Brown Skin is Not dark Skin .stop lum...
Diversity

Powhatan, VA

#21 Apr 6, 2008
well some of don't like being called what we are not..I have been called light before and I said no i am brown

“fullblown technicolour ”

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#22 Apr 6, 2008
CHOCOLATE FLAVOR wrote:
<quoted text>your right illusioned.however some people want to create categories,and label them good and bad .and categorized themselves as being superior to those who are darker to make themselves feel good.why else would a person try to convince themselves that they arent dark.any color brown is dark to the white man .were all niccas as candella calls it to the racist whites.so i guess because they have self hate issues and feel inferior to the white man they re trying to make up black skintone catergories and place themselves at the top so they can have a group of people that they feel better than and in this case i guess thatll be the darker brown blacks.this thread is so ignorant .the creater is in denial of what they are and needs someone to help her learn how to love herself.maybe some self esteem classes will do the job.they exist.because its obvious that they have a problem being labeled or called dark.if they were called light they wouldnt be saying brownskin isnt lightskin would they?theyll instead take that as a compliment and keep on truckin.theyre sad and pethetic.DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I MADE THAT THREAD NOW CANDELLA,YOU HATER.since you think im so racist .you the racist you pale lover.
I completely agree with you, it's really pathetic and sad. I don't understand how dividing each other will make things any better. There are better things to be worried about other than how somebody could mistake you for a MEDIUM BROWN when you're really HIGH YELLOW.

“fullblown technicolour ”

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#23 Apr 6, 2008
Bychance37 wrote:
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Whites make differences according to hair and eye color because that's whats different about them. However they do use the terms fair, dark, ruddy or olive. Hispanics and east Indians talk about light dark all the time, so yes other races do. For black people it's hair and eyes sometime, but mostly skin tone is were a lot of us differ in the physical. Is it negative? I don't think so. Does it matter? Obviously to some.
I do think it's negative though. Espeically since categorising people does nothing but divide them. What's the point of it? As for white people, they aren't as self-concious as blacks are. I don't see them having the same issues with colour like we are. I didn't know that about Hispanics, but I do know some things about East Indians so I do agree with you, many of that discourse is built into their languauge.

I just think it's silly as hell. It's bad enough that some blacks don't even consider me BLACK becuase I'm East African, and then there are blacks who are further diving themselves based on skin tone--wtf? I don't know, I don't get the rationale behind it. You're black either way, besides, I've never seen somebody coming up to somebody and mistaking them for dark when they're lighter, or vice versa. I've never seen that happen, so I don't get it.
Somali Warlord

Birmingham, UK

#24 Apr 6, 2008
some people are obsessed with color classification

“Beautiful Princess.....”

Level 6

Since: Jan 08

Los Angeles, CA.

#25 Apr 6, 2008
illusioned wrote:
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I do think it's negative though. Espeically since categorising people does nothing but divide them. What's the point of it? As for white people, they aren't as self-concious as blacks are. I don't see them having the same issues with colour like we are. I didn't know that about Hispanics, but I do know some things about East Indians so I do agree with you, many of that discourse is built into their languauge.
I just think it's silly as hell. It's bad enough that some blacks don't even consider me BLACK becuase I'm East African, and then there are blacks who are further diving themselves based on skin tone--wtf? I don't know, I don't get the rationale behind it. You're black either way, besides, I've never seen somebody coming up to somebody and mistaking them for dark when they're lighter, or vice versa. I've never seen that happen, so I don't get it.
I understand what you're saying and it is crazy. We are all black a lot of people in this country are sensitive about skin color. Whereas some just use it as a means for description.

I recently took a makeup class, I was the only black woman in the class. When I did the makeup of the other students I matched it to their skintone including the shade I used for their brow, if a woman is blonde or has brown hair one doesn't use a black pencil on her. One has to match it to her complexion.

