Why do Afrocentrists obsess over Egyp...
Shakalaka

Atlanta, GA

#6940 Apr 30, 2013
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm on here because this is my thread, and you afrocentrists keeping posting your false information on it. Why are you on here?
Why are you wasting your time on an Africa American forum with your ignorant threads about our heritage though? Not just here but all over the internet. Why? If you are "happier abroad" as one of your post infer, why do then appear to be so miserable here? Is it that you need attention so badly? Poor guy. No one finds you or your words credible. You've destroyed any trace of integrity you might have once had. Sad really. I do hope you get the help you need. Enjoy your day

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#6941 Apr 30, 2013
Shakalaka wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you wasting your time on an Africa American forum with your ignorant threads about our heritage though?
You haven't named one thing about this or any thread that is ignorant, so I'm going to have to request that you be more specific.
Shakalaka wrote:
Not just here but all over the internet. Why? If you are "happier abroad" as one of your post infer, why do then appear to be so miserable here?
I'm not "miserable", and I never said I was "happier abroad", since I've never been abroad.

I was, however, on that forum, but not to discuss travel per say, but because I was offended by the self hating comments that were being made by the AA males over there about AA females.
Shakalaka wrote:
Is it that you need attention so badly?
No. Topix, as ridiculous, idiotic, and asinine as people are on here, offers more in the way of intellectual stimulation than on previous sites I've been on. There are a lot of dolts, but I've met some cool people on here as well.

So be it.
Shakalaka wrote:
Poor guy. No one finds you or your words credible. You've destroyed any trace of integrity you might have once had. Sad really. I do hope you get the help you need. Enjoy your day
There are plenty of people on here that find my words credible as well as insightful. If you don't, then that's you.
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#6942 Apr 30, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
Here is more proof that Egyptians were not black Africans.
Here is a Nubian(black) mummy found in the valley of the kings
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SshJyvXjN4U/TfBzHwF...
Here is the Egyptian Mummy of Ramses II
http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/eos/eos_p...
I know the truth hurts.
Next!
You are a dumb Internet troll, like many of you Muktaba's here.

Ramses shows; maxillary (upper nasal) prognathism and platyrrhine. Like all other ancient Egyptians. These triat are typical African.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/07/art...

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/01cqfoMbN...

http://picturestack.com/575/200/GUUAfrianManf...

http://picturestack.com/933/761/H8fSchermafbe...

This is a selection on indignous Egyptians. And what indignous Egyptians look like from an overall point of view.

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii554/bdu...

These are Egyptians from the South, where Ramses his tomb and temples were found. The same location.

http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae70/KING1...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2230/248947460...

http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae70/KING1...

http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae70/KING1...

The ancient Egyptians were tropical adapted in limb ratio. Your people aren't. You are cold adapted in limb portions.

quote:
Moving to the opposite geographic extremity, the very small sample populations available from northern Egypt from before the 1st Dynasty(Merimda, Maadi and Wadi Digla) turn out to be significantly different from sample populations from early Palestine and Byblos, suggesting a lack of common ancestors over a long time. If there was a south-north cline of variation along the Nile Valley it did not, from this limited evidence, continue smoothly on into Palestine. The limb-length proportions of males from the Egyptian sites group them with Africans rather than with Europeans.
--Barry Kemp, Ancient Egypt Anatomy of a Civilisation

And here you have similar looking Northeast African people as those of the mummies.

http://i38.tinypic.com/wb3too.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/6itzbb.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/s3immf.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/2hwo1a0.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/263ab5w.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2zxnnex.jpg

http://wysinger.homestead.com/dy20it.jpg

You are patathic.
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#6943 Apr 30, 2013
^

Ps. Typo correction indigenous, pathetic
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#6944 Apr 30, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
Although, I do believe his son was black(mixed). Pentaware was I believe a mixed son of Ramses III.
!
We have the DNA, this kills you!

