perceptions of black men as thugs

perceptions of black men as thugs

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#1 Jun 17, 2013
I was reading a sports article on a website earlier where I noticed all the whites were celebrating the character of Tim Duncan and Tony Parker, while simultaneously labeling Lebron James and Dwayne as thugs. I begin to reflect upon what were the undergirding racist ideology/belief/principle or criteria for whites in assigning this label to black males: Because to my knowledge, Lebron nor DWade have never been in trouble with the law or have they been know to participate in activity that would warrant their being labeled as THUGS.

So, I responded with the below post: I would appreciate your view and insights on this phenomenon.

"American whites like for Blacks to be quiet, soft spoken and ostensibly docile, like Tim Duncan and Tony Parker. Should they be unabashed and unapologetic about their gifts or success, like Lebron James or Dwayne Wade; or should they not shed their urban mannerism and gestures in exchange for more Eurocentric ones, they are assigned the label of being thugs.

This offends them to their racist core because it threatens their social hegemony and renders them insecure about their place in the hierarchy. It terrifies them when little Billy or Mary Kaye dares to esteem Lebron or Dwayne Wade instead of some insipid version of themselves; and heavens forbids, should little Billy begin to express himself with the latest Urban-centric colloquialism; the psychological bastardization and denigration of these brothers will surely begin. If any blacks should not tacitly acknowledge through their behavior that Eurocentric behavior and mannerisms are the Golden standard: they are sent straight to the THUG pile, by whites with their Unconscious racist azzes!"

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#2 Jun 17, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
I was reading a sports article on a website earlier where I noticed all the whites were celebrating the character of Tim Duncan and Tony Parker, while simultaneously labeling Lebron James and Dwayne as thugs. I begin to reflect upon what were the undergirding racist ideology/belief/principle or criteria for whites in assigning this label to black males: Because to my knowledge, Lebron nor DWade have never been in trouble with the law or have they been know to participate in activity that would warrant their being labeled as THUGS.
So, I responded with the below post: I would appreciate your view and insights on this phenomenon.
"American whites like for Blacks to be quiet, soft spoken and ostensibly docile, like Tim Duncan and Tony Parker. Should they be unabashed and unapologetic about their gifts or success, like Lebron James or Dwayne Wade; or should they not shed their urban mannerism and gestures in exchange for more Eurocentric ones, they are assigned the label of being thugs.
This offends them to their racist core because it threatens their social hegemony and renders them insecure about their place in the hierarchy. It terrifies them when little Billy or Mary Kaye dares to esteem Lebron or Dwayne Wade instead of some insipid version of themselves; and heavens forbids, should little Billy begin to express himself with the latest Urban-centric colloquialism; the psychological bastardization and denigration of these brothers will surely begin. If any blacks should not tacitly acknowledge through their behavior that Eurocentric behavior and mannerisms are the Golden standard: they are sent straight to the THUG pile, by whites with their Unconscious racist azzes!"
Here is a brief History & origin of the word "Thug"!
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/594...

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#3 Jun 17, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
I was reading a sports article on a website earlier where I noticed all the whites were celebrating the character of Tim Duncan and Tony Parker, while simultaneously labeling Lebron James and Dwayne as thugs. I begin to reflect upon what were the undergirding racist ideology/belief/principle or criteria for whites in assigning this label to black males: Because to my knowledge, Lebron nor DWade have never been in trouble with the law or have they been know to participate in activity that would warrant their being labeled as THUGS.
So, I responded with the below post: I would appreciate your view and insights on this phenomenon.
"American whites like for Blacks to be quiet, soft spoken and ostensibly docile, like Tim Duncan and Tony Parker. Should they be unabashed and unapologetic about their gifts or success, like Lebron James or Dwayne Wade; or should they not shed their urban mannerism and gestures in exchange for more Eurocentric ones, they are assigned the label of being thugs.
This offends them to their racist core because it threatens their social hegemony and renders them insecure about their place in the hierarchy. It terrifies them when little Billy or Mary Kaye dares to esteem Lebron or Dwayne Wade instead of some insipid version of themselves; and heavens forbids, should little Billy begin to express himself with the latest Urban-centric colloquialism; the psychological bastardization and denigration of these brothers will surely begin. If any blacks should not tacitly acknowledge through their behavior that Eurocentric behavior and mannerisms are the Golden standard: they are sent straight to the THUG pile, by whites with their Unconscious racist azzes!"
Just what I'd expect from ignorant azz honkeys. How can anyone think D.Wade is a thug? He doesn't act up. His personality isn't much different than Tim Duncan and Tony Parker.
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#4 Jun 17, 2013
Redefined wrote:
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Here is a brief History & origin of the word "Thug"!
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/594...
Thanks for the elucidation, though I was aware of the genesis of the nomenclature, I just think that it's liberal application to black men who are Eurocentrically non conformist in style, mannerism and behavior has it's roots in the racist ideology of the white supremacist power structure.

