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#543 Jan 28, 2013
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
so the more positive images you get in that window, the better it's gonna be for you.
and this is how the aa community with their massive impact on popular culture, benefits all of us.
Why are you posting bull sh!t?
The image of AA women is globally popular and positive except for a few porn stars and objectification in rap videos.
The world loved Whitney, even after her descent into drugs hell.

But the AA male, represents crime, gangs, drive by shootings, jeans worn halfway down your legs, Aids/HIV and a desperate desire for quick easy money.

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#544 Jan 28, 2013
^^^^ AND PRISON MALE RAPE ^^^^^

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#545 Jan 28, 2013
BigsmokE8 wrote:
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The British also abolished the ''Atlantic Slave Trade'' in 1807 enforcing their dominance of the seas on other states to do so also, with the USA following a year later (1808) then lastly Brazil/Portugal in 1888.
The British also abolished slavery in the colonies it established in Africa while also trying to end the Islamic Slave Trade. They managed to drive it underground which it remains today.
Every body knows that DjanJo ended slavery I seen the movie ..lol

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#546 Jan 28, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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Why are you posting bull sh!t?
The image of AA women is globally popular and positive except for a few porn stars and objectification in rap videos.
The world loved Whitney, even after her descent into drugs hell.
But the AA male, represents crime, gangs, drive by shootings, jeans worn halfway down your legs, Aids/HIV and a desperate desire for quick easy money.
can i just assume you a troll shalimarr? the vast majority of positive black male images that represenet 'black excellence' comes outta the aa community. aam are the most copied people in the world and are honored around the world for their contribution to popular culture:

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#547 Jan 28, 2013
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
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can i just assume you a troll shalimarr? the vast majority of positive black male images that represenet 'black excellence' comes outta the aa community. aam are the most copied people in the world and are honored around the world for their contribution to popular culture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Q1rxlcx_FEsXX
There are far more of you in gangs and with aids/HIV than there are of you internationally known for music!
True or false?

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#548 Jan 28, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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There are far more of you in gangs and with aids/HIV than there are of you internationally known for music!
True or false?
False the vast majority of people with Aids/HIV are IV drugusers (mostly wht) Homosexuals(mostly wht) Black women..in the U.S....just check the stats and you will see this is true..Bm are way down there with the rest of the normal population..fck the racist media

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#549 Jan 28, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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There are far more of you in gangs and with aids/HIV than there are of you internationally known for music!
True or false?
you trying to mix issues. the point is what the world sees as representing 'black excellence'. without a doubt that image is overwhelmingly dominated by aa men and women.

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#550 Jan 28, 2013
Anti-Chaos wrote:
<quoted text>False the vast majority of people with Aids/HIV are IV drugusers (mostly wht) Homosexuals(mostly wht) Black women..in the U.S....just check the stats and you will see this is true..Bm are way down there with the rest of the normal population..fck the racist media
You logged out and gave yourself a funny for your Django comment.
Sad.
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#551 Jan 28, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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Are they linked in any way to Native Americans? Do they look very similar? Are Abyayalas helping each other throughout L. America or are they working independantly to achieve their aims?
Sure, they are all aboriginal Americans. ;-D However, Amerindian (Navajo) & Native American (Inuit) is not really the same. ;-) In Alaska & Canada there are many Native Americans, but they are not Amerindians, yet they are all basically Asians. ;-D Then again, from Alaska to Argentina, all Amerindians adopted an Amerindian ancient word for Americas, which is 'Abyayala', although Aztecs often use their old word Ixachitlan instead of more common Abyayala. Amerindians were very diverse in the past, a bit less these days. & sure, all Amerindians coordin8 their works & efforts intern8ionally, mostly through UN, & n8ionally. ;-)

“Formerly King_spade”

