"Maddy" the juror from the Zimmerman Case

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SheleftnowIknow

Chicago, IL

#1 Jul 26, 2013
"Maddy" the juror from the Zimmerman Case. This lady is completely naive, if she actually believes she was not manipulated from the beginning. Maddy's understanding of the law pertaining to 2nd degree murder was completely incorrect. She appears to be very young,.. A group of people, can be the most irrational and be easily controlled,..A group a people that plans to change 1 person's mind,..can happen,..very easily. Florida chose her as a juror because they knew they could change her mind,...and did. I feel bad for her if she actually believes she was not manipulated from the beginning.

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#4 Jul 26, 2013
Maddy is soul sick because deep down inside she knows she made the wrong decision. She may be Hispanic, but she's a black Hispanic and if she has a son, he could very well meet the same fate as Trayvon and she knows it. She did not understand the law and was pressured by her fellow white, female jurors into accepting "their" understanding of the law.

As an aside, in a remarkably similar case that brought about the formation of the Asia American Community (whether they were Chinese, Korean, Japanese, etc.) they all joined together in what was at the time one of the largest protest demonstration against American Injustice and racism in this nation.

http://aaldef.org/blog/vincent-chin-rememberi...

Vincent Chin was murdered similar to Trayvon by two white cowards who chased him down and beat him to death with baseball bats. Vincent offered to fight one of the assailants one on one, but gun or bat, you're not going to get the fair one from racist cowards. It was supposed to be his bachelor's party and he was to be married the next day.

He and his friends went to a place Asians generally didn't go too. The mood, in the 80s was hostile for auto workers who felt Japan was ruining the American auto industry with their cars and of course, causing white men to lose their jobs and as minorities, we all know what happens when there's lots of them and of course weapons and few or one of us. Chin's mother stated after the airing of a show on ID Discovery about her son's death, that she thought the country would change, but not even the election of a black president has changed the racism and injustice of the system in this country and she pointed to the recent not guilty verdict Zimmerman received. Her son's murderers were guilty, but only received three years probation and a three thousand dollar fine setting off anger in the Asian community and demonstrations and a joining together of all Asians no matter their country of origin.

smdh

smdh

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#6 Jul 27, 2013
o-h-r-e-a-l-l-y wrote:
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Why, is her son a thug cadet casing homes in a community he doesn't live in,
....too?
You are a judgmental, ignorant, evil and wicked man. You lack true intelligence and thrive on agitation, hate, malice, venom and spite.

You're not only everything that's wrong in this nation, but the world too. People like you bring nothing to the table of mankind but hatred and division.

You're on a forum and you have yet to add anything of substance but juvenile slurs, links and tom foolery.

Grow the hell up you old fool! What a waste of life you are.
Truth Be Told

Louisville, KY

#7 Jul 27, 2013
Guess what race Maddy is? Then you'll KNOW why she thinks Trayvon is the victim, and Zimmerman got away with murder.

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#8 Jul 27, 2013
Truth Be Told wrote:
Guess what race Maddy is? Then you'll KNOW why she thinks Trayvon is the victim, and Zimmerman got away with murder.
She's Puerto Rican. You got a problem with that, RACIST? You didn't have a problem with the RACIST, WHITE WOMEN JURORS, DID YOU?

It's whites like you with your innate insecurity, racism, ignorance and hatred that make the white race look evil and stupid. There are whites who are sick of your kind tarnishing them as a race. They can withstand the truth, they can see things from another viewpoint and they can logically and critically think things through without the filter of racial hatred.

Guess what race she is and that means what, BIGOT? Your opinion doesn't mean chit anyway. It's the typical response of pwt struggling and can only find their worth in belittling other races to feel better about being white and losers!
Truth Be Told

