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raptor8154

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#1 Jul 29, 2007
If you don't want to change into something that black men find attractive; please stop giving black men dirty looks when you see them with women of other races.

You can be strong and independent all by your damn self.

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Since: Jul 07

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#2 Jul 29, 2007
I am curious...what is it that the black woman needs to "change into" that will make the black man want her?

As a black woman I am ladylike, educated, feminine, not loud, hard working, ambitious, keep a wonderful house, can cook, do needlework (although much to my mothers despair I cannot make clothes, never had the interest), can cook, have never been married, have no children (but I want them someday...AFTER I find a husband first), believe in respecting others as I respect myself...I could go on...

I am sure that I share these characteristics with many many black women!

So what is it that must change?
raptor8154 wrote:
If you don't want to change into something that black men find attractive; please stop giving black men dirty looks when you see them with women of other races.
You can be strong and independent all by your damn self.

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Since: Jul 07

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#3 Jul 29, 2007
And do excuse the typo in the previous post...I was not paying azttention as I should have.

Since: Jul 07

Kulpsville, PA

#4 Jul 29, 2007
Preach on, my brother. I used to be one of those black women that despise interracial relationships, but now since I joined BMV and I listen to their shows, I've changed my mind. Maybe if we as black women get our stuff together, we wouldn't have to boo-hoo and cry when we see black men with women of other races. It starts with us. Back in the day, people don't know this but black women were the most sought-after women in the world. Even though the standard of beauty was European and still is, black women were the most attractive. If they weren't, the white slave owners wouldn't even touch them at ALL, whether forced or not. Now, we're the least attractive because we MAKE ourselves to be that way. Most of us let ourselves go and mistake being Mo'Nique's size as being thick. Back then, in my opinion, black women looked more prettier. Look at the older photos of black women black in the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s. They looked better back then. Now, we look like crap. I was at the BMV forum, and I saw some recent pictures of black women at the board, and I'm not talking about black female celebrities like Beyonce, Janet Jackson, or Nia Long. I'm talking about everday, average black women in clubs, neighborhoods, and what have you, and I was embarrassed as a black woman. I was saying to myself, "How far have we gone". And the independent thing? WHOOO, don't get me started. I will cover up the whole forum about that. Sometimes we as black women can be too strong and independent to the point of being masculine, and that's not attractive. Most men want women who are feminine, playful, submissive, sweet, delicate, and soft-spoken. I'm glad that you post that. Thank you.
Kathy Kat

Killeen, TX

#5 Jul 29, 2007
raptor8154 wrote:
If you don't want to change into something that black men find attractive; please stop giving black men dirty looks when you see them with women of other races.
You can be strong and independent all by your damn self.
I don't think alot of women are upset that black men are dating out of their race or give them dirty looks. You know what I can only speak for me!?! I am not upset that black men date out of their race I am happy for them.. Anyone in the black community that isn't supportive of their black bother or sisters happiness has a problem.

Since: Jul 07

Englewood, CO

#6 Jul 29, 2007
raptor8154 wrote:
If you don't want to change into something that black men find attractive; please stop giving black men dirty looks when you see them with women of other races.
You can be strong and independent all by your damn self.
What do you mean change into clothes you like or change to act the the white woman you really want? Don't put your choice of wanting a white woman on us sisters it is not our fault. If you want a white woman more power to you brother but take responsibility for your decision.

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#7 Jul 29, 2007
My question is still unanswered. What exactly is it thta we are to change? And why must you both assume all back women carry negative characteristics.

As for being independent. Yes I am independent. I am my own person. There is nothing wrong with that. All it means is that I am good on my own...but I am even better when evenly yoked to a compatible mate. Before "two can become one"...you must have been separate/apart/individual/inde pendent to begin with!
raptor8154

Gainesville, FL

#8 Jul 29, 2007
Missy _Luv wrote:
<quoted text>What do you mean change into clothes you like or change to act the the white woman you really want? Don't put your choice of wanting a white woman on us sisters it is not our fault. If you want a white woman more power to you brother but take responsibility for your decision.
Who said anything about wanting white women? Why do you feel so threatened by them?
raptor8154

Gainesville, FL

#9 Jul 29, 2007
Kathy Kat wrote:
<quoted text> I don't think alot of women are upset that black men are dating out of their race or give them dirty looks. You know what I can only speak for me!?! I am not upset that black men date out of their race I am happy for them.. Anyone in the black community that isn't supportive of their black bother or sisters happiness has a problem.
Believing in feminism is NOT supporting your black brothers.
raptor8154

Gainesville, FL

#10 Jul 29, 2007
Chocolate Princess wrote:
My question is still unanswered. What exactly is it thta we are to change? And why must you both assume all back women carry negative characteristics.
As for being independent. Yes I am independent. I am my own person. There is nothing wrong with that. All it means is that I am good on my own...but I am even better when evenly yoked to a compatible mate. Before "two can become one"...you must have been separate/apart/individual/inde pendent to begin with!
I would answer your question, but then Ashley would come in here and accuse me of wanting to "stone" women to death.