And the spread of racist white lies is going to stop.

http://picturestack.com/987/73/W07GeneralRamN...
http://picturestack.com/984/266/ZcQSchermafbe...
http://picturestack.com/984/266/kzvSchermafbe...
http://picturestack.com/984/266/sScSchermafbe...
http://picturestack.com/984/266/ff7Schermafbe...
http://picturestack.com/984/266/SnxSchermafbe...
http://picturestack.com/984/266/SnxSchermafbe...
http://picturestack.com/984/266/bq6Schermafbe...
http://picturestack.com/984/266/UySSchermafbe...
http://picturestack.com/984/266/YNkSchermafbe...
http://picturestack.com/984/266/qLPSchermafbe...
http://picturestack.com/984/266/8xESchermafbe...
http://picturestack.com/985/35/mvOcloseupEu6....
http://picturestack.com/985/36/CWnLintelfrom2...
http://picturestack.com/985/36/KmZSchermafbeq...
http://picturestack.com/985/36/F09AbarbecuesG...
http://picturestack.com/985/36/hXwSchermafbeq...
http://picturestack.com/985/36/1JkFuneraryPrv...
http://picturestack.com/985/36/Nr8NubianswitQ...
http://picturestack.com/985/36/yzm00Nd4.jpeg
http://picturestack.com/985/36/nl1HieroglyphU...
http://picturestack.com/985/645/eDcImhotephea...
http://picturestack.com/985/646/zhTModelDomes...
http://picturestack.com/985/646/3L5miniaturef...
http://picturestack.com/985/646/wlXladyresime...
http://picturestack.com/985/646/yBRnikauhorWe...
http://picturestack.com/985/646/yYNIpetIsutKa...
http://picturestack.com/985/646/dUeIpetIsutKa...
http://picturestack.com/985/646/oMBIpetIsutKa...
http://picturestack.com/985/646/SAoWhiteChape...
http://picturestack.com/985/646/ypJOsiridePil...
http://picturestack.com/986/162/eHQfoto1wTS.j...
http://picturestack.com/986/162/t7fAmarnaperi...
http://picturestack.com/986/162/QxNCoupleStat...
http://picturestack.com/986/162/gMjIpetIsutKa...
http://picturestack.com/986/162/mrkIpetIsutKa...
http://picturestack.com/986/162/MDpIpetIsutKa...
http://picturestack.com/986/163/hQFIpetIsutKa...
http://picturestack.com/986/163/B5MHuntingDog...
http://picturestack.com/986/163/VWmEgyptianMo...
http://picturestack.com/986/674/MAiBerlinNeue...
http://picturestack.com/986/675/ZvlSteleofDje...
http://picturestack.com/986/675/ckiVaseCanope...
http://picturestack.com/986/675/xNUTutankhamu...
http://picturestack.com/986/675/2JtReineAhmos...
http://picturestack.com/986/675/wxGTempleReli...
http://picturestack.com/986/675/MEsFragmentof...
http://picturestack.com/986/675/hp0EgypteAlex...
http://picturestack.com/986/675/VYGkarsakblac...
http://picturestack.com/986/675/ZPN4284223374...
http://picturestack.com/987/72/tJnHeadofaManw...
http://picturestack.com/987/72/qDLGtterkopf1M...
http://picturestack.com/987/73/h0zGroupstatug...
http://picturestack.com/987/73/NQ8MaleHeadcaA...
http://picturestack.com/987/73/D3mTombofKhae1...
http://picturestack.com/987/73/lZQDetailofone...
http://picturestack.com/987/73/qlpHeadofaSphL...
http://picturestack.com/987/73/a6eDetailofonn...
http://picturestack.com/987/73/NjGHeadofamal9...
http://picturestack.com/987/434/Bn0Head211917...
http://picturestack.com/987/434/X9UHeadofTuta...
http://picturestack.com/987/434/XDqAstatueofR...
http://picturestack.com/987/434/IC6Statuetteo...
http://picturestack.com/987/434/544Statuetteo...
http://picturestack.com/987/434/BXSFragmentar...
http://picturestack.com/987/434/i6uSoldierssa...
http://picturestack.com/987/435/LNJHieroglyph...
http://picturestack.com/987/435/OVGStatueofTj...
http://picturestack.com/988/3/0U7508456221eLp...
; )
http://picturestack.com/985/36/hE2nefertitiaW...
cont
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#6945 Apr 30, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
<quoted text>

Next!
What I post here can be seen 90%, all over Egypt.