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#5 Jun 17, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
I was reading a sports article on a website earlier where I noticed all the whites were celebrating the character of Tim Duncan and Tony Parker, while simultaneously labeling Lebron James and Dwayne as thugs. I begin to reflect upon what were the undergirding racist ideology/belief/principle or criteria for whites in assigning this label to black males: Because to my knowledge, Lebron nor DWade have never been in trouble with the law or have they been know to participate in activity that would warrant their being labeled as THUGS.
So, I responded with the below post: I would appreciate your view and insights on this phenomenon.
"American whites like for Blacks to be quiet, soft spoken and ostensibly docile, like Tim Duncan and Tony Parker. Should they be unabashed and unapologetic about their gifts or success, like Lebron James or Dwayne Wade; or should they not shed their urban mannerism and gestures in exchange for more Eurocentric ones, they are assigned the label of being thugs.
This offends them to their racist core because it threatens their social hegemony and renders them insecure about their place in the hierarchy. It terrifies them when little Billy or Mary Kaye dares to esteem Lebron or Dwayne Wade instead of some insipid version of themselves; and heavens forbids, should little Billy begin to express himself with the latest Urban-centric colloquialism; the psychological bastardization and denigration of these brothers will surely begin. If any blacks should not tacitly acknowledge through their behavior that Eurocentric behavior and mannerisms are the Golden standard: they are sent straight to the THUG pile, by whites with their Unconscious racist azzes!"
BTW, you were on point about 'em wanting us to be passive and docile. It's no coincidence that they hated the most outspoken black spokesmen like Ali, who always kept it a 100..
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#6 Jun 17, 2013
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Just what I'd expect from ignorant azz honkeys. How can anyone think D.Wade is a thug? He doesn't act up. His personality isn't much different than Tim Duncan and Tony Parker.
LOL! C-Ciph, you just cut to the chase huh? Bwahahahaha!
But you are correct in that there is little variation between the two, but it is evident of their racist core that they believe that they are entitled to label bm according to "how they think we should be" instead of, how we are.

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#7 Jun 17, 2013
Some people don't understand that black men are a little bit more outspoken and boisterous.
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#8 Jun 17, 2013
Cee_Cipher wrote:
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BTW, you were on point about 'em wanting us to be passive and docile. It's no coincidence that they hated the most outspoken black spokesmen like Ali, who always kept it a 100..
Excellent point! Ali and his no apologetic essence during those turbulent times stands tall amongst us. Even to this day, they do not like black men who do not cede to them by kissing their cultural azzes!

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#9 Jun 17, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
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Thanks for the elucidation, though I was aware of the genesis of the nomenclature, I just think that it's liberal application to black men who are Eurocentrically non conformist in style, mannerism and behavior has it's roots in the racist ideology of the white supremacist power structure.
I understand exactly what ur saying. It's TRUE Blacks who have certain mannerisms are demonized. It all goes back to The Minstrel Shows which were created to demonize any aesthetics associated with African Americans appear less appealing.
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#10 Jun 17, 2013
Carmiana wrote:
Some people don't understand that black men are a little bit more outspoken and boisterous.
We are indeed animated, unrestrained and unapologetic in expressing ourselves culturally and as black men.
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#11 Jun 17, 2013
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I understand exactly what ur saying. It's TRUE Blacks who have certain mannerisms are demonized. It all goes back to The Minstrel Shows which were created to demonize any aesthetics associated with African Americans appear less appealing.
On point! I remember once here in Los angeles I was waiting in a line to see a Movie and there was this older poorly dressed brother walking by talking to the people in line in the urban patois. Mind you, he wasn't begging, but nonetheless, suddenly some white woman begins to lecture him: She said, "Sir, you are a shame to your race and I can barely understand a word you are saying."

