 Mar 4, 2014
trollslayer wrote:
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You're nuts. Greeks were heavily influenced by Egyptians. Herodotus always talks about going to Egypt for his education.No matter what your westernized education teaches you, all roads lead back to Africa.
Negroes have NEVER built a civilization, ever!!!

Throughout history, there's been the Ancient Greek, Ancient Egyptian, Persian, Roman empires, Aztec and Mayan empires......

Negroes have NOTHING!!

Heck, negroes are still building mud huts in the year 2014. LOL
Spaniard

Spring Hill, FL

#22759 Mar 4, 2014
Yeah the Moors were black, that explains why they came from North Africa, were Muslim, and spoke Arabic. It also explains why modern day Spanish men (from Spain) look like Barack Obama.

Lol, get real here Negro. The only blacks in Al-Andalus (Moor civilization in the Iberian Peninsula) were a couple Negros from West Africa to be used as soldiers or slaves.
frican AE

Durban, South Africa

#22760 Mar 4, 2014
Spaniard wrote:
Yeah the Moors were black, that explains why they came from North Africa, were Muslim, and spoke Arabic. It also explains why modern day Spanish men (from Spain) look like Barack Obama.
Lol, get real here Negro. The only blacks in Al-Andalus (Moor civilization in the Iberian Peninsula) were a couple Negros from West Africa to be used as soldiers or slaves.
You booze far too much> Spanish men look nothing like Obama! Spanish men look EXACTLY LIKE MODERN MOORS:
www.youtube.com/watch...
Majority of Moors looking very WHITE:
www.marrakeshriadmarrakech.wordpress.com/2011...
PHOTOS OF MODERN SPANISH MEN:
www.youtube.com/watch...
ALSO SPANISH HAVE LESS THAN 2% BLACK AFRICAN DNA! So nope THEY ARE EUROPEAN CAUCASIANS!
Stop drinking so much cool-aid!

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Since: Sep 12

Kinshasa, Congo, The Democratic Republic of the

#22761 Mar 4, 2014
African AE said

Fake Hebrew, how did the black African Moors change from black Africans to majority white Africans??????Chameleons????

KiloEcho replies

You must go and see an eye doctor if you see White people in indigenous North Africans, including Egyptians, Berbers aka Amazigh, Nubians and Sudanese.

These people are not White, at best Whitish. They are predominantly brown or dark brown skinned.

Very few of them are Whitish, though apart from a few Riffians and Kabyles.

Those who are whitish managed to preserve the features of their European ancestors who came to Africa as slaves, settlers and invaders.

Indigenous North Africans are mixed and look mixed with varying levels of black admixture inherited from black skinned ancestors: the aboriginal black skinned populations of North Africa who were migrants from the Horn of Africa and other black skinned populations from the Saharan Regions, including the Tebu or the Fulani.
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You should stop ask stupid questions since you know perfectly well that entire populations can be destroyed and absorbed in less than 100 years through race mixing or racial genocide.

You also know that aboriginal populations can be forced to resettle into reservations or remote areas by invaders or conquerors.

The aboriginals can also be pushed further south or to rural areas far away from coastal towns and urban areas.
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Concerning Berbers, DNA does not lie.

BERBERS ARE PEOPLE OF EAST AFRICAN GENETIC AFFILIATION WHO HAVE MARKED AND RELATIVELY RECENT STRAIN OF EURASIAN BLOOD ON MATERNAL LINES.

Human Alu insertion polymorphisms in North African populations (2011 DNA study)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22146064

Taken together, results on Y chromosome, mtDNA and Alu Insertions in North Africa allow proposing a scenario for this region.

The ancient “sub-Saharan” settlement would have been followed by admixture with Iberian populations.

But, as the North African Y chromosome remained dominant in the region, we could argue that this admixture have been realized in one direction: NORTH AFRICAN MEN AND EURASIAN WOMEN

explaining the gene flow from Europe and high frequency of European types of mtDNA in North Africa as compared with Y chromosome.

This situation would not be the result of drift toward Eurasian mtDNA.

Our results on Alu insertions interestingly confirm that this gene flow happened several times probably always on the same direction.

These matrimonial exchanges between North Africa and Europe should be considered in a context of patriarchal societies with men attached to territory and women from different regions including Europe.

HENCE, GENETIC DIVERSITY ON ONE HAND AND RELATIONSHIP WITH EUROPE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DUE TO WOMEN

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Since: Sep 12

Kinshasa, Congo, The Democratic Republic of the

#22762 Mar 4, 2014
Spaniard said

Yeah the Moors were black,

that explains why they came from North Africa, were Muslim, and spoke Arabic.

