Why do Afrocentrists obsess over Egypt and NON-African Civilizations

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Good job deflating your own argument. Egyptsearch has no real scholar work but TOPIX FREAKING DOE??? WHAT??? Topix around the internet is known as a troll haven and is full of idiots. Topix USE to be good back in 2007-2008, but know most of the debates are ghetto race debates. You just lost all points. On Egyptsearch they ACTUALLY email scholars/anthropologist like S.O.Y Keita.
Like I said before Egyptsearch is a NEUTRAL site.
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Yes there are Afrocentrics like Clyde Winter and Mike111. But you EUrocentrics think they represent the WHOLE site.
Here some threads where Winters points gets demolished.
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb....
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb....
You guys also forget that Egyptsearch also has Eurocentrics...
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb....
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb....
Again Egyptsearh is a neutral site.:P
I'm not Eurocentric. When the hell did I go around to other continents than Europe claiming europeans had built civilizations?

I am however opposed to Afronazi attempts to do just that... steal other peoples' civilizations.

That isn't Eurocentric. You are only name-calling by saying that. It is a common Afronazi tactic. Were the Native American Olmecs Europeans? Were the Berbers?

Egyptsearch is an Afronazi site. It is the source of most of the pseudo-intellectual crap Afronazis bring into Topix.

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I'm not Eurocentric. When the hell did I go around to other continents than Europe claiming europeans had built civilizations?
I am however opposed to Afronazi attempts to do just that... steal other peoples' civilizations.
That isn't Eurocentric. You are only name-calling by saying that. It is a common Afronazi tactic. Were the Native American Olmecs Europeans? Were the Berbers?
Egyptsearch is an Afronazi site. It is the source of most of the pseudo-intellectual crap Afronazis bring into Topix.
You obvious hate ES because your boy Garigg(whatever his name is) got tore up on that site. You're a closet Eurocentric because you believe Afro-Asiatic is Eurasian, try ti Eurasianize North Africa(which is why you spam that Maghreb was Eurasian for 30k years), claim L3 is not African, claim Eurasians were in lower Egypt for 30k years and you want only Sub Sahara Africa to be indigenous African, but not North. Sexyblkwomen even said you deon't want to give Africans credit. You hate ES so much because they counter those claims by you.

You may fool Bakari, because he only focus on the interior of Africa. But it wont work on me, because I already know yours and your boy Garrig agenda.

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No you have piss poor read comprehension. DNAtribes labeled the Amarna mummies as having ancestry from southern Africa, Great lake regions and West Africa. Also I didn't say King Tut was west African, again poor reading comprehension. Sickle cells originated in West Africa. So it isn't far fetched that he couldn't have ancestry of people who carried West African genes. Ramesses III was already said to carry E1b1a and that originated in East Africa...
Not one is trying to be Egyptian. Don't reply to my post again...I'm tired of your idiocy.
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I know that...-__-
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T2000IDIIR2R1...
DNAtribes was ONLY talking about the Amarna mummies, not ALL of Ancient Egypt,
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Please don't reply to my post no more, because I have dealt with your idiocy for the longest and I have grown tired of it.
That's what I said, that you're using his sickle-cell to pretend he had W African ancestry so you can pretend to be Egyptian. You play the game like, oh I'm not the regular Afronazi, I'm not an Olmec Chinese Viking, but in fact you are. You increasingly expose that yes, it's all a front, a pretense at academic credibility.

NUBIANS. Does that word mean nothing to you? THEY are who was south of the Egyptians along the Nile, yet you try to find a source for the Egyptians EVERYWHERE in Africa EXCEPT Nubia!!!

Their genetic, morphological and cultural affinities were with NUBIA!

What you're tired of is your inability to slide your bullcrap past me.

And you're not a Hebrew.

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What a pathetic fool you are, boy..smh
You are taking a patriotic rebuttal as racism????? That idiot insulted the US of A! He is scum. Oh, and btw he is irrelevant to the issue at hand. He is in some pacific paradise...he doesn't live in reality and this issue with NK does not concern him or his people..smh
It would be typical of an Afrocentric to side with a traitor. Afrocentrics have no honor..PERIOD!
That's funny...
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T0HQKFN16VCP1...
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T0HQKFN16VCP1...
You called East Asian savages. I would never do that, yet you label me a racist.-__-
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Afrocentrics are all all alike smh They infest Western EUROPEAN founded lands but dwell in ignorance and hatred for the founders and our fundamental way of life..smh They cry slavery, they cry genocide of natives, they cry colonialism but will gladly bathe in the wealth of our supposed "EVIL" countries...smh Why label yourself 'Afrocentric' when you can go be African? They will not do it! SMH
What does this have to do with the topic? You still have not proven that I am a Africentric or racist.
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Again idiot! You label Mathilda eurocentric because she destroys your Afrocentic OOOGA BOOOGA straight to hell where it belongs
She exposed them darkening images smh
She deals with Afrocentrics all the time on her blog, boy. She deals with them as you would deal with a cockroach(No offense to cockroaches)
Afrocentrics do not look at reality. Their whole purpose is to gain self-esteem and attempt to "Best YT" SMH..nothing more.
They cannot deny these artifacts posted on Mathildas. It cleary shows majority Eurasian Ancient Egyptians... Are these fake, boy??
LMWAO!
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.co...
North Africa
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.co...
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.co...
You wanna play that game? Alright...

