the moors were black africans not ara...

mandingowillsay
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#21793 Feb 4, 2014
Pere du Champ wrote:
<quoted text>
In your dreams, racist scum.
No Afronazi in here has ever scored a point against anyone!
They have no real evidence, whereas some of us in here do know the science. I am one of those.
Obviously you are not, boy.
no you stupid NAZI wannabe, there is not one person here who has not scored against your dumb wannabbe NAZI ass and cohorts.

You have been intellectually obliterated but are just too STUPID to see and understand that. Explain why a people who are indigenous to a place would have one of the highest rates of skin cancer in the world? They have this phenomena for one reason and one reason alone; THEY ARE NOT HISTORICALLY CONNECTED TO THE AREA OR REGION THEY NOW OCCUPY. The only climate they'd be safe in is in Europe you fool. They are European period. If they were from Israel they'd be acclimatized like the ARAB and JEW Semite who have been there for thousands of years. THESE SEMITES ARE DARK SKINNED SOMETIMES WITH THICK WIRY AND CURLY HAIR LIKE MANY SOMALIANS.

Grow up idiot stop making a fool of yourself.

http://www.skincancer.gov.au/internet/skincan...

"Australia has the highest skin cancer incidence rate in the world1.
Australians are four times more likely to develop a skin cancer than any other form of cancer2.
Approximately two in three Australians will be diagnosed with skin cancer before the age of 70"

Now why is this the case in Australia? BECAUSE IN AUSTRALIA WHITES ARE ALSO NOT ABORIGINAL TO THAT LAND THEY CAME AS INVADERS. THE EXACT SAME SCENARIO IS BEING REPLAYED CLOSER TO HOME IN ISRAEL.

THEY HAVE THE SECOND HIGHEST RATE OF SKIN CANCER IN THE WORLD BECAUSE WHITES ARE NOT INDIGENOUS TO THE MIDDLE EAST.

Level 5

Since: Sep 12

Kinshasa, Congo, The Democratic Republic of the

#21794 Feb 4, 2014
mandingowillsay said

The ancient Egyptians were not multi-racial you stupid shit.

WHITE PEOPLE WERE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANCIENT EGYPT.

You came there as invaders after everything had already been built.

The same way you arrived on every other part of the globe.

KiloEcho replies

Paul Gaffarel (1843-1920), a scientist and a prolific historian of French descent wrote a wonderful passage on races and world dominance.

Several races seem to have, in turn, exercised world dominance, and been at the forefront of civilization.

The order of succession is now very difficult to determine.

However, the Black race appears to be the first.

The Malays hunted down Blacks in the islands of Polynesia; the Hindus chased them far into the interior of the Deccan and Ceylon.

Blacks are represented in Egyptian monuments and easily recognizable by the color of their skin, snub nose and slanted eyes.

They were later replaced by invaders.

THE FINAL TRIUMPH OF OUR RACE (THE WHITE RACE) DATES BACK ONLY FROM THE 16C WHEN NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES WERE DESTROYED OR ABSORBED BY EUROPEANS.
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Baldwin, John D. John Denison (1809-1883) who was a member of the prestigious American Oriental Society wrote the following:

It is now admitted that a people of the Cushite or Ethiopian race, sometimes called Hamites, were the first civilizers and builders throughout Western Asia, and they are traced, by remains of their language, their architecture, and the influence of their civilization, on both shores of the Mediterranean, in Eastern Africa and the Nile valley, in Hindustan, and in the islands of the Indian Seas.

A race or family is not necessarily inferior to others because it comes into the history of civilization neither latest, nor superior because it appears there first.

It was not our own proud Aryan race that created the great civilizations of Arabia, Chaldea, and the Old Monarchy of Egypt.

Our race was preceded in development by others, and IT IS WAS IN TIMES QUITE MODERN THAT OUR OWN FAMILY OF THE RACE TOOK ITS PLACE AMONG THE FOREMOST.
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M. Constantine de Volney, Travels through Syria and Egypt in the Years 1783-1785 (London 1787)

The Egyptian must have been real N@groes of the same species of the natives of Africa”.

