"There are no atheists in foxholes" -...

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#152 Oct 2, 2013
Lady Greensleeves wrote:
<quoted text>Yet another book has gone onto my "Need to Read" list.:)

Yes, I *love* books, and talking about books with people who can 'hold their own', as they say! It's interesting how the topic has jumped from the pertinence and significance of the aphorism "there are no atheists in foxholes" to reading and books.:) Out of curiosity, I'll have to look over the posts to see *where* that happened.:)

**To anyone reading this: please comment on the original topic if you have some input.:) Tangents and sidetracks are inevitably going to happen in any thread- and this is a good one- but the original topic is still relevant.**

:)
-- And it all started with listening to Alice In Chains.:)

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#153 Oct 2, 2013
Lady Greensleeves wrote:
<quoted text>How far into double digits do you guess that this thread will go? Eleven? LoL, maybe if we go back and forth a few times we can pass that. ;)

I knew it wouldn't be a popular thread because it's not about interracial dating or anything else that gets people arguing. It's really too bad, because it's an interesting topic.:)
--- Over 150 posts now. Not bad. ;)

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#155 Oct 2, 2013
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<quoted text>You do realize that its possible to write something that sounds deep but is in actuality complete nonsense, right?
-LoL-! He did not even write it himself. He simply copied it from a website and pasted it here and other places (see my reply to him above).

All of his posts are like this... and I cannot even begin to see how these posts are supposed to mesh with the topics that are being covered in this thread. They are completely incongruous.

Are we all supposed to be impressed by these canted and extraneous posts that are not even original?

-Smh-
:/

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#156 Oct 2, 2013
I am all for anything that fosters intelligent conversation and the amelioration of this thread (which has incredibly exceeded my admittedly *low* expectations); erratic and aimless copied / pasted posts do nothing.

-sigh-

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#157 Oct 2, 2013
Lady Greensleeves wrote:
I am all for anything that fosters intelligent conversation and the amelioration of this thread (which has incredibly exceeded my admittedly *low* expectations); erratic and aimless copied / pasted posts do nothing.
-sigh-
I remember reading something by Bertrand Russell who was an avowed atheist. I was trying to google it but couldn't find it. Does anybody know what I'm talking about? Basically what he said sort of resembled the "no atheists in foxholes" phenomenon. He remained and atheist to the bitter end but, if I remember what I read correctly, he had cried out for the Lord in certain situations.
lolo

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#159 Oct 14, 2013
Lady Greensleeves wrote:
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Off-topic! How have you been, Walter?:) Did I tell you that my fiance and I finally found the perfect apartment for our trip to Italy / Rome / The Vatican this May? It is a Centro Storico (old Rome) renovated and refurbished apartment, with a spacious living room, two bedrooms, two bathrooms, a loft with a futon / daybed, vaulted ceilings, a full kitchen and dining room, a large terrace overlooking ancient Rome (it is located in one of the most ancient parts of Rome) and more, and has all of the comforts of home, and then some. It is 100% 5 star rated by previous guests of the apartment and *very* luxurious--*so much* more than we need, including sleeping room, but we could not pass it over because it is just so amazing.:) It is extremely expensive, but we have the money and it will be worth it. There will be plenty of space to keep all of my shopping. ;) This will be our "base camp". I definitely want to go to Lucca while in Italy, so that will end up being a Bed and Breakfast home. We *never* stay in hotels (unless it is a *non-chain* "converted home or castle" for a night or two), so we are in keeping with our tradition.:) We always want the most genuine experience.
I expect to visit central monasteries / cloisters of my choice and be able to bring home 1st and 2nd class relics of chosen Saints, which cannot be bought; the sale of *any* blessed / holy items is strictly against Canon Law.(I have given donations to the General Postulators of certain orders and congregations in Rome to cover the cost of thecas, labor, shipping, and a bit extra as a general donation for the ones that I asked for that I have now, acquired via mail. They ask for nothing.)
I'm looking forward to this trip *so* much that I don't know where to begin!:) My reason for wanting to go to the little peasant town of Lucca is St. Gemma Galgani. One can literally visit her entire life played out there (including visiting well-kept, "museum" houses of importance to her life), as well as visiting her gorgeous final resting place beneath an altar in a small church that the cloistered Passionist nuns care for and maintain. There are also "museums" of her belongings, her clothing, her linens, stigmata blood wrappings, her journal, etc in both Lucca-- maintained by the cloistered Passionist nuns-- and with The Passionist Congregation head in Rome.
Of course, we'll see all of the staples of Rome and the Vatican as well, such as the Sistine Chapel, numerous works of art, the Coliseum, Campo di Fiori, Piazza Navona, Pantheon... most of which are within 2-5mins walking distance of our apartment.:) I would also like to see Venice.
I am *so* excited!!:D
Wow! How Awesome!!

