We are losing real men and it's sad :(
BigKnob

United States

#230 Jun 25, 2013
Another bms a victim post, you bw are good at focusing on whats negative, about bm, negative statistics is your game, huh. Youre the only race of women who lose the most productive men in your community to other enthic groups of women,in large numbers and you response is, to keep talking s**t, to keep trying to antagonize the bm, you masquerade disrespect as an opinion, you obfuscate truth, here is what you dont talk about, since 1973 there have more than 17 1/2 million abortions by bw , 80% out of wedlock birth, 60% out of that 80% by more than one man, bw have more children than bm are fathers, because of a small pool of men fatherd these children its called hypergamy, the ratio is 2 bw to 1 bm but all bm are to blame not your thug boyfriends, I know you dont like this but dispute these facts, in california every bm I see whos got it going on is with a non bw, and I wonder why.

“Black Luv or Bust!”

Level 7

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#231 Jun 25, 2013
KPITRL wrote:
<quoted text>
I notice that a lot of black women want or say they want a real black man or a strong black man. But most of the time they really don't or they don't know how to handle one when he initially portrays anything near that image. They miss out because a lot of them tend to go for that go along with the flow type brother, only so he can turn in to somebody they don't know later. But he's probably just being that strong man he was scared of being in the beginning. That, or he may be crazy for real.
What's funny is, they know these brothers are going with the flow, but they would put him over a brother who initially speaks the truth, as long as the fake brother can temporarily make her feel good.
Then you have the ones that chastizes the brother at the start by claiming he's not suppose to let her get away with this or that, but at the same time can't handle a man who stands his ground or speak the truth at the start. And I'm not even talking about a brother speaking loud or angry. I'm talking about a brother just speaking honestly. They like to mistake this as him having an attitude or being cocky, or even being crazy, even when they know he's right and they're wrong.
The bottom line is, many of them seem to be so used to brothers holding back until they get the butt. Then he don't want her anymore because he had to put up with her hardhead in the beginning, and he realizes it wasn't really worth it. It's like the same ole song. And if he don't get out soon, then he'll be looking at 18 years of child support. It's like a vicious cycle that sometimes seem to never end.
Thank you...and as you see this comment was met with the very same type of hatred and rejection as the the of bm that you have described here!

And how very right you are indeed!

*I've typed it several times here on Topix and said several hundred times at least...

Real men...who actually care for and about you...will tell you things that you just may not want to hear...for the sake of both your well being and that of the relationship!

If all that your man tells you is that you're beautiful,smart,sexy and perfect....somethings wrong somewhere!

“Black Luv or Bust!”

Level 7

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#232 Jun 25, 2013
*This brings to mind the idea that men don't or should never argue or debate with women...huh?

This is a new idea that some bw have picked up from non-bm....who are passive aggressive....men who allow a woman to be irresponsible for her thoughts,words and actions in a personal relationship!

These are the same type of men...who tell bw that they have no faults,issues or room for improvement!

When in fact we all do!

*These men are passive aggressive manipulators of women...they drive women crazy...because they never just come out and express themselves...for fear of being "The bad guy"...but again...this is poison to a relationship!
BigKnob

United States

#233 Jun 25, 2013
brownskin_beauty wrote:
I swear every time there's something about men it just gets turned around on women. Real men take responsibility. When has a leader blamed his people for his misfortune. Everyone is entitled to what they want and have certain beliefs, but if you believe independent women are damaging the community, then you are crazy. Maybe if more men stood up to the plate and started to give us a reason to trust, there wouldn't be a high demand of independent women, but since most men don't guess we better stay in college and continue strive for lucrative careers. If no one going to take care of me, guess what I have to take care of me.
maybe just maybe if women gave less lip service, and be more of a supportaive mate, the man would stick around, a nagging womam is like a dripping fawcet never ending, todays bw dont support her mans goals, ideals, aspirations, you dont know how to play up to a man, stroke his ego, I told my bw that I was going to start my own business, she said, you need to stay on that wms job, you dont need a business, a bm cant run a business, as you can see thats very encouraging, very helpful, very supportaive, I know another bw who wont let son to go to college, why, he might come home with a ww, she said, unbelieveable.
brownskin_beauty