In other words, the ancient Egyptians were true N@groes of the same stock as all the autochthonous people of Africa and from the datum one sees how their race, after some centuries of mixing with the blood of the Romans and Greeks, must have lost the full blackness of its original color but retained the impress of its original mold.
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WHITE SUPREMACY IS A FANTASY POPULARIZED BY THE WHITE SUPREMACY PROPAGANDA MACHINE CREATED IN 18C EUROPE AT THE HEIGHT OF SCIENTIFIC RACISM AND EUROPEAN IMPERIALISM/COLONIALISM

How the Moors described their European foes: Sa-id of Andalusia wrote the following of his White Iberian opponents:

They “are nearer animals than men ... They are by nature unthinking and their manners crude. Their bellies protrude; their color is white and their hair is long.

In sharpness and delicacy of spirit and in intellectual perspicacity, they are nil. Ignorance, lack of reasoning power and boorishness are common among them.”(Kitab Tabakat al Umaxn (Blachere K. p. 36. 1935).

mandingowillsay
Level 4

Since: May 12

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#21796 Feb 4, 2014
Pere du Champ wrote:
<quoted text>
Moron. Ancient Egypt was mixed. Calling the eurasian component “white” is misleading. Europeans were not part of the mix. Mideasterners were. Eurasians, but not Europeans. Whether you call them “white” or not is meaningless. Are Iraqis today “white”? Are Jews? Lebanese? Who cares? Only a racist obsesses on that classification, which is scientifically meaningless, and so I care 0% about it.
The point is that while ancient Egypt/Kemet was a civilization which arose in Upper Egypt among BLACK (so-called) people, by which I mean AFRICANS, in this case with cultural and biological affinities to Nubians, still in Lower Egypt there had been Eurasians since predynastic times, just as there were predynastic Natufians (Africans) in the Levant (Eurasia).
Your logic is flawed. If Eurasians participated in the building of the pyramids, then why didn't Siberians build pyramids? LOL... it's a STUPID QUESTION, fool. Europeans did build stone monuments, but far earlier than the Egyptian pyramids, and so the structures were more primitive architecturally. They did contain elements which were passed on to Egypt and incorporated into the pyramids, whose outer shape was of Nubian derivation, but the passageway tomb was European.
This passageway tomb complex spread, and can be dated in a sequence moving eastward, and through Malta, and thence to Egypt. Nonetheless, I see no evidence that Europeans were in Egypt. The point is that Europeans were developing architectural traits which diffused to Egypt. Just as Vincan writing diffused to Sumer.
You know nothing about European religion(s), obviously. Celtic and other Europaganism is having a resurgence now, and was present in the Vincan civilizations, Megalithic Europe, La Têne society, etc.
You're simply a racist of Nazi type, who thinks that a particular “race”(also a bogus concept) is inferior or superior.
That makes you subhuman scum, boy.
Ancient Egyptians were BLACK AFRICANS NOT ARAB OR SOMETHING CALLED EURASIAN. They were a Cushitic people (BLACK AFRICAN).

Europeans were not creating architecture that defused to Egypt you lying history falsifying prick. at Egypt's foundation Germanic and Slavic Europe did not even have architecture; there was no architecture anywhere in the entire western Europe hemisphere you lying fool.

You get no credit for Egypt and absolutely none for Greece or Rome. These were nothing to do with Germanic Europe, nothing at all. And again till you can show me the movement like the BNP any Black person is part of do not waste your time claiming any Black person is a racist you evil lying scumbag.

