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Raptors Revenge

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#91 May 3, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text> Morality and immorality are subjective, different cultures have different standards. In many cultures, it is considered immoral for a woman to be in the same room as an non related man. In Western cultures, no one cares, In some cultures, women and men are not supposed to eat in the same table. In Western culture, it is expected to do so.
<quoted text> The Romans were Christians when they fell in 474 ad and 1453, so your argument is obsolete.
No they weren't. Only a very small percentage had become christian which warned them of their fall.
They didn't listen.
They fell.

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#92 May 3, 2013
Raptors Revenge wrote:
<quoted text>No they weren't. Only a very small percentage had become christian which warned them of their fall.
They didn't listen.
They fell.
Emperorjohn is right. Rome's western empire had become a Christian empire by the time of its collapse in A.D. 476. Had only Christian emporors by that time. Of course, it took the power of the state which (since Constantine) made Christianity the state religion, and eventually the dominant religion.
What little was left of the eastern Roman empire was predominantly Christian when Constantinople fell to the Muslim Turks in 1453.
Interestingly enough, St. Augustine wronte THE CITY OF GOD largely to refute pagan claims that it was Rome's abandonment of the old gods in favor of the pagan gods which precipitated Rome's fall to the Visigoths and the Vandals.
The distinguised English hisorian Edward Gibbons also argues that the rise and triumph of Christianity helped bring down the Roman Empire. People who are interested might want to check out Gibbons' THE DECLINE AND FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE. A classic.

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#93 May 3, 2013
Sorry. I meant "Rome's abandonment of the old pagan gods in favor of the Christian god."

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#94 May 3, 2013
Raptors Revenge wrote:
<quoted text>No they weren't. Only a very small percentage had become christian which warned them of their fall.
They didn't listen.
They fell.
Yoou are a fking liar. Most of the population, or at least a good number, were Christians by the time the empire fell. Most of the aristocracy were Christians. In fact, only one of the emperors from the time of Constantine was pagan.

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#95 May 3, 2013
Christians love to lie and claim that Rome fell because of immorality and homosexuality while ignoring the fact that Constantine had converted Rome 140 yrs earlier.In fact, Rome had reached it's greatest zenith under it's pagan, homosexual emperors.
Savant wrote:
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Emperorjohn is right. Rome's western empire had become a Christian empire by the time of its collapse in A.D. 476. Had only Christian emporors by that time. Of course, it took the power of the state which (since Constantine) made Christianity the state religion, and eventually the dominant religion.
What little was left of the eastern Roman empire was predominantly Christian when Constantinople fell to the Muslim Turks in 1453.
Interestingly enough, St. Augustine wronte THE CITY OF GOD largely to refute pagan claims that it was Rome's abandonment of the old gods in favor of the pagan gods which precipitated Rome's fall to the Visigoths and the Vandals.
The distinguised English hisorian Edward Gibbons also argues that the rise and triumph of Christianity helped bring down the Roman Empire. People who are interested might want to check out Gibbons' THE DECLINE AND FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE. A classic.

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#98 May 4, 2013
Two White Crows wrote:
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Youve never been a christian,savant.
Pushing that gay right marriage nonsense proves youre from your father the devil.
Time and time again you reject Gods wise counsel in favor of perversion.
Idiot liar.
First of all, let it be noted that Too Jive Crows doesn't reply to any of my actual ANALYSIS to which his above post is a reaction.
He only makes childish efforts to attack me personally. The old Argumentum ad Hominem is his method; and he wants me to believe he's scientifically educated?
Nonetheless, my point remains that many historians hold that it was Christianity, including the religions otherworldly ideology, which helped bring down the Roman Empire. NOT pagan immorality.
I can further point out that TWC lies, or simply makes up stuff in his accusation.
The FACT of the matter is that I, like MOST African-Americans (especially children of southern parents) was reared as a Christian and remained such until my late teens to early 20s. Presently, I'm an agnostic.
Now what has any of this to do with the issues that were under discussion.
As for my attitude toward the rights of gays are concerned, anyone who has read my posts over the years--and who is not mentally impaired---knows I support the rights of all human beings to freedom and dignity. And I especially support those who are oppressed. It appears to me that gays are an oppressed minority, as are we Blacks, Latinos, Native Americans, etc. But their oppression is not racial. Still oppression is oppression, and I denounce it before the conscience of humanity.

