Why do Afrocentrists obsess over Egyp...
trollslayer

Munster, IN

#8328 May 22, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
Afrocentric troll, the fact that you have NO clue what the greatest ancient Greek epic is shows that you don't know anything about this subject matter. The Balkans and Anatolian did too influence Greek civilization the most since those regions are 1) the HOME REGION of Greeks and 2) CONNECTED RIGHT NEXT TO GREECE, you geographically challenged troll. Greece just has to turn to the left and she is french kissing anatolia. Of course Plato, Socrates etc spoke about Balkans ad Anatolia as their majori influence its their HOME REGIONS, you troll.

PROVE IT!!!!!!

The biggest learning centers of their times were found in Anatolia, not that you would know anything about it since you aren't even educated on matter.
http://www.britishmuseum.org/about_us/departm...
Like I said the most famous ancient Greek epic took place in the BALKANS and ANATOLIA, NOT in Africa.
THAT link is mesh mash of info. that doesn't answer the question directly....name the dam epic..stop playing games.
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#8329 May 22, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
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THAT link is mesh mash of info. that doesn't answer the question directly....name the dam epic..stop playing games.
That links proves you wrong and like I said if you don't know what epic I'm talking about then you don't know anything about the civilization in question.
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#8330 May 22, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
you generalize way to much. it's illogical to generalize.
Illogical is your ridiculous claim that there is any connection between 'Igbo-Asian language' when A) Igbo is an African language that doesn't even fall in the same linguistic family branch with any Asian languages. and B) No Asian language shows to be related or connected to Igbo.
Ariel Castro is a hero

Ann Arbor, MI

#8331 May 22, 2013
Thank you black moors for whipping cracker Europe with just swords.

“DANGER!!”

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#8332 May 22, 2013
Bi-Curious Me wrote:
Every euronazi is a fan of Carleton S. Coon, a known pseudo-scientist who was debunked and ridiculed by his peers.
HAH!

I'm no "Nazi" of any sort.

"Coon" put his ideas out in 1939 and I certainly do not agree with everything about which hypothesized,

but his merely having had the forethought to assert that certain genetic groupings should be given individual classifications is not new and is certainly NOT outmoded in today's legitimate anthropological sciences.

The terms that I have borrowed have yet to be rejected by today's respected anthropologists.

Actually, ANY logically uniform code of bio-molecular anthropological classification would be given FAR more gravitas than anything as putridly 'knuckle-dragging' irrelevant as 'Black' and/or 'White'.

“Try harder :)”

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#8333 May 22, 2013
@Barros/Sinajuavi

Note: Responding to this post due to annoying word limit.
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T8J7FKICHDA2B...

^^^You wanna play games id*t, then lets play games.

D*mb@$$'side scenes of fossil records' is historically by archaeological and anthropological evidence!

And I am tired of posting the same evidence proving YOU wrong. Liar of what??? When have I denied Eurasians or U6 entering the Maghreb 30K? I ALREADY SEEN studies of U6 possibly entering the Maghreb 30k years ago. What I am attacking is the claim of the Maghreb being 'PREDOMINATELY' Eurasian, since their were Africans already living their. And also the fact that people in the Maghreb or even Levant for example didn't look like no Caucasoid, but no different from other AFRICANS. Which I have stated million time and with proof of this:
'The position of the Nazlet Khaterspecimen among prehistoric and modernAfrican and Levantine populations'
http://bigmikemanthropologyshow.webs.com/apps...

^^^There goes your precious Caucasoid looking Eurasians of the Maghreb out the window! And again why no fossil records or archaeological.



And NO after the Aterian culture came the Khormusan culture. 30,000 BP is the time period when the Khormusan Culture arose in northern Sudan and spread throughout North Africa overtaking and succeeding the Aterian Culture! Get a grip!

And d*mb@$$ please don't insult my intelligence in what the Maghreb is you id*t. I'm way smarter than you.
'Late Pleistocene-Early Holocene Maghreb - Haua Fteah, et al.'
http://www.ualberta.ca/~dlubell/Ency_Maghreb....

^^^No one is playing on words my dear id*t friend.

And you talk about me twisting things. NO STUDY CLAIMS the Maghreb was 'PREDOMINANTLY' Eurasian for 30k. All they state is that MtDNA 'U6' entered the Maghreb during that time. But look at what they now state about U6...
http://bigmikemanthropologyshow.webs.com/apps...

And again are you freaking slow??? Again Frigi states Africa L3 is the OLDEST Haplogroup found in Tunisa and then he then goes on to say the Tunisian population origins is AFRICAN due to L3 being the OLDEST in Tunisia. Thus their origins is African? You make no sense at all.

