Why do many American BM refuse to hol...

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#241 Jul 13, 2013
Spotted Girl wrote:
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They mistake treating them well for "weakness," not realizing that in White culture, people treat each other well all the time without being weak nor expecting anything. That is the normal way people interact with one another. We are nice to one another because that is a cultural thing and how we *have to* be. It doesn't mean we want to have sex with them. Leave it to mostly BM to twist being good to others as an invitation to have sex, get raped, get robbed, or take advantage of them.
IM REALLY SERIOUS - what causes some people to believe that being good to others is an invitation to have sex, get raped, get robbed, or take advantage of others?

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#242 Jul 13, 2013
Spotted Girl wrote:
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Actually, it is many. I could give you names of others. Many is more than a few, and 100 in each town is not a few. If a number of people of a group are guilty beyond what members of other groups are, then the entire group needs targeted for remedial education. Perhaps it is fair and appropriate to punish entire groups where significant numbers of members do the same immoral, illegal, or antisocial things. Then that will allow the ones who are not guilty to take care of the ones who got them in trouble. That is how you hand unsolved incidents at schools. You just punish everyone together and you can almost guarantee it will be solved in a day. Someone will know someone who knows something and work their way up the chain and pound whoever it is that did it until they confess.
Also remember that if you are a woman, then taking up for other women against such men is your responsibility. We don't need to make excuses for anyone who disrespects or abuses fellow women, no matter what their race, income level, desirability, or any other attribute. If someone is wrong, they are wrong, and taking up for wrongdoers harms any community. The bond between women as friends should be deeper than race, nationality, political opinion, etc.
But you are right that we should not paint overly broad strokes.
We should not have to be forced to explain ourselves. Any person, if they have common decency, will leave strangers alone when they see them. Also, decent people on a job will do their jobs. I can give many situations where BM and WM were in a group, but only the BM stared at me. The rest had their minds on their work. That said, some have noticed it the other way too, but not around here.
Of the women who are having problems with many BM in their area thinking of them as sex objects, maybe they should check out the STD stats for their area. Where men act this way, I would assume the disease rates are higher too. Maybe we should approach this dilemma of harassment by BM with scientific rigor and fully analyze the situation and the causes. I think a portion of it has to do with a lower income class, magical thinking, and an entitlement mentality. They don't want to work to be happy, but they expect others to somehow give it to them. I don't mean just BM in that, but any of these insecure men who hound women.
No joke - do you think the magical thinking is delusions or symptoms of a personality/ mental disorder?

Others say the entitlement comes from being coddled as children mostly from single parent households, but entitlement is also a symptom of antisocial personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder.

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#244 Jul 13, 2013
LearnLiveLove wrote:
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It's unfortunate that this has been your experience, however I would caution surmising that this is reflective of many black men. A lot of times people will use their personal experiences as an indictment against an entire group when you can find bad apples across every ethnicity.
We need to get back to judging the individual for their behavior and avoid generalizations.
Some men unfortunately do not realize when they are out of line and we have to be clear/convey our standards when they do things that make us uncomfortable. I wish you the best in trying to address these issues but let's not characterize "many" BM or men in general for being like this. You have every right to distance yourself from those who are inappropriate; I would too! However there are a lot of men (black, white, brown, etc.) who know how to be professional and conduct themselves respectfully.
Cheers.
Yes there is bad in every ethnicity. I am referring specifically to regular accounts of boundary violations from BM. So please keep the response to the topic as its already been discussed that BM in many areas overwhelmingly conduct themselves in this manner...even in areas where they know better...which leads to me discussing...

Many of the ones I'm referring to are very strategic with this. I say it because they only do this when we are alone, have told me to hush because their significant other is on the phone than proceeded to do violate boundaries, etc - so it's not all innocent as you described.

This has happened regularly in at least five states and yes other races have men have done it but its few and far between, where they either casually approach or keep strict professionalism. Yes others hit on me so it's not that they aren't attracted to me. Others generally treat me with reflect so this behavior is unique to many BM. No I dress conservatively and no I'm not flirting with them. Yes I'm a BW and no I don't hate BM. I just hate being regularly subjected to this and others who either deny the experiences if others and/ or victim blame. This mentality alone is the reason I refuse to interact because it seems that the general consensus is if anything were to happen its the victim's fault.
You are Joking

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#245 Jul 13, 2013
Masud_S_Hoghughi__ wrote:
<quoted text>....most kneegrows r raised by single muthaz.......
You wmfkers are catching up fast in the UK by the latest trend, so nothing to bleat about, dingbat.

