Why do blacks claim to be the true Is...
Phoenix

Houston, TX

#240 Feb 27, 2013
Chlo wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not "enamored" with Jews, I'm only using historical facts to prove my claim. You have to research and know facts to back up what you're saying, and thats what i'm doing.
How do you deal with IR relationships with your Israel equates to black theory?

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#241 Feb 27, 2013
Henry wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you get so angry? Does it scare you that much? Can you express your thoughts with anger? I am not AA, but it sure seems like it is true, proof in the Bible. No need to get excited, if it is true, so what? What changes if it is true? Does it scare you to see AA to accomplish something good in their lives? Does it scare you that you might feel less about yourself? No matter what, Christ teaches about "love". I do not see you nor the ones arguing about showing any love, just fear that AA will be over you spiritually. They will never exceed until the Christ come for them. I did not want to believe it myself for many years, now I say and feel "so what" ! I will continue my life and show the love of Christ. You should do the same. Another point -- what would you do if you met Christ in heaven and he was "black"? Would you want to go to hell just because of that? Carefully choose your words. Hatred is not from our Lord Christ Jesus, no matter what color he was on earth. It sure does make you consider that there is truth in the argument. Do not be so frightened, it will be ok. Stop trying to defend our race and let Christ into your heart so you can be with Him in heaven.
just sharing the tru Love Of Christ
just thought I'd re-post this as it seems to one that was perhaps "conveniently" overlooked...

Although I believe the so-called return of a messiah (messianism - look it up) is often a misunderstood concept, I think this poster has made a good point. What does it matter other than making a point of arguing for arguments sake?
Chlo

Lawrenceville, GA

#242 Feb 28, 2013
Phoenix wrote:
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How do you deal with IR relationships with your Israel equates to black theory?
I have no problem with interracial relationships. Knowing who I am doesn't make me hate other people.
Chlo

Lawrenceville, GA

#243 Feb 28, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>In your dreams only. AA come from West Africa and have F--all to do with Israel. Have a DNA test!
Do you have a problem with AA being the chosen? Because it seems like you do. I have given historical facts, and biblical facts to prove my claim. You have given me nothing. So why don't you do some research, get some facts and then come say something. Also why don't you take a blood test and find out how much black you have in you.
Chlo

Lawrenceville, GA

#244 Feb 28, 2013
man alive wrote:
<quoted text>just thought I'd re-post this as it seems to one that was perhaps "conveniently" overlooked...
Although I believe the so-called return of a messiah (messianism - look it up) is often a misunderstood concept, I think this poster has made a good point. What does it matter other than making a point of arguing for arguments sake?
THANK YOU for reposting that, it was refreshing and open to possibilities. I'm not discussing this to make anyone feel bad about who they are. It just that my people have been robbed of all form of identity or anything to be proud of. Thus the self destruction we often see. I'm hoping this knowledge will demonstrate to my community that we are special and give us a new positive outlook of who we truly are. And this may change the stereotypical negative behaviors, often reported by the media.
African AE

Randburg, South Africa

#245 Mar 1, 2013
Chlo wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have a problem with AA being the chosen? Because it seems like you do. I have given historical facts, and biblical facts to prove my claim. You have given me nothing. So why don't you do some research, get some facts and then come say something. Also why don't you take a blood test and find out how much black you have in you.
Jews are the chosen. The bible NEVER EVER mentions African Americans. Where in the the bible does it say African Americans are G-ds chosen. Show me!
Chlo