Since: Jul 07

The Bay Area

#11 Jul 29, 2007
raptor8154 wrote:
If you don't want to change into something that black men find attractive; please stop giving black men dirty looks when you see them with women of other races.
You can be strong and independent all by your damn self.
Who cares about being something Bm find attractive?

Get over yourself..there are many other races of men that beat you(aam) hands down, not all aaw are attracted to aam. and since im here why don't you take your own advice and tell aam to stop being so threatened, immature and jealous when they see an aaw with a white guy..

Since: Jul 07

Englewood, CO

#12 Jul 29, 2007
raptor8154 wrote:
<quoted text>
Who said anything about wanting white women? Why do you feel so threatened by them?
Absolutely not I do not feel threatened by a white woman but you did say black woman better change or stop giving you dirty looks and excuse me you did say if you were with woman of "different races" so I guess I jumped the gun and assumed you meant white sorry for my assuming this did you mean another race sorry.
Kathy Kat

Killeen, TX

#13 Jul 29, 2007
raptor8154 wrote:
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Believing in feminism is NOT supporting your black brothers.
You were discussing being upset if the brothers date out of their race. I dont have to believe in what you believe in to support black men.
raptor8154

Gainesville, FL

#15 Jul 29, 2007
Missy _Luv wrote:
<quoted text>Absolutely not I do not feel threatened by a white woman but you did say black woman better change or stop giving you dirty looks and excuse me you did say if you were with woman of "different races" so I guess I jumped the gun and assumed you meant white sorry for my assuming this did you mean another race sorry.
Never been attracted to white women, never will be. Sorry.
Kathy Kat

Killeen, TX

#16 Jul 29, 2007
Blackcherri wrote:
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Who cares about being something Bm find attractive?
Get over yourself..there are many other races of men that beat you(aam) hands down, not all aaw are attracted to aam. and since im here why don't you take your own advice and tell aam to stop being so threatened, immature and jealous when they see an aaw with a white guy..
I think according to him black women are bottom of the barrel and no one wants us. we had better change or be by ourselves.
Kathy Kat

Killeen, TX

#18 Jul 29, 2007
raptor8154 wrote:
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Believing in feminism is NOT supporting your black brothers.


Main Entry: fem·i·nism
Pronunciation:'fe-m&- "ni-z&m
Function: noun
1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
2 : organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests
- fem·i·nist /-nist/ noun or adjective
- fem·i·nis·tic /"fe-m&-'nis-tik/ adjective
Sounds good to me if its a problem for you thats personal and i still support brothers and their happiness.....

Since: Jul 07

Englewood, CO

#19 Jul 29, 2007
raptor8154 wrote:
<quoted text>
Never been attracted to white women, never will be. Sorry.
Okay but then you post was pretty confusing it sounded like if us sisters don't straighten your brothers will be with other races. I thought being you posted it your meant you would be included in doing so or why would you post that threat? I guess I don't get your intention in the post.

Since: Jul 07

The Bay Area

#20 Jul 29, 2007
Kathy Kat wrote:
<quoted text> I think according to him black women are bottom of the barrel and no one wants us. we had better change or be by ourselves.
too many fine non-black men to be by ourselves, im around them everyday.
raptor8154

Gainesville, FL

#21 Jul 29, 2007
Missy _Luv wrote:
<quoted text>Okay but then you post was pretty confusing it sounded like if us sisters don't straighten your brothers will be with other races. I thought being you posted it your meant you would be included in doing so or why would you post that threat? I guess I don't get your intention in the post.
You don't get the intention of my post because you are looking for ways to shame me on a personal level. This isn't about me, it's just a warning to black women.

This is your future.

“Be Ready to Enjoy Everyday!”

Since: May 07

Southern California

#23 Jul 30, 2007
yourfav721 wrote:
even if black women choose not to be with black men, the odds are still staggering lol...there a nearly 3 million more women in the world than men.(not including men in prison)just alone here in atlanta, for every 12 women theres one man! and that ratio keeps getting larger from men dying in war. so you can go to another country or another race, lots of women still are going to be left single.
I'm sorry for saying this, but if a man cannot accept me for who I am then that is a man that I don't want. And, if all black men cannot accept me, then believe me...I'll have no trouble finding a non-black man who will accept an easy going, educated (or soon to be), professional woman.

As for feminism...I want equality of the sexes as much as I want equality of the races.

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