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#6008 Apr 8, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
And so it gets back to the same old obsession: pearlybottomed slave girls!!! Yes, the Afronazi inevitably bases his entire rap on that. Pearly-bottomed slave girls everywhere, giving rise to the Berbers of today, while the Afronazi pretends there WERE no Berbers before, just black Africans who were then overwhelmed with so many pearlybottomed slave girls to rape that the whole region turned Eurasian!!!
Yeah, right, that's the ticket...!
But, too bad for you Mike, the Maghrebian population has been entirely or mostly Eurasian for 30,000 years. No pearlybottomed slave girls for you!
Again this does NOT debunk anything. Whats does this post prove? You not addressing anything in my post proves you lost.

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#6009 Apr 8, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Stop telling everyone not to reply to your posts every time you're punked & debunked. How tedious. How twerpish.
LMAO! You must be really retarded. No one was punked or debunked but you and Ancient Egyptian. I am telling you guys not to reply back, because its getting tiresome...Both you losers are barely reading or addressing the MAIN points I make in my post. Both you retards keep REPEATING the same claims I already touched base on, which proves don't even care to read what I post. YOU unlike Ancient Egyptian don't even bother to back up your claims with evidence and many people know that. Even racist like Bozino saw that...

THAT IS WHY I TOLD YOU TWO LOSERS NOT TO REPLY BACK!

Yes how tedious. How twerpish. Moron...-__-

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#6010 Apr 8, 2013
Curious Me wrote:
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You can "tell" us that 'til you lose your voice, and it won't make it anymore true.
Also, NONE of the 'E-M35'Y-Hg progeny are of any Negroïd/Congoid ancestry.
NONE of the 'L3'mtDNA Hg are of Negroïd/Congoid ancestry.
http://www.genebase.com/learning/article/2
The 'U6'mtDNA Hg is merely proof that Eurasians were indeed the first to successfully and permanently settle North Africa, but 'U6' is not the only Eurasian Hg that became native to North Africa, and what is being said by Jeff, Barros, and myself is that the overwhelming genetic profile of the North African Peoples is of prehistorically ancient Eurasian progeny.
Not too many people would have a problem referring to Cameroonians as Negroïd/Congoids even though their is a VERY high percentage of 'R1b1ac4'Y-Hg in their genetic profile.
That is certainly so, as their Mitochondrial DNA profile is majority Negroïd/Congoid 'L'mtDNA Hg's.
Yet it appears to come as a shock to some, that the overwhelming majority of North Africans should be considered to be overwhelmingly Caucasian or Western Eurasian...especially those of the true Maghrib.
•••
The general population of North Africa has not changed significantly since before the Holocene Period.
http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...
"The indigenous North African ancestry may have been more common in Berber populations and appears most closely related to populations outside of Africa, but divergence between Maghrebi peoples and Near Eastern/Europeans likely precedes the Holocene (>12,000 ya)."
THAT alone dispels any speculations about European slaves having been so numerous as to have actually been able to put a noticeable dent in the genetic profile of North Africa.
•••
So much for that speculation about an imaginary population changing onslaught of European Slaves.
If THAT had actually been happening, to that degree, there never would have been a market for the BLACK SLAVES that the the Saharan Tuareg made a centuries long career of transporting up to the Maghribíya and its Maghribíyan ports.
"We also find significant signatures of sub-Saharan African ancestry that vary substantially among populations. These sub-Saharan ancestries appear to be a recent introduction into North African populations, dating to about 1,200 years ago in southern Morocco and about 750 years ago into Egypt, possibly reflecting the patterns of the trans-Saharan slave trade that occurred during this period."
Your point?

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#6013 Apr 8, 2013
big mike M wrote:
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Your point?
Well, the only logical response to THAT dim-witted comment is that the most obvious "point" here is your pointy little PIN-HEAD.

I was wanting to believe that YOU might actually be a person of 'REASON'.

::HOW VERY DISAPPOINTING::

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#6015 Apr 8, 2013
Curious Me wrote:
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Well, the only logical response to THAT dim-witted comment is that the most obvious "point" here is your pointy little PIN-HEAD.
I was wanting to believe that YOU might actually be a person of 'REASON'.
::HOW VERY DISAPPOINTING::
No the thing is I ALREADY COVERED what you and others have already been saying. You are all just repeating the SAME THINGS that I already covered in multiple post and its getting annoying! That's why I'm not taking this serious anymore.

