The One Drop Rule is a load
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#1 Feb 15, 2013
The one drop rule is a complete load. What would you do if you lived your whole life thinking your white and with everybody else thinking it? You wouldn't just rearrange your whole identity because you found out your real grandfather was black, would you? This is a white girl with a black grandfather. You couldn't pick her out in a bar.

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Black Deal

Lockhart, TX

#2 Feb 15, 2013
Autumn Lynn wrote:
The one drop rule is a complete load. What would you do if you lived your whole life thinking your white and with everybody else thinking it? You wouldn't just rearrange your whole identity because you found out your real grandfather was black, would you? This is a white girl with a black grandfather. You couldn't pick her out in a bar.

http://s1358.beta.photobucket.com/user/Autumn...

http://s1358.beta.photobucket.com/user/Autumn...

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http://s1358.beta.photobucket.com/user/Autumn...
You AA got mixed ancestry

Slave bs all up in the mix

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#3 Feb 15, 2013
Black Deal wrote:
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You AA got mixed ancestry
Slave bs all up in the mix
Did you look at the pics? White.
Black Deal

Lockhart, TX

#4 Feb 15, 2013
Autumn Lynn wrote:
<quoted text>Did you look at the pics? White.
No need to

I already know you AA mixed

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#5 Feb 15, 2013
Black Deal wrote:
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No need to
I already know you AA mixed
Then your response doesn't mean jack,
Black Deal

Lockhart, TX

#6 Feb 15, 2013
Autumn Lynn wrote:
<quoted text>Then your response doesn't mean jack,
Neither do yours

If you wanna celebrate Neanderthal ancestry go right ahead

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#9 Feb 15, 2013
sand_-cracker wrote:
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What exactly is your question? Nobody forces you to join the Black Panthers, if that's what you're asking.
There's not a question. My point is that the racist one drop rule doesn't hold water when confronted with real people's experience.
Sam

Greenville, NH

#11 Feb 15, 2013
Yes, she looks white, and for all practical purposes as far as an onlooker or a passer-by would be concerned, she is white.

That being said... Are you talking about the actual historical legislation or the societal "concept" of the one drop rule?

Historically, regarding the legislation, the two most important components of the one drop rule were:

1: Social Acceptance.

2: Social Identification (not self-identification).

This means that if the surrounding white society "saw" that person as white (because they visibly appeared as white) and identified them as white then that person was white. If a person with very white skin and "white" hair lived in a Caucasian community then no one would know that person had black ancestors a few generations back…. It’s not like a person would climb onto a rooftop and start screaming “HEY! MY GRANDFATHER IS BLACK!!!” back then. The one drop rule was used against individuals who were visibly mixed, and could be easily identified as such by surrounding white society. These people were referred to as mulattos.

If you're referring to it in the sense of a general philosophical concept when dealing with people who have black ancestry but don't appear to be black then it depends not at all on the surrounding society but rather how the person in question self-identifies. If that girl, who looks white, chose to embrace her black ancestry and tell people she's part black, she could. These people might think she's being silly as she doesn't appear "black", but that would certainly be her right as it's part of her personal history. Don't forget, about 3 - 5% of the Caucasian population in this country has black ancestry without realizing it.

For individuals with partial black ancestry who appear "black" (like Obama for example) it doesn’t have as much to do with self-identification because society quickly does the “identifying” for them. They are treated as black because they visually appear as being black, so in turn they immediately self-identify as black as well. It's not so much that he is seen as a black man because we realize half of his ancestry is black, which would be what you’re implying with the “one drop rule” comment I think, but rather it's because he appears to be a black man to outside society.
Bychance37

United States

#12 Feb 15, 2013
Autumn Lynn wrote:
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Did you look at the pics? White.
I'm light skinned like you but I'm still black.
Bychance37

United States

#14 Feb 15, 2013
Ben Witty wrote:
Just a heads-up, nothing brings out the haters like a young, smart, beautiful girl. DJHixx was a classic example. The attacks on her were relentless.
Noone is hating on this girl. I am prettier than her and I'm black. I'm light not dark and I am a beautiful princess. Just because I'm very light skinned doesn't mean I am not black. I am just very attractive I'm not hating. I don't have to hate anyone because I am light and attractive. Asswipe!
Masud_S_Hoghughi __

London, UK

#15 Feb 15, 2013
...around one third of white amerikans have at least 2% kneegroid dna (~3 blak out of 128 ancestors)- but this doesn't make them niccuz.........

