India far poorer than Africa, new measure shows

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sotrue

Washington, DC

#1 Jun 9, 2012
MORE of the world's poor live in eight Indian states than in the 26 poorest African countries, according to a new UN-backed measure of poverty.

The Multidimensional Poverty Index looks beyond income at a wider range of household-level deprivation factors, including services, which could then be used to help target development resources. Its findings throw up stark statistics compared with regular poverty measures.

The study found that half of the world's MPI poor people live in South Asia, and just over a quarter in Africa.

There are 421 million MPI-poor people in eight Indian states alone - Bihar, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Madhya Pradesh, Orissa, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal - while there are 410 million in the 26 poorest African countries combined.

Madhya Pradesh state, with a population of 70 million, had almost identical poverty levels as the wartorn Democratic Republic of Congo, which is home to 62 million people.

The researchers said the extent of poverty in India had often been overlooked by figures comparing percentages of poor people in countries as a whole rather than sheer numbers.

For the rest http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/in...
sotrue

Washington, DC

#2 Jun 9, 2012
This confirms what i have always thought which is that the western media is bent on denigrating black people. The article in the OP was written in 2010 but if you watch the media you'd think that the majority of the world's poorest people were all in Africa. There's a fixation in the west with associating poverty with Africans and black people in general.
Real Truth

Attleboro, MA

#3 Jun 10, 2012
sotrue wrote:
This confirms what i have always thought which is that the western media is bent on denigrating black people. The article in the OP was written in 2010 but if you watch the media you'd think that the majority of the world's poorest people were all in Africa. There's a fixation in the west with associating poverty with Africans and black people in general.
LOL that Is infact done by Western media about India in many cases. Real question is what u consider poor?

Look I can 100,000 dollars in my bank account. But if I had spend 1,000 bucks a month to just to have a shelter, live and survive... then what's the point of having that 100,000 dollar with which I can live only 100 months?

Poor in terms of what?? Western dollar value that is inflated to a banana tree by the World bank and IMF?

Over a billion ppl in India survive because they have food, shelter and money something I see ppl daily struggle with even in Western countries. India doesn't have problems like Africa where many different states fight and have war with another. It is administer and run by one single state... unlike Africa. Now the purchasing power maybe low for regular people because most of these currencies are controlled by the World Bank. But thanks to China, most middle class Indians get just about everything they needs because of their internal trades.

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#4 Jun 10, 2012
There are black Indians. Anyone who says differently are color blind.
Real Truth

Attleboro, MA

#5 Jun 10, 2012
Also don't forget to consider, most of these states have internal economy and do business with another. That's why u see there is such uprising of middle to upper class in India. Imagine 1.5 billion ppl. Even 10% are rich then most Americans and 25% are middle to upper middle class... that is still 500 million, larger then the population of the United States who lives a very good lifestyle.

Yes, India might not have the infrastructure that only USA, Western Europe and some parts of Asia does... but again where do u have infrastructure other then few of the cities in these continents? Most of the middle American states or Chinese states doesn't have infrastructure either other then land and water.

And unfortunately even after having many resources in Africa, they haven't been able to utilize any which get used mostly by foreign domination.

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#6 Jun 10, 2012
Real Truth wrote:
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LOL that Is infact done by Western media about India in many cases. Real question is what u consider poor?
Look I can 100,000 dollars in my bank account. But if I had spend 1,000 bucks a month to just to have a shelter, live and survive... then what's the point of having that 100,000 dollar with which I can live only 100 months?
Poor in terms of what?? Western dollar value that is inflated to a banana tree by the World bank and IMF?
Over a billion ppl in India survive because they have food, shelter and money something I see ppl daily struggle with even in Western countries. India doesn't have problems like Africa where many different states fight and have war with another. It is administer and run by one single state... unlike Africa. Now the purchasing power maybe low for regular people because most of these currencies are controlled by the World Bank. But thanks to China, most middle class Indians get just about everything they needs because of their internal trades.
I sort of agree with this. Especially the part where you said billions of Indians survive because they have food and shelter.
No offense to the Africans.
Real Truth

Attleboro, MA

#7 Jun 10, 2012
Carmiana wrote:
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I sort of agree with this. Especially the part where you said billions of Indians survive because they have food and shelter.
No offense to the Africans.
The only place u see slums in India are some the cities which the Western media eager to show. These are some of the poorest people from different states that comes to have some opportunity in city life. However they never show the middle class to upper class, their culture or lifestyle. In any case, the rest of India may have some tin shade houses instead of homes made out of wood. They may dress a little different and eat different kinds of food. That's the difference I see.