Houston, TX

#236 Jun 26, 2013
Transition wrote:
Any body remember the phrase " I am a strong, educated and independent back woman who don't need no man! " no?
I see so many black women going around saying this to black men but expect pity when they leave them for another race or abandon them where they are facing trouble; then they actually have to guts to turn around and say black men are dogs, sellouts and don't support their own women?
I don't want to sound rude but if you're so "Strong" and "Independent" then you should not need a man.
Another thing, why do some black women use attitude to justify their strength?(look on youtube) I was picked on by other black girls because they said i acted like an "Oreo" and that i was a "white girl wanna be" because i didn't act loud mouthed, use slang and didn't have any attitude to wards my teachers or my piers. I found this funny because i was the only girl in the class that actually wore their natural hair out.
Writing this made me think whats wrong with back people today?
This doesn't apply to all black women so don't try to accuse me of generalizing.
I have to say it is sad that some women felt that way, but why do we have to pay for it generation after generation. The honest truth is there are some women that don't need man, just as there are some men that don't need women, but honestly most of these people don't need one maybe financially, but emotionally most of them are empty. Not all, but most. I must admit the things you described were things I was a victim of, I wasn't allowed to wear certain clothes, so I wasn't stylish in their opinions and teased for that and trust black schools are like going to rip the runway everyday. I spoke a certain way, so I wanted to be white. I didn't listen to hip hop (really wasn't allowed), so I wasn't black. Didn't eat pork, so I was muslim lol. Before I had a perm I was Rosa Parks after people swore my hair was weave, they use to tug at it and everything, now I'm back natural and have develop my own sense of style and intellect because I'm not influenced by the slaves around me. Slaves to vanity, media, and materialism. When I went to a school ethnically diverse, I was so frightened at first because I knew I would deal with racism, but once people got to know me, they accepted me, I always got left handed compliments like your not like most blacks, even a teacher told me see your one of the ones raised right, yea crazy, but best believe I educated them to know there are good black people we just get overshadowed by the bad ones. Even at that school the ones who fought against me because I was a good dancer and guys liked me(cause now it wasn't the issue of looks we wore uniforms) were you guessed it black girls. Though all these things occurred plus more, I never gave up on blacks I have friends of all ethnicity's I don't need black friends, but I still accept them because I know what it's liked to be generalized and stereotyped. Now that I'm in college I have really close black friends who have had the same struggle as me, they aren't carrying chip on their shoulders and they are very beautiful, nicely shaped women. You know what type of men approach us thugs, excuse me wanna be thugs, weed heads(Yes they get excepted into good colleges, they usually get kicked out the first semester though), oh and my favorite taken people, occasionally athletes and frat brothers, but they usually want sex. You know who else approaches us, non black men, now some of them got issues, but some of them are usually longing for long term relationships, but how long must we wait for brothers before we become sell-outs
Phoenix

Houston, TX

#237 Jun 26, 2013
AAW r H-WORD wrote:
10 And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart.

7:11 (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:

7:12 Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.)

7:13 So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him,

7:14 I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows.

7:15 Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee.

7:16 I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt.

7:17 I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon.

7:18 Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves.

7:19 For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey:

7:20 He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed.

7:21 With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him.

7:22 He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks;

7:23 Till a dart strike through his liver; as a bird hasteth to the snare, and knoweth not that it is for his life.

7:24 Hearken unto me now therefore, O ye children, and attend to the words of my mouth.

7:25 Let not thine heart decline to her ways, go not astray in her paths.

7:26 For she hath cast down many wounded: yea, many strong men have been slain by her.

7:27 Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.
Seek Jesus.
Phoenix

Houston, TX

#239 Jun 26, 2013
BigKnob wrote:
Another bms a victim post, you bw are good at focusing on whats negative, about bm, negative statistics is your game, huh. Youre the only race of women who lose the most productive men in your community to other enthic groups of women,in large numbers and you response is, to keep talking s**t, to keep trying to antagonize the bm, you masquerade disrespect as an opinion, you obfuscate truth, here is what you dont talk about, since 1973 there have more than 17 1/2 million abortions by bw , 80% out of wedlock birth, 60% out of that 80% by more than one man, bw have more children than bm are fathers, because of a small pool of men fatherd these children its called hypergamy, the ratio is 2 bw to 1 bm but all bm are to blame not your thug boyfriends, I know you dont like this but dispute these facts, in california every bm I see whos got it going on is with a non bw, and I wonder why.
There's nothing wrong with IR. It's wonderful. Perhaps you need to engage in it.
Axe-Me-Anything

Buffalo, NY

#240 Jun 26, 2013
MOSES-11 wrote:
Malcolm replaced with Superfly - movie and music
MLK replaced with Shaft - movie and music
Womanhood replaced with Foxy Brown - movie and music.
Now look at MONARCH PROGRAMMING and see ut all.
You forgot one...