When it came to them doing my makeup they used black pencil, dark makeup that was obviously too dark. I looked ridiculous, almost like a woman from east India. I am very light skinned, much like Thandie Newton or Lisa Bonet and no one there seemed to understand that. My hair is brown with natural red highlights, my eyebrows and eyelashes are the same. The black eyebrows made my lashes vanish. The white instuctor kept referring to me as very dark simply because he knew that I was black the fact that I was a little darker than him was ignored and when it comes to makeup it should have been considered because when I looked in the mirror I looked like a stranger to myself. So I do understand what this woman is saying, she is just saying that her identity is important too. We are one people but don't all look the same.

There is blue black and light white skin and everything in between. Too many shades to count? Yes I think so but I understand he meaning. But I understand where you're coming from too. And you know what? We're all right! ;D
BlackBrit

Nottingham, UK

#26 Apr 6, 2008
Black americans seem to be so extremely obssessed with skin colour and skin tone.

AA need a heavy dose of self-esteem and self respect.

It's so disgusting how people are here discussing about how yellow , brown or dark their skin is while there are black american men being jailed for the slight things that a white american wouldn't even be arrested for.

“Beautiful Princess.....”

Level 6

Since: Jan 08

Los Angeles, CA.

#27 Apr 6, 2008
illusioned wrote:
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I do think it's negative though. Espeically since categorising people does nothing but divide them. What's the point of it? As for white people, they aren't as self-concious as blacks are. I don't see them having the same issues with colour like we are. I didn't know that about Hispanics, but I do know some things about East Indians so I do agree with you, many of that discourse is built into their languauge.
I just think it's silly as hell. It's bad enough that some blacks don't even consider me BLACK becuase I'm East African, and then there are blacks who are further diving themselves based on skin tone--wtf? I don't know, I don't get the rationale behind it. You're black either way, besides, I've never seen somebody coming up to somebody and mistaking them for dark when they're lighter, or vice versa. I've never seen that happen, so I don't get it.
PS: I live in California and a lot of Mexicans make differences. Say things like I'm light meaning they have a more Spanish and therefore are better then darker Mexicans. Silliness. It happens in every groups that has different shades within them.

“fullblown technicolour ”

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#28 Apr 6, 2008
Bychance37 wrote:
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I understand what you're saying and it is crazy. We are all black a lot of people in this country are sensitive about skin color. Whereas some just use it as a means for description.
I recently took a makeup class, I was the only black woman in the class. When I did the makeup of the other students I matched it to their skintone including the shade I used for their brow, if a woman is blonde or has brown hair one doesn't use a black pencil on her. One has to match it to her complexion.
When it came to them doing my makeup they used black pencil, dark makeup that was obviously too dark. I looked ridiculous, almost like a woman from east India. I am very light skinned, much like Thandie Newton or Lisa Bonet and no one there seemed to understand that. My hair is brown with natural red highlights, my eyebrows and eyelashes are the same. The black eyebrows made my lashes vanish. The white instuctor kept referring to me as very dark simply because he knew that I was black the fact that I was a little darker than him was ignored and when it comes to makeup it should have been considered because when I looked in the mirror I looked like a stranger to myself. So I do understand what this woman is saying, she is just saying that her identity is important too. We are one people but don't all look the same.
There is blue black and light white skin and everything in between. Too many shades to count? Yes I think so but I understand he meaning. But I understand where you're coming from too. And you know what? We're all right! ;D
I get what you're saying, I do understand where the op is coming from as well. I mean, some people don't know anything about Africa (I'm East African) and they all think we have this default look and it's silly. There is variation in race, absolutely. Africans are suffering a horrible double standard in that regard. I'm light-skinned too, in some ways I don't even look black I have a small nose and wide eyes and long hair. But people automatically assume I'm not black, that I'm mixed (WTF?!) or something ridiculous like that. It's like people forget where a continent. But personally, I still do think that the categorisation of colour just brings a stigma for darker sisters, and obviously it promotes the lighter = better, philosphy. While whites do have this classification, and other races as well, they don't put it in a hiearchy, you know? As if the lighter is better, etc. I wish we all agreed that Africans have a diversity too just like any other race, and every single person who is black regardless of skin tone is beautiful too. I guess we all are right in the end :)

“Beautiful Princess.....”

