Black populations larger than Black A...
wila

United States

#1678 Feb 10, 2013
ashanti king wrote:
<quoted text>
Lots of Nigerians hang with aas. Ghanaians too. Yeah more Liberians hang with aas because they think they are Americans, they try too hard to be Americans. While most Nigerians and Ghanaians are comfortable being Africans.
You are right about the liberians, when it comes to ghanians and nigerians, most dont mingle with AAs like caribbeans do when it comes to going to each others churches and etc but you are right that ghanians and Nigerians are comfortable being africans and dont try to be something else.
ashanti king

Fairfax, VA

#1679 Feb 10, 2013
Azariah wrote:
<quoted text>It is the same for Africans when making comments about Black Americans. You as an outsider make comments about Black Americans that you should not make. We can make them towards each other but it is not ok for outsiders.
So is okay for aas to make those comments toward Africans, but not okay for africans.
Jak

Cordova, TN

#1680 Feb 10, 2013
Dance for a treat.Just continue to speak the white men's language we have taught you. And keep on belieiving that you would d be anything at all if it wasn't for us. If a whhite man had never touched the soil of Africa. You would still be parading around a fire grunting and moaning, thiking that you had accopmlished someting. NO evolvement. Yuo would have NOT moved forward AT ALL!!!@
Bigsmoke

Wakefield, UK

#1681 Feb 10, 2013
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
<quoted text>
You're clearly an idiot.
I'm not concerned with every single one of the 7 billion people on this planet, especially if nothing they do has anything to do with Black people.
<quoted text>
No it doesn't.
<quoted text>
Why aren't you in India?
<quoted text>
What country is that????
HAHAHA...
Like I said, you're clearly an idiot. LOL..
<quoted text>
That's all every single person on earth does, fool.
You're clearly an idiot.
You sure do have a stone age mind.

Why the fcuk are you asking me why aren't I in India? LMFAO!

''You're clearly an idiot.''
Bigsmoke

Wakefield, UK

#1682 Feb 10, 2013
attai1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sir,
there is a big difference here : "Antillais" and people from La Réunion have got French citizenship since 1946 and so are far more integrated in the society and for a long time. Harlem Désir is one of them and the 1st Black métis to become leader (1st secretary) of the Socialist party, the present ruling party.
Many have found jobs in the civil service and big utilities like the Post office, hospitals, wardens, policemen etc. Also in entertainment - see all kind of groups and a very famous singer and poet like late Henri Salvador, comedians - and in tourism/restaurants.
So there is not a big gang sub-culture among them : the rate of unemployment is low for them compared to other categories like Beurs.
Mrs Taubira, the French minister of Justice is from French Guyana. In the past 30 years, we nearly always had at least one member of the government coming from Antilles (French Caribbeans) or La Réunion.
They generally don't mingle with other Blacks and this is one cause of the slow progress of Afro French as a united group in spite of the efforts of C.R.A.N.
a whiteboi
I see.

I know a girl from Paris her background is from the French Antilles & Jamaica and I noticed almost all her friends were also of that background. So from that and what you said it seems they don't really mingle with other blacks (French Africa). LOL when I explained to her my background she didn't even know what countries they were but I just assume she's just ignorant.

Over here is different if you see a crowd of black youths more time they're going to be a mix of west African, Caribbean, south American and east African descent.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#1683 Feb 10, 2013
Bigsmoke wrote:
<quoted text>
You sure do have a stone age mind.
Why the fcuk are you asking me why aren't I in India? LMFAO!
''You're clearly an idiot.''
Why are you asking me why Indian Americans aren't in India?

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1684 Feb 10, 2013
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
for example. i never see africans in aa churches, clubs, or playing ball with aa, or casually hanging out. though aa, caribbeans, and afro-latinos hang in these social circles fairly regularly.
for example there are no caribbean churches, or churches that cater to just the caribbean community, but there are african churches. even though africans are much smaller than the caribbean population in my area. the isolation stands out.
It's because you're slave descendants and the Africans are not.
The Africans probably find you shallow and linear.
Also Africans have their own languages that they want to speak at social and church gatherings.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1685 Feb 10, 2013
wila wrote:
I have noticed, greeks, africans, russians, asians, haitians have establish their own churches in Americain and prefer to pray their own way and with their own.
My mom is aa/cameroon and she mostly went to cameroon churches, my fiance is nigerian and only goes to nigerian churches
I get invited to Nigerian churches in London, I'm not Nigerian.
wila

Liverpool, NY

#1686 Feb 11, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
<quoted text>
I get invited to Nigerian churches in London, I'm not Nigerian.
Oh, thats good, in england caribbeans and africans get along with each other

Your jamaican right?