Section IV of the Voting Rights Act replaced with NOTHING - timely and hysterical.
Axe-Me-Anything

Buffalo, NY

#242 Jun 26, 2013
MOSES-11 wrote:
blah blah blah
Think AAs will listen to you more if you copy and paste paranoid rantings from the web

http://vigilantcitizen.com/hidden-knowledge/o...

as opposed to those from your tiny mind, Momo?

Raptors Revenge

“Democraps are stupid.”

Level 5

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#243 Jun 26, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
Women own at least half the problem. I think women are responsible for about 90% of the problem.
I have to agree with that. Every time you see a couple arguing, it is because a woman does not have control of her emotions. And with most of them, it is ME ME ME.
brownskin_beauty

Houston, TX

#246 Jun 26, 2013
The reason most black men date white women is because it's easy, it's more accepting, black men will high five you, society will make you feel whole because white women are the prize here, there men do a great job at making them tantalizing. We actually had a discussion about it at my university in a segment of boys vs. girls and it was asked to well diverse group of guys from jocks and fraternity to medical and pre-law students and on. Some were even dating white women. They all unanimously said they were easy, didn't give no attitude they do what they say and so on. Don't get me wrong I love white women and I think many are beautiful, but we are being real. One guy proceeded to tell a story about how one use to clean for him and do a whole lot of things he didn't ask for, of course many complained are you looking for a maid or a women lol. This guy is now dating a black girl and no she doesn't do none of that, but he worked hard for her, so he sees her worth. I admit many guys touched on the attitude thing with black women, but we are University student mostly from middle class or upper middle class homes, those statistics you speak of don't define many of us. That usually define lower class blacks. It funny we are the only race that would bring light to such things I never hear whites bring up statistics of people living in trailer parks sleeping with their relatives. It funny that you say we are killing black babies abortions, but aren't we creating thugs by choosing to raise them alone because that's what most fatherless kids turn to. I know brother, I agree. women need to close their legs I tell it to my promiscuous friends all the time, but ye without sin cast the first stone. If women need to close their legs then brothers need to keep it in their pants if neither party's are ready for any type of responsibility why lie down with each other. Same men who complain of these women are the same ones sleeping with them.
Proudtobeasister

London, UK

#248 Jun 26, 2013
brownskin_beauty wrote:
The reason most black men date white women is because it's easy, it's more accepting, black men will high five you, society will make you feel whole because white women are the prize here, there men do a great job at making them tantalizing. We actually had a discussion about it at my university in a segment of boys vs. girls and it was asked to well diverse group of guys from jocks and fraternity to medical and pre-law students and on. Some were even dating white women. They all unanimously said they were easy, didn't give no attitude they do what they say and so on. Don't get me wrong I love white women and I think many are beautiful, but we are being real. One guy proceeded to tell a story about how one use to clean for him and do a whole lot of things he didn't ask for, of course many complained are you looking for a maid or a women lol. This guy is now dating a black girl and no she doesn't do none of that, but he worked hard for her, so he sees her worth. I admit many guys touched on the attitude thing with black women, but we are University student mostly from middle class or upper middle class homes, those statistics you speak of don't define many of us. That usually define lower class blacks. It funny we are the only race that would bring light to such things I never hear whites bring up statistics of people living in trailer parks sleeping with their relatives. It funny that you say we are killing black babies abortions, but aren't we creating thugs by choosing to raise them alone because that's what most fatherless kids turn to. I know brother, I agree. women need to close their legs I tell it to my promiscuous friends all the time, but ye without sin cast the first stone. If women need to close their legs then brothers need to keep it in their pants if neither party's are ready for any type of responsibility why lie down with each other. Same men who complain of these women are the same ones sleeping with them.
Some very good points. Here are some questions.

In the U.K and the U.S.A (Western countries). Out of blacks and whites, who do you think are the poorest people living in those countries?

With your answer in mind. Is it a wonder that those people would have an attitude?

Secondly......

Have you heard of cases of people who do very well in their culture, work very hard and are law abiding and do above average to make sure they tick all the boxes and still don't get no job or promotion or are being paid less for a job that their are over-qualified to do?