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#8 Jun 10, 2012
This is impossible. India's Economy is growing.
blak brayn sergin

Tampa, FL

#9 Jun 10, 2012
big mike M wrote:
This is impossible. India's Economy is growing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =hBLpfEyhwbQXX
It's on youtube, must be true then smdh

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#12 Jun 10, 2012
Real Truth wrote:
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The only place u see slums in India are some the cities which the Western media eager to show. These are some of the poorest people from different states that comes to have some opportunity in city life. However they never show the middle class to upper class, their culture or lifestyle.
Lol, try some Bollywood movies. They show the upper class more then enough.
sotrue

Washington, DC

#13 Jun 10, 2012
Real Truth wrote:
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LOL that Is infact done by Western media about India in many cases. Real question is what u consider poor?
Look I can 100,000 dollars in my bank account. But if I had spend 1,000 bucks a month to just to have a shelter, live and survive... then what's the point of having that 100,000 dollar with which I can live only 100 months?
Poor in terms of what?? Western dollar value that is inflated to a banana tree by the World bank and IMF?
Over a billion ppl in India survive because they have food, shelter and money something I see ppl daily struggle with even in Western countries. India doesn't have problems like Africa where many different states fight and have war with another. It is administer and run by one single state... unlike Africa. Now the purchasing power maybe low for regular people because most of these currencies are controlled by the World Bank. But thanks to China, most middle class Indians get just about everything they needs because of their internal trades.
The international measure for poverty is a standard that is applied to people that earn less than a dollar or two a day. In a nutshell there are more people living under the international poverty line in India than in Africa.

You mentioned that African states are at war but actually that only applies to about six countries on a continent with over 50 countries. According to the main article "Madhya Pradesh state, with a population of 70 million, had almost identical poverty levels as the wartorn Democratic Republic of Congo, which is home to 62 million people." This is indeed food for thought.

Africa will seem poorer than India to those of us that live in the United States and other western countries simply because of media projection. In reality, there are more poor people in India than Africa by far.
sotrue

Washington, DC

#14 Jun 10, 2012
big mike M wrote:
This is impossible. India's Economy is growing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =hBLpfEyhwbQXX
There are many economies in African countries growing at a very rapid pace. This was acknowledged in the Economist in December last year. That article is accessible here. http://www.economist.com/node/21541015 The cover of the Economist read, "Africa rising." I was shocked to see this considering how harsh the Economist has been in its critiques on African countries in the past. The truth is undeniable i surmise.
sotrue

Washington, DC

#15 Jun 10, 2012
Carmiana wrote:
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I sort of agree with this. Especially the part where you said billions of Indians survive because they have food and shelter.
No offense to the Africans.
Some of that food and shelter that some poor Indians have has been the result of international donor funding. I read that earlier this year the Indian government started refusing aid from the British government. The British government insisted that the Indians needed it. This aid went towards the development projects to help underprivileged people in India.

http://news.oneindia.in/2012/02/06/india-refu...

Finally, not all Africans are homeless. There are 7 cities of low income housing under construction in Angola alone. We only see the Africans that live in war zones in shacks through our media.

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#16 Jun 10, 2012
sotrue wrote:
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There are many economies in African countries growing at a very rapid pace. This was acknowledged in the Economist in December last year. That article is accessible here. http://www.economist.com/node/21541015 The cover of the Economist read, "Africa rising." I was shocked to see this considering how harsh the Economist has been in its critiques on African countries in the past. The truth is undeniable i surmise.
I Already know Africa's economies are doing well. Africa has the worlds 6 fastest growing economy's.

I'm just shocked to hear India economy dropping. When many have said it should surpass China. I'm part India..
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#17 Jun 10, 2012
sotrue wrote:
This confirms what i have always thought which is that the western media is bent on denigrating black people. The article in the OP was written in 2010 but if you watch the media you'd think that the majority of the world's poorest people were all in Africa. There's a fixation in the west with associating poverty with Africans and black people in general.
Then where did so many people get the idea of India as full of poverty? Obviously this has been extensively reported already. I certainly knew about it. But then I'm far better informed than 99.9999999% of y'all.

There is extensive racism and bigotry directed at India from the West. The powers-that-be do not want people to know that:

1. India is the world's oldest civilization
2. For most of history, India has been the most advanced civilization
3. India for millenia was by far the most just and peaceful society on earth
4. India today has the potential to be the greatest superpower in history, and one which will remembered positively rather than as an imperialist parasite like the West, Muslims, China, etc.