More savings for you'll.

http://oi43.tinypic.com/dy20it.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2a5yads.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/s3immf.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/2hwo1a0.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/263ab5w.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/24pxz0z.jpg
More on how ancient Egyptians REALLY depicted themselves.
At this moment sites at Luxor are being excavated,
New discovery, Temple of Amenhotep III Luxor (Thebes)
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Narmer I (1st Dyn, 1st King of Kemet)
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Amenhotep III (Louvre)
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Queen Sitamun Daughter of Amenhotep III and Tiye, 18th Dynasty
http://tinyurl.com/bsbwcc3
Queen Sitamun Daughter of Amenhotep III and Tiye, 18th Dynasty
http://tinyurl.com/cgb9t5r
Queen Sitamun, meaning daughter of Amun, 18th Dynasty
http://tinyurl.com/c6vrh97
Quartzites statue 4th Dynasty (Metropolitan Museum NY)
http://tinyurl.com/bj9tsa3
Tomb of Menna - Hunters daughter
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
What workers and officials really looked like.
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://tinyurl.com/aqks5z2
http://tinyurl.com/d6vd644
http://tinyurl.com/b5nhzgj
http://tinyurl.com/b5nhzgj
http://tinyurl.com/c6e99k7
http://tinyurl.com/ccxh9m5
http://tinyurl.com/d38nhqj
Mentuhotep II, 11th dynasty
http://tinyurl.com/aatrj59
Mentuhotep II
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Meritaten (18th Dyn)
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Meritaten (18th Dyn)
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Ahmose I Dyn 18
Meritaten (18th Dyn)
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Head of a Sphinx possibly of Amenemhat I Dyn 12
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://tinyurl.com/aefssjr
http://tinyurl.com/a2hhd8a
Sandstone head of Mentuhotep II at British museum
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Tiye
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://tinyurl.com/col25qj
Limestone Head (4th Dynasty)
http://tinyurl.com/afq6jna
(well known) ; )
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://www.liebieghaus.de/admin/ImageServer.p... @lh&width=484&height=2 90&colorspace=rgb
http://tinyurl.com/a8wv9b8
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/191/444766181_...
http://wysinger.homestead.com/ps331030.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/eupzfb.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/212/504822054_...
http://tinyurl.com/cb9oeng
tomb of Merymery.
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6240/6340179184...
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6219/6338596794...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Tuya 18th Dynasty Louvre
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
12th Dynasty
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#6946 Apr 30, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
<quoted text>
You foolish person! Hawass is right when he states Egyptians are not black! That study is broken down here, boy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =-bg0hs3tt00XX
You people are so ignorant it's ridiculous! I enjoy the entertainment though.
Next!
Hilarious, rubbish video.

Karakhamun was a royal priest of the 25th Dynasty ASA Project Excavation
http://tinyurl.com/d4yofjy
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
High Ranking official
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Stela of Dynasty 11-18 Thebes
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Bronze figure of kneeling King Napatan period
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Sculpture of a princess
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Limestone Jar with human face mid-12th Dynasty
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Head of Amenhotep III, Dyn18, Red Granite Carlos Museum (Emory edu)
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Relief with butchers Dynasty 11 reign of Mentuhotep II
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Nebsen, a scribe in the royal treasury, and the woman is Nebet-ta, a singer in the temple of the goddess Isis. Dyn 18, early in the reign of Amenhotep III Brooklyn Museum
http://tinyurl.com/com4gq5
Senkamanisken Excavated in Nuri, nubia pyramid 3 Napatan
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Taharqo Nuri Pyramid
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Taharqo Nuri Pyramid
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
General Nakhtmin
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Head of a queen from a sphinx probably mother of Senwosret III 12th Dynasty
http://tinyurl.com/cfobamf
Wife of Nakhtmin
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://tinyurl.com/cnx5tqe
http://tinyurl.com/buks5no
http://tinyurl.com/cr4punk
http://tinyurl.com/bwehn39
http://tinyurl.com/cchq5u7
http://tinyurl.com/c44r3rw
http://tinyurl.com/bnpk6ss
http://tinyurl.com/c7e4ek6
http://tinyurl.com/d3rw2hf
http://tinyurl.com/bmba5qo
http://tinyurl.com/d58wwmt
http://tinyurl.com/bvzkuvw
http://tinyurl.com/cwked2g

^ this can go on for days and days. Like 90% of the ancient Egyptian art reflexes
this. lol