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Since: Jan 11

Toronto

#552 Jan 28, 2013
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
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i understand what you're saying, but my point was more bout image.
image is important, it affects how other individuals and groups receive you. for example africans represent the smallest immigrant community in the states, despite africa's large population and desire of many africans to look for opportunities elsewhere. most countries are only willing to allow small numbers of africans in, relative to other groups.
you can be sure, how non-blacks perceive africans and blacks in general, plays a major role in their immigration policies.
image isn't just some fuzzy concept. it directly impacts your social place in the world. even to the point where educated africans can find themselves having a much harder time than less educated non-blacks.
sure pop culture and media images aren't the most important thing in the world, but they are important. cuz its the window by which most of the world sees their reality. so the more positive images you get in that window, the better it's gonna be for you.
and this is how the aa community with their massive impact on popular culture, benefits all of us.
True and that is one of the reasons I don't like African or Caribbean immigrants who come to the U.S. and look down on AAs. Without the struggle of AAs and the positive contributions of AAs, black immigrants would not have got the opportunities they have.

But for the record, international image is also a double edged sword. All the positives about AAs are out there, but so are all the negatives. I've been to places in Canada where there are very few blacks and virtually no AAs but I've been stereotyped as a thug or drug dealer. Why ? Because the image these whites see of black people is the image that the American media presents of AAs bragging about gangs and drugs in music videos. Is it right ? Not at all. It is ridiculous for these whites to assume that this is how all AAs behave AND it is ridiculous for them to assume that every black person behaves like the image they see come out of the U.S. media. I also don't blame AAs for me being stereotyped because the individual AA is not responsible for what some prejudice idiot in Canada thinks. At the same time, I cannot deny that the image of AAs that is promoted worldwide is not always good and there are times where I and other blacks (including AAs) have been unfairly labelled because of it.
Unique2

Macon, GA

#553 Jan 28, 2013
the blacksmith wrote:
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To be honest with you, the only blacks I hear who seem to care about being influential ALL OVER THE WORLD are AAs and occasionally Jamaicans. Everyone else doesn't seem to care that much as a group. So I guess AAs are number 1, JAs are number 2, the rest of us are just indifferent.
Interesting.
Unique2

Macon, GA

#554 Jan 28, 2013
the blacksmith wrote:
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True and that is one of the reasons I don't like African or Caribbean immigrants who come to the U.S. and look down on AAs. Without the struggle of AAs and the positive contributions of AAs, black immigrants would not have got the opportunities they have.
But for the record, international image is also a double edged sword. All the positives about AAs are out there, but so are all the negatives. I've been to places in Canada where there are very few blacks and virtually no AAs but I've been stereotyped as a thug or drug dealer. Why ? Because the image these whites see of black people is the image that the American media presents of AAs bragging about gangs and drugs in music videos. Is it right ? Not at all. It is ridiculous for these whites to assume that this is how all AAs behave AND it is ridiculous for them to assume that every black person behaves like the image they see come out of the U.S. media. I also don't blame AAs for me being stereotyped because the individual AA is not responsible for what some prejudice idiot in Canada thinks. At the same time, I cannot deny that the image of AAs that is promoted worldwide is not always good and there are times where I and other blacks (including AAs) have been unfairly labelled because of it.
Well how do you know your being sterotyped as a "thug" or "drug dealer" in Canada had anything to do with negative images of Black Americans? I'm sure most Canadian whites are aware that there're hardly any African-Americans in Canada, so any negative image white Canadians have of blacks would have to have come from the local black population. I'm aware that crime among Jamaican-Canadians was at epidemic propotions a few years ago.

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Red Deer, Canada

#555 Jan 28, 2013
We all black in the end.

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#556 Jan 28, 2013
the blacksmith wrote:
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True and that is one of the reasons I don't like African or Caribbean immigrants who come to the U.S. and look down on AAs. Without the struggle of AAs and the positive contributions of AAs, black immigrants would not have got the opportunities they have.
But for the record, international image is also a double edged sword. All the positives about AAs are out there, but so are all the negatives. I've been to places in Canada where there are very few blacks and virtually no AAs but I've been stereotyped as a thug or drug dealer. Why ? Because the image these whites see of black people is the image that the American media presents of AAs bragging about gangs and drugs in music videos. Is it right ? Not at all. It is ridiculous for these whites to assume that this is how all AAs behave AND it is ridiculous for them to assume that every black person behaves like the image they see come out of the U.S. media. I also don't blame AAs for me being stereotyped because the individual AA is not responsible for what some prejudice idiot in Canada thinks. At the same time, I cannot deny that the image of AAs that is promoted worldwide is not always good and there are times where I and other blacks (including AAs) have been unfairly labelled because of it.
there are plenty of caribbean and somali gangbangers in canada. jamaicans use to be a huge problem for canadians back in the day. and somalis are killing each other like insects up there. asian gangs are also a problem in canada, but that's besides the point.