Level 8

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#1688 Feb 11, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
<quoted text>
It's because you're slave descendants and the Africans are not.
The Africans probably find you shallow and linear.
Also Africans have their own languages that they want to speak at social and church gatherings.
i don't think i'm missing out on anything by not sharing the same social circles with africans. i just find their level of separation, compared to other diaspora groups interesting.

slave descendant probably factors in (people like to find a reason to look down on another group to make themsevles feel better), and coming from an environment where tribe is race, i'm sure has a lot to do with it as well.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Level 8

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#1689 Feb 11, 2013
Bigsmoke wrote:
<quoted text>
You're just as tribal as them along with most people in your tribe and humanity.
Truth be told, I and ''attai1'' are probably the only non tribal people in this thread if not entire forum.
I guess a lot will depend on what you mean by "tribal."

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Level 8

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#1690 Feb 11, 2013
attai1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sir,
there is a big difference here : "Antillais" and people from La Réunion have got French citizenship since 1946 and so are far more integrated in the society and for a long time. Harlem Désir is one of them and the 1st Black métis to become leader (1st secretary) of the Socialist party, the present ruling party.
Many have found jobs in the civil service and big utilities like the Post office, hospitals, wardens, policemen etc. Also in entertainment - see all kind of groups and a very famous singer and poet like late Henri Salvador, comedians - and in tourism/restaurants.
So there is not a big gang sub-culture among them : the rate of unemployment is low for them compared to other categories like Beurs.
Mrs Taubira, the French minister of Justice is from French Guyana. In the past 30 years, we nearly always had at least one member of the government coming from Antilles (French Caribbeans) or La Réunion.
They generally don't mingle with other Blacks and this is one cause of the slow progress of Afro French as a united group in spite of the efforts of C.R.A.N.
a whiteboi
You mention Harlem Desir. I remember him. Well not personally. But I remember that when I visited your country in ther late 1980s he was president of an antiracist group called SOS--the group with the slogan "Touche pas a mon copain" (or something like that). While I was in Paris, I was interviewing members of SOS (among others) for an article that I was writing regarding the situation in France. But Harlem was in the USA. Before I departed the premises of SOS, a member came to say that they'd just gotten a telephone call from Harlem Desir. And he was stunned that in the 1980s almost every American neighborhood he saw was still divided into Black, white, Hispanic and other areas--and that the white areas even then were generally more prosperous economically.
"How can this be, Savant" asked one person. "How is it possible over 20 years after your Civil Rights Movement?" I suggested that decades and centuries of racial caste, segregation couldn't couldn't simply disappear because of a Movment and laws passed in the previous generation.
Interestingly ehough, their surprise also surprised me. Or rather I was taken with the fact that what surprised them was OLD NEWS to me since I'd grown up in the USA. Compared to what our parents suffered before the triumph of the Movement, it seemed that significant change certainly happened, but I hardly expected DE FACTO (as oppose to DE JURE) segregation and discrimination would simply disappear.
But what has become of Harlem Desir? Is he still active in the Socialist Party of France? I understand that SOS dissolved quite some time ago. What are former SOS activists doing now?