My husband and I are planning a trip to New England for some time this summer and I was hoping that we could possibly arrange to meet, but you may be gone...

This is the first time I've been able to read on this thread in a while- I'm so busy. There are some really interesting posts. I'll get back to it in a little while- hopefully you still check on it. I have to go to class. It's raining and I just want to stay here with my husband and veg out...

ttyl
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#160 Oct 14, 2013
sONE wrote:
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This is the first time I've been able to read on this thread in a while- I'm so busy. There are some really interesting posts.
Not mine. I was banned and all my posts were deleted for posting THIS about someone's devotion to Obama: "He could toss the Grand Wizards's salad while killing a puppy and you would still defend him. What's new?"

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#161 Oct 14, 2013
sONE wrote:
<quoted text>Wow! How Awesome!!

My husband and I are planning a trip to New England for some time this summer and I was hoping that we could possibly arrange to meet, but you may be gone...

This is the first time I've been able to read on this thread in a while- I'm so busy. There are some really interesting posts. I'll get back to it in a little while- hopefully you still check on it. I have to go to class. It's raining and I just want to stay here with my husband and veg out...

ttyl
Ooh, it would be *so* much fun to meet up!:D We should really try to do that! I could point you in the directions of some great places to go... we could even go somewhere together! See if you can find the book "Weird New England" by Joseph A. Citro before you come up here.:) There are quite a few websites that list many of the strange things and places up here, too.

I know some rock, gem, and mineral (crystal) stores that you would *adore*.:)

I don't know if you saw my post congratulating you on your marriage... if not, then *congratulations* and I wish you both all of the *best*! <3 :D

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#162 Oct 14, 2013
Rubber Banned Man wrote:
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Not mine. I was banned and all my posts were deleted for posting THIS about someone's devotion to Obama: "He could toss the Grand Wizards's salad while killing a puppy and you would still defend him. What's new?"
I just looked back through the thread after reading this and see they are gone. You were banned for that sentence? What thread was it on? The way people are banned is so strange. And sometimes their posts are deleted after they're banned and sometimes not :/

I read your posts on this thread (at least the early part) and I enjoyed them. They were certainly not offensive to anyone....

“The Truth Shall Set You Free”

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#163 Oct 14, 2013
sONE wrote:
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I just looked back through the thread after reading this and see they are gone. You were banned for that sentence? What thread was it on? The way people are banned is so strange. And sometimes their posts are deleted after they're banned and sometimes not :/
I read your posts on this thread (at least the early part) and I enjoyed them. They were certainly not offensive to anyone....
Once you get by his racism he has nothing to say

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#164 Oct 14, 2013
Lady Greensleeves wrote:
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Ooh, it would be *so* much fun to meet up!:D We should really try to do that! I could point you in the directions of some great places to go... we could even go somewhere together! See if you can find the book "Weird New England" by Joseph A. Citro before you come up here.:) There are quite a few websites that list many of the strange things and places up here, too.
I know some rock, gem, and mineral (crystal) stores that you would *adore*.:)
I don't know if you saw my post congratulating you on your marriage... if not, then *congratulations* and I wish you both all of the *best*! <3 :D
I would love it! I'm free all summer and my husband has a flexible schedule for the most part. When you know how your summer is going to go, let me know. We could have so much fun! Late May through late August will be pretty open for us. We want to go to several regions of the US- but haven't decided in what order yet.

Thanks so much for the book suggestion. I'll look for it very soon. You gave me some excellent sites that I didn't bookmark and were lost when our conversation thread was deleted in the Anglo forum for no reason whatsoever.

Well, I could spend all day going to rock/mineral/crystal stores. I've started wirewrapping some crystals and cabochons as a hobby. I just bought some beautiful Luna agates- some of the top shelf old stock. I got them in the mail on Saturday.

Thank you! We are so happy. We recently moved into a 3 bedroom house (a rental). My husband had lived in a garage apartment for several years- quite roomy for a garage apartment and very reasonable to live in- but it's nice to live in an actual house together.

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#165 Oct 14, 2013
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Once you get by his racism he has nothing to say
What? Nothing on this thread has been racist that I know of. His posts are gone from this thread. I don't think he posted that on this thread- but I lost track of it when I didn't post for a couple of weeks. It was a very interesting, kind of philosophical thread last time I was on it. I mean there are entire threads that have been here for years that are nothing but racist posts- going every which way.
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#166 Oct 14, 2013
Lady Greensleeves wrote:
I've heard people use this phrase referring to both the literal sense (you're in over your head in a war zone) and the figurative sense (you're in over your head at work, in a marriage, etc). Either way, the phrase is saying that once you're completely backed up against a wall and your last desperate turn is to turn to God, then you *will* turn to God, disregarding prior beliefs.
A friend of mine served in Iraq and he believes that this phrase is true. Another friend of mine admitted to saying a prayer in desperation regarding severe problems at work.
Any thoughts?
only crazy people believe in god.