but this is my point. the media will typical gravitate towards the negative whenever showing blacks to the world. and white society *especially here in america* will try to diminish the image of popular aa icons, which was the case with kobe bryant and michael jackson.

this can be expected cuz we always dealing with white racism, and the constant desire to project white superiority, and black inferiority.

notice, you will never see any positive images of african in american media. and i'm sure that's the case in all white countries. in fact we're even had africans on the cover of national geograhics.

this is the tide we going against, bruh. and no other group has done more to present the black race in a different light, than aa. no other group represeents 'black excellence' around the world, like aa. and no one makes being black 'cool' and beautiful, like aa.

this is something all of us should be thanking aa for. not attacking them. aa have been the ambassadors of black excellence and black pride for nearly 100 years.

“Formerly King_spade”

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Toronto

#557 Jan 28, 2013
Unique2 wrote:
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Well how do you know your being sterotyped as a "thug" or "drug dealer" in Canada had anything to do with negative images of Black Americans? I'm sure most Canadian whites are aware that there're hardly any African-Americans in Canada, so any negative image white Canadians have of blacks would have to have come from the local black population. I'm aware that crime among Jamaican-Canadians was at epidemic propotions a few years ago.
Because the things they associate you with in these small towns are not Jamaican. For example, one time I walked down the road and some random person stopped me to ask if I rap ??? I said no. Then asked me if I had drugs....

One time I was wearing blue and someone asked me if I was a Crip...

The Jamaican Canadian crime is bad in Toronto (compared with other groups in Toronto however crime here is not high at all), but in Toronto is where I get stereotyped as a Jamaican thug. These people in these small towns no nothing at all about Jamaica other than it's a tourist destination and Bob Marley. But they do know 50 Cent and Lil Wayne because hip hop music plays on MuchMusic (Canada's TV music channel). Reggae almost never plays on Muchmusic.
Billy B

Los Angeles, CA

#558 Jan 28, 2013
I find it funny that other blacks (non-AA) are saying we aren't copied or of interest yet they are on this forum. Topix has a black British forum yet they come here. Why? To tell us that we aren't important? Sour grapes? Maybe. In Canada as well as Europe most young people especially those of color copy AA culture, especially hip hop culture. Young black men the world over didn't just start doing this at the same time, it started here in America.

http://images.google.com/imgres...

And we all know it. The music, the slang, the style, all of it.

“Formerly King_spade”

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Toronto

#559 Jan 28, 2013
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
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there are plenty of caribbean and somali gangbangers in canada. jamaicans use to be a huge problem for canadians back in the day. and somalis are killing each other like insects up there. asian gangs are also a problem in canada, but that's besides the point.
but this is my point. the media will typical gravitate towards the negative whenever showing blacks to the world. and white society *especially here in america* will try to diminish the image of popular aa icons, which was the case with kobe bryant and michael jackson.
this can be expected cuz we always dealing with white racism, and the constant desire to project white superiority, and black inferiority.
notice, you will never see any positive images of african in american media. and i'm sure that's the case in all white countries. in fact we're even had africans on the cover of national geograhics.
this is the tide we going against, bruh. and no other group has done more to present the black race in a different light, than aa. no other group represeents 'black excellence' around the world, like aa. and no one makes being black 'cool' and beautiful, like aa.
this is something all of us should be thanking aa for. not attacking them. aa have been the ambassadors of black excellence and black pride for nearly 100 years.
Of course there are Caribbean and African gangbangers in Canada. There are Caribbean and African gangbangers in the U.S. too. However, you'd be lying to me if you told me that the group who is publicized the MOST as gangbangers are Caribbean or African. Like I said, international image has a price on it. When you put your culture out there for the world to see, some will focus on the good but because we still live in a very racist world, many will focus on the bad. I don't like it but it is what it is.