Perhaps this has something to do with how we ought to evaluate liberal whites. Trolls like TWC do have a way of derailing threads and conversations.
But perhaps the "gay" issue which these reactionaries keep raising as a wedge issue isn't as irrelevant as I thought.
Isn't it the LIBERAL or left-of-liberal whites who are most likely (among whites generally) to support not only the rights of Blacks, Latins and the poor, but also the righats of gay fellow citizens.
As a Black progressive I also take a stand in solidarity with oppressed people, even when those people are not Black. Here I stand. I can do no other.

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#99 May 4, 2013
Savant wrote:
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If he were WHITE, Assdurratin would be admiring Hitler, who also built a SUPERSTATE. A state that would have roasted ASSdurratin.
Yeah. Hiterl was "wickedly great." But I really do not much like his iedeas on genocide. At the same time, I doubt believe that this started with Hitler. I believe it satarted with the Berlin Conference when white folks divided Africa up among themselves. They did not give Germany what the Germans though was their fair share. So the Germans went to war in WWI and WWII. In other words, colonilaism and imperialism caused both world wars. And when Germeny nearly overtran England and France it left them so weakedned that they could no longer ghold on to their colonies. This is why immediately after World War II, India took back ints freedom. Next came Egypt, then came Ghana under Nkrumah. This is why I am an Nkrymahist. Nkrumahism is about freedom of Africa. It is Black Power. So, Nkrumah told us tpo study all of thre great plitical movements of history to determine how best to make Africa great and powerful. So we studied the Duhttp://quran.com/61/6mmycrat s and found them lacking. We studied the Communists, the socialists including that fascits/nazis and found them lacking. It was a theist philosophy of Mahatma Gandhi that was the most direct isspiration of ML King and Nkrumah. This is Non-Violent Positve Action was adopted to fight colonailsim and Jim Crom.( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Action and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyagraha )

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#100 May 4, 2013
Carmiana wrote:
Hate is such a strong word.
You need strong words when you legitmately disagree with those ntwits and they try to act like what you said was never said. For example Pervert in Chief Obama presided over the lynching of thousand of black people inh Libya is was nothing but the same old KKK tricks that the Dummyca=rats have always used aginst blacks. We have reams and reams of evidence to prove that this happened. But the liberals wnat us to pretend that it did not happen. This is when it is time toi use the word "hate". I hate thsoe bastards, from Pervert in Chief Obama all the way down to Plain Ordinary Every Day Pervert "Savant":
Savant wrote:
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If he were WHITE, Assdurratin would be admiring Hitler, who also built a SUPERSTATE. A state that would have roasted ASSdurratin.
Yeah. Hiterl was "wickedly great." But I really do not much like his iedeas on genocide. At the same time, I doubt believe that this started with Hitler. I believe it satarted with the Berlin Conference when white folks divided Africa up among themselves. They did not give Germany what the Germans though was their fair share. So the Germans went to war in WWI and WWII. In other words, colonilaism and imperialism caused both world wars. And when Germeny nearly overtran England and France it left them so weakedned that they could no longer ghold on to their colonies. This is why immediately after World War II, India took back ints freedom. Next came Egypt, then came Ghana under Nkrumah. This is why I am an Nkrymahist. Nkrumahism is about freedom of Africa. It is Black Power. So, Nkrumah told us tpo study all of thre great plitical movements of history to determine how best to make Africa great and powerful. So we studied the Duhttp://quran.com/61/6mmycrat s and found them lacking. We studied the Communists, the socialists including that fascits/nazis and found them lacking. It was a theist philosophy of Mahatma Gandhi that was the most direct isspiration of ML King and Nkrumah. This is Non-Violent Positve Action was adopted to fight colonailsim and Jim Crom.( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Action and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyagraha )

