Will Supreme Court Voter ID Decision Disenfranchise (Black, poor & elderly) Voters?

League of Women Voters President May G. Wilson called the policy requiring voters to show a government-issued photo ID “a bad decision for democracy” and a “concerted effort to disenfranchise legal voters.” Civil rights groups suggest that the Court’s decision, coming on the eve of a presidential election and Indiana’s primary, in which an African American is a serious contender, has partisan overtones and intent. President John Payton of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund charged: “Without doubt, thousands of otherwise eligible African Americans and other minority voters who would have wanted to participate in what is perhaps the most historic election in our lifetime will not be able to vote under mandatory voter ID requirements.” AFL-CIO President John Sweeney, who also sits on the Democratic National Committee, called laws like Indiana’s “a cynical attempt to suppress turnout among groups who tend to vote for candidates who prioritize working families’ issues, including lower-income Americans and people of color.”

[bothersome]

“Without doubt, thousands of otherwise eligible African Americans and other minority voters who would have wanted to participate in what is perhaps the most historic election in our lifetime will not be able to vote under mandatory voter ID requirements.”

What are the requirements? Is it more than just going to your local DMV, getting your pic taken and paying a fee? That to me isn't too harsh but stupid especially if you've voted in the past without a photo ID. Hell if its that simple just do it- don't let them (the gov't) hold you back from making your vote- Just Vote! Kinda sounds like you have to pay to vote. Enlighten me, what is the real reason the gov't is trying to pull this move?

[Rogerg]

Just the illegal alien ones.
http://www.topix.com/who/illegal-aliens/2008/...

[Know4life]

Another attack on Democracy disguised as protecting the American people. The Republicans know this will disenfranchise tens of thousands of poor, Black and elderly voters. Voters who would potentially vote democratic.

We must remember, this Supreme Court is largely made up of Bush 41 appointed judges. Those same judges GAVE Bush 43 the presidency.

At the very point that Blacks have an opportunity to vote for a Black man to be President of the United States, the rules are changed. This is not without historical context. This is reminiscent of Reconstruction when Blacks were in government and doing for self. Then came the change in laws and the Knight Riders (KKK).

Minister Farrakhan wrote, "The period of time right after President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation was called the Reconstruction era, wherein Black people made tremendous progress. The whole idea in that period—from those who benefited from our enslavement—was to put our people back into slavery and to drive deeper into our hearts the fear that was in us during our 300 years of chattel slavery. In the 12-year period from 1865 to 1877, the enemy could see that if the so-called Negro was set free and given the material to build an independent existence, he could become a serious challenge to White superiority."

"If" America is to survive, White supremacy must die.

[Offbeat]

Know4life wrote:

Another attack on Democracy disguised as protecting the American people. The Republicans know this will disenfranchise tens of thousands of poor, Black and elderly voters. Voters who would potentially vote democratic.
We must remember, this Supreme Court is largely made up of Bush 41 appointed judges. Those same judges GAVE Bush 43 the presidency.
At the very point that Blacks have an opportunity to vote for a Black man to be President of the United States, the rules are changed. This is not without historical context. This is reminiscent of Reconstruction when Blacks were in government and doing for self. Then came the change in laws and the Knight Riders (KKK).
Minister Farrakhan wrote, "The period of time right after President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation was called the Reconstruction era, wherein Black people made tremendous progress. The whole idea in that period—from those who benefited from our enslavement—was to put our people back into slavery and to drive deeper into our hearts the fear that was in us during our 300 years of chattel slavery. In the 12-year period from 1865 to 1877, the enemy could see that if the so-called Negro was set free and given the material to build an independent existence, he could become a serious challenge to White superiority."
"If" America is to survive, White supremacy must die.

OH STFU!You need ID to cash checks, drive, to buy things so what is the big deal with you needing one to vote. Cry me a freggen river. I like the way you point the fingers at Republicans you little dipwad. I say if you do not have an ID then you shouldn't vote because you are a moron.

[bothersome]

Rogerg wrote:

Just the illegal alien ones.
http://www.topix.com/who/illegal-aliens/2008/...

"The other argument I’ve heard against voter ID legislation is that it’s discriminatory in that certain people can’t get the cards. This point, I will concede. There are certain people who would not be able to obtain voter ID cards because of their citizenship status. Non-citizens (aka: illegal aliens) would not be able to get the ID cards and there is no problem, whatsoever, with that. The language of the U.S. Constitution reads,“The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied…” Please note the use of the word citizen: all citizens may vote, not just anyone who happens to be in this country on an election day."

Don't seem much like a big deal to me

[bothersome]

Saw it on the boards...

"Look at all the money being spent on the "Get out the Vote" campaigns, if people are worried about the poor and homebound being unable to get an ID, why not use some ot the resources from the "Get out the Vote" campaign and redirect it to a "Get your Voter ID" campaign?

There are currently groups that pick up voters each election and give them rides to the polls so they can vote. Could this not be done with getting an ID as well? The ID's are offered free to people who could not afford them, and who really in todays society can get by without a Photo ID of some sort.

The answer is the LIbErals don't want photo ID because it would make commiting vote fraud more difficult. The "get out the vote" campaigns would no longer be effective means of packing the voter registration rolls with phony names so fraudlent votes can be cast.