It also explains why modern day Spanish men (from Spain) look like Barack Obama.

Lol, get real here Negro.

The only blacks in Al-Andalus (Moor civilization in the Iberian Peninsula) were a couple Negros from West Africa to be used as soldiers or slaves.

KiloEcho replies

Truth hurts, doesn'it?

The whole truth must be told about the Moors both Muslim and pre-Muslim

The word moor predates Islam and the Islamic Arabo-Berber conquest of Al Andalus and other parts of Europe (Crete, Sicily, Southern France, Sardinia etc.)

There were Moors long before there were any Muslims or Arab conquerors in North Africa

That is why the word moor was used for black skinned Africans of Christian faith with no reference at all with Islam or Al Andalus

There are countless of Moorish Saints: all they had in common is their black skin and African origin like the following people

Saint Victor, the Moor
Saint Zeno, the Moor
Saint Benedict, the Moor
Saint Gregory, the Moor
Saint Maurice of Egypt, the Patron Saint of the Holy Roman Empire
Saint Corbineus, the Moor and the list goes on and on

There are a large number of black skinned iconic or high level figures or people in European history who were called Moors and they had nothing to do with Islam

The Black Madonna or La Madonna Mora
The Moor of Peter the Great, Gannibal
Othello, the Moor of Venice
Black Peter, the Moorish servant of Santa Claus
Joahnnes Morus, the Vizir of Sicily and the list goes on and on.
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The word [email protected] was coined by Iberians (Spaniards or Portuguese) for African slaves or servants in the 15C and was later popularized among other European nations involved in black slavery or having black colonies.

Tell me what word Europeans, including Spaniards, used to call black skinned Africans before the 15C?

Tell me why Ethiopia was called the Land of the Moors during the Middle Ages?
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Whitewashing the Moors into non Black Berbers of Arabs of Muslim faith in Spain is a Eurocentric tactic dating back to 18C Europe at the height of scientific racism and European imperialism

Your own Spanish ancestors said that the Moors have bodies as black as night and the Moor is a of black color.

"El Moro tiene el negro" como el moro tiene el color negro

El mauros es el caballo de color negro, pues negro en griego se dice maûros”, en San Isidoro de Sevilla, Etimologías, edición bilingüe, Madrid, 1994

El caballo morcillo (maurus) tiene color negro”.

http://www.spanishdict.com/translation

The Moor has the black since the Moor has the black color

The mauros is the horse of black color, since black in Greek says to himself maûros”, in San Isidoro of Seville, Etymologies, bilingual edition, Madrid, 1994

The horse morcillo (maurus) has black color”.
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It is no use denying that the word moor acquired a racial connotation for very dark or black skinned people across ancient and medieval Europe.

To be continued

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Since: Sep 12

Kinshasa, Congo, The Democratic Republic of the

#22763 Mar 4, 2014
Spaniard said

Yeah the Moors were black, that explains why they came from North Africa, were Muslim, and spoke Arabic. It also explains why modern day Spanish men (from Spain) look like Barack Obama.
Lol, get real here Negro.

The only blacks in Al-Andalus (Moor civilization in the Iberian Peninsula) were a couple Negros from West Africa to be used as soldiers or slaves.

KiloEcho replies

You are drowning in denial.

The Moors could never ever be black people because the shame would have been too great to bear for the superior White Spaniards.

Denying the truth will not make it go away
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The word Moor IS AN EARLY ENGLISH TERM FOR [email protected] and was used a synonym for [email protected] during the Middle Ages (even before that); the same for its equivalents in other European languages

Moriaan in Dutch; Maure in French; Morien in old French; Murzyn in Polish; Mavros in Greek
Moro in Spanish or Italian; Mohr in German
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http://www.etymonline.com/index.php...
Moor (n.)

"North African, Berber," late 14c., from O.Fr. More, from M.L. Morus, from L. Maurus "inhabitant of Mauritania" (northwest Africa, a region now corresponding to northern Algeria and Morocco), from Gk. Mauros, perhaps a native name, or else cognate with mauros "black".

BEING A DARK PEOPLE IN RELATION TO EUROPEANS, THEIR NAME IN THE MIDDLE AGES WAS A SYNONYM FOR [email protected];"

later (16c.-17c.) used indiscriminately of Muslims (Persians, Arabs, etc.) but especially those in India.