India should be supported, economically as well as in its ongoing struggle against Islamoterrorism.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#18 Jun 10, 2012
sotrue wrote:
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The international measure for poverty is a standard that is applied to people that earn less than a dollar or two a day. In a nutshell there are more people living under the international poverty line in India than in Africa.
You mentioned that African states are at war but actually that only applies to about six countries on a continent with over 50 countries. According to the main article "Madhya Pradesh state, with a population of 70 million, had almost identical poverty levels as the wartorn Democratic Republic of Congo, which is home to 62 million people." This is indeed food for thought.
Africa will seem poorer than India to those of us that live in the United States and other western countries simply because of media projection. In reality, there are more poor people in India than Africa by far.
This doesn't mean that they are poorer in India than Africa overall. It means that India has 1.1 billion people!!!

India is rapidly developing and on its way to being a superpower. It is probably the only country in the world deserving of that status.
Real Truth

Attleboro, MA

#20 Jun 11, 2012
sotrue wrote:
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The international measure for poverty is a standard that is applied to people that earn less than a dollar or two a day. In a nutshell there are more people living under the international poverty line in India than in Africa.
You mentioned that African states are at war but actually that only applies to about six countries on a continent with over 50 countries. According to the main article "Madhya Pradesh state, with a population of 70 million, had almost identical poverty levels as the wartorn Democratic Republic of Congo, which is home to 62 million people." This is indeed food for thought.
Africa will seem poorer than India to those of us that live in the United States and other western countries simply because of media projection. In reality, there are more poor people in India than Africa by far.
LOL it seems like u are one of those Scum agents on a attack mode over here trying your best to make India poor. Even after reading my explanation that Dollar which is a Fake currency, backed up by literary Nothing... make living cost 10 to 15 times higher for average Americans here that many of them struggle to provide basic food and shelter for themselves. So what's the point of higher earnings if living costs are 10 to 15 times higher? In the end, u end up with no residuals! But u seem to have no problem totally skipping and ignoring that part.

Yea, India has many poor as many riches... So? What's ur f_kn point? If u are not one of those scum agents u should very well know that, India, Africa and many countries in Lain America are "poor" because of currency exchange policies set forth by the World Bank and IMF. Thus "2 dollars a day" concept comes in which infact nobody earns these days... even the lowest income earners earn at least 5 to 10 dollars a day. But news flash, they have no living costs other then to provide food and clothings for their family. Which many of them does very well. And these are the lowest income earners.
Real Truth

Attleboro, MA

#21 Jun 11, 2012
sotrue wrote:
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There are many economies in African countries growing at a very rapid pace. This was acknowledged in the Economist in December last year. That article is accessible here. http://www.economist.com/node/21541015 The cover of the Economist read, "Africa rising." I was shocked to see this considering how harsh the Economist has been in its critiques on African countries in the past. The truth is undeniable i surmise.
Africa is rising I have no problem with that. Good for u! Follow the developing countries. But don't put India down just because u can't make it on your own.
Real Truth

Attleboro, MA

#22 Jun 11, 2012
sotrue wrote:
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Some of that food and shelter that some poor Indians have has been the result of international donor funding. I read that earlier this year the Indian government started refusing aid from the British government. The British government insisted that the Indians needed it. This aid went towards the development projects to help underprivileged people in India.
http://news.oneindia.in/2012/02/06/india-refu...
Finally, not all Africans are homeless. There are 7 cities of low income housing under construction in Angola alone. We only see the Africans that live in war zones in shacks through our media.
Again u are talking like one of those scum agents. If u are a Real African u should know that, most of the aids provided by the Western countries has deep rooted policies and agenda. But in any case, India likes to be independent. It has enough land to provide basic food and shelter for its people.

U seem to act like a real hypocrite here. On one hand, u keep talking about how western media projects Africa as poor but not India, but then u seem to try ur best to make India poor... skipping and ignoring all my answers and logic. So who is the real hypocrite here? Western media or u?
Real Truth

Attleboro, MA

#23 Jun 11, 2012
sotrue wrote:
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Some of that food and shelter that some poor Indians have has been the result of international donor funding. I read that earlier this year the Indian government started refusing aid from the British government. The British government insisted that the Indians needed it. This aid went towards the development projects to help underprivileged people in India.
http://news.oneindia.in/2012/02/06/india-refu...
Finally, not all Africans are homeless. There are 7 cities of low income housing under construction in Angola alone. We only see the Africans that live in war zones in shacks through our media.
But instead of following the developing countries and make it ur own since ur are so jealous and trying ur best to make India poor... U should read my blog "What India is Today" on this forum..

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T90A3VK2V6A6T...

and watch this video-



I should also note that, last year India provided 5 Billion dollar (yea that's a Billion with a B) partnership Aid and assistance to Africa helping it in many ways. But if u are a hypocrite bigot, obviously u are going to miss that news acting like nothing happened which I know all Africans are not an ungrateful bigot like u.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/pm-announc...

Follow African news like u should Really follow it.

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