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Los Angeles, CA.

#29 Apr 6, 2008
illusioned wrote:
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I get what you're saying, I do understand where the op is coming from as well. I mean, some people don't know anything about Africa (I'm East African) and they all think we have this default look and it's silly. There is variation in race, absolutely. Africans are suffering a horrible double standard in that regard. I'm light-skinned too, in some ways I don't even look black I have a small nose and wide eyes and long hair. But people automatically assume I'm not black, that I'm mixed (WTF?!) or something ridiculous like that. It's like people forget where a continent. But personally, I still do think that the categorisation of colour just brings a stigma for darker sisters, and obviously it promotes the lighter = better, philosphy. While whites do have this classification, and other races as well, they don't put it in a hiearchy, you know? As if the lighter is better, etc. I wish we all agreed that Africans have a diversity too just like any other race, and every single person who is black regardless of skin tone is beautiful too. I guess we all are right in the end :)
Thanks, I think we're on the same page. And thank you for not misunderstanding what I was saying, that happens a lot. I appreciate the fact that we could just chat like two people instead of arguing. ;D

You know when I was growing up I thought everyone in Africa looked like the people in Roots! Those were the images that the media showed us here. If a person doesn't read or look in books featuring African people one might never know the true beauty of the people over there. I didn't look to see where you are if you're in North America then you know what I mean.

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Since: Sep 07

Ann Arbor

#30 Apr 6, 2008
Diversity wrote:
Like ice cream there is spectrum/variation of different skin tones with black women. Why can't some folks just accept brown skin black women are in the middle? some people just want to put them in the dark girl category as if brown skin women have it hard like the dark skin girls (I love all my black people) the truth is alot don't. Put Ciara or Ashanti next to Naomi Cambell and you clearly see the difference.
To a light high yellow person the brown girl is darker but to the dark girl she is lighter. But really light,brown,dark there are beautiful black women.
I made this thread in response top what I read on another topic on here.
Well this is certainly a bone of contention for many blacks, I am a medium brown, so truthfully I was never teased concerning my coloring. I've had light skinned and dark skinned friends and they were the ones who were picked on for their complexions.

“fullblown technicolour ”

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#31 Apr 6, 2008
Bychance37 wrote:
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Thanks, I think we're on the same page. And thank you for not misunderstanding what I was saying, that happens a lot. I appreciate the fact that we could just chat like two people instead of arguing. ;D
You know when I was growing up I thought everyone in Africa looked like the people in Roots! Those were the images that the media showed us here. If a person doesn't read or look in books featuring African people one might never know the true beauty of the people over there. I didn't look to see where you are if you're in North America then you know what I mean.
You're a very kind person, so I had no trouble misunderstanding you. I get what you mean about the images peopled send about Africa, it's ridiculous. I'm from Canada (Calgary specifically) but yeah, in Africa we have many different people, and there's variation within a country too. You get the feeling here in America that people don't realise we are a continent, like any other continent, and it's really silly.