In the etymological dictionary of the French language by” Gilles "Ménage" (xvii century) More is defined as black or blackish man.

About the Moors of Spain we read in the same dictionary, we have called Moors or Moorish Arabs who conquered Spain because they came from Mauritania, that is to say the land of black or blackish men

http://www.1902encyclopedia.com/M/MAU/maureta...

Mauretania, or Maurusia, as it was called by Greek writers, unquestionably signified the land of the Mauri, a term still retained in the modern name of Moors, and probably meaning originally nothing but "BLACK MEN "

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/anc-na...

And I have heard this man say that beyond the country which he ruled there was no habitation of men, but desert land extending to a great distance, and that beyond that there are men, not BLACK-SKINNED like the Mauretanii, but very white in body and fair-haired.

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6360787...

Dieu, l'homme et la parole, ou La langue primitive par J. Azaïs, père(1778-1856)

MAURE, nom d'un peuple dont la peau est noire; morou languedocien, mourou provençal, maurus lalin, mor, moren langue romane, morien vieux français, moro catalan, moro espagnol, mouro portugais, moro italien, maour, mauryan bas-breton, mohr allemand, moor anglais, moor hollandais, mohr danois, mor suédois, mour, maar, brûler, hébreu.

Le More est noir, c'est-à dire de la couleur d'une chose brûlée.
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The word moor acquired a racial connotation for very dark or black skinned people across ancient and medieval Europe

The word moor was used across ancient and medieval Europe for people of darker skin color, HISTORICALLY for Ethiopians, Egyptians and Berbers and LATER generalized for all black skinned Africans.

Biologist John Baker (1974) explains: The association of dark skin with the name of 'Moors' resulted eventually in the same term being applied to [email protected]"

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#22765 Mar 4, 2014
truth said

Negroes have NEVER built a civilization, ever!!!
Throughout history, there's been the Ancient Greek, Ancient Egyptian, Persian, Roman empires, Aztec and Mayan empires......
Negroes have NOTHING!!
Heck, negroes are still building mud huts in the year 2014. LOL

KiloEcho replies

Typical Euro-centric ignorance and arrogance.

You are seriously mistaken and what you need is a complete brainwash with a strong detergent

You have a stereotypical NEGATIVE view of black people.

No wonder you are the descendant of Euro-slavers, very much involved in black slavery that lasted centuries in North America.

[email protected] BASHING and WILL NOT MAKE THE TRUTH GO AWAY

Here is the plain truth that has been kept hidden in the Western world as part of the White supremacy propaganda.
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Joseph Pomeroy Widney, M.D. D.D. LL.D (December 26, 1841 – July 4, 1938), a White American doctor and historian.

He was a racist but a meticulous researcher and one of the brilliant minds of his generation.

Men sometimes speak of the Black races of the earth as races yet in their infancy with their race flowering still before them.

But history shows instead, that they are, on the contrary, RACES THAT ARE RETREATING AND RETROGRADING. THEY ONCE OCCUPIED A MUCH WIDER TERRITORY AND WIELDED A VASTLY GREATER INFLUENCE UPON EARTH THAN THEY DO NOW.

They are now found chiefly in Africa; yet traces of them are to be found through the islands of Malaysia, remnants no doubt of that more numerous black population which seems to have occupied tropical Asia before the days of the Semite and the Mongol and the Brahmanic Aryan, Back in the centuries which are scarcely historic, where history gives indeed only vague hintings, are traces OF A WIDE-SPREAD PRIMITIVE CIVILIZATION, CRUDE, IMPERFECT, GARISH, BARBARIC, YET RULING THE WORLD OF THAT AGE FROM ITS SEATS OF POWER IN UPON THE HIGHLANDS OF AFRICA, AND OF A TYPE FAR IN ADVANCE OF ANYTHING THE PRESENT CAN SHOW IN THAT LAND. the valleys of the Ganges, the Euphrates and the Nile; and it was of the Black Races.

The first Babylon seems to have been built by a [email protected] race. The earliest Egyptian civilization seems to have been [email protected] It was in the days before the Semite was known in either land.

The Black seems to have built up empire, such as it was, by the waters of the Ganges before Mongol or Aryan. There are evidences of such primitive empire upon the highlands of Africa, AND OF A TYPE FAR IN ADVANCE OF ANYTHING THE PRESENT CAN SHOW IN THAT LAND.
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Paul Gaffarel (1843-1920), a French scientist, spoke the truth when he wrote the following passage in his work "Etude sur les rapports de l'Amérique et de l'ancien continent avant Christophe Colomb"

Several races seem to have, in turn, exercised world dominance, and been at the forefront of civilization.