I am done with 'REASONING'.
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#6016 Apr 8, 2013
big mike M wrote:
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Where is your EVIDENCE for this? You're just saying things off the top of your head and ignoring what I post and its getting annoying!
Berbers orgins are Y-DNA A haplpgroup since your saying Paleolithic U6 is their orgins and that is not only found in Northwest Africa but also Kenya and isolated parts of Northwest Africa.
Again...
http://tinypic.com/view.php...
http://tinypic.com/view.php...
Note that Moroccans are the Berbers with the most ‘’Eurasian’’ admixture.
Moroccans = 62% African + 38% Eurasian (20% Asian + 18% European)
41.3% Northwest African
17.9% Mediterranean
16.2% Southwest Asian
14.6% West African
05.6% East African
03.6% Caucasus
00.4% South Asian
00.1% Far East
00.1% Siberian
00.1% Northern European
00.1% Southeast Asian
Source:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv...
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/African...
Also....
Mozabite people are characterized by a very high level of North African haplogroups E1b1b1b (M81)(86%) and U6 (28%).
http://www.ephotobay.com/image/picture-8-1.pn...
What's really funny is that U6 and M1 is not grouped in as Eurasian, but just North African
Here is how the Ancient Berbers were DEPICTED by the ANCIENT EGYPTIANS!!!!
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q701/Matt...
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q701/Matt...
This is seriously getting FREAKING TIRESOME!
What I am going to have to do to drill this into your head!!???
the trolls beg for studies refuting no "euroasians" in N.Africa or the so-called Maghreb......here it is

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#6017 Apr 8, 2013
big mike M wrote:
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No the thing is I ALREADY COVERED what you and others have already been saying. You are all just repeating the SAME THINGS that I already covered in multiple post and its getting annoying! That's why I'm not taking this serious anymore.
I am done with 'REASONING'.
"REASONING" MY ÁSS!!

YOU haven't "covered" a dámned thing.

You can get "annoyed" all you want.

::YOU'RE STILL FULL OF SHÍT::

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#6018 Apr 8, 2013
Curious Me wrote:
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"REASONING" MY ÁSS!!
YOU haven't "covered" a dámned thing.
You can get "annoyed" all you want.
::YOU'RE STILL FULL OF SHÍT::
I don't care, this debate is annoying. I covered many things, but you guys ignored must them.

Paleolithic U6 has nothing to do with the Berbers origins.

/End

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#6019 Apr 8, 2013
big mike M wrote:
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Your point?
http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado ...

"The indigenous North African ancestry may have been more common in Berber populations and appears most closely related to populations outside of Africa, but divergence between Maghrebi peoples and Near Eastern/Europeans likely precedes the Holocene (>12,000 ya)."

THAT alone dispels any speculations about European slaves having been so numerous as to have actually been able to put a noticeable dent in the genetic profile of North Africa.

•••

So much for that speculation about an imaginary onslaught of European Slaves population changing the general complexion of Maghribíyan North Africans.

If THAT had actually been happening, to that degree, there never would have been a market for the BLACK SLAVES that the Saharan Tuareg made a centuries long career of transporting up to the Maghrib and its Maghribíyan ports.

"We also find significant signatures of sub-Saharan African ancestry that vary substantially among populations. These sub-Saharan ancestries appear to be a recent introduction into North African populations, dating to about 1,200 years ago in southern Morocco and about 750 years ago into Egypt, possibly reflecting the patterns of the trans-Saharan slave trade that occurred during this period."

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#6020 Apr 8, 2013
big mike M wrote:
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I don't care, this debate is annoying. I covered many things, but you guys ignored must them.
Paleolithic U6 has nothing to do with the Berbers origins.
/End
Your opinion is worthless.

