the moors were black africans not ara...
Citizen 1986

UK

#21897 Feb 7, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Europeans carry NORTH AFRICAN DNA not black African DNA!!!!!!!!Europeans ORIGINATED IN THE MIDDLE EAST!!!!!!Ancient Europeans looked exactly like Italians with a CAUCASIAN swarthy complexion!!!!!!!!!!Europeans and M.E. originated FROM THE WHITE NEANDERTHAL AND HOMINIDS!!!! There has NEVER EVER been any ancient anatomy correct ancient Africans found outside Africa! PROVE ME WRONG?????????? So NO modern Africans were not the first anywhere!!!
I don't know if you are serious or joking because you write the dumbest shit. Imagine you saying Afronazis came up with OOA theory and your looking for anatomical modern man from Africa . Do you understand the links you post. The OOA theory is about genetics as in DNA analysis you don't need skeletons. You post links of halogroups but yet your looking for skeletons. You are crazy .
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#21898 Feb 7, 2014
Citizen 1986 wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia you picked the worst country to state that crap. They don't have black slaves because it isn't necessary they are a civilized and developed region. Please think with your head and not your butthole. What Arab country have you been to or lived in.
READ SLOWLY and take your head out your butt;
Civilized f--king backside, no only do they have black African slaves, they behead women for adultry and marry girls under 10:
www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/saudi-o...
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/nov/08...
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#21899 Feb 7, 2014
Citizen 1986 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know if you are serious or joking because you write the dumbest shit. Imagine you saying Afronazis came up with OOA theory and your looking for anatomical modern man from Africa . Do you understand the links you post. The OOA theory is about genetics as in DNA analysis you don't need skeletons. You post links of halogroups but yet your looking for skeletons. You are crazy .
The fact is scientist get the DNA from ancient skeletons! How else would they know modern humans are related to neanderthals! The only people ever to come out of Africa were hominids! Youre an idiot who needs to wake UP!!!!!!!!!!ANCIENT SKELETONS ARE EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!
READ EXTREMELY SLOWLY STUPID:
www.humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics/anc...

Level 5

Since: Sep 12

Kinshasa, Congo, The Democratic Republic of the

#21900 Feb 7, 2014
African AE said

ONE MORE TIME, EUROPEANS CAME FROM THE MIDDLE EAST:
www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/worldmtdnamap....

KiloEcho replies

Repeating the same lies over and over again will not make the truth go away

Europe is a subcontinent of the Eurasian continent

The so called Whites originated from South Central Asia and migrated west to Europe.

The so called Whites are not from the Middle East but from South Central Asia, their point of origin.

You can still find white skinned populations in Northern Afghanistan, called the Nuristani.

Many of them have blond or red hair and blue or green eyes.

They live in caves just like White people did before migrating all over the world, including Europe

The Middle East aka Western Asia was inhabited by dark brown skinned people of several types before they were invaded, erased and replaced by white skinned populations.

1) Ethiopoid type still found in Yemen;
2) Veddoid type;
3) Dravidian type.

That is why you can find people with the so called "Mediterranean look"--which is, actually a hybrid type of 1/4 black and 3/4 white-- far far away from the Meditterranean region in places where Ethiopoid, Veddoid and Dravidian populations had been absorbed by invading white tribes.
Bigsmoke