The order of succession is now very difficult to determine.

HOWEVER, THE BLACK RACE APPEARS TO BE THE FIRST.

The Malays hunted down Blacks in the islands of Polynesia; the Hindus chased them far into the interior of the Deccan and Ceylon.

Blacks are represented in Egyptian monuments and easily recognizable by the color of their skin, snub nose and slanted eyes.

They were later replaced by invaders.

THE FINAL TRIUMPH OF OUR RACE (THE WHITE RACE) DATES BACK ONLY FROM THE 16C WHEN NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES WERE DESTROYED OR ABSORBED BY EUROPEANS.
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#22766 Mar 4, 2014
KiloEcho wrote:
African AE said
Fake Hebrew, how did the black African Moors change from black Africans to majority white Africans??????Chameleons????
KiloEcho replies
You must go and see an eye doctor if you see White people in indigenous North Africans, including Egyptians, Berbers aka Amazigh, Nubians and Sudanese.
These people are not White, at best Whitish. They are predominantly brown or dark brown skinned.
Very few of them are Whitish, though apart from a few Riffians and Kabyles.
Those who are whitish managed to preserve the features of their European ancestors who came to Africa as slaves, settlers and invaders.
Indigenous North Africans are mixed and look mixed with varying levels of black admixture inherited from black skinned ancestors: the aboriginal black skinned populations of North Africa who were migrants from the Horn of Africa and other black skinned populations from the Saharan Regions, including the Tebu or the Fulani.
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You should stop ask stupid questions since you know perfectly well that entire populations can be destroyed and absorbed in less than 100 years through race mixing or racial genocide.
You also know that aboriginal populations can be forced to resettle into reservations or remote areas by invaders or conquerors.
The aboriginals can also be pushed further south or to rural areas far away from coastal towns and urban areas.
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Concerning Berbers, DNA does not lie.
BERBERS ARE PEOPLE OF EAST AFRICAN GENETIC AFFILIATION WHO HAVE MARKED AND RELATIVELY RECENT STRAIN OF EURASIAN BLOOD ON MATERNAL LINES.
Human Alu insertion polymorphisms in North African populations (2011 DNA study)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22146064
Taken together, results on Y chromosome, mtDNA and Alu Insertions in North Africa allow proposing a scenario for this region.
The ancient “sub-Saharan” settlement would have been followed by admixture with Iberian populations.
But, as the North African Y chromosome remained dominant in the region, we could argue that this admixture have been realized in one direction: NORTH AFRICAN MEN AND EURASIAN WOMEN
explaining the gene flow from Europe and high frequency of European types of mtDNA in North Africa as compared with Y chromosome.
This situation would not be the result of drift toward Eurasian mtDNA.
Our results on Alu insertions interestingly confirm that this gene flow happened several times probably always on the same direction.
These matrimonial exchanges between North Africa and Europe should be considered in a context of patriarchal societies with men attached to territory and women from different regions including Europe.
HENCE, GENETIC DIVERSITY ON ONE HAND AND RELATIONSHIP WITH EUROPE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DUE TO WOMEN
Um....these INDIGENOUS NORTH AFRICANS LOOK WHITE CAUCASIAN TO ME:
www.youtube.com/watch...
This is a WORLD HAPLOGROUP MTDNA MAP:
www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/worldmtdnamap....
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#22767 Mar 4, 2014
KiloEcho wrote:
truth said
Negroes have NEVER built a civilization, ever!!!
Throughout history, there's been the Ancient Greek, Ancient Egyptian, Persian, Roman empires, Aztec and Mayan empires......
Negroes have NOTHING!!