And stop projecting the 'term' black onto me when you know that I NEVER USE IT in arguments like this you id*t. And you continue to be an id*t trying to correlate paleolithic people to the Moors because you're so desperate of the Moors conquering Spain. How pathetic...

And you punked and debunked me??? LMAO!!! Don't make me laugh. You've been 'punked & debunked' on:
1. Vinca
2. Afro-Asiatic(many times)
3. heidelbergensis

Again don't make me laugh. You Euronuts can't rely on archaeological evidence, skeletal evidence, and not even paternal genetic lineages, so your only 'bastion of hope' is maternal genetic lineages. How pathetic indeed.:P

AGAIN WHERE ARE MY FOSSIL RECORDS AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL RECORDS OF THESE EURASIANS!!!!

“Try harder :)”

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#8334 May 22, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>
We're discussing the Mediterranean Maghreb, then, you lying prevaricator, the region of the Berbers.
Ooooh...Look at the little baby flip flopping now that I made him look st*pid. "We're discussing the Mediterranean Maghreb, then" LMAO! What an id*t, after I showed him there's two regions of the Maghreb. Sorry d*mbfck but the Maghreb is all of Northwest Africa.
http://www.ualberta.ca/~dlubell/Ency_Maghreb....

And stop acting like Berbers are only limited to the coastal regions of Northwest Africa you m*ron. Those of the coastal region are heavily mixed.
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/King...

Are you not aware that Berber groups are also found in the Sahara and these Berbers are found in Northeast Africa(where Berbers come from!)?
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/King...
Sinajuavi wrote:
Are you going to claim that J is African now?
^^^Look at the id*t side stepping...LMAO!!! Asking am I going to claim J.
Sinajuavi wrote:
The majority of DNA in the Berbers is Eurasian, and that has been true for 30,000 years. There's really nothing you can say about it.
Its not good to play with fire. And Berbers are NOT one monolithic group. "The majority of DNA in the Berbers is Eurasian" Okay then how do you explain this?
http://www.pearsall-family.org/PearsallDNASur...
http://britam.org/Haplogroup-E1b1b.jpg

No...Lets make it even worse for you!

Autosomal:
http://oi40.tinypic.com/ei79ra.jpg

Heck...I'll even use Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghreb_people#...

^^^So Barros where is Berbers having 'PREDOMINATE' Eurasian genes? Where?

You'll need this.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AhNni1fd6B0/UVRWlyq...

Again don't play with fire.:)
Sinajuavi wrote:
Back to Egyptsearch, fool! Go discuss the black Khmer with Clyde.
You belong here.
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.co...

This is the AA forum and at least my father is African American. And that makes me have a stay here.

Get lost.:)

“Try harder :)”

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#8335 May 22, 2013
Anyways people are whining about no one talking about achievements of interior African....

Did any of you hear about 1000 year old Swahli state African coins found in Australia?
http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/co...

I mean the people from the Swahili states were born sailors. Sailing to Arabia, India, Malaysia and as far as China to trade.

So its not impossible that Swahili sailors could have reached northern Australia as the article states.

And no Afronuts...This does not prove the Olmecs were African.-__-

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#8336 May 22, 2013
Or that the indigenous population of Austrailia were African.
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#8337 May 22, 2013
big mike M wrote:
Anyways people are whining about no one talking about achievements of interior African....
Did any of you hear about 1000 year old Swahli state African coins found in Australia?
http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/co...
I mean the people from the Swahili states were born sailors. Sailing to Arabia, India, Malaysia and as far as China to trade.
So its not impossible that Swahili sailors could have reached northern Australia as the article states.
And no Afronuts...This does not prove the Olmecs were African.-__-
Those African coins from the former Kilwa sultanate only date to around 13th to 16th century. Kilwa once was a flourishing trade port with links to India in the 13th to 16th century. There was a trade route between interior Africa and
East Africa, Arabia, India and the Spice Islands dating to 13th thru 16th century.


Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/co...

Sinajuavi
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Since: Nov 11

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#8338 May 22, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
do you honestly think i'm naive..lol. Lets put it this way, I've been lied too such much through my 'westernize education', that I am both highly cynical of most things (not all) and "gun-shy".
Unless I can some how get info. on Africa, from a African perspective, I'm not comfortable. There's a lot that is covered up about Africa and even destroyed.
On the Igbo language thing....what it has done is made me want to do my research into to find my own truth. That's what you and everybody else should do before assuming or drawing any conclusions on Africa. What I have noticed is there's a lot info. out there about the 'Igbo-Asian language' connection.
WHAT education? What lies? In the schools now they're too busy teaching to the standardized tests to have time to lie about history.