They argue that people might be disenfranchised if forced to show an id, but don't seem to care that with every fraudulent vote that a legitimate voter in the state has their vote negated by each fraudulent vote cast. They ARE actually being disenfranchised, there is no hypothetical there.

The real issue is this:
* The liberals want to keep vote fraud as a tool that they can use to help elect their candidates and promote their adgenda.

* The conservatives want to elimate vote fraud so that the elections are kept fair. Conservatives want all people to be able to vote in each election, they just want to limit their votes to one."

...your thoughts?

[cute guys]

Why do some always assume blacks are dumb, stupid and disfranchised?

Why?

How does this rule effect blacks anymore than white?

[JamieJay]

THIS IS URGENT!!!! OUR FAMILY FOUND OUT LAST NIGHT THAT HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON ARE INVOLVED IN A FRAUD LAWSUIT!!! THE PLAINTIFF IS PETER F. PAUL, AND THE CALIFORNIA SUPERIOR COURT (LOS ANGELES) JUDGE (AURELIO MUNOZ) HAS GIVEN THE GO AHEAD TO MR. PAULS' LAWYERS TO TAKE DEPOSITIONS. HILLARY (DEFENDANT), WILL NOT BE DEPOSED UNTIL "AFTER" NOVEMBER, DUE TO THE ELECTIONS. BILL CLINTON (DEFENDANT), WILL BE DEPOSED REAL SOON, AS WELL AS, OTHER PARTIES INVOLVED. MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THIS LAWSUIT, INCLUDING THE MEDIA!! YOU CAN VIEW IT FOR YOURSELF AT: http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilCaseSumma ...
The Case Number is: BC304174
WE FOUND OUT THAT HILLARY HAS ALREADY BEEN FINED $30K+, BY THE FEC (FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION), BECAUSE SHE LIED/MIS-REPORTED HER CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM MR. PAUL. PLEASE, DO YOUR RESEARCH!! OUR COUNTRY CANNOT AFFORD TO GO FROM A WAR TO WATERGATE PART 2!!!

[Rogerg]

Bothersome, good post.
JamieJay, There is a youtube video that explains this story, and your right.

[bothersome]

Looks like HillBilly are at the same games... never stopped.

[Trufax]

If someone is apathetic enough to lose their opportunity to vote because they can't secure a drivers license then they deserve nothing more than to be taken advantage of their whole life.

As for old people, they're the most powerful political group there is because THEY ALL VOTE. Don't even pretend that someone who is a senior citizen hasn't found time to get a drivers license especially when we are constantly bombarded with stories about seniors refusing to give up their licenses and "right" to drive.

[SIR LANCELOT]

cute guys wrote:

Why do some always assume blacks are dumb, stupid and disfranchised?
Why?
How does this rule effect blacks anymore than white?

It doesn't. It only will affect making sure Americans are voting,and that is why the liberals against it. They have come to rely on illegals voting for them.

[cute guys]

SIR LANCELOT wrote:

<quoted text>It doesn't. It only will affect making sure Americans are voting,and that is why the liberals against it. They have come to rely on illegals voting for them.

Are you a trucker?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[She Be Me]

Oh lets just all scrap having to have IDs that way everyone can vote and vote as many times as they would like to. Just think voters could go from poll to poll with no restrictions. Voters could vote early and often all day long. Voters could also be bused in from other counties and states to swing an election. That way Illegal aliens and terrorist could vote too. Sure lets get rid of IDs. @@.

[SIR LANCELOT]

cute guys wrote:

<quoted text>Are you a trucker?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Yes ma'am. http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[bothersome]

Americans by all means get the ID- like I posted earlier if thats the requirement JUST DO IT Don't let something as minute as ID hold back your VOTE; every VOTE counts! Make your vote COUNT!

[Intelligent Guessing]

bothersome wrote:

Americans by all means get the ID- like I posted earlier if thats the requirement JUST DO IT Don't let something as minute as ID hold back your VOTE; every VOTE counts! Make your vote COUNT!

They want a picture Id so they can terrorize you for your vote.
Nice move by old white guys.

Don't forget your hoods boys... yeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh !!

[Rogerg]

Intelligent Guessing wrote:

<quoted text>
They want a picture Id so they can terrorize you for your vote.
Nice move by old white guys.
Don't forget your hoods boys... yeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh !!

To get rid of the Tan Clan.

[Intelligent Guessing]

Rogerg wrote:

<quoted text>
To get rid of the Tan Clan.

That was about as funny as a black russian.... he haw.

[Bill R]

What the paranoid liberals seem to have missed is
that the Indiana law passed with bipartisan support.
Check your conspiracy theories and pandering to
blacks and poor people at the door.

Just a question or two for those who find such a
law so threatening.

If you haven't a verifying ID, how do you get a
legitimate job? Virtually any reputable company
or business is required to verify ID and proof
of citizenship.

Without a proper ID available, how does the
polling place know if you are qualified to vote
in that district, ward, or whatever? It may not
matter which polling place you choose to vote for
the President of the United States, but there are
other races and measures on the ballot for which
you are unqualified due to where you live.