holycrap

Memphis, TN

#631 Feb 13, 2013
Carol wrote:
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I doubt if any blk women would feel safe going anywhere with Desmond Sandford....
I'd rather eat a plate full of toenails than follow that Desmond guy anywhere.
Carol wrote:
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and again it seems like a ploy to take benefits from blks esp elderly blks.
Why do you say this?
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#632 Feb 13, 2013
KPITRL wrote:
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No they'll probably still refuse to let us go, but they're not going to have a choice eventually. Either they do, or they'll be forced to by powers beyond their control. But unfortunately, you're going to have blacks who didn't want to leave, and they will suffer.
Oh please.

Every place black people go we suffer. We can't even elect a decent leader in African nations without it being a corrupt dictator who starves the hell out of his people, but feeds his militias. Black people have been in Africa since the beginning of time, but just now are gaining access to purified water and sewage.

Where are you going to go? What are you going to build when you get there?

You have to look at reality for a change.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Level 8

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#633 Feb 13, 2013
KIP wrote:
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Yes, of course I'm a racist to you. I'm black and a LIBERAL. It's what you hate among all things, so you will definitely come with some fairy tale about me being racist. Hell everyone who refuses to have your hate-filled agenda shoved down their throat is racist in your book --- your book of fairy tales and other lies of a confederate nature.
It's why you are better known as Aisling in Wonderland.
There is an interesting book that I'm reading called CONSERVATISM AND RACISM, AND WHY IN AMERICA THEY ARE THE SAME. It's an historical study which indicates that while racism cuts across political and ideological lines, American racism is (has always been) more deeply wedded with Conservatism than with center-left politics and perspectives. Nearly all antiracist ideas, politics and movements have come from the Left.
The Right gave us everything from the KKK, Dixiecrat segregationists, American Nazis, right wing Republicans opponents of civil rights (from Barry Goldwater to Ron & Rand Paul), the "Southern Strategy', etc., etc.
I usually just LAUGH when I hear ANY right wing person, especially (though not only) right wing white making accusations of racism.
Racism cuts across the entire political spectrum, but has always been more at home within the Right than anywhere else.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Level 8

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#634 Feb 13, 2013
KPITRL wrote:
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so why do you continue to post here?
In the case of "boundaries of space" I think it's due to an emotional disorder and a distortion of her cognitive facutlies.

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Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#635 Feb 13, 2013
KIP wrote:
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Oh please.
Every place black people go we suffer. We can't even elect a decent leader in African nations without it being a corrupt dictator who starves the hell out of his people, but feeds his militias. Black people have been in Africa since the beginning of time, but just now are gaining access to purified water and sewage.
Where are you going to go? What are you going to build when you get there?
You have to look at reality for a change.
You are blind brother. Black people are the reality if more only knew theirselves. Nobody said anything about leaving the country or going to Africa. We already built Africa, we also built Europe, and we built America. And white people destroyed all off that then helped them rebuild these place, as long as they where in control. But that day is coming to an end, and the handwriting is on the wall. I know you see it.

We still have those engineering and agricultural skills we brought from Africa. Plus we have the skills of present educated professionals of today. If we were able to get this land that the government owes us, we could have cities like this world hasn't seen in recent history. That is why the white man don't want us to come together. All those negative things you've said about Africa, you know well the white man had his hand in it. Things won't be easy with this plan, especially in the beginning, but you need to be more optimistic.
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#636 Feb 13, 2013
Savant wrote:
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There is an interesting book that I'm reading called CONSERVATISM AND RACISM, AND WHY IN AMERICA THEY ARE THE SAME. It's an historical study which indicates that while racism cuts across political and ideological lines, American racism is (has always been) more deeply wedded with Conservatism than with center-left politics and perspectives. Nearly all antiracist ideas, politics and movements have come from the Left.
The Right gave us everything from the KKK, Dixiecrat segregationists, American Nazis, right wing Republicans opponents of civil rights (from Barry Goldwater to Ron & Rand Paul), the "Southern Strategy', etc., etc.
I usually just LAUGH when I hear ANY right wing person, especially (though not only) right wing white making accusations of racism.
Racism cuts across the entire political spectrum, but has always been more at home within the Right than anywhere else.
Thanks Savant. I'll look for that book.