LOL @ the ancient Egyptians were not black.LOOOOOOOOL
That stupid muktaba has never set foot on African soil. Making B.S. on the internet with B.S. youtube vide(H)os . lol
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#6947 Apr 30, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
Next!
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Stela of Takhennu 25th Dynasty British Museum
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Stela of Ikhonsshedef Dyn 25
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Seated Ptah Dynasty 21-25 Metropolitan Museum
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Tomb of Meryre
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Two Princess shaking a sistrum Tomb of Kheruef (Senaa) 18 Dyn 'Steward of the Great Royal Wife, Tiye’,‘Royal Scribe’ during the reign of Amenhotep III and Amenhotep IV Neues Museum
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Tomb of Kheruef (Senaa) Dyn 18
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Akhenaten Family member Amarna
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Head of an Amarna Princess Dyn 18
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Menkaure Dyn 4
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Detail of a statue of King Amenemhat I (meaning "Amun is at the Head I")(Sehetepibre) sitting on a throne Egyptian Museum
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Wife of Psmamtik I 26th Dynasty Neueus Museum
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#6948 Apr 30, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
<quoted text>
What the hell are you idiots talking about? All I see is evidence posted by everyone but the Afrocentrics.. You people ignore all the evidence...smh
You need to look at the overwhelming evidence against Afrocentric fantasies and come to the realization you are being duped by snake oil salesmen preying on the low self-esteem of AA's.
You will not do it though....will you?
Next!
Here is evidence!

Ancient EGYPTIANS came from the South. Sahara-Sahel. Naqada is the precursor of ancient Egypt. The precursor of Naqada is the MAA-confederation.

http://tinyurl.com/cl8g5au
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dBigZkRETuM/THvkJv-...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/egypt/dispatches...
http://tinyurl.com/d8pfk6f
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2444/3922846391...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/KING9_...
http://tinyurl.com/csagh7c

quote

Comparisons of linear body proportions of Old Kingdom and non-Old Kingdom period individuals, and workers and high officials in our sample found no statistically significant differences among them. Zakrzewski (2003) also found little evidence for differences in linear body proportions of Egyptians over a wider temporal range.
unquote

The Wadi Halfa mesolithic population.(Amherst: University of Massachusetts, 1972)

quote:

http://asiapacificuniverse.com/pkm/data7_file...
The male cranium above is from Wadi al-Halfa on the Sudan-Egypt border. Dating from the Mesolithic-Holocene period, it is typical of crania in Sudan and surrounding regions from that time frame. More recent Nubian crania from the Christian period have more rounded skulls without the sloping frontal bone. However, the vertical zygomatic arch, prominent glabella, sagittal plateau, and occipital bun (less pronounced) are retained. The cranium above has pronounced facial prognathism, but moderate dental protrusion. The chin is vertical with a angular mandible and very squat ramus.(Image from David Lee Greene and George Armelagos.
unquote.

--Ph.D. M. Honegger.

l-Barga reveals one of the most important necropoleis of the early Holocene in Africa.

quote:
This site was discovered in 2001 during a survey concentrating on the zones bordering the alluvial plain. The name el-Barga is borrowed from a nearby mountain. The site is located on an elevation formed by an outcrop of bedrock (Nubian sandstone) less than 15 km from the Nile, as the crow flies. It includes a settlement area dated to circa 7500 B.C. and cemeteries belonging to two distinct periods.
The habitation is a circular hut slightly less than five metres in diameter, its maximum depth exceeding 50 centimetres. This semi-subterranean structure contained a wealth of artefacts resulting from the site’s occupation (ceramics, grinding tools, flint objects, ostrich eggshell beads, a mother-of-pearl pendant, bone tools, faunal remains, shells). The abundance of artefacts discovered suggests a marked inclination towards a sedentary lifestyle, even though certain activities (fishing and hunting) necessitate seasonal migration.
North of this habitation, about forty burials were dated to the Epipalaeolithic (7700-7000 B.C.) and generally do not contain any furnishings. On the other hand, the Neolithic cemetery (6000-5500 B.C.) located further south comprises about a hundred burials often containing artefacts (adornment, ceramics, flint or bone objects).
http://www.kerma.ch/images/stories/kema/en/si...
http://www.kerma.ch/images/stories/kema/en/si...
unquote