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#6021 Apr 8, 2013
Curious Me wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado ...
"The indigenous North African ancestry may have been more common in Berber populations and appears most closely related to populations outside of Africa, but divergence between Maghrebi peoples and Near Eastern/Europeans likely precedes the Holocene (>12,000 ya)."
THAT alone dispels any speculations about European slaves having been so numerous as to have actually been able to put a noticeable dent in the genetic profile of North Africa.
•••
So much for that speculation about an imaginary onslaught of European Slaves population changing the general complexion of Maghribíyan North Africans.
If THAT had actually been happening, to that degree, there never would have been a market for the BLACK SLAVES that the Saharan Tuareg made a centuries long career of transporting up to the Maghrib and its Maghribíyan ports.
"We also find significant signatures of sub-Saharan African ancestry that vary substantially among populations. These sub-Saharan ancestries appear to be a recent introduction into North African populations, dating to about 1,200 years ago in southern Morocco and about 750 years ago into Egypt, possibly reflecting the patterns of the trans-Saharan slave trade that occurred during this period."
Your link doesn't even work...

*FACE/PALM*

European enslavement wasn't the only Eurasian population that put a dent in the genetic makeup. Have you forgotten the Vandals and others before that?

My go...Now do you see what I mean?

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#6022 Apr 8, 2013
Curious Me wrote:
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Your opinion is worthless.
So is yours.-__-

Who cares what you think so GTFO.

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#6024 Apr 8, 2013
I'm leaving this thread with this final post.

Berbers orgins are Y-DNA A haplpgroup since your saying Paleolithic U6 is their orgins and that is not only found in Northwest Africa but also Kenya and isolated parts of Northwest Africa.

Again...Y-DNA is majority African E.
http://tinypic.com/view.php...
http://tinypic.com/view.php...

Note that Moroccans are the Berbers with the most ‘’Eurasian’’ admixture.

Moroccans = 62% African + 38% Eurasian (20% Asian + 18% European)
41.3% Northwest African
17.9% Mediterranean
16.2% Southwest Asian
14.6% West African
05.6% East African
03.6% Caucasus
00.4% South Asian
00.1% Far East
00.1% Siberian
00.1% Northern European
00.1% Southeast Asian

Source:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv...
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/African...

Also....

Mozabite people are characterized by a very high level of North African haplogroups E1b1b1b (M81)(86%) and U6 (28%).
http://www.ephotobay.com/image/picture-8-1.pn...

What's really funny is that U6 and M1 is not grouped in as Eurasian, but just North African

Here is how the Ancient Berbers were DEPICTED by the ANCIENT EGYPTIANS.
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q701/Matt...
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q701/Matt...
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q701/Matt...
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q701/Matt...

I'm done.

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#6025 Apr 8, 2013
irkab wrote:
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You act like you care about white people's supposed obsessions, otherwise you would not have mentioned it.
This comment makes no sense.
irkab wrote:
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"Your" thread?? Narcissistic and ego centric comment.
Please explain what you are talking about.

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#6027 Apr 8, 2013
Hotlanta wrote:
A never ending battle among "experts" and "experts".
I have yet to see any transferral of ideas, and culture to Sub-Sahara. They built houses in the North out of mud and stone, but yet in Central and South Africa none of this is ever seen.While these Negroes claim kin to whoever that want to, I'd like for them to stop,and show us brilliant DOCUMENTED "inventions" that Sub-Saharan Black African has invented and produced!It's all so simple, show us all of this "progress" that Black inventions have produced for the last thousand years. The truth of the matter is, YOU CAN'T, so you invent your "history"!
I'm amused!
I'll hang around for the fun I'm expecting!
Is there a particular reason why you keep harping on Sub Saharan inventions?

What is your obsession with inventions?

Also, why do you intellectually inferior racists always so concerned about stone architecture in Africa?

Most of Africa south of the Sahara has no viable stone material with which to build. To acquire such materials would therefore require expensive importing from foreign nations, therefore, economically it would only make sense, and many times was the only available option, to build in adobe, as it is less expensive and very abundant. It is also just as suitable, and sometimes easier, to build with as stone.

So again, not that Africans lack stone architecture, but even if they didn't, what exactly are you attempting to imply? That not building in expensive and rare materials is evidence of lack of "real" achievement?