I for one am not attacking AAs for their positive contributions and success. If AAs want to lead the way for international recognition of black excellence, they are welcome to it and I respect them for it.

As far as going against the tide and being seen as inferior, I'll tell you what this African guy I know told me. He said (don't remember word for word but here's the jist) "Blacks waste a lot of time in North America complaining about being seen as inferior. Now, I understand why that is and I understand that when I come into work, people think that my family lives in a hut back home. At the same time, why do we care so much ? I went, got my education, and now these same white people who think I grew up in a hut have to pay me good money for my skills. They will never invite me to their home or want me to date their daughter but I don't want to go to their home and I don't want their daughter. As long as they compensate me for my time and I make good money, I could care less if they think I put a bone through my nose when I go home."

I remember laughing but he had a good point. With that being said, the environment in the U.S. is different and because of tense race relations over there, I get why black people usually have to care about how they are perceived a lot more as a group because that could be the difference between making it and the society screwing you over.
Unique2

Macon, GA

#560 Jan 28, 2013
the blacksmith wrote:
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Because the things they associate you with in these small towns are not Jamaican. For example, one time I walked down the road and some random person stopped me to ask if I rap ??? I said no. Then asked me if I had drugs....
One time I was wearing blue and someone asked me if I was a Crip...
The Jamaican Canadian crime is bad in Toronto (compared with other groups in Toronto however crime here is not high at all), but in Toronto is where I get stereotyped as a Jamaican thug. These people in these small towns no nothing at all about Jamaica other than it's a tourist destination and Bob Marley. But they do know 50 Cent and Lil Wayne because hip hop music plays on MuchMusic (Canada's TV music channel). Reggae almost never plays on Muchmusic.
You're saying that whites in small Canadian towns have a negative impression of blacks, all I'm saying is that it had to come from somewhere. African-Americans aren't the only black group that has "thugs" and "drug dealers" in it.

“Formerly King_spade”

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Since: Jan 11

Toronto

#561 Jan 28, 2013
Billy B wrote:
I find it funny that other blacks (non-AA) are saying we aren't copied or of interest yet they are on this forum. Topix has a black British forum yet they come here. Why? To tell us that we aren't important? Sour grapes? Maybe. In Canada as well as Europe most young people especially those of color copy AA culture, especially hip hop culture. Young black men the world over didn't just start doing this at the same time, it started here in America.
http://images.google.com/imgres...
And we all know it. The music, the slang, the style, all of it.
SMH. More of the same.

Yes, Caribbeans and Africans like hip hop. So ? AAs like Chinese food. One of the biggest AA groups in hip hop called themselves the Wu Tang Clan and had martial arts clips in their songs. Do you want to be Chinese ? Do your people strive to be Chinese ? Was the reason that the movie "Rush Hour" was successful was because of an AA obsession with Chinese people and desire to be just like them? Come on.

The same Caribbean kid who listens to Rick Ross on average listens to Caribbean music. It's like some of you in this thread really don't know the difference between someone appreciating what your culture has to offer and someone trying to copy you. Americans who have your mentality make me thank God I live in Toronto where there are so many different cultures and it is completely normal here to like something from another culture that is not your own without others thinking you're trying to copy it all the time.

“Formerly King_spade”

Level 5

Since: Jan 11

Toronto

#562 Jan 28, 2013
Unique2 wrote:
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You're saying that whites in small Canadian towns have a negative impression of blacks, all I'm saying is that it had to come from somewhere. African-Americans aren't the only black group that has "thugs" and "drug dealers" in it.
Of course AAs aren't the only black group but the stereotypes I was associated with in these small white towns were not Caribbean stereotypes. Nobody thinks "gangsta rapper" or "Crip" when they think the Caribbean. They think "weed smoking criminal who speaks with a funny accent." And in Toronto, I'm stereotyped as a weed smoking criminal but in those small towns...

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