mandingowillsay
Level 4

Since: May 12

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#21798 Feb 4, 2014
Pere du Champ wrote:
<quoted text>
Having a hissy fit, boy?
What I'm saying is that the terms “white” and “black” are meaningless, based only on skin color, which tells us NOTHING about the relationships of the people.
In the case of Andamanese or Melanesians, they are dark in color, but they are 100% Eurasian! They are the offspring of OOA migrants. They are not Africans. Africans are the non-OOA people who have genetic characteristics such as Y-DNA of group E, and mtDNA of L types.(Lo, L1, L2, etc.). OOA represents a real split between the two continents.
So... a Melanesian is more closely related to a Swede, Nepalese or Cherokee than to an African. That is undeniable FACT confirmed by the DNA. Look at DNA geneological chart or tree, and this is very obvious.
The mtDNA of those Eurasian “black” people is M. That is Eurasian. Their Y DNA includes C, D, K and M. All Eurasian.
You're still attempting to categorize people by the measurement of physical traits (such as skin color, hair texture, etc.), in the manner of anthropologists in the 1920's such as the white racist Carleton Coon.
DAMN, you're stupid, boy!
As for your raving out-of-control antisemitic Nazi madness, boy, again, the DNA confirms that Ashkenazim descend from ancient Mideasterners, which obviously would be Hebrews. One often can't tell from the DNA the difference between a Jew and Arabs such as “Palestinians”, Iraqis, etc. So the Ashkenazim mixed with Euros (mostly Slavs), so what? Arabs in the Mideast, especially in the north (Lebanon, Syria, Iraq) are also mixed with the Eurasian relatives of Euros, type R Indoeuropeans (Aryans), so aren't they real Chaldeans or Aramaeans or whatever?
Lose the vile racism before attempting to discuss science with me, boy.
No the term BLACK is not only about skin colour in this case you lying shit. In this case the term is applied because Melanesian people, Negrito, and many other groups have Black skin, kinky hair, tropicalised limbs, wide flat noses and big butts. get it you lying fool? IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE SKIN COLOUR YOU EVIL WANNABE NAZI.

No DNA confirms (the several links I posted) show that AshkeNAZI come from Europe period. That is where the largest part of anything found in their blood comes from, they are Europeans not Semite Jews you fool.