What's really interesting is how conservative racism transcends U.S. foreign policy. People don't usually pay attention to this, but it has always been a part of our trouble in the world. For example, the so-called war against the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia. Back then the Americans probably didn't think much about annihilating a bunch of asian people. Communism spread all over eastern Europe, but the Yankee didn't think of preventing any of that. Instead, he spared no effort to bomb and napalm the hell out of all those Asians in Vietnam. The most brutal overt and covert wars the U.S. has waged has been against brown people in Central America, Asia, and the Middle East. What's funny is how we give dual support to both warring factions in Sudan.
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#637 Feb 13, 2013
Savant wrote:
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In the case of "boundaries of space" I think it's due to an emotional disorder and a distortion of her cognitive facutlies.
Many of these people are emotionally disturbed. If you pay attention to their comments and how they relate to others, you might find that some them have personality disorders.
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#638 Feb 13, 2013
KPITRL wrote:
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You are blind brother. Black people are the reality if more only knew theirselves. Nobody said anything about leaving the country or going to Africa. We already built Africa, we also built Europe, and we built America. And white people destroyed all off that then helped them rebuild these place, as long as they where in control. But that day is coming to an end, and the handwriting is on the wall. I know you see it.
We still have those engineering and agricultural skills we brought from Africa. Plus we have the skills of present educated professionals of today. If we were able to get this land that the government owes us, we could have cities like this world hasn't seen in recent history. That is why the white man don't want us to come together. All those negative things you've said about Africa, you know well the white man had his hand in it. Things won't be easy with this plan, especially in the beginning, but you need to be more optimistic.
The point I'm making is that true strength doesn't come from blaming white people all the time. it comes from recognizing our own stake in something. Understanding failures of the past and not repeating them is important. You cannot perfect something if you don't correct it. Today, many black people don't correct, or are not willing to correct what is wrong. Passing blame all the time is old. That just makes it easy for some to set back and do nothing.

I recall living in San Francisco's Fillmore district some years back. The Fillmore used to be a thriving black community and jazz mecca before gentrification and the city's decision in the 1960's to tear down much of the area. Today, there are still blacks there, but you might be hard pressed to find a brother willing to pick up a paint brush and go over a building. One day some guy saw a group of Mexican laborers doing the work and he went after them with a bullhorn. He didn't own the building, but he saw this as an affront on the community.

All of this talk about community and the past doesn't mean anything when men are not even willing to improve what they already have.
holycrap

Memphis, TN

#639 Feb 13, 2013
Capree wrote:
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That's the truth! Do you think the charred body they found in that cabin is Dorny's?
Yep. I think it was him.

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Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#640 Feb 13, 2013
KIP wrote:
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The point I'm making is that true strength doesn't come from blaming white people all the time. it comes from recognizing our own stake in something. Understanding failures of the past and not repeating them is important. You cannot perfect something if you don't correct it. Today, many black people don't correct, or are not willing to correct what is wrong. Passing blame all the time is old. That just makes it easy for some to set back and do nothing.
I recall living in San Francisco's Fillmore district some years back. The Fillmore used to be a thriving black community and jazz mecca before gentrification and the city's decision in the 1960's to tear down much of the area. Today, there are still blacks there, but you might be hard pressed to find a brother willing to pick up a paint brush and go over a building. One day some guy saw a group of Mexican laborers doing the work and he went after them with a bullhorn. He didn't own the building, but he saw this as an affront on the community.
All of this talk about community and the past doesn't mean anything when men are not even willing to improve what they already have.
I must admit, we as black folks have a lot of tuning up to do before we can move anywhere and succeed.
holycrap

Memphis, TN

#641 Feb 13, 2013
KPITRL wrote:
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No they'll probably still refuse to let us go, but they're not going to have a choice eventually. Either they do, or they'll be forced to by powers beyond their control. But unfortunately, you're going to have blacks who didn't want to leave, and they will suffer.
This is ridiculous and you know it.
holycrap

Memphis, TN

#642 Feb 13, 2013
KIP wrote:
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The point I'm making is that true strength doesn't come from blaming white people all the time. it comes from recognizing our own stake in something. Understanding failures of the past and not repeating them is important. You cannot perfect something if you don't correct it. Today, many black people don't correct, or are not willing to correct what is wrong. Passing blame all the time is old. That just makes it easy for some to set back and do nothing.
I recall living in San Francisco's Fillmore district some years back. The Fillmore used to be a thriving black community and jazz mecca before gentrification and the city's decision in the 1960's to tear down much of the area. Today, there are still blacks there, but you might be hard pressed to find a brother willing to pick up a paint brush and go over a building. One day some guy saw a group of Mexican laborers doing the work and he went after them with a bullhorn. He didn't own the building, but he saw this as an affront on the community.
All of this talk about community and the past doesn't mean anything when men are not even willing to improve what they already have.
Every once in awhile you post something I agree with. This is a great post. Until people in general realize that problems are solved by looking inward, not outward, we will always have constant complainers and do nothingers.
holycrap