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#101 May 4, 2013
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You need strong words when you legitmately disagree with those ntwits and they try to act like what you said was never said. For example Pervert in Chief Obama presided over the lynching of thousand of black people inh Libya is was nothing but the same old KKK tricks that the Dummyca=rats have always used aginst blacks. We have reams and reams of evidence to prove that this happened. But the liberals wnat us to pretend that it did not happen. This is when it is time toi use the word "hate". I hate thsoe bastards, from Pervert in Chief Obama all the way down to Plain Ordinary Every Day Pervert "Savant":


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#102 May 4, 2013
Savant wrote:
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Emperorjohn is right.
Of course. The "gay" community is always right in your eyes. I wonder why.
Savant wrote:
<quoted text> Rome's western empire had become a Christian empire by the time of its collapse in A.D. 476. Had only Christian emporors by that time.
No do do? Hum. Maybe that is why it was called the Christian Roman Empire. Wow! How brilliant can one become at Howard U.
Savant wrote:
<quoted text> Of course, it took the power of the state which (since Constantine) made Christianity the state religion, and eventually the dominant religion.
What little was left of the eastern Roman empire was predominantly Christian when Constantinople fell to the Muslim Turks in 1453.
More liberal Christian lies...The Eastern Empire became center of the Coptic Church aka Byzantine Empire.( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire ) That was long, long before the advent of Islam.
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>Interestingly enough, St. Augustine wronte THE CITY OF GOD largely to refute pagan claims that it was Rome's abandonment of the old gods in favor of the pagan gods which precipitated Rome's fall to the Visigoths and the Vandals.
The distinguised English hisorian Edward Gibbons also argues that the rise and triumph of Christianity helped bring down the Roman Empire.
Of course it did. Christianity took mankind into the Dark Ages of slavery and serfdom aka the Ages of Ignorance of which YOU are a part. It toolk the Light of Islam to bring mankind back to Enlightenment and the Age of Discovery. But you are too dishonest and cowardly to admit such an obvious fact of history.

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#103 May 4, 2013
Savant wrote:
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First of all, let it be noted that Too Jive Crows doesn't reply to any of my actual ANALYSIS to which his above post is a reaction.
Maybe it is because your "analyisis" is nothing bit twisted liberal bullshyt.
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>Nonetheless, my point remains that many historians hold that it was Christianity, including the religions otherworldly ideology, which helped bring down the Roman Empire. NOT pagan immorality.
I can further point out that TWC lies, or simply makes up stuff in his accusation.
No, fool. Ypou have it all twisted around. The pagans refused to accept Christinaity because early Christianity opposed slavery just as jdauism opposed slvery previously and Islam opposed it later. So, what Uncle Paul did was twist Christianity around to make it accept slavery. Thisz what these pPauline Verses from the Bible mean:

Ephesians 6:5: "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ." ( http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/... )

Colossians 3:22: "Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord."

1 Peter 2:18: "Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh."

This is why idiots like "Savant" do not want us to read the Scriptures. When we do read the Scriptures it is impossible for them to lie to us and get away with it.
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>The FACT of the matter is that I, like MOST African-Americans (especially children of southern parents) was reared as a Christian and remained such until my late teens to early 20s. Presently, I'm an agnostic
Presntly, you ain't do do.
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>As for my attitude toward the rights of gays are concerned, anyone who has read my posts over the years--and who is not mentally impaired---knows I support the rights of all human beings to freedom and dignity.
Yeah. More liberal goobikoot.
Savant wrote:
<quoted text> And I especially support those who are oppressed. It appears to me that gays are an oppressed minority, as are we Blacks, Latinos, Native Americans, etc.
Fool, "gays" are not a race, etnic group, nationality or cultural group. It is SEXUAL PERVERSION AND THAT IS ALL IT IS.
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>But their oppression is not racial. Still oppression is oppression, and I denounce it before the conscience of humanity.
This has nothing to do with the "consinece of hamanity" The vast majority of humanity opposes all kinds of sexuL PERVERSIONS INCLUDING "GAY" RIGHTS.
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>But perhaps the "gay" issue which these reactionaries keep raising as a wedge issue isn't as irrelevant as I thought.
Isn't it the LIBERAL or left-of-liberal whites who are most likely (among whites generally) to support not only the rights of Blacks, Latins and the poor, but also the righats of gay fellow citizens.
No. the conservaticves ended slavery. Thwe liberals supported slavery to the bloody end. After slavery was aboloished, it were liberals who imposed Jim Crow rule against the freed slaves. This is history that no one can deny. And the Liberals have alwasy been sexual perverts. It goes all the way back to Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings.

