Promising black women face barriers, study says

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Like many other Americans, black women desire to be leaders in corporate America.
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Rosie O D

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Aug 22, 2007
 
At least one woman recognized that "barriers" are not cuased by those evil white "folk". If it weren't for white males the world would be a better place. Shame on those nassty white men...all the problems in the world are THEIR fault!
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Aug 22, 2007
 
That just one of the many barriers they face. Yawn....
tarzan

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Aug 22, 2007
 
go figure. also facing many barriers are asians, whites, mexicans, sweedish, germans.. business is a dog eat dog world. boo hoo. its not just black women who face difficult hurdles. lets face it, a real business man/women should know that business doesent revolve around color or sex soley. thats just an excuse used to point blame for not reaching goals. If anything black women have an advantage as a minority. They qualify for more programs than the regular joe….cry me a river.
You forgot

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Aug 22, 2007
 

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You forgot ugly people...they don't do as well either. Or the disabled. Sure there are the rare stories, but usually the people that go to the top are attractive and white, male or female.
Truth shall set you free

Indianapolis, IN

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Aug 22, 2007
 
I have been lucky in the fact that I have had great mentors in my professional development - white, Asian, Latina and African American to help me navigate through hurdles in my career. My drive and ability has served me well. However, race and gender is relevant in today's workforce. Women still make less than men, cents per dollar and Black women make even less, I believe that it's around 67 cent per dollar. Couple that with the fact that learning the de facto and de jure rules of the workforce - some African American women are at a disadvantage - this is the first generation of the workforce where you can see images of yourselves in positions of authority. In the past, executives were white males - and the tend to hire like. Not on purpose, it's just that way. Women in general weren't placed in leadership roles - that's why there is maybe one or two women in Fortune 50 companies - ADM and HP; I believe. Now, for me, my mother was in corporate America - and fortunately she was able to teach me the ins and outs - grooming, speech, education and socilization. This is everyday learning for other communities. many college educated Black men and women taught school, were small business owners, social workers, nurses, etc. While the economic status may have been good - the exposure to Corporate America wasn't as strong - so the casual conversation of networking didn't exist. It's changing. A new generation of Black women are coming to our board rooms and yes; they need mentors and champions to facilitate their growth. The other difference is that new leaders have grown up in diverse neighborhoods so, hiring a Black, Latino or Asian isn't odd - it's just I am hiring a classmate. We have to go beyond the words and just be real...there are hurdles to advancement for Black Women - but it isn't impossible.
bryan

Indianapolis, IN

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Aug 22, 2007
 
black females have have special status in the workplace. all they have to do is claim racism and presto, they get the promotion. i've seen it happen too many times, quality, production and customer service go down the drain but the company gets a tax break. the really sad part is that truley capable and qualified people either get fired or have to work for this caricature of a professional.
Human nature

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Aug 22, 2007
 
"Truth" has an eloquent post, above. I suggest we all read it from the perspective that people will be people, no matter where you are. If a white christian male were trying to start a business in Senegal, do you think there would be barriers to his success? Absolutely! And the human emotions that go into those creating those barriers are identical to those facing minorities here in the US. That doesn't make it right, it's just the way it is (by the way, it doesn't always mean it's "wrong" either, although much of the time is is). Our problem is very simple, and it's called "sin". Every bit of bias we have is due to our sinful nature. There's a really good book that tells us all about our sin, and even tells us how to overcome it. I'll bet most even own this book.
Houdini

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Aug 22, 2007
 
AAWWWW! who isn't having a hard time.Were you trying to stir or start something up with article. My heart bleeds! My poor white male VETERAN husband had been discriminated against since 1968. So stop this bull!And he won't complain or recognize it. So get over it everyone has a battle to fight.
W E B DuBois

Indianapolis, IN

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Aug 22, 2007
 
Human nature wrote:
"Truth" has an eloquent post, above. I suggest we all read it from the perspective that people will be people, no matter where you are. If a white christian male were trying to start a business in Senegal, do you think there would be barriers to his success? Absolutely! And the human emotions that go into those creating those barriers are identical to those facing minorities here in the US. That doesn't make it right, it's just the way it is (by the way, it doesn't always mean it's "wrong" either, although much of the time is is). Our problem is very simple, and it's called "sin". Every bit of bias we have is due to our sinful nature. There's a really good book that tells us all about our sin, and even tells us how to overcome it. I'll bet most even own this book.
The "Turth" post you reference are the bleetings of someone quite possibly educated at a state university or small private inistituiton via some diversity (affirmative action) program who now wants to bless the world with their "knowledge. Mom was in corporate America..which is code for Mom got hers via affirmative action and so did I. "Trutht" may be and probably is a very nice person, but pleeeeeeze...don't pander with the commentary on wage comparisions and the lack of "networking "skills. Lots of people had to learn all this on their own and much more...aside from the race or ethnic background. Drop the race card and your postion gains strength...play the race card and you appear to be a stooge of the malevolent "community".
Justice

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Aug 22, 2007
 
So who do you think brings the drugs into society, we sure don't, we don't owe the majority of the plants, nor land to produce it. True, it's not totally the white mans fault, but the white man sure is not innocent. Regardless if people want to believe it or not we are all living within conditioning, over the years the shape, size and color of it may change but it's still conditioning. Until WE ALL are able to accept and admit that, nothing will change. We're all to blame, the human race; black people/African Americans (whichever you prefer) are at fault for not breaking through these mental barriers, while white people/Europeans are at fault for placing these barriers upon black people from the beginning. Let's be real here, any other ethnic group of people can migrate to Amerika and get more respect then black people and black people are the back bone of this Amerikan civilization. The article speaks the truth whether or not we all are willing to admit it. I live through it everyday; my friends with different career paths live with it everyday.
...and to ohReally, Rosie O D didn't label herself as an "angry black racist", you did. Now I'm telling you to get a clue!!! One more thing, white folks do the same amount of dirt as black people do, the only difference is white people...that you should know, so let's um...think about it. The man controls your weak mind.
Truth shall set you free