Heck, negroes are still building mud huts in the year 2014. LOL
KiloEcho replies
Typical Euro-centric ignorance and arrogance.
You are seriously mistaken and what you need is a complete brainwash with a strong detergent
You have a stereotypical NEGATIVE view of black people.
No wonder you are the descendant of Euro-slavers, very much involved in black slavery that lasted centuries in North America.
[email protected] BASHING and WILL NOT MAKE THE TRUTH GO AWAY
Here is the plain truth that has been kept hidden in the Western world as part of the White supremacy propaganda.
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Joseph Pomeroy Widney, M.D. D.D. LL.D (December 26, 1841 – July 4, 1938), a White American doctor and historian.
He was a racist but a meticulous researcher and one of the brilliant minds of his generation.
Men sometimes speak of the Black races of the earth as races yet in their infancy with their race flowering still before them.
But history shows instead, that they are, on the contrary, RACES THAT ARE RETREATING AND RETROGRADING. THEY ONCE OCCUPIED A MUCH WIDER TERRITORY AND WIELDED A VASTLY GREATER INFLUENCE UPON EARTH THAN THEY DO NOW.
They are now found chiefly in Africa; yet traces of them are to be found through the islands of Malaysia, remnants no doubt of that more numerous black population which seems to have occupied tropical Asia before the days of the Semite and the Mongol and the Brahmanic Aryan, Back in the centuries which are scarcely historic, where history gives indeed only vague hintings, are traces OF A WIDE-SPREAD PRIMITIVE CIVILIZATION, CRUDE, IMPERFECT, GARISH, BARBARIC, YET RULING THE WORLD OF THAT AGE FROM ITS SEATS OF POWER IN UPON THE HIGHLANDS OF AFRICA, AND OF A TYPE FAR IN ADVANCE OF ANYTHING THE PRESENT CAN SHOW IN THAT LAND. the valleys of the Ganges, the Euphrates and the Nile; and it was of the Black Races.
The first Babylon seems to have been built by a [email protected] race. The earliest Egyptian civilization seems to have been [email protected] It was in the days before the Semite was known in either land.
The Black seems to have built up empire, such as it was, by the waters of the Ganges before Mongol or Aryan. There are evidences of such primitive empire upon the highlands of Africa, AND OF A TYPE FAR IN ADVANCE OF ANYTHING THE PRESENT CAN SHOW IN THAT LAND.
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Paul Gaffarel (1843-1920), a French scientist, spoke the truth when he wrote the following passage in his work "Etude sur les rapports de l'Amérique et de l'ancien continent avant Christophe Colomb"
Several races seem to have, in turn, exercised world dominance, and been at the forefront of civilization.
The order of succession is now very difficult to determine.
HOWEVER, THE BLACK RACE APPEARS TO BE THE FIRST.
The Malays hunted down Blacks in the islands of Polynesia; the Hindus chased them far into the interior of the Deccan and Ceylon.
Blacks are represented in Egyptian monuments and easily recognizable by the color of their skin, snub nose and slanted eyes.
They were later replaced by invaders.
THE FINAL TRIUMPH OF OUR RACE (THE WHITE RACE) DATES BACK ONLY FROM THE 16C WHEN NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES WERE DESTROYED OR ABSORBED BY EUROPEANS.
NO ONE CHANGES RACE IN 500 years! Not anywhere on earth! The Berbers that went into Europe didnt look much different to todays North African Berbers and carried the exact same Haplogroups!
Ancient and Modern Berbers:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Berbers_Mosaic.jpg
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#22768 Mar 4, 2014
KiloEcho wrote:
truth said
Negroes have NEVER built a civilization, ever!!!
Throughout history, there's been the Ancient Greek, Ancient Egyptian, Persian, Roman empires, Aztec and Mayan empires......
Negroes have NOTHING!!
Heck, negroes are still building mud huts in the year 2014. LOL
KiloEcho replies
Typical Euro-centric ignorance and arrogance.
You are seriously mistaken and what you need is a complete brainwash with a strong detergent