And then people wonder why they have an attitude!

And if you wonder why it is the same group all the time....I suggest people take a look at the answer to question 1.

Sometimes its not really the people..But the figure that happens to represents the people.
brownskin_beauty

Houston, TX

#249 Jun 26, 2013
What!!! I don't even know who those people are I'm AA and Jamaican as I mentioned in another thread. I 'm guessing, well I actually know there's a lot of trolls here, I'm not one just a girl looking or opinions

“ News”

Level 6

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#252 Jun 26, 2013
brownskin_beauty wrote:
The reason most black men date white women is because it's easy, it's more accepting, black men will high five you, society will make you feel whole because white women are the prize here, there men do a great job at making them tantalizing. We actually had a discussion about it at my university in a segment of boys vs. girls and it was asked to well diverse group of guys from jocks and fraternity to medical and pre-law students and on. Some were even dating white women. They all unanimously said they were easy, didn't give no attitude they do what they say and so on. Don't get me wrong I love white women and I think many are beautiful, but we are being real. One guy proceeded to tell a story about how one use to clean for him and do a whole lot of things he didn't ask for, of course many complained are you looking for a maid or a women lol. This guy is now dating a black girl and no she doesn't do none of that, but he worked hard for her, so he sees her worth. I admit many guys touched on the attitude thing with black women, but we are University student mostly from middle class or upper middle class homes, those statistics you speak of don't define many of us. That usually define lower class blacks. It funny we are the only race that would bring light to such things I never hear whites bring up statistics of people living in trailer parks sleeping with their relatives. It funny that you say we are killing black babies abortions, but aren't we creating thugs by choosing to raise them alone because that's what most fatherless kids turn to. I know brother, I agree. women need to close their legs I tell it to my promiscuous friends all the time, but ye without sin cast the first stone. If women need to close their legs then brothers need to keep it in their pants if neither party's are ready for any type of responsibility why lie down with each other. Same men who complain of these women are the same ones sleeping with them.
No race of men ever did, will, or ever will keep their pants on when their women drop theirs. So why expect this from black men.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#256 Jun 26, 2013
I don't think all Black girls are loud. There is usually one girl in the group who start shouting and the others get loud too.
BigKnob

United States

#257 Jun 26, 2013
Phoenix wrote:
<quoted text>
There's nothing wrong with IR. It's wonderful. Perhaps you need to engage in it.
Its bw who complaine about ir until they get into one themselves. You didnt respond to nothing I wrote, the bm is tired of bw always online, in the media with this negative bs, you never have nothing uplifting to say, you promote this lie that all bw are college educated and all bm are in jail, gay, broke, you never mention the fact that alot of bw are bumping tacos with each other, I see this all the time in cali, bw see it to, for the record, 1.4 million young bm in colleges, 600,000 more than are in the system, 25.1% of bm between the ages of 25 to 55 have a college, degree, high school drop out rate is only 12% which means more young bm finnish than dont, see the movie hoodwinked, by janks morgan , ivory todlson, byran marks, these bm scholars and other bm have refuted this bs you bw talk on here like they say, show me the numbers.

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#258 Jun 26, 2013
brownskin_beauty wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to say it is sad that some women felt that way, but why do we have to pay for it generation after generation. The honest truth is there are some women that don't need man, just as there are some men that don't need women, but honestly most of these people don't need one maybe financially, but emotionally most of them are empty. Not all, but most. I must admit the things you described were things I was a victim of, I wasn't allowed to wear certain clothes, so I wasn't stylish in their opinions and teased for that and trust black schools are like going to rip the runway everyday. I spoke a certain way, so I wanted to be white. I didn't listen to hip hop (really wasn't allowed), so I wasn't black. Didn't eat pork, so I was muslim lol. Before I had a perm I was Rosa Parks after people swore my hair was weave, they use to tug at it and everything, now I'm back natural and have develop my own sense of style and intellect because I'm not influenced by the slaves around me. Slaves to vanity, media, and materialism. When I went to a school ethnically diverse, I was so frightened at first because I knew I would deal with racism, but once people got to know me, they accepted me, I always got left handed compliments like your not like most blacks, even a teacher told me see your one of the ones raised right, yea crazy, but best believe I educated them to know there are good black people we just get overshadowed by the bad ones. Even at that school the ones who fought against me because I was a good dancer and guys liked me(cause now it wasn't the issue of looks we wore uniforms) were you guessed it black girls. Though all these things occurred plus more, I never gave up on blacks I have friends of all ethnicity's I don't need black friends, but I still accept them because I know what it's liked to be generalized and stereotyped. Now that I'm in college I have really close black friends who have had the same struggle as me, they aren't carrying chip on their shoulders and they are very beautiful, nicely shaped women. You know what type of men approach us thugs, excuse me wanna be thugs, weed heads(Yes they get excepted into good colleges, they usually get kicked out the first semester though), oh and my favorite taken people, occasionally athletes and frat brothers, but they usually want sex. You know who else approaches us, non black men, now some of them got issues, but some of them are usually longing for long term relationships, but how long must we wait for brothers before we become sell-outs
I know you do not need men, especially you lesbians do not need men. All I am saying is that when you do not need men, leave us the efff alone. Stop having sex. Go get lost on a deserted island or something.
BigKnob