A lot covered up? Really what there was consisted of Eurocentric perspective which assumed Egypt was white, N American mounds were built by Hebrew/Greeks/Basques/whatever , Africans were uncivilized, savage, unintellectual, bestial, uncontrolled... you know, like the Irish.

You go from this to thinking EVERYWHERE was black and it was all covered up. This is some sort of obsession caused by white racism, but it's an irrational reaction to it, it is in itself a psychotic condition (just as racism is).

And so what the hell use are your ravings in here, eh?

Sinajuavi
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#8339 May 22, 2013
big mike M wrote:
Or that the indigenous population of Austrailia were African.
It doesn't even prove that Swahili sailors were in Australia, as the coins could have been traded from someone else who traded with the Swahili.

Or they could have been there, who knows? Is there more related evidence associated with these coins?

Sinajuavi
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#8340 May 22, 2013
big mike M wrote:
<quoted text>
Ooooh...Look at the little baby flip flopping now that I made him look st*pid. "We're discussing the Mediterranean Maghreb, then" LMAO! What an id*t, after I showed him there's two regions of the Maghreb. Sorry d*mbfck but the Maghreb is all of Northwest Africa.
http://www.ualberta.ca/~dlubell/Ency_Maghreb....
And stop acting like Berbers are only limited to the coastal regions of Northwest Africa you m*ron. Those of the coastal region are heavily mixed.
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/King...
Are you not aware that Berber groups are also found in the Sahara and these Berbers are found in Northeast Africa(where Berbers come from!)?
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/King...
<quoted text>
^^^Look at the id*t side stepping...LMAO!!! Asking am I going to claim J.
<quoted text>
Its not good to play with fire. And Berbers are NOT one monolithic group. "The majority of DNA in the Berbers is Eurasian" Okay then how do you explain this?
http://www.pearsall-family.org/PearsallDNASur...
http://britam.org/Haplogroup-E1b1b.jpg
No...Lets make it even worse for you!
Autosomal:
http://oi40.tinypic.com/ei79ra.jpg
Heck...I'll even use Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghreb_people#...
^^^So Barros where is Berbers having 'PREDOMINATE' Eurasian genes? Where?
You'll need this.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AhNni1fd6B0/UVRWlyq...
Again don't play with fire.:)
<quoted text>
You belong here.
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.co...
This is the AA forum and at least my father is African American. And that makes me have a stay here.
Get lost.:)
Lying asswad, you tried to add the Sahara to the “Maghreb” so you could add inappropriate evidence. I have never said that we were discussing other than Mediterranean-climate Berber areas.

You are a liar, boy. Nothing more.

Berbers are in the Sahara recently, and mostly as Tuareg. No, we're not discussing that.

Stop trying to divert from all the archaeological evidence for Eurasians in the Maghreb for 30,000 years, 10,000 years longer than Africans have been there, lying fraud.

Go discuss the black Spartans with Clyde. You're exposed here as a fraud with is it temerity or stupidity to return with the same BS after already having been run back to Egyptsearch several times.

Deal with the evidence, boy. You cannot. Begone.

Sinajuavi
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Location hidden

#8342 May 22, 2013
Ariel Castro is a hero wrote:
Thank you black moors for whipping cracker Europe with just swords.
Google “Charles Martel” and read about the Berbers (Moors) running back to Spain so fast they were dropping their possessions as they rode.

And those Moors who conquered Iberia were Berbers, not black Africans.

You have been misinformed by racist Afronazi cultists.