You have a stereotypical NEGATIVE view of black people.
No wonder you are the descendant of Euro-slavers, very much involved in black slavery that lasted centuries in North America.
[email protected] BASHING and WILL NOT MAKE THE TRUTH GO AWAY
Here is the plain truth that has been kept hidden in the Western world as part of the White supremacy propaganda.
----------
Joseph Pomeroy Widney, M.D. D.D. LL.D (December 26, 1841 – July 4, 1938), a White American doctor and historian.
He was a racist but a meticulous researcher and one of the brilliant minds of his generation.
Men sometimes speak of the Black races of the earth as races yet in their infancy with their race flowering still before them.
But history shows instead, that they are, on the contrary, RACES THAT ARE RETREATING AND RETROGRADING. THEY ONCE OCCUPIED A MUCH WIDER TERRITORY AND WIELDED A VASTLY GREATER INFLUENCE UPON EARTH THAN THEY DO NOW.
They are now found chiefly in Africa; yet traces of them are to be found through the islands of Malaysia, remnants no doubt of that more numerous black population which seems to have occupied tropical Asia before the days of the Semite and the Mongol and the Brahmanic Aryan, Back in the centuries which are scarcely historic, where history gives indeed only vague hintings, are traces OF A WIDE-SPREAD PRIMITIVE CIVILIZATION, CRUDE, IMPERFECT, GARISH, BARBARIC, YET RULING THE WORLD OF THAT AGE FROM ITS SEATS OF POWER IN UPON THE HIGHLANDS OF AFRICA, AND OF A TYPE FAR IN ADVANCE OF ANYTHING THE PRESENT CAN SHOW IN THAT LAND. the valleys of the Ganges, the Euphrates and the Nile; and it was of the Black Races.
The first Babylon seems to have been built by a [email protected] race. The earliest Egyptian civilization seems to have been [email protected] It was in the days before the Semite was known in either land.
The Black seems to have built up empire, such as it was, by the waters of the Ganges before Mongol or Aryan. There are evidences of such primitive empire upon the highlands of Africa, AND OF A TYPE FAR IN ADVANCE OF ANYTHING THE PRESENT CAN SHOW IN THAT LAND.
----------
Paul Gaffarel (1843-1920), a French scientist, spoke the truth when he wrote the following passage in his work "Etude sur les rapports de l'Amérique et de l'ancien continent avant Christophe Colomb"
Several races seem to have, in turn, exercised world dominance, and been at the forefront of civilization.
The order of succession is now very difficult to determine.
HOWEVER, THE BLACK RACE APPEARS TO BE THE FIRST.
The Malays hunted down Blacks in the islands of Polynesia; the Hindus chased them far into the interior of the Deccan and Ceylon.
Blacks are represented in Egyptian monuments and easily recognizable by the color of their skin, snub nose and slanted eyes.
They were later replaced by invaders.
THE FINAL TRIUMPH OF OUR RACE (THE WHITE RACE) DATES BACK ONLY FROM THE 16C WHEN NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES WERE DESTROYED OR ABSORBED BY EUROPEANS.
Um...Middle Eastern people WERE WHITE and still ARE! Europeans all came fro the Middle East and carry the SAME Haplogroups thats WHY THE MIDDLE EAST WAS NOT BLACK! The only Africans who ever lived in the M.E. were North African Natufians who were wiped out by Eurasians before they went into Europe, N.A the Arabian Peninsula! Ancient Sumerians portrayed themselves as WHITE with BLUE EYES!
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#22769 Mar 4, 2014
ANCIENT SUMERIANS PORTRAY THEMSELVES AS WHITE WITH BLUE EYES:
www.arthistoryworlds.org/sculpture-from-sumer...
Ancient Chaldeans PORTRAY THEMSELVES AS WHITE:
www.penn.museum/sites/Iraq/...
CANADIAN FORENSIC EXPERTS RECREATE ANCIENT 6000 YEAR OLD HEBREWS USING THEIR REAL SKULLS:
www.timesofisrael.com/meet-delilah-tv-series-...
IRAN FORENSIC EXPERT RECREATES ANCIENT 5000 YEAR OLD IRANIAN WOMAN:
www.irandiscovery.blogspot.com
All WHITE EURASIANS!
INDIGENOUS MIDDLE EASTERN DNA is Haplogroup J/G/R1b/R1a/E-M35/E-M34
All the above Haplogroups ARE CARRIED BY EUROPEANS!