http://i45.tinypic.com/rw2bfk.jpg
Anonymous

Ashburn, VA

#6950 Apr 30, 2013
I already told that piece a shiit ancient egyptian that his shiit won't fly here, but he keeps hanging around.
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#6951 Apr 30, 2013
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>
One, Northeast Africa doesn't equal Egypt, two, there is no evidence that I have seen that Fulani or Tuaregs descend from or where profoundly influenced in any way by Egyptians from Ancient times.
Tuaregs share some genetic affinity with Bejas, which are most associated with Sudan than Egypt, and in the case of Fulani, they are most closely related to other West Africans, as expected.
"While some have speculated over the origin of Fulani people, current linguistic and genetic evidence suggests an indigenous West African origin among the Peul. The vast majority of genetic lineages associated with them reflect those most commonly seen in other West Africans. Their language is also of West African origin, most closely related to that of the Wolof and Serer ethnic groups. Historical and archaeological records indicate that Peul-speakers have resided in western Africa since at least the 5th century A.D. as well. Interestingly, rock paintings in the Tassili-n-Ajjer suggests the presence of proto-Fulani cultural traits in the region by at least the fourth millennium B.C. Scholars specializing in Fulani culture believe that some of the imagery depicts rituals that are still practiced by contemporary Fulani people."
http://tariganter.wordpress.com/2011/09/17/wh...
So once again, you people have no real argument.
That is because you aren't educated on the topic. Nor do you understand the ethnic groups history I have addressed. And many others from that region.

The Fulani go from Northeast to West Africa with many sub-groups. And yes, the Tuareg with many sub-groups show affinities with the Beja who also have many sub-groups. The Beja are located at modern North Sudan and the South of Egypt. Wadi Halfa/ Wadi Kubbaniya. Where the Nubians are located, who again also have many sub-groups.

By the way, Fulani remains have been found in the desert, processing the cattle tradion as is still being done. A tradion going back 10Kya.

And the Fulani oral tradion is not yours. So your commentary on local tradition is irrelevant.

The reason why western "scholars" obsessed with them is because Fulanis have different facial traits.

So "where from West-Central Africa do you descent? lol
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#6953 Apr 30, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
Although, I do believe his son was black(mixed). Pentaware was I believe a mixed son of Ramses III.
That is why Pentaware was killed also and covered in the "impure" goatskin during his mummification process.
You can see his features here. Even though the hair is lighter(mixed) than a Nubian he definitely has Nubian hair.
http://anubis4_2000.tripod.com /UnknownManE/BobBrier.jpg
"They conclude that Ramesses III was murdered during the harem conspiracy by cutting his throat. They add that the genetic relationship of unknown man E to Ramesses III, and his unusual mummification process -- including the ritually impure use of a goatskin to cover the body -- makes him a good candidate for Pentaware."
http://www.auntminnieeurope.com//index.aspx...
Next!
You are retarded, depigmented and cold adapted!

Quote:
--Analysis of Hair Samples of Mummies from Semna South, American Journal of Physical Anthropology,(1978) 49: 277-262

As Brothwell and Spearman (‘63) point out, reddish-brown ancient hair is usually the result of partial oxidation of the melanin pigment. This color was seen in a large proportion of the Semna sample, and also noted by Titlbachova and Titlbach (‘77) on Egyptian material, where it also may have resulted from the mummification process. However, the large number of blond hairs that are not associated with the cuticular damage that bleaching produces, probably points to a significantly lighter-haired population than is now present in the Nubian region. Brothwell and Spearman (’63) noted genuinely blond ancient Egyptian samples using reflectance spectrophotometry. Blondism, especially in young children, is common in many darkhaired populations (e.g., Australian, Melanesian), and is still found in some Nubian villages (J. Zabkar, personal communication).

Only one sample (M197) showed cuticular damage and irregularities definitely consistent with bleaching, although bleaching could not be ruled out in some of the blond samples.

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Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#6954 Apr 30, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
I already told that piece a shiit ancient egyptian that his shiit won't fly here, but he keeps hanging around.
It is certainly funny. Since all evidence is against them.