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Aug 22, 2007
 
Why is it so difficult to believe that race and gender are issues in Corporate America. Are the disabled affected by prejudice? Yes; that’s why they too are a federal protected class – has your husband used any of the services – education, workforce development, etc? Then first hand he should know that favoritism exists and I would image that your husband is one of two things – very compassionate or bitter. When emotions rise up – my assumption is that a vein is hit and we have to deal with it. If we just look at data – without the emotion – in most corporations in the country – most are run by white males – not women – males. There is the reality of a glass ceiling in the upper echelon of leadership – historically white males went to college, established commerce and hired in numbers those that could do the jobs – not bad – just reality. When my mother entered the workforce in the 70s she was not only the first Black women; but one of the few women nationally in her position – because she went to college, obtained a degree, worked in the summers and moved up accordingly. My grandparents, both went to college – yet the opportunities weren’t there so he went into the military – and my grandmother taught school – not because they didn’t want to work in corporate America – but because of the barriers of race – remember in up until the 60s races could not mix – that small legal mandate called segregation. Naturally, during that time races were unfamiliar to each other…and were legally mandated not to mix. There is a shift only because our nation is just 40 something years out of apartheid. I am saddened by the lack of critical thinking and true understanding that this is real. People want to rant about how Black people take companies under – is that accurate or is it diarrhea of the mouth. Enron, US West (Qwest), MCI and the list goes on and on…who was at the helm? Who makes the laws in the nation? Why is our country in debt? Who owns 90 percent of the wealth? With money, there is power, with power there is influence. People of color do not make decisions on a macro level – the power base is not there. No the truth is that many of you are angry – you’re just aiming it at an easy target – the disenfranchised.
Common Sense

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Aug 22, 2007
 
Wow, there are a lot of ignorant people commenting on this story.
Justice

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#14
Aug 22, 2007
 
..and that comments makes you less ignorant?
New Day

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Aug 22, 2007
 
bryan wrote:
black females have have special status in the workplace. all they have to do is claim racism and presto, they get the promotion. i've seen it happen too many times, quality, production and customer service go down the drain but the company gets a tax break. the really sad part is that truley capable and qualified people either get fired or have to work for this caricature of a professional.
It's really sad that you are so sad. Boo Hoo to you!
Electric Sol

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Aug 22, 2007
 
@Truth shall set u free
Excellent concise and to the point post. All this drivel and blather about black people taking companies under is some bitter underperforming middle management shmuck who must find a target to blame for his failed attempts to move up the corporate ladder. As for the people ranting about afrim action, get your facts in order. Go to any govt website especially the dept of labor and you will plainly see that caucasian women have been the greatest beneficiaries of afrim action policies and programs. The overwhelming majority of all executive level positions in private and publicly held corporations are held by white males. And to say that no barriers exist is blantly false and does nothing to open the doors that would facilitate a more equitable distribution of economic and social resources in this country, but that's not what they want anyway. As soon as the playing field isn't grossly skewered in their favour they cry "reverse-racism" and "reverse discrimination" two of the most ridiculous terms I've ever heard.
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Aug 22, 2007
 
The sad thing is black women have more unfair advantages than any other group in history. And they insist on complaining? Thou has GOT to be kidding me.
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Aug 22, 2007
 
tarzan wrote:
go figure. also facing many barriers are asians, whites, mexicans, sweedish, germans.. business is a dog eat dog world. boo hoo. its not just black women who face difficult hurdles. lets face it, a real business man/women should know that business doesent revolve around color or sex soley. thats just an excuse used to point blame for not reaching goals. If anything black women have an advantage as a minority. They qualify for more programs than the regular joe….cry me a river.
Black women do qualify for minority programs, unfortunately our city county council president, Monroe Gray, and the rest of the Ghetoo mafia are stealing these opportunties from them and using them for themselves and their families.

We must vote out all crooked black politicians in November!
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Aug 22, 2007
 
If you hire the best qualified people it would be tough to prove discrimination. You hire incompetent white males such as the ones who have run the country to the ground..discrimination cases would be easy to prove...the leaders among the incompetent white males are Rumsfeld, Feith, Wolfowitz, Brownie Boy, and countless others in the US government as well as incompetent corporate white males who have run the airline industry to the ground.
Robert

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Aug 22, 2007
 
Electric Sol wrote:
@Truth shall set u free
Excellent concise and to the point post. All this drivel and blather about black people taking companies under is some bitter underperforming middle management shmuck who must find a target to blame for his failed attempts to move up the corporate ladder. As for the people ranting about afrim action, get your facts in order. Go to any govt website especially the dept of labor and you will plainly see that caucasian women have been the greatest beneficiaries of afrim action policies and programs. The overwhelming majority of all executive level positions in private and publicly held corporations are held by white males. And to say that no barriers exist is blantly false and does nothing to open the doors that would facilitate a more equitable distribution of economic and social resources in this country, but that's not what they want anyway. As soon as the playing field isn't grossly skewered in their favour they cry "reverse-racism" and "reverse discrimination" two of the most ridiculous terms I've ever heard.
Black people taking companies under?

Last I saw all the airline industry executives who filed for bankruptcy were white. All the auto executives who dont even understand the American consumer were white. The shady executive at Home Depot they were trying to get rid off was white. Results from high profile American corporations indicate that white males dont perform, and sit there on their butts and collect their stock options.
Robert

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Aug 22, 2007
 
Justice wrote:
..and that comments makes you less ignorant?
He did not elect Tom Tancredo for congress.

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