Bridgwater, UK

#21901 Feb 7, 2014
mandingowillsay wrote:
<quoted text>
Not true; in antiquity there was nothing that could be defined as or even close to White in Africa; The originals were all what would technically be described as Black African.
And north Africa does not have a mixed ancestry this is complete garbage. They have one ancestry that is indigenous to Africa that suffered influxes from outside.
Everyone has mixed ancestry. North Africans clearly lie between East Africans and West Eurasians geoigraphical proximity plus the history of civilizations should give you an idea. Who you consider white depends on your opinion not history or biology.
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#21902 Feb 7, 2014
KiloEcho wrote:
African AE said
ONE MORE TIME, EUROPEANS CAME FROM THE MIDDLE EAST:
www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/worldmtdnamap....
KiloEcho replies
Repeating the same lies over and over again will not make the truth go away
Europe is a subcontinent of the Eurasian continent
The so called Whites originated from South Central Asia and migrated west to Europe.
The so called Whites are not from the Middle East but from South Central Asia, their point of origin.
You can still find white skinned populations in Northern Afghanistan, called the Nuristani.
Many of them have blond or red hair and blue or green eyes.
They live in caves just like White people did before migrating all over the world, including Europe
The Middle East aka Western Asia was inhabited by dark brown skinned people of several types before they were invaded, erased and replaced by white skinned populations.
1) Ethiopoid type still found in Yemen;
2) Veddoid type;
3) Dravidian type.
That is why you can find people with the so called "Mediterranean look"--which is, actually a hybrid type of 1/4 black and 3/4 white-- far far away from the Meditterranean region in places where Ethiopoid, Veddoid and Dravidian populations had been absorbed by invading white tribes.
Now I wonder why it is the ancient SUMERIANS PAINTED THEMSELVES AS WHITE: White ancient Sumerian:
www.tarotcanada.org/SumerianDivination.html
Ethiopians ARE PITCH BLACK AFRICANS RELATED THROUGH MTDNA TO SUB-SAHARAN AFRICANS!!!!!!!!!!Middle Eastern people DO NOT carry Sub-Saharan MTDNA STUPID!!!!!!!!!!There is some Dravidian DNA but according to scientists the ancient Sumerians were Caucasian!
Sumerians portray themselves as W H I T E:
www.arthistoryworlds.org/sculpture-from-sumer...
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#21903 Feb 7, 2014
KiloEcho wrote:
African AE said
ONE MORE TIME, EUROPEANS CAME FROM THE MIDDLE EAST:
www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/worldmtdnamap....
KiloEcho replies
Repeating the same lies over and over again will not make the truth go away
Europe is a subcontinent of the Eurasian continent
The so called Whites originated from South Central Asia and migrated west to Europe.
The so called Whites are not from the Middle East but from South Central Asia, their point of origin.
You can still find white skinned populations in Northern Afghanistan, called the Nuristani.
Many of them have blond or red hair and blue or green eyes.
They live in caves just like White people did before migrating all over the world, including Europe
The Middle East aka Western Asia was inhabited by dark brown skinned people of several types before they were invaded, erased and replaced by white skinned populations.
1) Ethiopoid type still found in Yemen;
2) Veddoid type;
3) Dravidian type.
That is why you can find people with the so called "Mediterranean look"--which is, actually a hybrid type of 1/4 black and 3/4 white-- far far away from the Meditterranean region in places where Ethiopoid, Veddoid and Dravidian populations had been absorbed by invading white tribes.
Europeans carry the SAME Haplogroups as Middle Eastern people! Thats why Mediterranean people look so much like INDIGENOUS Middle Eastern people! The highest percentage Haplogroup in Europe is Haplogroup R1B!! It originated IN THE MIDDLE EAST! These are the ANCESTORS OF EUROPEANS and a person can see exactly why:
www.youtube.com/watch...
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#21904 Feb 7, 2014
Europeans have less than 3% Sub-Saharan DNA and some Northern Europeans HAVE NO AFRICAN DNA at all! So much for the Vikings being black!

Level 5

Since: Sep 12

Kinshasa, Congo, The Democratic Republic of the

#21905 Feb 7, 2014
African AE said

READ SLOWLY and take your head out your butt;

Civilized f--king backside, no only do they have black African slaves, they behead women for adultry and marry girls under 10:

www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/saudi-o...
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/nov/08...

KiloEcho replies

Slavery has nothing to do with race or a particular race, the black race as you are alluding to

The most famous slaves in the world are, in fact, Europeans (aka Whites). This historical truth is rarely taught in most Western schools.

Europeans were slaves under different appellations in Africa and Asia.

1) Janissaries:The Janissaries were infantry Musketeer units that formed the Ottoman sultan's household troops and bodyguards. The force was created by the Sultan Murad I from Christian boys levied through the dev&#351;irme system from conquered countries in the 14th century[1] and was abolished by Sultan Mahmud II in 1826 in the Auspicious Incident.[2]. The dev&#351;irme was the practice by which the Ottoman Empire forcibly took boys from Christian families, who were selected by skilled scouts to be trained and enrolled in one of the four imperial institutions: the Palace, the Scribes, the Religious and the Military.

2) Mameluks: A Mamluk was a soldier of SLAVE origin, who were predominantly Cumans or Kipchak[1][2] and later Circassian and Georgian.Over time, mamluks became a powerful military caste in various Muslim societies. Particularly in Egypt, but also in the Levant, Iraq, and India, mamluks held political and military power.

3) Saqaliba: The term refers to the Slavs, particularly Slavic slaves and mercenaries in the medieval Arab world, in the Middle East, North Africa, Sicily and Al-Andalus. It is generally thought that the Arabic term is a Byzantine loanword: saqlab, siklab, saqlabi etc. is a corruption of Greek Sklavinoi for "Slavs". The word was also often used more generally to refer to all slaves from Central and Eastern Europe.[1]

4) Barbary slaves: Moors and Arabs located in the Barbary Coast (North Africa) captured more than 1 million slaves from Europe. They were pirates who attacked European villages and ships. The most daring even attacked American ships. The Barbary pirates went as far as Iceland to capture slaves. There were slaves markets in North Africa where Europeans were sold.