“OUT OF MANY, ONE PEOPLE”

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Since: Jan 08

Queens New York Born

#32 Apr 6, 2008
Diversity wrote:
Like ice cream there is spectrum/variation of different skin tones with black women. Why can't some folks just accept brown skin black women are in the middle? some people just want to put them in the dark girl category as if brown skin women have it hard like the dark skin girls (I love all my black people) the truth is alot don't. Put Ciara or Ashanti next to Naomi Cambell and you clearly see the difference.
To a light high yellow person the brown girl is darker but to the dark girl she is lighter. But really light,brown,dark there are beautiful black women.
I made this thread in response top what I read on another topic on here.
Sounds like your trying to split hairs Black is black who cares, but light skinned is crearly light skinned and dark is dark. You start doing what your doing and we are lost!!!LOL
Diversity

Powhatan, VA

#33 Apr 6, 2008
BlackBrit wrote:
Black americans seem to be so extremely obssessed with skin colour and skin tone.
AA need a heavy dose of self-esteem and self respect.
It's so disgusting how people are here discussing about how yellow , brown or dark their skin is while there are black american men being jailed for the slight things that a white american wouldn't even be arrested for.
SHUT THE HELL UP! FOr you info we don't obsess over color how many post have I made on Color? this is my first one big damm deal that I think people should stop saying we are what we are not damm Did I not say we are all black and beautiful>?

ALSO FOR YOU INFO MR. BRITISH WE TALK ABOUT THE INJUSTICE SYSTEM ALL THE TIME SO SHUT UP! And please most of us have family of all differnt colors including our parents so NO WERE NOT HUNG UP ON IT, WERE FAMILY

“Whatever”

Since: Apr 08

none of your business

#34 Apr 6, 2008
I hate to break it to you but one can be light/dark and be brown. Remember there are various shades of brown. A brownskin person like ashanti, sanaa lathan, and queen latifah are light while gabby union, brandy, and mary j are dark. And for your info most black people are actually just brown.

“OUT OF MANY, ONE PEOPLE”

Level 1

Since: Jan 08

Queens New York Born

#35 Apr 6, 2008
Sound like a few dark complexion people in here have issues with their skin tone, sound like bullshit to me.

“OUT OF MANY, ONE PEOPLE”

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Queens New York Born

#36 Apr 6, 2008
And chill wit the high yellow shit, Dark-skin catz always think its ok for them to make little sly backhanded comments about light skinned catz CHILL wit dat.

“Beautiful Princess.....”

Level 6

Since: Jan 08

Los Angeles, CA.

#37 Apr 6, 2008
illusioned wrote:
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You're a very kind person, so I had no trouble misunderstanding you. I get what you mean about the images peopled send about Africa, it's ridiculous. I'm from Canada (Calgary specifically) but yeah, in Africa we have many different people, and there's variation within a country too. You get the feeling here in America that people don't realise we are a continent, like any other continent, and it's really silly.
Thank you, you are very kind and patient as well. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

“Whatever”

Since: Apr 08

none of your business

#38 Apr 6, 2008
G-MACK wrote:
Sound like a few dark complexion people in here have issues with their skin tone, sound like bullshit to me.
You aint neva lied lol! When I say darkskin I am usually talking about people holly robinson peete complexion and darker. And I have no idea why the thread starter has issues with being identified as dark like it's a curse or something.

“Caribbean American”

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#40 Apr 6, 2008
CHOCOLATE FLAVOR wrote:
<quoted text>you must not have been around the world to say something so unbelievably rediculous.there are asians that are literally white who live near russia in north aisa,and some are yellowish brown which is how the typical asian looks ,and some almost blue/black in indonesia and other places near the southeast asia areas.latinos in cuba and in the dominican republic who arent really a race, but still they come as dark as akon and as light as jennifer lopez and lighter and most of them all have straight hair.so that statement is very inaccurate.
Dude trust me no one have more shades then black. We have light skin who look almost white, then we have tan, chestnuts, coca, yellow we have over 5+ different shades of yellow. And brown is to much to count. And dark brown I wont even waste my time counting that. Get you're facts straight hun.
BlackBrit

Nottingham, UK

#41 Apr 6, 2008
This is not even division...but colourism...Try and bring that nonsense here in the UK and u will slapped into the next century.

Black people are being denied of essential things in life and here are AA talking about skin tone!!

Let me break it down for you all. Whitey doesn't notice the skin tone ..all they see is a Black person..Period!!

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