mandingowillsay
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#22770 Mar 4, 2014
truth wrote:
Most of you people commenting on this thread are idiots!

The Moors were Arabs, NOT negroes!!

If the Moors were negroes, many Spaniards today would be half negroes and resemble their features, which they don't, and with that, most Mexicans today would resemble negroes too and they don't!!!!!
You are a complete moron.
Your lack of intelligence goes right to the core of who you are. You have clearly been nowhere near Spain. Why would Mexicans resemble Negroes thicko? Do you realise that Mexican is not a race but a nationality you fool?

mandingowillsay
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#22771 Mar 4, 2014
truth wrote:
Oh, and secondly......

If the Moors were negroes, why can't anyone find all those beautiful mosques in sub-saharan Africa like we do all over southern Spain which the Moors built???

Answer: Moors were Arabs, NOT negroes!!!!
Fool when was the last time you went to Sub-saharan Africa? Are you really so stupid you think there are no mosques in Sub-Saharan Africa?

Where do they get people like you from? Did you escape from a mental institution? Or maybe you still live in one?

mandingowillsay
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#22772 Mar 4, 2014
truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Negroes have NEVER built a civilization, ever!!!
Throughout history, there's been the Ancient Greek, Ancient Egyptian, Persian, Roman empires, Aztec and Mayan empires......
Negroes have NOTHING!!
Heck, negroes are still building mud huts in the year 2014. LOL
Why do you cal, yourself truth? You are so incredibly thick that I have no understanding why you have no clue about this yet? Do you not notice how you struggle with basic information?

Don't you know that the Middle East has more mud buildings than the entire African continent you thick fuck?

People like you need to stop pretending you have been to any of the places your dumb asses are arguing about because this is not rocket science just simple facts.

Shibam in the Yemen is an entire city built from mud. You will find nothing like that on the entire African continent. What I mean is you will not find an entire city made from mud.

http://scribol.com/travel/manhattan-of-the-de...

The Gaza strip is also repose with mud huts you stupid uneducated inebriated ape.

http://vimeo.com/groups/palestinesolidarity/v...

n fact all over the Middle East there are mud huts you stupid son-of-a-bitch.

mandingowillsay
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#22773 Mar 4, 2014
Spaniard wrote:
Yeah the Moors were black, that explains why they came from North Africa, were Muslim, and spoke Arabic. It also explains why modern day Spanish men (from Spain) look like Barack Obama.
Lol, get real here Negro. The only blacks in Al-Andalus (Moor civilization in the Iberian Peninsula) were a couple Negros from West Africa to be used as soldiers or slaves.
Keep off the crack and alcohol. Arabic like Hebrew is an Afro-Asiatic language. It is not disputed by anyone that the language comes from Africa so shut the hell up.

Afro-Asiatic, like the Chadean Branch of the Afro-Asiatic languages all originate in Africa. Even though the term ASIATIC has been added on to further throw the scent. Nowhere on the Asian continent do they speak anything called an Afro-Asiatic language. What they are trying t do is confuse you as to who borrowed loan words from whom. If you d=find any similar words in Asia then it is because they are loan words from the African region where people never left.

mandingowillsay
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#22774 Mar 4, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Fake Hebrew, how did the black African Moors change from black Africans to majority white Africans??????Chameleons????
No such thing as a White African there is only such a thing as that in South Africa, Namibia, Botswana and Zimbabwe, and we all know how they got there lmao!!!

I have no idea why you believe Whites arrived any differently anywhere in Africa or the Middle EAST. Be honest, haven't WHITES ARRIVED AS INVADERS EVERYWHERE THEY ARE FOUND?

How did they arrive in Australia, the Americas New Zealand, Africa, Asia, I.e., Japan, China, Korea, and India?

Be honest and look at the history and see if I lie. Whites landed everywhere they are found as vagabonds and invaders. This way of arriving on peoples continents is as old as time and has never changed. They are even arriving in people's countries like this today.

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#22775 Mar 4, 2014
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Then bottom line is White slavery is not and has never been taught as part of the school curriculum so what the hell are you on about? Black slavery is taught to kids as young as 9 and 11. While you may think there is no design to this I and many others do. And please don't waste your time thinking you can make me think anything else on that single point on its own.
You don't seem able to comprehend that it is not about what is out there but about what is taught in schools. About people actually knowing what to look for. Since how long do you think it has been possible to surf the net and find what you want?
Also you do realize that it is also about knowing what to look for.
Many opinions (including yours were) were formed by social engineering and what governments teach people at school, not to mention a very selective cherry picked version of what we should know about other countries and global affairs.
Don't worry I will not waste my time if you start claiming Black history has not been hidden, I'll simply acknowledge that regardless of how well spoken you are you are exactly what I suspect you to be.
I recommend you watch hidden Colours by Tariq Nasheed brilliant documentary that has been kept of meticulously mainstream TV, despite being one of the best selling documentaries of all time. And please don't waste my time telling me about how you feel Afrocentrism is complete nonsense if you are not prepared to tell me how equally nonsensical Eurocentrism is.
Look at it this way; the very reason you seem almost to be chastising me while you say nothing about some of the ridiculous offerings of the EUROCENTRICS.
You need to get over the idea that you can make me feel any less sure of what I know than these Eurocentrics who are spouting complete nonsense all over these pages.
I daresay! Sigh that you are a complete waste of time, I doubt there is any believe you want to hold that has not already been debunked here. But to try and kid the world by telling them there has been no lean towards extreme Eurocentrism, and a complete rubbishing of factual BLACK history tells me a lot about you.
Please stop thinking that as we speak I'm feeling; shit am I an Afrocentric; I'm wondering if you understand how utterly two faced you come across to me and probably many other erudite posters on here.
Clearly you are thinking with emotions not logic.You just cannot compare the relevance of Black Slavery vs White slavery vis a vis Black Americans. The African slave trade predicates your whole reason for being here. Before that your history is pretty much obfuscated in terms of your actual ethnic lineage etc. This is not the case with White Americans. How many were brought here as slaves? That fact some Europeans were captured by muslims in times past and sold into slavery is totally peripheral to their historical narrative. Can you not see that? Teaching about Black slavery in schools is not meant as some kind of slight toward Black people but it is very germaine to understanding who we are and how we got here, unforntunately. And if it wasn't taught, it is Blacks who would be in an uproar accusing Whites of covering the atrocities they commited in the past etc. You can't have it both ways
Here you wax all defensive and I have yet to refute you on any specifics with regard to these unrevealed golden nuggets of Black history that you seem to hold sacred except for our genereal disgareement with regard to the Moors. You will find that I am not adverse to true knowledge, and I don't indenitfy with any eurocentirc view regardless of what you or other may think. Also I have brought a number of real African achivements to light on this board in the past.
In any case, I still await to hear from you about the specifis of the history that you claim is hidden, perhaps there are things I could stand to learn.