Many of the slavers were dark skinned peoples from Africa and Asia. Some of them would be considered Black by US standards (the one drop rule).

Even today, there are thousands of women of European origin (Eastern Europe) who are sex trafficked around the world, including the Middle East.
Bigsmoke

Bridgwater, UK

#21906 Feb 7, 2014
Pere du Champ wrote:
<quoted text>
Clustered on what basis? DNA? Morphology?
In any case, you'll notice that human remains from the Maghreb for over 30,000 years have consistently shown both morphology and DNA of Eurasian type.
DNA

West Eurasians (South Asians & Europeans) are mostly closer related to East Africans (Nilo-Saharans) than East Eurasians (East Asians & Native Americans) so you can't just say ''Eurasian types'' there are two major types of Eurasians; West or East.
Citizen 1986

UK

#21911 Feb 7, 2014
Pere du Champ wrote:
<quoted text>
Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Arab states have plenty of slavery. Most of it is of non-Arab Moslems from countries like Bangladesh and Malaysia. Saudi Arabia is one of the world's worst human-rights disasters.
They aren't slaves stop lying.
Bigsmoke

Bridgwater, UK

#21912 Feb 7, 2014
Pere du Champ wrote:
<quoted text>
That is incorrect. W Eurasians are closer to E Eurasians.
Look at the Y-types in the east. NOP, offspring of Mideastern-originated K, was in India/Central Asia. This splits, N being the Uralic marker, common in Europe, O that of E Asia. P gives rise to Q and R. Q is common in northeast Eurasia and America, while R is the indoeuropean marker, common in Europe.
They're all related, east and west! And K itself came from IJK...
Eurasians are all related to each other, more than to Africans.
The only exception you could find is when there is African DNA mixed with Eurasians (as in the Mideast, Iran, Europe), or Eurasian DNA in Africa (as in the Maghreb, Egypt, northeast Africa, W Africa).
All of this is a cheap Afronazi attempt to make Cro-Magnon “black”, since you cannot get around the presence of Cro-Magnon types in the Maghreb over 30,000 years ago. LOL!!!
In the process, you have to try to make Y-type I and mtDNA U African! LOL!!!
Face facts: the Maghreb has been populated by eurasians for over 30,000 years.
West Eurasians are closer related to East Africans than to East Eurasians as West Eurasians and East Africans descend from a more closer common ancestry than they do with East Eurasians.

Middle Easterners (Southwestern Asians & Northern Africans) like Horn of Africa populations lie in between West Eurasian and East African. Southwestern Asians being mostly on the West Eurasian side while Horn of Africans mostly on the East African side.
Citizen 1986

UK

#21915 Feb 7, 2014
Pere du Champ wrote:
<quoted text>
Human remains cannot be ignored. Archaeology which does not confirm genetic findings raises questions. For the most part archaeology has confirmed OOA, with a few exceptions.
In the case of the Maghreb, we have human remains whose morphology AND DNA is Eurasian... yet you Afronazis can't accept that clear and irrefutable evidence.
So what are you whining about now?
Whinning about what who cares about skeletons in the maghreb you are just using it to prove your stupid point. Because you have crog manon or whatever in the maghreb doesn't make it predominantly anything its not in their DNA. What was the DNA of the cromagnon and what is the DNA of the countries in the magreb. They found ancient skeletons in Nigeria does that mean Nigerians have the same DNA as the skeleton. You have no point with your 30ky eurasian BS because its not in their DNA.
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#21916 Feb 7, 2014
Bigsmoke wrote:
<quoted text>
West Eurasians are closer related to East Africans than to East Eurasians as West Eurasians and East Africans descend from a more closer common ancestry than they do with East Eurasians.
Middle Easterners (Southwestern Asians & Northern Africans) like Horn of Africa populations lie in between West Eurasian and East African. Southwestern Asians being mostly on the West Eurasian side while Horn of Africans mostly on the East African side.
Um...Europeans are closely related to Middle Eastern people, their ancestors! Ethiopians are more closely related to Sub-Saharan Africans through MTDNA than anyone else! Ethiopian Y-DNA is only 18% Eurasian and they are more related to Saudi Arabs where they originally got their Eurasian Y-DNA from!
Citizen 1986