What do you think about Assyrians and Sumerians building in adobe?
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#6028 Apr 8, 2013
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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Egypt doesn't "belong" to anyone except Egyptians.
I've already informed you that I had Black Genesis. I just hadn't read it at the time, and I still haven't read it. I'm far more interested in Interior African studies.
I don't have a problem with the Saharan origin theory for Egyptians, as it actually makes sense and is corroborated by actual scholars and scientists.
However, that DNAtribes mess is nothing that anyone takes seriously except for afrocentrists. I remember having a debate on youtube with someone about it, and I challenged him to name me just three modern scholars who back the study.
To this date he hasn't presented even one, and neither has anyone else I've asked.
It's like Egyptians being Interior African in origin isn't enough for afrocentrists; they have to make them West African and Bantu as well.
All *real* genetic and anthropological studies depict AE's as being clustered with other east Africans, with Nubians being the closest cluster.
West Africans and Central and Southern Africans just don't make the cut, I'm afraid.
West Africans ie Dogon, Igbo, Yoruba, Ashante, Wolof, Sara, Fulani are all descendants of E. Africa. West AFricans can claim ancient Egypt just like Euro-Americans claim Rome & Greece & Celtics. Dr. Anthony Browder, Dr. Ashra Kwesi, Dr. Booker T Coleman are modern scholars who have taken time show the origins of ancient Egypt and their connection to the rest of Africa. Face it before Africans settled in the West they developed in the East just as the sun rises in the East and sets in the West.

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#6029 Apr 8, 2013
Heru Tut Ankh wrote:
<quoted text> West Africans ie Dogon, Igbo, Yoruba, Ashante, Wolof, Sara, Fulani are all descendants of E. Africa. West AFricans can claim ancient Egypt just like Euro-Americans claim Rome & Greece & Celtics.
West Africans didn't come from Egypt, which is why we don't cluster with Egyptians, and all those people you listed are indigenous to the region of West Africa, and would been that way since ancient times.
Heru Tut Ankh wrote:
Dr. Anthony Browder, Dr. Ashra Kwesi, Dr. Booker T Coleman are modern scholars


They're modern afrocentrists who express no interest in West African history and heritage.
Heru Tut Ankh wrote:
who have taken time show the origins of ancient Egypt and their connection to the rest of Africa.
Egyptians have no "connection" with the rest of anything. Since ancient times, Egypt has had more "connection" with the Mediterranean and the near east than Interior Africa, with the exception of Nubia.
Heru Tut Ankh wrote:
Face it before Africans settled in the West they developed in the East just as the sun rises in the East and sets in the West.
No, that's ridiculous. A great many of them "developed" in the Central and Western Sahara, not East Africa, and then moved more into West Africa when climatic changes began to take effect.

Once again, West Africans, and their development and achievements, have practically nothing to do with Egypt.
lmao

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#6032 Apr 9, 2013
Heru Tut Ankh wrote:
<quoted text> West Africans ie Dogon, Igbo, Yoruba, Ashante, Wolof, Sara, Fulani are all descendants of E. Africa. West AFricans can claim ancient Egypt just like Euro-Americans claim Rome & Greece & Celtics. Dr. Anthony Browder, Dr. Ashra Kwesi, Dr. Booker T Coleman are modern scholars who have taken time show the origins of ancient Egypt and their connection to the rest of Africa. Face it before Africans settled in the West they developed in the East just as the sun rises in the East and sets in the West.
https://skydrive.live.com/...

What do you think about this article concerning the IGBO JEWS OF NIGERIA? According to this article, it seems to back up much of what you are saying!
lmao

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#6034 Apr 9, 2013
lmao wrote:
<quoted text>
https://skydrive.live.com/...
What do you think about this article concerning the IGBO JEWS OF NIGERIA? According to this article, it seems to back up much of what you are saying!
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/01/world/africa/ni...

This is a CNN article about the Igbo Jews of Nigeria. It could be spam too? Or maybe not!
lmao

Bowie, MD

#6036 Apr 9, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
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One critic, Catherine Acholonu, attributes Jewish identification among the Igbo as a result of Christianity brought by missionaries, since most Igbo people are Christians.
"Everybody is excited to say they belong to the people of the Bible because the Bible is reigning -- it's in," says Catherine Acholonu, a prominent researcher on Igbo history and culture.
She feels that Igbo people are whitewashing their history and diminishing the value of their own culture by attempting to link their heritage to the Jews.
These Black Jews are not real jews...Just Converts.
They're trying to belong to something...instead of embracing their own culture..smh
It's all rooted in self-Hate
Now back to the Street corner wit CHA!
Next!
Now before I reply, and tell you where you should retreat to, are you white, african or so called african american, etc., because believe me, it's going to make a big difference to how I respond!

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