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#247 Jul 13, 2013
LearnLiveLove wrote:
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It's unfortunate that this has been your experience, however I would caution surmising that this is reflective of many black men. A lot of times people will use their personal experiences as an indictment against an entire group when you can find bad apples across every ethnicity.
We need to get back to judging the individual for their behavior and avoid generalizations.
Some men unfortunately do not realize when they are out of line and we have to be clear/convey our standards when they do things that make us uncomfortable. I wish you the best in trying to address these issues but let's not characterize "many" BM or men in general for being like this. You have every right to distance yourself from those who are inappropriate; I would too! However there are a lot of men (black, white, brown, etc.) who know how to be professional and conduct themselves respectfully.
Cheers.
Judging others as individuals and acknowledging cultural norms of a group are mutually exclusive. Even more, I think treating the ones I'm referring to as individuals has caused me more harm than good as so many use any interaction as a way to begin the boundary violation. I have been in projects where my colleague introduced me to a friend who is an ex felon, attempted several times to get me to date him yet held a grudge when I refused. Or saying hello to all employees led to one particular one commenting on my breasts when we were alone, ad nauseum.
Sadbuttrue

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#249 Jul 14, 2013
BLACK MYSTERY wrote:
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How many cops harass women, rape women and falsely detain a husband while forcibly raping his wife.
Yes, thugs come in all sizes too
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MACEO

I think SBT rips a 2nd hole in your ARSE everytime which is why you get angry.

It reminds of the reality of BW/BM relationships and how many Black women are not dealing with Black males these days.

I also mentor and use your remarks to see how Older Black males see Black women.You like to "HARASS AND TALK BS TO YOUNGER BLACK WOMEN when you should be that example not SOMEONE THEY WANT TO AVOID!

Right now; Black men point to NO GOOD BLACK MEN LIKE YOU AND YOUR BEHAVIORS AS TO WHY THEIR RUNNING!

I guess you know it which is why you vent and harass young Black women online! Most of it is because of your own GUILT for doing for White folks and not Black folks including family members which is FOOLISH

As I said YOUR A POOR EXAMPLE OF A MIDDLE AGED BLACK MAN THAT WASTED TIME CHASING WHITE WOMEN ONLY TO END UP WITH NOTHING AND YOUR ALONE

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#250 Jul 14, 2013
Masud_S_Hoghughi__ wrote:
<quoted text>....well if you're a BW and BM want yo booty, then give it up ffs.......
....no wonder blak males r chasing white poontang with c**nts like u around playing hard to get........
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I don't understand your logic - because I'm black, I have to date any black guy who shows interest?

That is the mentality of a rapist. That's really scary.

You are not threatening me for black men dating out. I encourage anyone to find love wherever. I just wish to stop getting harassed.

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#251 Jul 14, 2013
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Oh, so yours are NOT extreme cases, but everyone else's examples are made up?
You think it's extreme, because you don't really know any better. It's why I say you sound underexposed and inexperienced. The 6 o'clock news is not made up, nor is it extreme. They have stories all the time about what people do, and many of these are white men. From personal experience I know (and more than confident that you know) that white guys will use, abuse, talk about you, and call you a slut to your face, then laugh. I've SEEN it. I know of an anarchist (white guy) who exposed himself to an FBI agent while she was having lunch. Pretending that it's only black males means you are lying to yourself and are in for a rude awakening. Either that or you're full of moose khaka.
You contradict yourself. First you say my examples are extreme. Then you said that I only think they are extreme (which I said they are not) because I am inexperienced and underexposed. Learn logic.

Also, are you saying that the more experienced and exposed I am to BM, the more outlandish experiences I will have which will make someone grabbing themselves at work, a colleague of an ex convict asking me out on his behalf and both getting angry and glaring daily when rejected and getting yelled at everyday NOT extreme in comparison?
Hmm

Tulsa, OK

#252 Jul 14, 2013
You need to do what everyone else does. Start recording the harassment and upload it to youtube, promote it for exposure. If you're able to get enough hits; your company will have no choice, but to deal with the problem; they will not want the publicity or be known as tolerant of sexual harassment. And such behavior should be PUBLICLY shamed and embarrassed. Social backlashing is very influential in controlling the masses.