UK

#21917 Feb 7, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>READ SLOWLY and take your head out your butt;
Civilized f--king backside, no only do they have black African slaves, they behead women for adultry and marry girls under 10:
www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/saudi-o...
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/nov/08...
So f*cking what they don't have black slaves stop lying.Because of one fake facebook article we are to believe Saudi Arabia have castrated black slaves you are a joker. In my country we pratice sharia laws adultry gets you beheaded and you are allowed to marry underage girls so that makes us back ward. Its a muslim tradition its in their laws so stop the lying and fake propaganda. I lived in Saudi Arabia most of their domestic staffs aren't even black or are they hiding all the castrated black slaves. Other Arab countries like UAE, Kuwait, Qatar at least have been there and their domestic staff aren't blacks they are either indians, filipinos etc
Citizen 1986

UK

#21922 Feb 7, 2014
Bigsmoke wrote:
<quoted text>
DNA
West Eurasians (South Asians & Europeans) are mostly closer related to East Africans (Nilo-Saharans) than East Eurasians (East Asians & Native Americans) so you can't just say ''Eurasian types'' there are two major types of Eurasians; West or East.
In his mind its just Europe and the Middle East all other Asians countries don't fit. Even syria to him isn't in Eurasia.
Citizen 1986

UK

#21923 Feb 7, 2014
Pere du Champ wrote:
<quoted text>
Óh yes they are. Many have their passports taken and are forced into slavery. The “guest workers” in the Gulf states are at high risk. This has been an international scandal for some time, but in the West they won't speak out against anyone with a lot of oil...
Islam breeds this kind of crap. It's an evil system, clearly.
Okay I get where your coming from they actual do that there but its not restricted to that region it happens everywhere. Even the so called countries involved do it to themselves and most come from really poor backgrounds and have no other choice.
Bigsmoke

Bridgwater, UK

#21924 Feb 7, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Um...Europeans are closely related to Middle Eastern people, their ancestors! Ethiopians are more closely related to Sub-Saharan Africans through MTDNA than anyone else! Ethiopian Y-DNA is only 18% Eurasian and they are more related to Saudi Arabs where they originally got their Eurasian Y-DNA from!
Europeans distant ancestors are long dead the people in the Middle East today are not their ancestors.

My point is West Eurasians are closer related to East Africans than East Eurasians.

Ethiopia is a sub-Saharan African country...

Maternal (mtDNA) and paternal (y-DNA) linages can not tell a person or population their entire ancestry, very far from it in fact rather it traces one back go a single ancestor in their ancestry.
Bigsmoke

Bridgwater, UK

#21927 Feb 7, 2014
Pere du Champ wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you talking about DNA or morphological traits?
Also this issue is complicated in modern times by the fact that so many of those peoples are mixed with each other.
Going back to ancestral types, Eurasians are collectively closer to NE Africans than the NE Africans are to W-Central Africans, since Eurasians are genetically a subset of NE Africans.
Notice that Afronazism creates a mirror-image of Eurocentric BS. Eurocentrics claimed the NE Africans (L3) as “Caucasoid”, so Afronazis claim the Mideast and Cro-Magnon as “black”. LOL!!!
Nearly EVERY Afronazi claim can be traced to some racist Eurocentric 19-century crap.
How amusing (though sociopathic).
DNA

There can't be a collective of Eurasia without ultimately resorting to the collective we call human. The first/highest yet minute distinctions between human diversity are roughly those clusters I explained before (I missed out W African by accident before):
Southern African (Khoisan)
Central African (Pygmy)
West African (Central-West Africans)
East African (Nilo-Saharan)
West Eurasian (Indo-European/ Europe & Indian Subcontinent)
East Eurasian (East Asia & Native American)
Southeast Asian (N.grito)
Australian (Aboriginies)

Middle Easterners (Southwestern Asians & North Africans) largely lie in between East African and West Eurasian they're not their own cluster rather an intermediate between two.

Common ancestry
S African <> Australian >70,000 years ago (most distantly related in humanity)
E African <> W Eurasian <20,000 years ago
E Eurasian <> W Eurasian ~30,000 years ago
Citizen 1986

UK

#21928 Feb 7, 2014
Pere du Champ wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no point except for racists like you obsessed with skin color. How dark is “darker”, lol.
I mean... there is today still a variation in color among Europeans, as well as the Mideast, and in fact everywhere.
Example: I've been around Japanese who were the color of the average Mexican, and others as white as any whitey. So are the dark ones “black”? LOL... Arabs from “white” to brown... Jews likewise...
The obsession with skin color of Cro-Magnon is absurd. Afronazis want to believe that if any Cro-Magnon person was darker than Gwynyth Paltrow that makes them “black”, lol!!! There are plenty of people who are significantly dark in color who are still Eurasians, and even Caucasoids.
Skin color tells us SQUAT about relationship.
Why are you posting to me I didn't make the statement I just replied. Other countries can have various skin tones but South of the Sahara is only allowed to be pitch black. You are a hypocrate .

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