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Masud_S_Hoghughi __

London, UK

#16 Feb 15, 2013
Bychance37 wrote:
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I'm light skinned like you but I'm still black.
...you're a nicca, but not as blak as a spade........so somebody with a torch could spot u in a coalmine........
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#17 Feb 15, 2013
Autumn Lynn wrote:
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Did you look at the pics? White.
Is that you in those pics?

If so, you look Latina.

http://s1358.beta.photobucket.com/user/Autumn...

But, I assume you've posted this in the light of Black Histry Month.

The Emancipation of Isaac & Rosa | 1863.

Caption: Isaac and Rosa, emancipated slave children from the free schools of Louisiana. Photographed by Kimball, 477 Broadway, NY. 1863.

The two (ages 8 and 6) were part of a group of eight former slaves from New Orleans (five children and three adults) sent to the North on a publicity tour to (1) raise money for schools that served former slaves run by abolitionist groups after the Union Army occupied much of Louisiana in 1863, and (2) to arouse the sympathy of countrymen who were preoccupied by war, and more often than not ambivalent on the issue of African-American slavery. One of the major reasons for the great success of this campaign was that four of the children were of mixed race.....but looked white (due to rape of African descent women by white men). So much so that the Harper's Weekly ran a story on them titled" "Emancipated Slaves: White and Colored."

These portraits were produced in the format of cartes de visite (CDVs), albumen prints the size of a calling card, and sold for 25 cents each.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackheritage/49...

You should read the actual book about them....

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2004670391/

http://www.nyupress.org/webchapters/978081475...

Bye
Darkness Falls

Lockhart, TX

#20 Feb 15, 2013
Autumn Lynn wrote:
The one drop rule is a complete load. What would you do if you lived your whole life thinking your white and with everybody else thinking it? You wouldn't just rearrange your whole identity because you found out your real grandfather was black, would you? This is a white girl with a black grandfather. You couldn't pick her out in a bar.
http://s1358.beta.photobucket.com/user/Autumn...
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http://s1358.beta.photobucket.com/user/Autumn...
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http://s1358.beta.photobucket.com/user/Autumn...
The one-drop rule was necessary for establishing social classification as well as keeping wealth in the white establishment where it belongs.
Masud_S_Hoghughi __

London, UK

#21 Feb 15, 2013
sand_-cracker wrote:
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and where do you draw the line?
.....kind of a tricky question.....

.....at 40%, people display obvious kneegroid features - frizzy hair, gorilla nose, rubber lips,........but I would regard mariah carey as a mixed race kneegress, even though she's only 25% kneegroid.......

.....but for single digit percentages - these people r not niccuz.....even though many blax would claim them.........

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#22 Feb 15, 2013
sand_-cracker wrote:
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Sorry to disappoint you, but there is no such thing like a "white girl with a black grandfather". One is not always free to choose his/her identity. You're suffering from a dangerous illusion here, IMHO. If you think otherwise, just wait until some racist white boy shouts the N-word at you.
How would he even know?

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#23 Feb 15, 2013
It's interesting that, so far at least, black posters seem a lot more interested in policing identity than white ones, although it seems to stem from a belief that I have self-hatred I need to get over to be who I truly am or that I will not be accepted by whites. But I already have been happy with my life and accepted by my community for my two decades of life. It's not a matter of wanting to become someone I'm not. It's a matter of staying who I am. I found out about an ancestor I hadn't known about. Am I suddenly a different person? Am I obligated to see myself differently or present myself differently to others?

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#25 Feb 15, 2013
sand_-cracker wrote:
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Such things always become known, sooner or later. Don't think that you're only one who passes or has passed for white.
I'm not putting on a disguise. I'm just being who I've always been.
Juan Cuchifrito

United States

#26 Feb 15, 2013
sand_-cracker wrote:
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Stop trying to pass as one who you aren't. Accept your true nature and live in harmony with yourself. Find and watch the movie "Lost Boundaries", it's about some folks with the same problem as you.
Who cares what what type of ancestry someone has? Why can't you just look at them as individuals?
Black Deal

Lockhart, TX

#27 Feb 15, 2013
Juan Cuchifrito wrote:
<quoted text>Who cares what what type of ancestry someone has? Why can't you just look at them as individuals?
Man that aint reality

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