Only black fools are Christians. That's the slaves religion.
Albert B

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#167 Oct 14, 2013
I think Religious people wish atheists shared their weakness and turn to "god" when in distress just to feel better.
Rubber Banned Man

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#168 Oct 14, 2013
sONE wrote:
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What? Nothing on this thread has been racist that I know of. His posts are gone from this thread. I don't think he posted that on this thread- but I lost track of it when I didn't post for a couple of weeks. It was a very interesting, kind of philosophical thread last time I was on it. I mean there are entire threads that have been here for years that are nothing but racist posts- going every which way.
I bring to the thread what I find on it. To this thread, I brought ideas. To most of them: Mockery.
Rubber Banned Man

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#169 Oct 14, 2013
sONE wrote:
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I just looked back through the thread after reading this and see they are gone. You were banned for that sentence? What thread was it on? The way people are banned is so strange. And sometimes their posts are deleted after they're banned and sometimes not :/
I read your posts on this thread (at least the early part) and I enjoyed them. They were certainly not offensive to anyone....
Nice to see you back sONE. Congrats on joining the "Marriage Club".
Oh, and....

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#170 Oct 14, 2013
Lady Greensleeves wrote:
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What an amazing and inspiring story! Your great-grandfather was obviously a very brave and loyal man-- a hero. You must be so proud of him.:)
At one point, while the boats were arriving at the Normandy Beach, my great-grandfather fell over. He said that he couldn't make heads or tails of what was up or down, but suddenly someone grabbed him and threw him back into the boat. He looked around for his savior, but found no one. He always said, in a very matter-of-fact way, that it was his Guardian Angel who put him back into the boat.
I've always loved that story.:) Just imagine all of the stories that died with these people! What a tragedy!
At some point during the war, my great-uncle, filthy and exhausted from fighting and carrying children from a camp (one child died in his arms), went to a Red Cross Station that was set up with little cups of coffee. He went to get a cup, but they wouldn't give it to him because he didn't have a dime. They turned him away. He had no money at all. You'd think that they'd just give him a small cup, wouldn't you?? My grandmother (his sister) worked with The Red Cross throughout the war, doing whatever they needed-- until she found out about the coffee and the dime. After that, she always *hated* The Red Cross with a passion. I don't blame her.
Yes, I was proud of him. He was a great man and one of my favorite family members. He lived until I was 13 and was very healthy up until the last few months. He lived a few miles away from me all my life.

I love that story of your great-grandfather and the guardian angel! Off the subject a bit- but right now an acquaintance/friend of my father's is in the hospital in serious/critical condition at a hospital after being rear ended on his motorcycle by a car. They wanted to take him off life support right away, saying it was hopeless, but his wife said no.

He had a five hour long heart attack. They said his brain was swollen and bleeding and surgery would be needed there right away, but they didn't think his heart would take it. To make a long story short, his brain stopped bleeding and the swelling went down faster than they could believe. His neck his broken, but no spinal damage, and his heart is stronger than they could believe and they are waiting to see if he will need heart surgery- but they think maybe not. He is awake and is talking and joking around.

The "funny" thing is- all his biker friends- and there's a lot of them- would come and pray for him several times a day. Just these guys in biker outfits, long hair, beards, the entire visual, and their wives. The nurses didn't know what to think, lol!

Wow, I didn't know that the Red Cross was like that. I thought they were there to help soldiers and disaster victims from donations, not to profit on coffee. I've gotten to where I don't really trust any kind of organization anymore. I just give to people in need when I know of someone with a problem, but not to charity organizations.

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#171 Oct 14, 2013
Rubber Banned Man wrote:
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I bring to the thread what I find on it. To this thread, I brought ideas. To most of them: Mockery.
Well there's a lot to mock, lol. When I first came here I took it all pretty seriously when most of it was just dumb, a joke. I'm not good at written humor or witty shots back at people, or I might give it a try. Too bland...

I actually do have a sense of dry wit humor irl- can't do it in writing.
Rubber Banned Man

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#172 Oct 14, 2013
Albert B wrote:
<quoted text>only crazy people believe in god.
Only black fools are Christians. That's the slaves religion.
My, what a compelling, well thought out argument.
It certainly shoots down the Teleological argument...

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