mandingowillsay
Level 4

Since: May 12

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#21799 Feb 4, 2014
Ancient Egypt was not Multi-racial and there is and WAS NO SUCH THING AS A Eurasian race. Stop using arbitrary and meaningless terms to lie to people.
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#21800 Feb 4, 2014
KiloEcho wrote:
mandingowillsay said
The ancient Egyptians were not multi-racial you stupid shit.
WHITE PEOPLE WERE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANCIENT EGYPT.
You came there as invaders after everything had already been built.
The same way you arrived on every other part of the globe.
KiloEcho replies
Paul Gaffarel (1843-1920), a scientist and a prolific historian of French descent wrote a wonderful passage on races and world dominance.
Several races seem to have, in turn, exercised world dominance, and been at the forefront of civilization.
The order of succession is now very difficult to determine.
However, the Black race appears to be the first.
The Malays hunted down Blacks in the islands of Polynesia; the Hindus chased them far into the interior of the Deccan and Ceylon.
Blacks are represented in Egyptian monuments and easily recognizable by the color of their skin, snub nose and slanted eyes.
They were later replaced by invaders.
THE FINAL TRIUMPH OF OUR RACE (THE WHITE RACE) DATES BACK ONLY FROM THE 16C WHEN NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES WERE DESTROYED OR ABSORBED BY EUROPEANS.
----------
Baldwin, John D. John Denison (1809-1883) who was a member of the prestigious American Oriental Society wrote the following:
It is now admitted that a people of the Cushite or Ethiopian race, sometimes called Hamites, were the first civilizers and builders throughout Western Asia, and they are traced, by remains of their language, their architecture, and the influence of their civilization, on both shores of the Mediterranean, in Eastern Africa and the Nile valley, in Hindustan, and in the islands of the Indian Seas.
A race or family is not necessarily inferior to others because it comes into the history of civilization neither latest, nor superior because it appears there first.
It was not our own proud Aryan race that created the great civilizations of Arabia, Chaldea, and the Old Monarchy of Egypt.
Our race was preceded in development by others, and IT IS WAS IN TIMES QUITE MODERN THAT OUR OWN FAMILY OF THE RACE TOOK ITS PLACE AMONG THE FOREMOST.
----------
M. Constantine de Volney, Travels through Syria and Egypt in the Years 1783-1785 (London 1787)
The Egyptian must have been real N@groes of the same species of the natives of Africa”.
In other words, the ancient Egyptians were true N@groes of the same stock as all the autochthonous people of Africa and from the datum one sees how their race, after some centuries of mixing with the blood of the Romans and Greeks, must have lost the full blackness of its original color but retained the impress of its original mold.
----------
WHITE SUPREMACY IS A FANTASY POPULARIZED BY THE WHITE SUPREMACY PROPAGANDA MACHINE CREATED IN 18C EUROPE AT THE HEIGHT OF SCIENTIFIC RACISM AND EUROPEAN IMPERIALISM/COLONIALISM
How the Moors described their European foes: Sa-id of Andalusia wrote the following of his White Iberian opponents:
They “are nearer animals than men ... They are by nature unthinking and their manners crude. Their bellies protrude; their color is white and their hair is long.
In sharpness and delicacy of spirit and in intellectual perspicacity, they are nil. Ignorance, lack of reasoning power and boorishness are common among them.”(Kitab Tabakat al Umaxn (Blachere K. p. 36. 1935).
EXTREMELY OUTDATED LINKS 1800!!! Modern DNA has proven there were WHITE Egyptians at the time of the pyramids! CRY AFRONAZI CRY!!!!!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankhhaf
DNA from Ramesses 2 haie shows he was a white man with red hair in his youth!!!!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#21801 Feb 4, 2014
mandingowillsay wrote:
Ancient Egypt was not Multi-racial and there is and WAS NO SUCH THING AS A Eurasian race. Stop using arbitrary and meaningless terms to lie to people.
VERY WHITE EGYPTIANS:
www.burlingtonnews.net/redhairedmummiesegypt....
White man builds/designs Sphinx:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankhhaf
Of course hair taken from Rmesses 2 shows he was a SNOW WHITE MAN who had red hair in his youth! Not talking about dye! FORENSICS EXPERTS can tell the race of a thug by examining his hair! FACT!!!!
Afronazis live in a world of make belief and fantasy!!!!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#21802 Feb 4, 2014
mandingowillsay wrote:
<quoted text>
No the term BLACK is not only about skin colour in this case you lying shit. In this case the term is applied because Melanesian people, Negrito, and many other groups have Black skin, kinky hair, tropicalised limbs, wide flat noses and big butts. get it you lying fool? IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE SKIN COLOUR YOU EVIL WANNABE NAZI.
No DNA confirms (the several links I posted) show that AshkeNAZI come from Europe period. That is where the largest part of anything found in their blood comes from, they are Europeans not Semite Jews you fool.
Yes they are black, bumbo, BUT THEY ARE NOT AFRICANS!!!!
2014/12 Latest research on Ashkenazi Jews show they ARE RELATED TO THE ISRAELITES!
www.kurdishdna.blog.com/2013/12/ashkenazi-lev...
Afronazis whacked once again!!!!!!!!!!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#21804 Feb 4, 2014
A Child Of AHAYAH wrote:
<quoted text> This is who you are and where you really come from?????? Stolen Legacy
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Challenging the notion that civilization started in Greece, this uncompromising classic attempts to prove that the true authors of Greek philosophy were not Greeks but Egyptians. The text asserts that the praise and honor blindly given to the Greeks for centuries rightfully belong to the people of Africa, and argues that the theft of this great African legacy led to the erroneous world opinion that the African continent has made no contribution to civilization. Quoting such celebrated Greek scholars as Herodotus, Hippocrates, Aristotle, Thales, and Pythagoras, who admit to the influence of Egyptian studies in their work, this edition sheds new light on traditional philosophical and historical thought. Originally published in 1954, this book features a new introduction.
AFRONAZI RUBBISH not worth answering!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#21805 Feb 4, 2014
mandingowillsay wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem with this is that you continue to quote the fraudulent pseudo-science Whites have used to distort history and claim heritages that do not belong to them. There are reasons there are no WHITE people who have an Afro-Asiatic language as their original language. There is also a reason there is not one civilization in Western Europe that can even mimic anything in Africa or the Middle East. You have no ancient history because your ancestors were simply not capable of building any.
This is why you use pseudo fraud science to try and con the world. NO New Guineans as well as Melanesian people and Negrito's with their Black skin and kinky hair are in fact Black people. Attempting to wipe all Black and Brown skin people out will not make them anything less. Nor will using science to misidentify people as anything other than what they are hide what people are.
They are Black but not Black African!!! What does that stupid comment even mean? They are Black people idiot and do not need to be African to be Black. The same way you are not expecting Arabs and North East Africans with high European admix to be European to be White.
None of your claims hold any water or make any sense. You simply post a parable of nonsense.
They carry NO BLACK AFRICAN DNA you low IQ imbecile!!!