Ellenwood, GA

#246 Mar 1, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Jews are the chosen. The bible NEVER EVER mentions African Americans. Where in the the bible does it say African Americans are G-ds chosen. Show me!
Where in the bible does it say that "Jews" are the chosen?! The only bibles that would say that are the KJV and and newer, and that wasn't until 1700s when they put the word "Jew" any other old bible would say Israelite! Did the Jews go through that type of slavery mention in the bible Deuteronomy 28? No they did not! Did the bible mention the Holocaust? NO! But it did mention slavery and things that the AA went through! The bible wouldn't mention the word " African American" because the word is relatively new, at first we were called; colored, negros, blacks, and NOW "African Americans". But i think it is quite interesting how the word Ashkanz is in the bible and, and it refers to them as GENTILES. Majority of the jews are called. "Ashkanazi Jews", so they are gentiles.
Read the bible and learn a few things, because obviously you're clueless...
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#247 Mar 1, 2013
Chlo wrote:
<quoted text>
The bible say that we will lose our identity, so this is not what you would find in a traditional bible study of any denomination.
This link should shed a little light on the truth, with scriptures.
BIBLICAL ISRAELITES WERE BLACK, And Still Are Today!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =cHcKzzgYnMsXX&list=FLgrid MDSrOIeHTSnLyUsoQQ&index=1
AA people are WEST AFRICAN ORIGIN and have F--all to do with Israel. The people of Israel have always been Arab Caucasian and still are. Ancient Middle Eastern people looked exactly the same as they do today! No African skeletons found in large numbers in the Middle East WHERE DEM BONES? STOP LOOKING AT AFRONAZI CRAP!!!!!!!!!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#248 Mar 1, 2013
Chlo wrote:
<quoted text>
Where in the bible does it say that "Jews" are the chosen?! The only bibles that would say that are the KJV and and newer, and that wasn't until 1700s when they put the word "Jew" any other old bible would say Israelite! Did the Jews go through that type of slavery mention in the bible Deuteronomy 28? No they did not! Did the bible mention the Holocaust? NO! But it did mention slavery and things that the AA went through! The bible wouldn't mention the word " African American" because the word is relatively new, at first we were called; colored, negros, blacks, and NOW "African Americans". But i think it is quite interesting how the word Ashkanz is in the bible and, and it refers to them as GENTILES. Majority of the jews are called. "Ashkanazi Jews", so they are gentiles.
Read the bible and learn a few things, because obviously you're clueless...
G-d chose ABRAHAM THE FATHER OF THE JEWS! Jews were taken into slavery in Rome,Babylon and Egypt. The bible was written by Jews showing the history of the Jews! The Hebrews,Israelites,Jews in the bible are the same family and are genetically related. Abraham the Hebrew is related to David,Solomon going down to Jesus the Jew! Not all Ashkenazi Jews are converts! There would have have been a Jewish population amongst them because you cant convert to Judaism without a rabbi!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#249 Mar 1, 2013
African Americans try hard to prove they originate in the Middle East. Ancient skeletons found and tested show they are related to todays modern Middle Eastern peoples. There are no large amount of African skeletons found in the Middle East only Caucasian skeletons. All Middle Eastern nations are related and ARE DEFINITELY NOT RELATED TO SUB-SAHARAN AFRICANS! STOP READING AFROCENTRIC F__G CRAP!
Chlo

United States

#250 Mar 2, 2013
African AE wrote:
African Americans try hard to prove they originate in the Middle East. Ancient skeletons found and tested show they are related to todays modern Middle Eastern peoples. There are no large amount of African skeletons found in the Middle East only Caucasian skeletons. All Middle Eastern nations are related and ARE DEFINITELY NOT RELATED TO SUB-SAHARAN AFRICANS! STOP READING AFROCENTRIC F__G CRAP!
People like you TRY hard to prove that we aren't. How "ancient" are these skeletons? No, not all middle eastern nations are related. I'm not reading anything "Afrocentric" I'm just ready things straight out the bible. You're just a little blind, but that's okay one day you will open your eyes and see the truth.
Phoenix

Houston, TX

#251 Mar 2, 2013
Chlo wrote:
<quoted text>People like you TRY hard to prove that we aren't. How "ancient" are these skeletons? No, not all middle eastern nations are related. I'm not reading anything "Afrocentric" I'm just ready things straight out the bible. You're just a little blind, but that's okay one day you will open your eyes and see the truth.
Yet people like yourself are trying to convince us that we are who you say we are.
Chlo

Ellenwood, GA

#252 Mar 2, 2013
Phoenix wrote:
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Yet people like yourself are trying to convince us that we are who you say we are.
That is because we are the true Israelites, and I'm sorry your having a hard time realizing that. It is all part of the the prophecy so I understand your reason for not believing.
African AE

Johannesburg, South Africa

#253 Mar 2, 2013
Chlo wrote:
<quoted text>
That is because we are the true Israelites, and I'm sorry your having a hard time realizing that. It is all part of the the prophecy so I understand your reason for not believing.
You nothing but a bunch of low IQ wannabe Hebrews. DNA testing shows AA people come from West/Central Africa. You got f-all to do with the Middle East.
Chlo

Atlanta, GA

#254 Mar 3, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>You nothing but a bunch of low IQ wannabe Hebrews. DNA testing shows AA people come from West/Central Africa. You got f-all to do with the Middle East.
I believe the correct word is "you're". Also the sentence is grammatically incorrect "you nothing but a bunch of low IQ wannabe Hebrews". Are you saying AA as a whole have low IQs or me?
Another question are you saying I have more than one low IQ? You wouldn't say "you wannabe whites" you would say "you wannabe white". So by saying " wannabe Hebrews" is incorrect. Hmm what does this sentence structer say about you're IQ? You constantly say that AA have have West African blood but that doesn't dictate their origin. You sound really angry, as if the content of this forum causes you pain. That's unfortunate. I'm sorry, but you have not givin any hard facts, and your responses seem to only refect your opinion. I personally will no longer include or respond to you in this intellectual conversation.
Bellavon

Jonesboro, AR

#255 Mar 13, 2013
Deuteronmy 28
15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.
17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store.
18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.
19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out.
20 The Lord shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.
21 The Lord shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it.
22 The Lord shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish.
23 And thy heaven that is over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee shall be iron.
24 The Lord shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed.
25 The Lord shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.
26 And thy carcase shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall fray them away.
27 The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed.
28 The Lord shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart:
29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.
30 Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.
31 Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them.
32 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand.
33 The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway:
34 So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
35 The Lord shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head.
36 The Lord shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.
37 And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the Lord shall lead thee.
38 Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it.
39 Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them.
40 Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit.
Bellavon

Jonesboro, AR

#256 Mar 13, 2013
Deuteronmy 28 cont. Part 2

41 Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity.