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#22776 Mar 4, 2014
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You're nuts. Greeks were heavily influenced by Egyptians. Herodotus always talks about going to Egypt for his education.No matter what your westernized education teaches you, all roads lead back to Africa.
That was besides the point . The fool said there were no ancient European empires. Besides the Greeks eventaully trumped the Egyptians and hellenized their country. There inluence remains in Egypt today.

Try and stay focused.

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#22777 Mar 4, 2014
mandingowillsay said

Whites landed everywhere they are found as vagabonds and invaders.

This way of arriving on peoples continents is as old as time and has never changed.

They are even arriving in people's countries like this today.

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I am more and more convinced that a distant (not so distant) past the Whites had Moorish (that is dark brown skin people of North East African origin, the so called "Hamitic" Africans) rulers, lords and masters, including in Europe, as far as the British Isles (the African King Gormnud) and Scandinavia ( the North African sea kings, the Formorians). The former name of Norway was Formoria

These Moors were both feared and admired.

The Whites learned everything from them, they intermixed and intermarried with them by giving away their daughters to the most powerful of those dark brown skinned Africans.

Those White women were part and parcel of the so called White female scheme of MARRYING UP into powerful, iconic, noble and legendary Black African families for the sake of profit or inheritance.

Once the Whites became learned and powerful enough, they and their mixed offspring (the ligther the better), erased and replaced their Moorish leaders as if they have had always been on top of dark brown skinned Africans.

But collective memory being what it is, you will still find VERY OLD European traditions that celebrate or remember those powerful, iconic, noble and legendary dark brown skinned Hamitic Africans, like the Moor's head used by Europeans as puns on their names.

The Mauriac of France, the Morandi of Italy, the Morrison of England, the Morinho of Portugal, all have a Black African man or women (most oftern crowned and bejeweled) on their coats of arms.

If the Moors have always been Muslim and foes of the Whites, why are there crowned Moorish/Black women of some blazons?

Black women did not take part in the Crusades.

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#22778 Mar 4, 2014
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You come out with a lot erroneous meaningless detail about specific things that are nothing to do with anything.
"Haven't you heard of Commodore Stephen Decatur? What do you think the "Shores of Tripoli" in the Marine hymn is about? But thats over and done with"
Please, are you deluded enough to think I think anything about the fact you know this and I don't? What in heavens name is wrong with you? Are you one of those misguided souls who thinks anyone not knowing what only you think is relevant mean's someone is dumb?
You sound ridiculous my friend; I learn what I feel is necessary for me to know. I feel not a tiny bit of anxiety about not knowing what you feel people should know. That is simply what I regard as a Jedi mind trick. Nor do I give a fig what YOU call intelligent, Afrocentric or delusional. All I care about is what people can prove. Eurocentrism by the looks of it can prove very little which has not stopped it being proposed as the standard in most schools.
Your poor oversenistive ego is showing yet again. I did not mention those things to impress upon some notion of my having higher learning etc. You mentioned that events with regard to North Africans cpaturing Whites is supposedly absent from the history books. And I am showing you it is not. It's part of our national history, the Barbary Wars. If you were really unfamliar with the US Marine hymn then shame on you!

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