Memphis, TN

#643 Feb 13, 2013
KPITRL wrote:
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I must admit, we as black folks have a lot of tuning up to do before we can move anywhere and succeed.
Okay. Well quit blaming other groups for your groups lack of whatever it is you feel they lack.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Level 8

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#644 Feb 13, 2013
KIP wrote:
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Thanks Savant. I'll look for that book.
What's really interesting is how conservative racism transcends U.S. foreign policy. People don't usually pay attention to this, but it has always been a part of our trouble in the world. For example, the so-called war against the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia. Back then the Americans probably didn't think much about annihilating a bunch of asian people. Communism spread all over eastern Europe, but the Yankee didn't think of preventing any of that. Instead, he spared no effort to bomb and napalm the hell out of all those Asians in Vietnam. The most brutal overt and covert wars the U.S. has waged has been against brown people in Central America, Asia, and the Middle East. What's funny is how we give dual support to both warring factions in Sudan.
"Chinks" and "yellow monkeys" are terms used for Asians, especially during war. Iraqis have been seen as "samd n****ers." Which is one reasons Abu Graib and other atrocities didn't surprise. We all know how people are treated when they're seen a "n***ers"--with or without sand.
holycrap

Memphis, TN

#645 Feb 13, 2013
KPITRL wrote:
<quoted text>
You are blind brother. Black people are the reality if more only knew theirselves. Nobody said anything about leaving the country or going to Africa. We already built Africa, we also built Europe, and we built America. And white people destroyed all off that then helped them rebuild these place, as long as they where in control. But that day is coming to an end, and the handwriting is on the wall. I know you see it.
We still have those engineering and agricultural skills we brought from Africa. Plus we have the skills of present educated professionals of today. If we were able to get this land that the government owes us, we could have cities like this world hasn't seen in recent history. That is why the white man don't want us to come together. All those negative things you've said about Africa, you know well the white man had his hand in it. Things won't be easy with this plan, especially in the beginning, but you need to be more optimistic.
Why is it that some blacks believe this world should be free of opposition?
Langston again

Washington, DC

#646 Feb 13, 2013
KIP wrote:
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Thanks Savant. I'll look for that book.
What's really interesting is how conservative racism transcends U.S. foreign policy. People don't usually pay attention to this, but it has always been a part of our trouble in the world. For example, the so-called war against the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia. Back then the Americans probably didn't think much about annihilating a bunch of asian people. Communism spread all over eastern Europe, but the Yankee didn't think of preventing any of that. Instead, he spared no effort to bomb and napalm the hell out of all those Asians in Vietnam. The most brutal overt and covert wars the U.S. has waged has been against brown people in Central America, Asia, and the Middle East. What's funny is how we give dual support to both warring factions in Sudan.
What you fail to realize is that our involvement with the the Eastern Block would likely have led to direct confrontation with the Soviets. That would not have been a very wise move.

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Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#647 Feb 13, 2013
holycrap wrote:
<quoted text>Okay. Well quit blaming other groups for your groups lack of whatever it is you feel they lack.
It can begin with you staying out of our business.
Carol

Oak Park, MI

#648 Feb 13, 2013
holycrap wrote:
<quoted text> lol. He will be by himself. lol. He doesn't speak for the rest of us sir.
Absolutely agree, you see how treasonous these toms are now...
Who in the world would trust them.

“Reality is merely an illusion”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#649 Feb 13, 2013
Capree wrote:
You people who are cheering for this killer had better cheer even harder. He is up against a force! And you simply can't run from a force!
Great post Capree glad to see sensible posts like yours.
Carol

Oak Park, MI

#651 Feb 13, 2013
holycrap wrote:
<quoted text> I'd rather eat a plate full of toenails than follow that Desmond guy anywhere.
<quoted text> Why do you say this?
Absolutely agree, about that Desmond creep....btw

African Americans are just that, American.

We're a valid part of the USA, most are patriotic and although there will be excruciating cuts, job losses....

This is our country too, those telling us to leave, now that the blk family lies in ruin are suspect.

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