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#104 May 4, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
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Of course. The "gay" community is always right in your eyes. I wonder why.
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No do do? Hum. Maybe that is why it was called the Christian Roman Empire. Wow! How brilliant can one become at Howard U.
<quoted text>
More liberal Christian lies...The Eastern Empire became center of the Coptic Church aka Byzantine Empire.( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire ) That was long, long before the advent of Islam.
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Of course it did. Christianity took mankind into the Dark Ages of slavery and serfdom aka the Ages of Ignorance of which YOU are a part. It toolk the Light of Islam to bring mankind back to Enlightenment and the Age of Discovery. But you are too dishonest and cowardly to admit such an obvious fact of history.
Slvaery may have been th4e fiorst pagainism to enter Christianity. But it was by by no means the last pagainsim to enter Christianity. Modern day American slavery got its start in Christian Roman Enmpire. Along with slavery came Christmas, another commercial pagan holiday. Add to that Halloween and New Year's Day. All of that is nothing but paganism. Once the pagans got inside the Christian community, they stopped killing Christians, of course. Then they used Christianity as a cover to perpetrate their most obnoxious evils.

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#105 May 4, 2013
Malcolm XXX wrote:
Liberals have done much damage to this country ...
You are certainly right. They have done much damage to the black community in particular. Look at that freak hypocrite "Savant", Conservatives built the school that he went to. They built Fisk and Howard Universities. Show me one school or institution liberals built in the black community. Not one. Nada. Zilch. Instead, they have always opposed building anything at all in the black community. For example, in the last 10 years, I have tried to get the All-African People's Revolutionary Party back to its Nkurmahist roots. Nkrumah started the AAPRP. But they have left Nkrumah behind in order to embrace liberalism. So, I have been trying to get them back on track. When that failed, I joined the Convention People's Party ( http://conventionpeoplesparty.org/ ) because I have more support in the CPP. we are true to Nkrumahism and to heck with liberalism,. Where is my support in the USA? Hypocrite Pervert "Savant" has always been my most vocal opponent. Those liberal freaks have always opposed doing anything that benefits the black community. That is why Pervert in Chief Obama has not done a dang thing for blacks in 5 years in power. Instead, he has done a lot to us, but not nothing for us.
Bob

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#106 May 4, 2013
You were unable to leave your doors open because of mass serial white killers and peodo's sneaking through the back door and off with your kids. The opening line to any FBI crime program, is that it was a quiet friendly, town and everyone knew everyone and nothing happened until some psycho white male that everyone knew snatched and killed somebody's kid. You're the freakos, that no one can trust look at your bloody history and bombing Boston.

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#107 May 4, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
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You are certainly right. They have done much damage to the black community in particular. Look at that freak hypocrite "Savant", Conservatives built the school that he went to. They built Fisk and Howard Universities. Show me one school or institution liberals built in the black community. Not one. Nada. Zilch. Instead, they have always opposed building anything at all in the black community. For example, in the last 10 years, I have tried to get the All-African People's Revolutionary Party back to its Nkurmahist roots. Nkrumah started the AAPRP. But they have left Nkrumah behind in order to embrace liberalism. So, I have been trying to get them back on track. When that failed, I joined the Convention People's Party ( http://conventionpeoplesparty.org/ ) because I have more support in the CPP. we are true to Nkrumahism and to heck with liberalism,. Where is my support in the USA? Hypocrite Pervert "Savant" has always been my most vocal opponent. Those liberal freaks have always opposed doing anything that benefits the black community. That is why Pervert in Chief Obama has not done a dang thing for blacks in 5 years in power. Instead, he has done a lot to us, but not nothing for us.
How many colleges and universitiesa have liberals built for black people in this country? Name just one. Somebody, anybody, please tell me how many institutions have liberals built for balck paople?