Louisville, KY

#9 Jul 27, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>She's Puerto Rican. You got a problem with that, RACIST? You didn't have a problem with the RACIST, WHITE WOMEN JURORS, DID YOU?
It's whites like you with your innate insecurity, racism, ignorance and hatred that make the white race look evil and stupid. There are whites who are sick of your kind tarnishing them as a race. They can withstand the truth, they can see things from another viewpoint and they can logically and critically think things through without the filter of racial hatred.
Guess what race she is and that means what, BIGOT? Your opinion doesn't mean chit anyway. It's the typical response of pwt struggling and can only find their worth in belittling other races to feel better about being white and losers!
She's black, and anybody who looks at her can tell it. You "people" have a "we stick together" mindset, and everyone knows it. You think that Trayvon joins the ranks of Emmit Till? Only in the minds of you blacks. Trayvon's case is different because he was beating Zimmerman and Zimmerman was acting in self defense. You want to flap your gums about racist hate crimes? In this day and age, the majority of hate crimes are black on white. You "people" are pathetic hypocrites who love to finger point while sweeping your own wrongdoings under the rug.

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#10 Jul 27, 2013
Truth Be Told wrote:
<quoted text>She's black, and anybody who looks at her can tell it. You "people" have a "we stick together" mindset, and everyone knows it. You think that Trayvon joins the ranks of Emmit Till? Only in the minds of you blacks. Trayvon's case is different because he was beating Zimmerman and Zimmerman was acting in self defense. You want to flap your gums about racist hate crimes? In this day and age, the majority of hate crimes are black on white. You "people" are pathetic hypocrites who love to finger point while sweeping your own wrongdoings under the rug.
There are blacks all over the world, idiot! She is from a different culture than Black Americans, you flaming, stupid, racist, idiot! That's what's wrong with you illiterate, isolated, Neanderthals! You don't know anything at all beyond your freaking trailer parks and faux news!

I am not wasting my time anymore on the disgrace of this nation and that's ignorant and illiterate pwt with the audacity to think (they don't!) that they're better than anyone else based on nothing but the color of their skin!
Hmmmm

Wiazow, Poland

#11 Jul 27, 2013
SheleftnowIknow wrote:
"Maddy" the juror from the Zimmerman Case. This lady is completely naive, if she actually believes she was not manipulated from the beginning. Maddy's understanding of the law pertaining to 2nd degree murder was completely incorrect. She appears to be very young,.. A group of people, can be the most irrational and be easily controlled,..A group a people that plans to change 1 person's mind,..can happen,..very easily. Florida chose her as a juror because they knew they could change her mind,...and did. I feel bad for her if she actually believes she was not manipulated from the beginning.
There should no question of anyone changing their minds, a jury is supposed to assume innocent until PROVEN guilty, Blacks don't seem to understand that.

We are all subjective and make our assessments of the 'facts' laid before us, probably 99% of people with any Black DNA in them heard the early reports, supported by lies and omissions by the media - like the redacted call and using pictures of a 12 year-old child, cemented the Black case, and that's why there was a trial, fear of mass chimpout.

The very fact that THREE of the jurors considered him guilty prior to hearing the evidence says two things:

1) They shouldn't have been on the jury - all defendants are innocent until PROVEN guilty.
2) That the evidence didn't support their subjective analysis that he was guilty, supports that Sanford cops got it right first time.

All that has happened is the delay of the inevitable chimpout that's coming.

...and 'our' President shouldn't have made any hint that he thought the outcome wrong, as most think he implied, seems to me the court didn't give the verdict he wanted, so he's looking for other ways to address that outcome.

I have friends in parts of the world I am in regular contact with, I've been to Germany and the UK since the shooting, most of the folks worldwide I speak to or email, think it was self defense, sure, some saw the news of a 12 year-old Trayvon, stalked and hunted by an evil KKK cracker, who ignored police advice. But, as the case unraveled - sorry was revealed - even those folks saw it as a straight case of an aggressive young man confronting someone he called a cracker...if you initiate violence, you can't cry whatever the outcome.

Fact is, Trayvon played football, in Europe football is considered a very violent game - like their Rugby - and they expect players to be aggressive alpha male types, in Europe Rugby players are well known for violent and confrontational anti-social conduct of the field.

If Trayvon was a victim, he was a victim of the US Black ghetto gang-banger violent gang rap culture. anyone who looks up to a culture that is anti-authority and misogynist, is heading for a fall...calling himself 'no limt nigguh' says enough about his aspirations...