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#253 Jul 15, 2013
Masud_S_Hoghughi__ wrote:
<quoted text>it has been noted that the OP is very similar to u......in fact it may b u.......although she did say that she loves blak afrikan and carribbean males - its only AA males she doesn't like.......
I never said I did not like anyone. I said in general US BM are not my type. I also find it a huge compliment for others to believe that my intellect and clarity is on par with Spotted Girl's.

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#254 Jul 15, 2013
Hmm wrote:
You need to do what everyone else does. Start recording the harassment and upload it to youtube, promote it for exposure. If you're able to get enough hits; your company will have no choice, but to deal with the problem; they will not want the publicity or be known as tolerant of sexual harassment. And such behavior should be PUBLICLY shamed and embarrassed. Social backlashing is very influential in controlling the masses.
Interesting! Do you think enough people will care about how BM treat women?
Sadbuttrue

Silver Spring, MD

#257 Jul 15, 2013
TimeforHonesty-Kip-Massoud Houghy-MACEO wrote:
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You contradict yourself. First you say my examples are extreme. Then you said that I only think they are extreme (which I said they are not) because I am inexperienced and underexposed. Learn logic.
Also, are you saying that the more experienced and exposed I am to BM, the more outlandish experiences I will have which will make someone grabbing themselves at work, a colleague of an ex convict asking me out on his behalf and both getting angry and glaring daily when rejected and getting yelled at everyday NOT extreme in comparison?
MACEO

I think SBT rips a 2nd hole in your ARSE everytime which is why you get angry.

It reminds of the reality of BW/BM relationships and how many Black women are not dealing with Black males these days.

I also mentor and use your remarks to see how Older Black males see Black women.You like to "HARASS AND TALK BS TO YOUNGER BLACK WOMEN when you should be that example not SOMEONE THEY WANT TO AVOID!

Right now; Black men point to NO GOOD BLACK MEN LIKE YOU AND YOUR BEHAVIORS AS TO WHY THEIR RUNNING!

I guess you know it which is why you vent and harass young Black women online! Most of it is because of your own GUILT for doing for White folks and not Black folks including family members which is FOOLISH

As I said YOUR A POOR EXAMPLE OF A MIDDLE AGED BLACK MAN THAT WASTED TIME CHASING WHITE WOMEN ONLY TO END UP WITH NOTHING AND YOUR ALONE!!!!!!!!!!

BYE BYE GO DIE!
Hmm

Tulsa, OK

#259 Jul 15, 2013
TimeforHonesty wrote:
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Interesting! Do you think enough people will care about how BM treat women?
People don't like others infringing on the rights of other people in an open society because it's a threat to a deemed civilized nation. There would be a backlash if enough pressure is applied on any form of harassment.
Sadbuttrue

Silver Spring, MD

#260 Jul 15, 2013
TimeforHonesty wrote:
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Interesting! Do you think enough people will care about how BM treat women?
MACEO

I know you don't care because their not your Poor Fat Trailer Trash!

Black men kill more of their own then what any White man has done!

FOOLS!
Sadbuttrue

Silver Spring, MD

#261 Jul 15, 2013
TimeforHonesty---KIP---MACEO wrote:
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You contradict yourself. First you say my examples are extreme. Then you said that I only think they are extreme (which I said they are not) because I am inexperienced and underexposed. Learn logic.
Also, are you saying that the more experienced and exposed I am to BM, the more outlandish experiences I will have which will make someone grabbing themselves at work, a colleague of an ex convict asking me out on his behalf and both getting angry and glaring daily when rejected and getting yelled at everyday NOT extreme in comparison?
MACEO

FIX YOUR LIFE FOOL!

BLACK MEN HAVE MENTALITY IS WARPED LIKE YOU!

YOU DO FOR RACIST WHITE FACE AND NOT YOUR OWN!

YOUR WIPING YOURSELF OFF THIS EARTH WITH YOUR DEMENTED BEHAVIORS!

YOUR A FOOL!