Sinajuavi
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#8343 May 22, 2013
big mike M wrote:
@Barros/Sinajuavi
Note: Responding to this post due to annoying word limit.
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T8J7FKICHDA2B...
^^^You wanna play games id*t, then lets play games.
D*mb@$$'side scenes of fossil records' is historically by archaeological and anthropological evidence!
And I am tired of posting the same evidence proving YOU wrong. Liar of what??? When have I denied Eurasians or U6 entering the Maghreb 30K? I ALREADY SEEN studies of U6 possibly entering the Maghreb 30k years ago. What I am attacking is the claim of the Maghreb being 'PREDOMINATELY' Eurasian, since their were Africans already living their. And also the fact that people in the Maghreb or even Levant for example didn't look like no Caucasoid, but no different from other AFRICANS. Which I have stated million time and with proof of this:
'The position of the Nazlet Khaterspecimen among prehistoric and modernAfrican and Levantine populations'
http://bigmikemanthropologyshow.webs.com/apps...
^^^There goes your precious Caucasoid looking Eurasians of the Maghreb out the window! And again why no fossil records or archaeological.
And NO after the Aterian culture came the Khormusan culture. 30,000 BP is the time period when the Khormusan Culture arose in northern Sudan and spread throughout North Africa overtaking and succeeding the Aterian Culture! Get a grip!
And d*mb@$$ please don't insult my intelligence in what the Maghreb is you id*t. I'm way smarter than you.
'Late Pleistocene-Early Holocene Maghreb - Haua Fteah, et al.'
http://www.ualberta.ca/~dlubell/Ency_Maghreb....
^^^No one is playing on words my dear id*t friend.
And you talk about me twisting things. NO STUDY CLAIMS the Maghreb was 'PREDOMINANTLY' Eurasian for 30k. All they state is that MtDNA 'U6' entered the Maghreb during that time. But look at what they now state about U6...
http://bigmikemanthropologyshow.webs.com/apps...
And again are you freaking slow??? Again Frigi states Africa L3 is the OLDEST Haplogroup found in Tunisa and then he then goes on to say the Tunisian population origins is AFRICAN due to L3 being the OLDEST in Tunisia. Thus their origins is African? You make no sense at all.
And stop projecting the 'term' black onto me when you know that I NEVER USE IT in arguments like this you id*t. And you continue to be an id*t trying to correlate paleolithic people to the Moors because you're so desperate of the Moors conquering Spain. How pathetic...
And you punked and debunked me??? LMAO!!! Don't make me laugh. You've been 'punked & debunked' on:
1. Vinca
2. Afro-Asiatic(many times)
3. heidelbergensis
Again don't make me laugh. You Euronuts can't rely on archaeological evidence, skeletal evidence, and not even paternal genetic lineages, so your only 'bastion of hope' is maternal genetic lineages. How pathetic indeed.:P
AGAIN WHERE ARE MY FOSSIL RECORDS AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL RECORDS OF THESE EURASIANS!!!!
Smartassed lying bastard. Your own article debunks you, moron. L3 came in by immigration; it is not from Tunisia you lying coward.

Maternal lineages don't matter? Tell that to your mama, jackass.

Northern Sudan, lol. Not the Maghreb.

You useless prevaricator.

The Maghreb is proven by a mountain of evidence you've chronically ignored to have been predominantly EURASIAN for 30,000 years.

Boy. You worthless schmuck. I'd love to slap that smartassed lying ignorance out of you, you racist turd. I seriously think racists like you are as low as pedophiles, and they deserve a slow painful death.

You stinking coward.
Nicky

UK

#8344 May 22, 2013
I think Egyptians should be allowed their own culture in their own country. We should not be saying their culture belongs to other peoples from other countries.
Nicky

UK

#8345 May 22, 2013
I don't really understand this african coin in australia thing, but isn't it possible someone took it to australia over the last few centuries and it got lost there?

I mean it's just as likely as africans discovered australia thousands of years ago.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#8346 May 22, 2013
Nicky wrote:
I think Egyptians should be allowed their own culture in their own country. We should not be saying their culture belongs to other peoples from other countries.
Exactly. Only self hating illiterates try to "claim" peoples they of course, and their ancestors, have and had nothing to do with.

Egyptian history belongs squarely with Egyptians and Egyptians only.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#8347 May 22, 2013
Nicky wrote:
I don't really understand this african coin in australia thing, but isn't it possible someone took it to australia over the last few centuries and it got lost there?
I mean it's just as likely as africans discovered australia thousands of years ago.
Well, it is definitely possible.

Personally, I don't really know what they would have wanted to do with Australia. Were they trading with the people there? And what would they have traded?

If they did discover Australia, did they stay and settle? Why or why not?

A bunch of questions come to mind when stuff like this gets unveiled.

It definitely makes it hard to say that African history is "of little note" when they were so intimately involved in one of the one prosperous and dynamic trading regions in the world at that time.
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#8348 May 22, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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That links proves you wrong and like I said if you don't know what epic I'm talking about then you don't know anything about the civilization in question.
"epic" .....LOL you don't know either. Those links say nothing. If you think they do pick one and lets discuss it. Right now ....there's NOT a dam thing out there that says the balkans or Anatolia taught anybody anything.

Nor have the greeks...like Plato, Aristole etc. talked about learning anything from balkans or Anatolia . They learned in Africa....and were persecuted for it cuz it was FOREIGN TO Greece.Medicine, philosophy, math, belief in one God etc. was African.

Hell...none of the so-called "greek philosophers" were revered by their fellow greeks at that time. These guys were dam near running around in secret with small followings. They were darn near outcasts.

You're NOT going to pollute the AA forum with the "greek ushered in civilization b.s." Take it to the greek forum, maybe they'll listen.

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