Live by the sword, die by the sword...
Truth Be Told

Louisville, KY

#12 Jul 27, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>There are blacks all over the world, idiot! She is from a different culture than Black Americans, you flaming, stupid, racist, idiot! That's what's wrong with you illiterate, isolated, Neanderthals! You don't know anything at all beyond your freaking trailer parks and faux news!
I am not wasting my time anymore on the disgrace of this nation and that's ignorant and illiterate pwt with the audacity to think (they don't!) that they're better than anyone else based on nothing but the color of their skin!
I know the truth sucks, but try not to get so hostile. And by the way...."neanderthals and trailer parks????." Only a hypocrite black accuses others of racism while making racist comments. LMWAO!

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#13 Jul 27, 2013
Truth Be Told wrote:
<quoted text>I know the truth sucks, but try not to get so hostile. And by the way...."neanderthals and trailer parks????." Only a hypocrite black accuses others of racism while making racist comments. LMWAO!
Are you denying the Neanderthal DNA in you? Are you denying that you live in a trailer park?

I rest my case! Done with you, idiot!
Truth Be Told

Louisville, KY

#14 Jul 27, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>Are you denying the Neanderthal DNA in you? Are you denying that you live in a trailer park?
I rest my case! Done with you, idiot!
I'm denying both, jungle beast.
Trayvon the dead thug

Justice, IL

#15 Jul 27, 2013
That juror is insane.
Rachel MadCow

Jerseyville, IL

#16 Jul 27, 2013
She is being used by the media... who didnt know they were gonna put the only "non white" juror on tv the next day after the trial?

Still waiting for the media to cover this story ... https://www.google.com/search...

been over a year and it took more than double the time to arrest this man, then it did george zimmerman
hey

Rochester, NY

#18 Jul 27, 2013
It sounds like many people have not been on a jury before. Normally the first thing you do is take a vote on guilty or not guilty. Then you discuss. As you discuss people change their minds because they miss things, forget things, etc. Then you vote again. Then you discuss. It's not manipulation, it's how you reach a verdict.

The case I was on, I left the trial feeling in my gut that the guy was guilty. But remembering what the judge said, I left all my emotions and feelings at the door.

The foreman said which charge do we want to vote on. And I said, wait a minute, we need to decide if he is guilty or not. And he said, doesn't everyone think he is? I was the only one that said no because no evidence at the trial proved he was guilty. But the other jurors were using their gut instincts. In two days we talked and talked and left with the not guilty verdict. So one person can make a difference.

I find it disturbing that many blacks would of voted guilty just because Martin is black and equally disturbing is people calling the jurors racist because they made the correct verdict according to the evidence. To be honest, I'm shocked.

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#19 Jul 27, 2013
Trayvon the dead thug wrote:
That juror is insane.
Hypocrites! You were praising them before, lol. As long as minorities agree with you all, they're good, if not, they're bad. You're some evil, lying, twisted, racist b@stards!
DOLPHIN

Brighton, UK

#20 Jul 27, 2013
my dear negroes pls get over this trayvon matter,IS JUST A PUNISHMENT FROM GOD OF OUR HYPOCRISY.thousands of shootings blk to blk no protest,then a single shooting from a non blk,protest.from God to the jurors see our hypocrisy pls dont cry over spilled milk move on.the state has spend enough money n time on that case,nobody is even interested x
Truth Be Told

Louisville, KY

#21 Jul 27, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>Hypocrites! You were praising them before, lol. As long as minorities agree with you all, they're good, if not, they're bad. You're some evil, lying, twisted, racist b@stards!
And any white person who doesn't agree with YOUR point of view is a card carrying member of the KKK, right?
Categorical Imperative

Harrisburg, PA

#22 Jul 27, 2013
This classic Academy Award nominated film starring Henry Fonda tells the tale of a jury of 12 men as they debate whether the defendant in the case is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. "The film is notable for its almost exclusive use of one set: with the exception of two short scenes at the beginning and the end of the film... and two short scenes in an adjoining washroom, the entire movie takes place in the jury room

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/best-jury-tria...
Categorical Imperative

Harrisburg, PA

#23 Jul 27, 2013
Interesting film clip of jury session.
Categorical Imperative

Harrisburg, PA

#24 Jul 27, 2013
12 Angry Men (1957)- YouTube

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