“Take the kinks out ya mind”

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and not your hair

#262 Jul 15, 2013
Sadbuttrue wrote:
<quoted text>MACEO
I know you don't care because their not your Poor Fat Trailer Trash!
Black men kill more of their own then what any White man has done!
FOOLS!
Prove it!!!!!!
Sadbuttrue

Silver Spring, MD

#263 Jul 15, 2013
TimeforHonesty wrote:
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I don't understand your logic - because I'm black, I have to date any black guy who shows interest?
That is the mentality of a rapist. That's really scary.
You are not threatening me for black men dating out. I encourage anyone to find love wherever. I just wish to stop getting harassed.
MACEO

I think SBT rips a 2nd hole in your ARSE everytime which is why you get angry.

It reminds of the reality of BW/BM relationships and how many Black women are not dealing with Black males these days.

I also mentor and use your remarks to see how Older Black males see Black women.You like to "HARASS AND TALK BS TO YOUNGER BLACK WOMEN when you should be that example not SOMEONE THEY WANT TO AVOID!

Right now; Black men point to NO GOOD BLACK MEN LIKE YOU AND YOUR BEHAVIORS AS TO WHY THEIR RUNNING!

I guess you know it which is why you vent and harass young Black women online! Most of it is because of your own GUILT for doing for White folks and not Black folks including family members which is FOOLISH

As I said YOUR A POOR EXAMPLE OF A MIDDLE AGED BLACK MAN THAT WASTED TIME CHASING WHITE WOMEN ONLY TO END UP WITH NOTHING AND YOUR ALONE!!!!!!!!!!

BYE BYE GO DIE!

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#264 Jul 15, 2013
Hmm wrote:
<quoted text>People don't like others infringing on the rights of other people in an open society because it's a threat to a deemed civilized nation. There would be a backlash if enough pressure is applied on any form of harassment.
I love it! The issues fir others hesitancy to get involve include the fear of being branded a racist, thinking the harassment is "a black thing," and not knowing the appropriate way to respond. Any ideas on how to combat these potential problems? It is definitely a great idea in the workplace. What about places outside of work?
Hmm

Tulsa, OK

#265 Jul 15, 2013
TimeforHonesty wrote:
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I love it! The issues fir others hesitancy to get involve include the fear of being branded a racist, thinking the harassment is "a black thing," and not knowing the appropriate way to respond. Any ideas on how to combat these potential problems? It is definitely a great idea in the workplace. What about places outside of work?
I think we should stop using the race card...by labeling it "Black men" this and that...makes some shy away for fear of being deem a racist in a growing liberal society. I think we need to call it for what it is "harassment"..and we need evidences/proof..hence why we need to start recording these incidents in the workplace and outside of work. Just the recordings alone may encourage many to change this behavior..one in which has been promoted in the male culture..by spreading the idea that "nice guys finish last".."that women love thugs or bad boys"...or "women love aggressive men"..... So we will have men trying to "up one on other men by being even more "forceful" than the next....
Thus creating a very hostile environment for women
Sadbuttrue

Silver Spring, MD

#266 Jul 15, 2013
Hmm--time for lies-MACEO wrote:
<quoted text>I think we should stop using the race card...by labeling it "Black men" this and that...makes some shy away for fear of being deem a racist in a growing liberal society. I think we need to call it for what it is "harassment"..and we need evidences/proof..hence why we need to start recording these incidents in the workplace and outside of work. Just the recordings alone may encourage many to change this behavior..one in which has been promoted in the male culture..by spreading the idea that "nice guys finish last".."that women love thugs or bad boys"...or "women love aggressive men"..... So we will have men trying to "up one on other men by being even more "forceful" than the next....
Thus creating a very hostile environment for women
MACEO

I call it how I see it

YOUR A WASTE MACEO !

Its not the IR thing as much as you hate your own race and verbally destroy young women who just want love and support and they know their not going to get it from Sorry Arse Black men like yourself!

Your too selfish, self centered and Arrogant even to show your White wife real love! I don't blame her for divorcing you!

That' all ties into the IRRESPONSIBLE, SELFISH, SELF CENTERED BLACK MEN WHO DON'T DO A DAMN THING FOR ANYBODY EXCEPT WHO HE CAN PREY ON SIMILAR TO YOURSELF!

Your 60 years old so you don't have much time left!

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