Variation in ancient Egyptian stature and body proportions

Sonia R. Zakrzewski*

American Journal of Physical Anthropology
Volume 121, Issue 3, pages 219–229, July 2003

Stature and the pattern of body proportions were investigated in a series of six time-successive Egyptian populations in order to investigate the biological effects on human growth of the development and intensification of agriculture, and the formation of state-level social organization. Univariate analyses of variance were performed to assess differences between the sexes and among various time periods. Significant differences were found both in stature and in raw long bone length measurements between the early semipastoral population and the later intensive agricultural population. The size differences were greater in males than in females. This disparity is suggested to be due to greater male response to poor nutrition in the earlier populations, and with the increasing development of social hierarchy, males were being provisioned preferentially over females. Little change in body shape was found through time, suggesting that all body segments were varying in size in response to environmental and social conditions. The change found in body plan is suggested to be the result of the later groups having a more tropical (Nilotic) form than the preceding populations. Am J Phys Anthropol, 2003.
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#6955 Apr 30, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
I already told that piece a shiit ancient egyptian that his shiit won't fly here, but he keeps hanging around.
AMERICAN JOURNAL OF PHYSICAL ANTHROPOLOGY 132:501–509 (2007)

Population Continuity or Population Change: Formation of the Ancient Egyptian State

Sonia R. Zakrzewski*

Department of Archaeology, University of Southampton, Highfield, Southampton SO17 1BF, UK

The origins of the ancient Egyptian state and its formation have received much attention through analysis of mortuary contexts, skeletal material, and trade. Genetic diversity was analyzed by studying craniometric variation within a series of six time-successive Egyptian populations in order to investigate the evidence for migration over the period of the development of social hierarchy and the Egyptian state. Craniometric variation, based upon 16 measurements, was assessed through principal components analysis, discriminant function analysis, and Mahalanobis D2 matrix computation. Spatial and temporal relationships were assessed by Mantel and Partial Mantel tests. The results indicate overall population continuity over the Predynastic and early Dynastic, and high levels of genetic heterogeneity, thereby suggesting that state formation occurred as a mainly indigenous process.

Conclusions

The analyses of the crania studied suggest that genetic continuity occurs over the Egyptian Predynastic and EDyn periods. The study also indicates that a relatively high level of genetic differentiation was sustained over this time period. This evidence suggests that the process of state formation itself may have been mainly an indigenous process, but that it may have occurred in association with inmigration to the Abydos region of the Nile Valley. This potential inmigration may have occurred particularly during the EDyn and OK. A possible explanation is that the Egyptian state formed through increasing control of trade and raw materials, or due to military actions, potentially associated with the use of the Nile Valley as a corridor for prolonged small scale movements through the desert environment.

Using Mahalanobis D2 values as a proxy for genetic or phenetic distance, significant genetic distances were found between time period groups and between cemetery groups. No conclusive linear relationship was found from any of the regressions of genetic distance on temporal distance (for the pooled time period groups), genetic distance on temporal distance (controlling for spatial distance), or genetic distance on spatial distance (controlling for time) for the cemetery groups. These results indicate that the biological patterning of the Egyptian population varied across time, but that no simple and consistent temporal or spatial trends could be discerned.

The Badarian is shown to be a genetically homogeneous sample, characterized by short cranial vaults and significant subnasal prognathism. The homogeneity of the Badarian mirrors previous cranial (Stoessiger, 1927; Morant, 1935; Strouhal, 1971; Gaballah et al., 1972) and post- ranial studies (Zakrzewski, 2003). Due to their placement in all sectors of Figure 2, later groups are shown as being more phenotypically heterogeneous. Furthermore, as a result of its long broad vaults and broad faces, the EDyn sample appears morphologically distinct relative to EDyn sample appears morphologically distinct relative to the other temporal groups.

Due to the relatively small sample sizes arising from the fragmentary nature of some of the crania and the lack of skeletal material that cross-cuts all social ranks within each time period, these results must remain provisional and indicative. Further research on recently excavated material, especially from the Delta area, is therefore required in order to further address the issues raised.
Jeff

Watertown, MA

#6956 Apr 30, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
You idiot...the Olmecs didn't speak a "mayan language". Olmecs were b4 Mayans. Coe really doesn't know where the Olmecs originated. In that tourist article he never explains the stone heads.You need to stop with this crap about black PPL. doing "genocide" on others.
Your PPL. are the ones who are guilty of this. And that's WHY we now have Native Amer. reservations. That's all that's left after what YOUR PPL. did to them. Learn to tell the truth boy....cause I'll be there to make sure you do.
Olmecs were not black Africans and neither were the Mayans. These were Native Americans as all scientific and historical evidence clearly has shown. No Africans in the Americas prior to Columbus era.