United States

#259 Jun 26, 2013
In america, right now there 6 millon more women than men, ( male shortage ) in college women out number men 57% to 43% which means you college girls ( all races of women ) are going to have a hard time finding your male counter part. There are 4.7 million more ww than wm (census ) 16.6 million ww are single, never married. Which means you irbw are going to have to compete with ww for her wm, you'll also have to compete with asian, pacific island, arab, persian, indian, latin, mixed, and other enthic women, dont you see how all this plays into the hands of the bm, come to california and see for self, see other look at how the bm is built, the look at sports all the enegry translate in sexual activity, in their minds. The ww has been going to jamaica for years to get with rasta mon, because of the wht/male shortage by 4.7 million, much greater than the bm to bw ratio in america, so you sisters you keep comming at these brothers with vinegar, instead of honey, pretty soon the bm will be staring in ir directed by date out in a theater near you. Day -O

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#260 Jun 26, 2013
brownskin_beauty wrote:
The reason most black men date white women is because it's easy, it's more accepting, black men will high five you, society will make you feel whole because white women are the prize here, there men do a great job at making them tantalizing. We actually had a discussion about it at my university in a segment of boys vs. girls and it was asked to well diverse group of guys from jocks and fraternity to medical and pre-law students and on. Some were even dating white women. They all unanimously said they were easy, didn't give no attitude they do what they say and so on. Don't get me wrong I love white women and I think many are beautiful, but we are being real. One guy proceeded to tell a story about how one use to clean for him and do a whole lot of things he didn't ask for, of course many complained are you looking for a maid or a women lol. This guy is now dating a black girl and no she doesn't do none of that, but he worked hard for her, so he sees her worth. I admit many guys touched on the attitude thing with black women, but we are University student mostly from middle class or upper middle class homes, those statistics you speak of don't define many of us. That usually define lower class blacks. It funny we are the only race that would bring light to such things I never hear whites bring up statistics of people living in trailer parks sleeping with their relatives. It funny that you say we are killing black babies abortions, but aren't we creating thugs by choosing to raise them alone because that's what most fatherless kids turn to. I know brother, I agree. women need to close their legs I tell it to my promiscuous friends all the time, but ye without sin cast the first stone. If women need to close their legs then brothers need to keep it in their pants if neither party's are ready for any type of responsibility why lie down with each other. Same men who complain of these women are the same ones sleeping with them.
I do not particularly find white women attractive, never have, although there are one or two who were and are special to me. And when they are attractive, they bring all that white supremacy crap to the table. I do not think we need any more western white man values. That makes no sense. What we need to do is reject western values and reclaim African philosophy, values, ideals and ideologies. If a white woman can go along with that, cool.

Also, as a Muslim, I do not accept Christian and Jewish values which is another way of saying western white man values. Understand this. As Muslims we reject, nudity, loud mouthing, "dating", all types of immorality. I have said many times that I will not accept any black woman who rejects Islam. The same applies to white women. If she is the average white Christian or Jew, I refuse to have her.

On the other hand, if she is a good Muslimah, I do not care if she is white, green, purple, yellow, red, white and blue, I will give her a fair chance. If I marry her, I will Protect her and demand that my African brothers and sisters treat her right.
brownskin_beauty

Houston, TX

#261 Jun 26, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
I know you do not need men, especially you lesbians do not need men. All I am saying is that when you do not need men, leave us the efff alone. Stop having sex. Go get lost on a deserted island or something.
lol ok, I got it, thanks for the advice, just can't win with these people, I feel like I'm talking to some mental patients lol,

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