42 All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume.

43 The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.

44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.

45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:

46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.

47 Because thou servedst not the Lord thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;

48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the Lord shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

49 The Lord shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:

51 And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.

52 And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the Lord thy God hath given thee.

53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the Lord thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee:

54 So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave:

55 So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates.

56 The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter,

57 And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates.

58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, The Lord Thy God;

59 Then the Lord will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.

60 Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee.

61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the Lord bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed.

62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the Lord thy God.
Bellavon

Jonesboro, AR

#257 Mar 13, 2013
Deuteronomy 28 cont. Part 3

63 And it shall come to pass, that as the Lord rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the Lord will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it.

64 And the Lord shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.

65 And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the Lord shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:

66 And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life:

67 In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.

68 And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

Deuteronomy 31:14-20

14 And the Lord said unto Moses, Behold, thy days approach that thou must die: call Joshua, and present yourselves in the tabernacle of the congregation, that I may give him a charge. And Moses and Joshua went, and presented themselves in the tabernacle of the congregation.

15 And the Lord appeared in the tabernacle in a pillar of a cloud: and the pillar of the cloud stood over the door of the tabernacle.

16 And the Lord said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them.

17 Then my anger shall be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide my face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall befall them; so that they will say in that day, Are not these evils come upon us, because our God is not among us?

18 And I will surely hide my face in that day for all the evils which they shall have wrought, in that they are turned unto other gods.

19 Now therefore write ye this song for you, and teach it the children of Israel: put it in their mouths, that this song may be a witness for me against the children of Israel.

20 For when I shall have brought them into the land which I sware unto their fathers, that floweth with milk and honey; and they shall have eaten and filled themselves, and waxen fat; then will they turn unto other gods, and serve them, and provoke me, and break my covenant.
Bellavon

Jonesboro, AR

#258 Mar 13, 2013
Job 30:

30 My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.

Song of solomon 1:

5 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.

Song of Solomon 5:

11 His head is as the most fine gold, his locks are bushy, and black as a raven.

Jeremiah 8:

21 For the hurt of the daughter of my people am I hurt; I am black; astonishment hath taken hold on me.

Jeremiah 14:

2 Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.

Lamentations 4:

8 Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.

Lamentations 5:

10 Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.

Isiah 3:

12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

13 The Lord standeth up to plead, and standeth to judge the people.

14 The Lord will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people, and the princes thereof: for ye have eaten up the vineyard; the spoil of the poor is in your houses.

15 What mean ye that ye beat my people to pieces, and grind the faces of the poor? saith the Lord God of hosts.

16 Moreover the Lord saith, Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet:

17 Therefore the Lord will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the Lord will discover their secret parts.

18 In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling ornaments about their feet, and their cauls, and their round tires like the moon,

19 The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers,

20 The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the headbands, and the tablets, and the earrings,

21 The rings, and nose jewels,

22 The changeable suits of apparel, and the mantles, and the wimples, and the crisping pins,

23 The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the vails.

24 And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty.

25 Thy men shall fall by the sword, and thy mighty in the war.

26 And her gates shall lament and mourn; and she being desolate shall sit upon the ground.

Isaiah 51:

17 Awake, awake, stand up, O Jerusalem, which hast drunk at the hand of the Lord the cup of his fury; thou hast drunken the dregs of the cup of trembling, and wrung them out.

18 There is none to guide her among all the sons whom she hath brought forth; neither is there any that taketh her by the hand of all the sons that she hath brought up.

19 These two things are come unto thee; who shall be sorry for thee? desolation, and destruction, and the famine, and the sword: by whom shall I comfort thee?

20 Thy sons have fainted, they lie at the head of all the streets, as a wild bull in a net: they are full of the fury of the Lord, the rebuke of thy God.

21 Therefore hear now this, thou afflicted, and drunken, but not with wine:

22 Thus saith thy Lord the Lord, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again:

23 But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over.
Bellavon

Jonesboro, AR

#259 Mar 13, 2013
Genesis 15:

12 And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him.

13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;

14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.

15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age.

16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.

Psalms 81:

Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.

2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;

7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;

8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

Luke 21:
17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.

19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Relevations 1:

14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

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