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Level 8

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#1691 Feb 11, 2013
attai1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sir,
there is a big difference here : "Antillais" and people from La Réunion have got French citizenship since 1946 and so are far more integrated in the society and for a long time. Harlem Désir is one of them and the 1st Black métis to become leader (1st secretary) of the Socialist party, the present ruling party.
Many have found jobs in the civil service and big utilities like the Post office, hospitals, wardens, policemen etc. Also in entertainment - see all kind of groups and a very famous singer and poet like late Henri Salvador, comedians - and in tourism/restaurants.
So there is not a big gang sub-culture among them : the rate of unemployment is low for them compared to other categories like Beurs.
Mrs Taubira, the French minister of Justice is from French Guyana. In the past 30 years, we nearly always had at least one member of the government coming from Antilles (French Caribbeans) or La Réunion.
They generally don't mingle with other Blacks and this is one cause of the slow progress of Afro French as a united group in spite of the efforts of C.R.A.N.
a whiteboi
I got the impression while there that there were certain tensions or at least social distance between Black people from Francophone Africa and Black people from the Francophone Caribbean aress. I heard members of both groups talk about the problem of racism (and the lunacy of Le Pen). But there didn't appear to be much solidarity between them.
I also noticed that the few African-Americans I met in Paris, when they did connect socially with other Black peoples, seemed to bond with Africans more so that the "Antillais."
Lola

Nantes, France

#1692 Feb 11, 2013
ashanti king wrote:
<quoted text>
True, of course there are some Africans who are hard to deal with. I have met many myself. There are some that are always angry like the world owe them something. On average Africans are more friendlier
Some Africans can be so rude especially Nigerians - they are the rudest, loudest and most arrogant Africans but they are more friendly then black Americans.

Level 8

Since: Oct 09

Paris France

#1693 Feb 11, 2013
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>
You mention Harlem Desir. I remember him. Well not personally. But I remember that when I visited your country in ther late 1980s he was president of an antiracist group called SOS--the group with the slogan "Touche pas a mon copain" (or something like that). While I was in Paris, I was interviewing members of SOS (among others) for an article that I was writing regarding the situation in France. But Harlem was in the USA. Before I departed the premises of SOS, a member came to say that they'd just gotten a telephone call from Harlem Desir. And he was stunned that in the 1980s almost every American neighborhood he saw was still divided into Black, white, Hispanic and other areas--and that the white areas even then were generally more prosperous economically.
"How can this be, Savant" asked one person. "How is it possible over 20 years after your Civil Rights Movement?" I suggested that decades and centuries of racial caste, segregation couldn't couldn't simply disappear because of a Movment and laws passed in the previous generation.
Interestingly ehough, their surprise also surprised me. Or rather I was taken with the fact that what surprised them was OLD NEWS to me since I'd grown up in the USA. Compared to what our parents suffered before the triumph of the Movement, it seemed that significant change certainly happened, but I hardly expected DE FACTO (as oppose to DE JURE) segregation and discrimination would simply disappear.
But what has become of Harlem Desir? Is he still active in the Socialist Party of France? I understand that SOS dissolved quite some time ago. What are former SOS activists doing now?
Sir,

Harlem Désir has made quite a political career !
He was elected in 2012 as chairman of the Parti socialiste ...i.e. the president's party which has the majority in Parliament.

SOS Racisme is still there ; in 2012 they've picked up a white girl (assez jolie) as president, the 1st woman for this role, Cindy Leoni.
Carol and SBT will fume again :-)

http://www.sos-racisme.org

a whiteboi
Azariah

South San Francisco, CA

#1694 Feb 11, 2013
Lola wrote:
<quoted text>Some Africans can be so rude especially Nigerians - they are the rudest, loudest and most arrogant Africans but they are more friendly then black Americans.
How would you know all the way from France? Are going off what you read on the Internet or stereotypes?
Lola

Nantes, France

#1695 Feb 11, 2013
Azariah wrote:
<quoted text>
How would you know all the way from France? Are going off what you read on the Internet or stereotypes?
You do know that people can travel right?
Azariah

South San Francisco, CA

#1696 Feb 11, 2013
Lola wrote:
<quoted text>You do know that people can travel right?
So you judge black Americans based on traveling but you have never lived around them?
Lola

Nantes, France

#1697 Feb 11, 2013
Azariah wrote:
<quoted text>
So you judge black Americans based on traveling but you have never lived around them?
I've been around them which is how I know that they are not so friendly.
Bigsmoke

Wakefield, UK

#1698 Feb 11, 2013
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you asking me why Indian Americans aren't in India?
*sigh*

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