Level 5

Since: Sep 12

Kinshasa, Congo, The Democratic Republic of the

#21806 Feb 4, 2014
Pere du Champ said

You even state that the Berbers are like the Canadian Métis, a people created by immigrant mixing.

This is FALSE, unless by immigrants you mean the Eurasians and northeast Africans migrating in many millennia before history.

KiloEcho replies

Pere du Champs is one of your aliases, Barros.

You are drowning in denial, as usual.

http://www.esf.org/fileadmin/Public_documents...

The berber and the Berber: genetic and linguistic diversity

Principal investigators:

• Jean-Michel Dugoujon, CNRS and Université Paul Sabatier, Toulouse III, France
• Pedro Moral Castrillo, Universitat de Barcelona, Spain

Funding organisations:

• Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique/ National Centre for Scientific Research (CNRS)
• Ministerio de Educación y Ciencia/ Spanish Ministry of Education and Science (MEC)

Scientific results:

This project has confirmed the intricate division of the Berber language group.

On the one hand, one has a typologically well-definable unit, Northern Berber, as opposed to a number of other groups.

On the other hand, there is hardly anything that confirms the genealogical nature of the Northern Berber sub-group.

In fact, what makes up Northern Berber is best described as a linguistic convergence area.

As a result, it is questionable that an overall sub-classification is possible at all.

At a more local level, some sub-groups which may be considered genetic have been established, such as Zenatic; THE IDENTIFICATION OF ZENAGA OF MAURITANIA AS THE FIRST BRANCHING OF THE BERBER LANGUAGE TREE IS STRENGTHENED.

Our genetic results show that Berbers occupy an intermediate position between European and "sub-Saharan" populations.

One observes a genetic differentiation between Northwestern and Northeastern African groups: populations from the Maghreb are related to European and Middle Eastern populations whereas populations of High Egypt have more affinities with "sub-Saharans" and East Africans.

There is a clear and significant genetic difference between Berbers from Maghreb and Egyptian Berbers, with the first being related to Europeans while the latter share more affinities with East Africans
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Human Alu insertion polymorphisms in North African populations (2011 DNA study)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22146064

Taken together, results on Y chromosome, mtDNA and Alu Insertions in North Africa allow to propose a scenario for this region.

The ancient “sub-Saharan” settlement would have been followed by admixture with Iberian populations.

But, as the North African Y chromosome remained dominant in the region, we could argue that this admixture have been realized in one direction: NORTH AFRICAN MEN AND EURASIAN WOMEN

explaining the gene flow from Europe and high frequency of European types of mtDNA in North Africa as compared with Y chromosome.

This situation would not be the result of drift toward Eurasian mtDNA.

Our results on Alu insertions interestingly confirm that this gene flow happened several times probably always on the same direction.

These matrimonial exchanges between North Africa and Europe should be considered in a context of patriarchal societies with men attached to territory and women from different regions including Europe.