The brother turned to her, and in a clear, baritone, eloquent voice and said, " Madame forgive me for I did not wish to expose your paucity of intellect by burdening you with excessive erudition." The crowd roared in laughter and every one pulled out a $20 spot and gave it to him and she, of course, turned colors and STFU!

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#12 Jun 17, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
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Excellent point! Ali and his no apologetic essence during those turbulent times stands tall amongst us. Even to this day, they do not like black men who do not cede to them by kissing their cultural azzes!
But these guys are nowhere as outspoken or controversial as Ali, not even close. They just do what they're paid to do on the court. No club fighting, no acting up in public, no records...etc
Infact, the only black athlete I can think of who got that unapologetic "y'all can go to hell" attitude is Mayweather.

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#13 Jun 17, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
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We are indeed animated, unrestrained and unapologetic in expressing ourselves culturally and as black men.
Yes, you sure are.

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#14 Jun 17, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
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On point! I remember once here in Los angeles I was waiting in a line to see a Movie and there was this older poorly dressed brother walking by talking to the people in line in the urban patois. Mind you, he wasn't begging, but nonetheless, suddenly some white woman begins to lecture him: She said, "Sir, you are a shame to your race and I can barely understand a word you are saying."
The brother turned to her, and in a clear, baritone, eloquent voice and said, " Madame forgive me for I did not wish to expose your paucity of intellect by burdening you with excessive erudition." The crowd roared in laughter and every one pulled out a $20 spot and gave it to him and she, of course, turned colors and STFU!
[email protected]! That white bimbo got served! I wish I was there to see the look on her face.
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#16 Jun 17, 2013
Cee_Cipher wrote:
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But these guys are nowhere as outspoken or controversial as Ali, not even close. They just do what they're paid to do on the court. No club fighting, no acting up in public, no records...etc
Infact, the only black athlete I can think of who got that unapologetic "y'all can go to hell" attitude is Mayweather.
Exactly, nothing in either or their public character merits their being labeled as Thugs. In addition to their both being mild mannered young heads, they both have vested interest in the preservation of their images for their corporate endorsement sake. Not to suggest that they are being disingenuous, but rather smart and true to their nature.

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#17 Jun 17, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
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On point! I remember once here in Los angeles I was waiting in a line to see a Movie and there was this older poorly dressed brother walking by talking to the people in line in the urban patois. Mind you, he wasn't begging, but nonetheless, suddenly some white woman begins to lecture him: She said, "Sir, you are a shame to your race and I can barely understand a word you are saying."
The brother turned to her, and in a clear, baritone, eloquent voice and said, " Madame forgive me for I did not wish to expose your paucity of intellect by burdening you with excessive erudition." The crowd roared in laughter and every one pulled out a $20 spot and gave it to him and she, of course, turned colors and STFU!
WOW!!! How 'white' of her. I would have gave him 30.
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#18 Jun 17, 2013
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[email protected]! That white bimbo got served! I wish I was there to see the look on her face.
LOL! It was classic.....one for the ages! I bet from that day forth, she hesitated before making presumptions about brothers based on ostensible appearances. It was some Funny shyt!
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#19 Jun 17, 2013
Carmiana wrote:
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Yes, you sure are.
You know what Carm, I love moving back and forth between the two extremes: Urban, relaxed and expressive and then refined, cultured and erudite. In many cases, this dexterity can be an asset in the face of anemic expectations others oftentimes have of us.

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#20 Jun 17, 2013
i realized long ago white ppl are full of shyt. it doesnt matter if youre an educated blk man or woman if you dont act or behave the way they think u should, then theyll label you, thug or ghetto. i say fck em.
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#22 Jun 17, 2013
blondegirl214 wrote:
wm are afraid of bm.
Not really sure why, but its pretty obvious to me that they are.
Blondie, I think that in more precise terms, they are afraid of our unapologetic, non conformist posture as men. Imagine that if the world over, people deems your likeness and mannerism as the archetype of masculine behavior and then there is this one sub group, black men, who stands alone in cares nothing about worshiping out the alter of their eurocentrism; it most certainly becomes unnerving to their sense of preeminence.

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