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#108 May 5, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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Yoou are a fking liar. Most of the population, or at least a good number, were Christians by the time the empire fell. Most of the aristocracy were Christians. In fact, only one of the emperors from the time of Constantine was pagan.
At the time of the fall, the Roman Empire was 22 million people. During that time the TOTAL number of Christians were 6 million, and not all of them were of the Roman Empire. Even the Vikings eventually converted to Christianity, and it was a great part of their conquering the coasts that brought the Empire down. The Roman Empire's immorality is what made them weak. As it has happened in all Empire that fell. As soon as you follow the path of immorality a well organized civilization begins to crumble. The U.S. became great due to moral laws that were established and is now becoming a cesspool of rape, drugs, murder, and perverted events. You just hate Christianity because it doesn't condone you wanting to stick your shlong in another man's hole that he takes a crap out of, you filthy, perverted worm.
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#109 May 5, 2013
Raptors Revenge wrote:
<quoted text>At the time of the fall, the Roman Empire was 22 million people. During that time the TOTAL number of Christians were 6 million, and not all of them were of the Roman Empire. Even the Vikings eventually converted to Christianity, and it was a great part of their conquering the coasts that brought the Empire down. The Roman Empire's immorality is what made them weak. As it has happened in all Empire that fell. As soon as you follow the path of immorality a well organized civilization begins to crumble. The U.S. became great due to moral laws that were established and is now becoming a cesspool of rape, drugs, murder, and perverted events. You just hate Christianity because it doesn't condone you wanting to stick your shlong in another man's hole that he takes a crap out of, you filthy, perverted worm.
Are you a Christian?

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#110 May 5, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
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I do admire SWtalin as a man who helped to build one of the greatest states ever known to mankind, the Soviet Union. I admire Hitler for dang near wiping out UK and France. The only problem with Hitler is he did not kill enough of those dogs.
Now get lost punk. this discussion is for grownups only
Shut your trap, you negro fascist punk. You're too stupid to hold a rational discussion, and thus are no adult.

ASSdurratin overlooks the fact that Stalin and Hitler created the two most REPRESSIVE and murderous states in the 20th Century, and indeed two of perhaps the bLoodiest tyrrannies in history. Notice that Assdurratin's ONLY reservation about Hitler is that he supposedly didn't kill enough people! About 50 millions of casualties, including two thirds of European Jewry and most of the AFRO-GERMAN population--but that's not enough killing for the vile ASSdurratin. That punk needs to have his head examined.

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#111 May 5, 2013
This is what the word liberal stands for:

Laughable
Ill Informed
Blaming
Entitled
Race Baiting
Anti Capitalist
Loudmouth

In addition, liberals support the murder of unborn children, support the destruction of the family (advocate divorce and homosexual marriage), support the destruction of Christianity and the state of Israel, and support Communism and a nanny state.

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#112 May 5, 2013
Gaelach Pride wrote:
This is what the word liberal stands for:
Laughable
Ill Informed
Blaming
Entitled
Race Baiting
Anti Capitalist
Loudmouth
In addition, liberals support the murder of unborn children, support the destruction of the family (advocate divorce and homosexual marriage), support the destruction of Christianity and the state of Israel, and support Communism and a nanny state.
Those are merely your subjective opinions, and reflect no knowledge of traditions of liberal thought.
As for "race-baiting", however, that more of a RIGHT WING sport than anythinb else.
Racism is so deeply rooted in America that it cuts across the political spectrum.But the most adament, persistent and at times fanatic racism have been located on the right side of the spectrum.
Liberals, socialists and other leftists are not free of racism; bu thty pale before the more strident and fanatic racism of the KKK, Christian identity movements, Nazism, etc. Not for nothing did one political scientist title his book: CONSERVATISM AND RACISM, AND WHY IN AMERICA THEY ARE THE SAME.
Remember that liberals and socialists didn't psss the Jim Crow laws. Liberals and other progressives didn't lynch Black people in the South, didn't burn our homes or bomb our churches.
Whatever the shortcomings of liberals--and they are numerrous--they don't begin to equal (let alone exceed)the militant racism of the Right

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