HENCE, GENETIC DIVERSITY ON ONE HAND AND RELATIONSHIP WITH EUROPE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DUE TO WOMEN
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African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#21807 Feb 4, 2014
Im still waiting for these dumb Afronazis to tell me how the pitch black Moors turned white in 500 years LOL...Iv asked them to give the name of one Moorish black King and got NO answer! I asked for one black Moorish scientist and they never gave me an answer!!!! Afronazis live in a make believe fake fairy world!!
Modern Moors look just like the Spanish. Spanish have 2% black African DNA BUT MUCH MORE NORTH AFRICAN WHITE DNA!!!!!!!!!!GO FIGURE!!!
www.youtube.com/watch...
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#21808 Feb 4, 2014
KiloEcho wrote:
Pere du Champ said
You even state that the Berbers are like the Canadian Métis, a people created by immigrant mixing.
This is FALSE, unless by immigrants you mean the Eurasians and northeast Africans migrating in many millennia before history.
KiloEcho replies
Pere du Champs is one of your aliases, Barros.
You are drowning in denial, as usual.
http://www.esf.org/fileadmin/Public_documents...
The berber and the Berber: genetic and linguistic diversity
Principal investigators:
• Jean-Michel Dugoujon, CNRS and Université Paul Sabatier, Toulouse III, France
• Pedro Moral Castrillo, Universitat de Barcelona, Spain
Funding organisations:
• Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique/ National Centre for Scientific Research (CNRS)
• Ministerio de Educación y Ciencia/ Spanish Ministry of Education and Science (MEC)
Scientific results:
This project has confirmed the intricate division of the Berber language group.
On the one hand, one has a typologically well-definable unit, Northern Berber, as opposed to a number of other groups.
On the other hand, there is hardly anything that confirms the genealogical nature of the Northern Berber sub-group.
In fact, what makes up Northern Berber is best described as a linguistic convergence area.
As a result, it is questionable that an overall sub-classification is possible at all.
At a more local level, some sub-groups which may be considered genetic have been established, such as Zenatic; THE IDENTIFICATION OF ZENAGA OF MAURITANIA AS THE FIRST BRANCHING OF THE BERBER LANGUAGE TREE IS STRENGTHENED.
Our genetic results show that Berbers occupy an intermediate position between European and "sub-Saharan" populations.
One observes a genetic differentiation between Northwestern and Northeastern African groups: populations from the Maghreb are related to European and Middle Eastern populations whereas populations of High Egypt have more affinities with "sub-Saharans" and East Africans.
There is a clear and significant genetic difference between Berbers from Maghreb and Egyptian Berbers, with the first being related to Europeans while the latter share more affinities with East Africans
----------
Human Alu insertion polymorphisms in North African populations (2011 DNA study)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22146064
Taken together, results on Y chromosome, mtDNA and Alu Insertions in North Africa allow to propose a scenario for this region.
The ancient “sub-Saharan” settlement would have been followed by admixture with Iberian populations.
But, as the North African Y chromosome remained dominant in the region, we could argue that this admixture have been realized in one direction: NORTH AFRICAN MEN AND EURASIAN WOMEN
explaining the gene flow from Europe and high frequency of European types of mtDNA in North Africa as compared with Y chromosome.
This situation would not be the result of drift toward Eurasian mtDNA.
Our results on Alu insertions interestingly confirm that this gene flow happened several times probably always on the same direction.
These matrimonial exchanges between North Africa and Europe should be considered in a context of patriarchal societies with men attached to territory and women from different regions including Europe.
HENCE, GENETIC DIVERSITY ON ONE HAND AND RELATIONSHIP WITH EUROPE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DUE TO WOMEN
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DNA MAP showing BERBERS ARE INDIGENOUS WHITE NORTH AFRICANS:
www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogrou...
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#21809 Feb 4, 2014
Afronazis just cant bear the fact that there are INDIGENOUS WHITE AFRICANS living in North Africa! They carry the very INDIGENOUS North African Haplogroups !!!!!!!!!!
CRY CRY AFRONAZIS and of course there were white Egyptians living at the time of the pyramids! Some of them built the Sphinx and the largest pyramid at Giza! Ramesses 2 was white and probably one of the greatest Pharaohs ever! Also ancient Libyans were white as painted on the walls of ancient Egypt and on their ceramics! CRY AFRONAZIS!
www.catchpenny.org/race.html
Ramesses 2 pure white:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Berber_people
Moorish American