Y-chromosomes of Native South Americans (Roewer et al. 2013)
A total of 1,011 individuals, representing 50 tribal populations from 81 settlements, were genotyped for up to 17 short tandem repeat (STR) markers and 16 single nucleotide polymorphisms (Y-SNPs), the latter resolving phylogenetic lineages Q and C.

Furthermore, for the first time, we identified a distinct geographical cluster of Y-SNP lineages C-M217 (C3*) in South America. Such haplotypes occur at high frequency in Asia.
http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#6957 Apr 30, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
That is because you aren't educated on the topic. Nor do you understand the ethnic groups history I have addressed. And many others from that region.
The Fulani go from Northeast to West Africa with many sub-groups. And yes, the Tuareg with many sub-groups show affinities with the Beja who also have many sub-groups. The Beja are located at modern North Sudan and the South of Egypt. Wadi Halfa/ Wadi Kubbaniya. Where the Nubians are located, who again also have many sub-groups.
By the way, Fulani remains have been found in the desert, processing the cattle tradion as is still being done. A tradion going back 10Kya.
And the Fulani oral tradion is not yours. So your commentary on local tradition is irrelevant.
The reason why western "scholars" obsessed with them is because Fulanis have different facial traits.
So "where from West-Central Africa do you descent? lol
Yes I am educated on the topic, and I understand the ethic history just fine, which is why I am still right, and you still haven't proven anything I've said wrong.

West Africans have practically nothing to do with Ancient Egypt or Ancient Egyptians, as I said. Diasporans don't owe any culture, history, or heritage to that region or those people.

They both developed independently of one another. There is nothing you've said that has discredited this, and Fulani oral tradition is Fulani oral tradition, not "Kemet" oral tradition, since no Fulani speak or ever spoke any Egyptian language, nor are they related to Egyptians.

I descend from whichever region of West/Central Africa that my ancestors were taken from.
Gweilos are delusional

Wan Chai, Hong Kong

#6958 Apr 30, 2013
Well well, still having this discussion in 2013? Unbelievable. The ancient egyptians were black african. Scientifically proven! When will this whitewashing of history ever end?
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#6959 Apr 30, 2013
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes I am educated on the topic, and I understand the ethic history just fine, which is why I am still right, and you still haven't proven anything I've said wrong.
West Africans have practically nothing to do with Ancient Egypt or Ancient Egyptians, as I said. Diasporans don't owe any culture, history, or heritage to that region or those people.
They both developed independently of one another. There is nothing you've said that has discredited this, and Fulani oral tradition is Fulani oral tradition, not "Kemet" oral tradition, since no Fulani speak or ever spoke any Egyptian language, nor are they related to Egyptians.
I descend from whichever region of West/Central Africa that my ancestors were taken from.
Oh, I was under the assumption you came from Africa as a direct immigrant. But I see what you mean. "From "wherever" they were taken.lol

Pitiful for you, you think you have more knowledge on oral tradition than Fulani elders. This is laughable at best. All-in-all, you've exposed yourself on your stupidity and impostor behavior. Fulani tradion speaks of KMT. You reading a book by your baised european masters, will not cute the cake, stupid fool! Infact I doubt you are actually African American. With that funny picture in your avatar.lol

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Two famous people descent from the Tuareg, the father of Tupac Shakur was tested. And Morgan Freeman. Of course there have to be more.lol

You are an impostor, acting as a "black person" lol
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#6960 Apr 30, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
Olmecs were not black Africans and neither were the Mayans. These were Native Americans as all scientific and historical evidence clearly has shown. No Africans in the Americas prior to Columbus era.
Y-chromosomes of Native South Americans (Roewer et al. 2013)
A total of 1,011 individuals, representing 50 tribal populations from 81 settlements, were genotyped for up to 17 short tandem repeat (STR) markers and 16 single nucleotide polymorphisms (Y-SNPs), the latter resolving phylogenetic lineages Q and C.
Furthermore, for the first time, we identified a distinct geographical cluster of Y-SNP lineages C-M217 (C3*) in South America. Such haplotypes occur at high frequency in Asia.
http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...
I don't really care about this. But from what I read. This study is about South America, not about Central America.
Jeff

Watertown, MA

#6961 Apr 30, 2013
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't really care about this. But from what I read. This study is about South America, not about Central America.
Central Americans are just a Native American as South Americans. The study reconfirms what has been stated here time and again: Olmec were NATIVE AMERICANS, not Africans as some Afrocentrics like to dubiously lie about.

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