Washington, DC

#21811 Feb 4, 2014
Pere du Champ wrote:
<quoted text>
As usual, you use very old sources, which are not to be trusted. In fact the evidence is for Berber Moors, mostly, though quite often Arabs were in charge, in Iberia. There were blacks among them, but at first not as many. Black W African Moors were in Iberia mostly as almoravides or almohades.
The offensive part of the Afronazi “all-black Moor” scenario is that it eliminates the Berbers from history, pretends that back then W Africans were in the Maghreb, and were later replaced by Eurasians! In fact it is easily proven that Eurasians have inhabited the Maghreb for over 30,000 years.
You even state that the Berbers are like the Canadian Métis, a people created by immigrant mixing. This is FALSE, unless by immigrants you mean the Eurasians and northeast Africans migrating in many millennia before history.
Iberians clearly depicted in drawings and paintings the Moors who were among them, and they show mostly Eurasian types, especially in the earlier period of Moorish rule. Where you'd see a majority of blacks is among almoravides and almohades, and especially if you were to look at the Moors in Timbouktou or southern Atlas.
Some Moors were black, but your Afronazi assertions erase the Berbers, and that is unacceptable. They have enough problem with the Arabs in the Maghreb trying to pretend Berbers don't exist, without you Afronazi racists piling on.
Lol@afronazi... I certainly don't see myself as a one but hey I understand you're trying to undermine my POV by doing so. And even though you are correct in that West Africans came during the Almoravid and Almohade dynasties, they were very well there during the Umayyad period. The first wave of Muslims to cross into Spain were majority Black Africans, led by 1 named Tariq. It was common to use Africans in wartime due to their superior fighting skill. The majority of the Arabs came after a large portion of the lands were already conquered.

I didn't say there were no Arabs, I'm saying the majority were Black Africans. The term Moor itself is more of Nationality then a race, so the Moor Europeans would have encountered on a everyday basis were Black Africans. Even though Arabs were present.

As far as the Berbers are concerned, they fact is they are of mixed blood.
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#21812 Feb 4, 2014
FlowFighter wrote:
<quoted text>
So--pray telll-why is a crakkker POS like African AE living in South Africa??
Can you give a succinct statement of exactly why the crakkker vermin AE elects to live in South Africa..If that is where you are posting from.
thanx
Im Jewish/Asian LOL AFRONAZI HAVING A MELTDOWN!!!!!!!!!!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#21813 Feb 4, 2014
Moorish American wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol@afronazi... I certainly don't see myself as a one but hey I understand you're trying to undermine my POV by doing so. And even though you are correct in that West Africans came during the Almoravid and Almohade dynasties, they were very well there during the Umayyad period. The first wave of Muslims to cross into Spain were majority Black Africans, led by 1 named Tariq. It was common to use Africans in wartime due to their superior fighting skill. The majority of the Arabs came after a large portion of the lands were already conquered.
I didn't say there were no Arabs, I'm saying the majority were Black Africans. The term Moor itself is more of Nationality then a race, so the Moor Europeans would have encountered on a everyday basis were Black Africans. Even though Arabs were present.
As far as the Berbers are concerned, they fact is they are of mixed blood.
If the Moors were majority black then how did they suddenly turn white in 500 years????
White INDIGENOUS NORTH AFRICAN MOORS:
www.youtube.com/watch...
Sorry to burst your buble but Tariq was a white man as were all the Moorish Kings! Prove me wrong if you can!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tariq-ibn-Ziyad---...
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#21814 Feb 4, 2014
The MAJORITY of Y-DNA of Berbers show they are overwhelmingly INDIGENOUS North Africans:
www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogrou...
Moorish American

Washington, DC

#21815 Feb 4, 2014
The thing about so called outdated sources is that they contain less racial biases the post 1920 scientific studies. And I'm sure it was Caucasians in Lower Egypt (North Egypt), but they were not a majority or natives. Scientists trying to pass off foreigners as Egyptians.
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#21817 Feb 4, 2014
Moorish American wrote:
The thing about so called outdated sources is that they contain less racial biases the post 1920 scientific studies. And I'm sure it was Caucasians in Lower Egypt (North Egypt), but they were not a majority or natives. Scientists trying to pass off foreigners as Egyptians.
Um...Ramesses 2 and a lot of the other whites around at the time of the pyramids were North African Berbers!

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