Ancient Egypt:
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb....
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb....
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb....

The Moors:
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb....
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb....
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb....

Again there is actually more proof of yours and Barros precious Mathilda being Eurocentric than ES being Afrocentric.
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And my avatar is not racist kiddo...It's the truth. You Afrocentrics do not care about his history or accomplishments because in YOUR EYES he is primitive....NOT MINE. So, if his history is not associated with YT you will not claim it.. He is nothing to you, he is just a primitive savage that supposedly makes Afrocentrics look bad, so you just ignore him. Afrocentrist, just like Americo-Liberians, are racist, elitist scum to REAL African people.
SMH
Next!
Oh cry me a river. Who's going to believe your cr*p. Your intentions were to troll and say Africans are primitive. Don't project what Afrocentrics or whatever your twisted mind thinks on to me.

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That's what I said, that you're using his sickle-cell to pretend he had W African ancestry so you can pretend to be Egyptian. You play the game like, oh I'm not the regular Afronazi, I'm not an Olmec Chinese Viking, but in fact you are. You increasingly expose that yes, it's all a front, a pretense at academic credibility.
NUBIANS. Does that word mean nothing to you? THEY are who was south of the Egyptians along the Nile, yet you try to find a source for the Egyptians EVERYWHERE in Africa EXCEPT Nubia!!!
Their genetic, morphological and cultural affinities were with NUBIA!
What you're tired of is your inability to slide your bullcrap past me.
And you're not a Hebrew.
AGAIN DON'T FCKING REPLY TO MY POSTS. Get it through your head.

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Good work on "AE" he claims to be a "jew" yet he doesn't observe the passover. It would seem he's a troll
This may not be true, but they could be the same person. The way they type is similar. But unlike Barros...AE has better reading comprehensions, so I doubt they are the same person and I will not put AE on ignore.

Also that idiot Nagas74 actually thought I was a white troll.-__-

See what I mean? Eurocenrics say I am a Africentric and Afrocentrics say I am a Eurocentric.

Which one is it guys?

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Um...I said Nilotes in Great Lake regions. And the DNAtribes test is not that far fetched, because recently King Ramesses was said to carry E1b1a(which is mostly found in West Africa) recently. Just read this post by me for more details.
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T40QA8TSFKK05...
DNATribes too said the 18th dynasty mummies carred genes found in West Afria. AGAIN DNAtribes is ONLY talking about the 18th dynasty mummies. Different dynasties in Egypt had different origins.
If you want more info, just read this thread here.
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb....
^^^If you think ES is Afrocentric then read for yourself and don't listen to people like Barros or AE, since they have a bias against the site.
They aren't really saying much of anything. Certainly nothing that lends to any notion of those mummies, or Egyptians in general, clustering with any West African populations, let alone central and southern African, which is what Disaster Looms was trying to get at earlier, which is what ultimately started this whole discussion.
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Truthcentric, you are right to be skeptical, however, you are indeed being overly critical in my opinion. While the report is "non-scientific" for the mere fact that it is non-replicable via their methodology, that doesn't strip their conclusions of its epistemological foundation. Indeed, the fact that the source is posted means that it is falsifiable, so we don't need to uncover their method to confirm or dis confirm their results. While all of these companies should be taken with a grain of salt, the accuracy in broad terms I deem trustworthy and trust these results as much as I'd trust my own (and trust me, if my results came back positive for African markers I'd believe it).

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So it is appears someone views the study as "non-scientific", "falsifiable", and '"non-replicable". Why am I not surprised?

Maybe because.....I ALREADY KNEW THAT.

So like I said, nobody really takes that study seriously, no scientist especially. West Africans don't cluster with ancient Egyptians because they have little to nothing to do with each other.

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Sorry about that. I misspelled that poster's name.

It's SUNDJATA.

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"afro-mutts" you say? Thank you for this post white boy. You are a white troll posing as a black Tom. You are also full of contradictions as you have said numerous times before that AEs were black Africans....now you are flipping the script with the "AEs cluster closest to modern Egyptians" white man's d.n.a. alphabet soup fuckery.
I'm not flipping anything, you illiterate donkey puss.

I just posted irrefutable evidence that modern egyptians are the same as ancient egyptians, not freakin' arabs.

And what does your stu9id a$$ mean "white man's DNA"? Do you not realize that SOY Keita is Black, dumm dope?

[QUOTE who="Nagas74"There are many present day black Egyptians[/QUOTE]

Then what the fck is your debunked, bent wrist-having, dyslexic c00n a$$ cryin' about, besides being raped and slapped around by facts?

If there are "many present day black Egyptians", and they mainly reside in the southern regions of Egypt, and Egyptians are proven to be native African, then how is that not just like Ancient Egypt?

What an idi0t you are.

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Aye...Again no one is saying the Ancient Egyptians clustered with West Africans, again DNAtribes study did not say that(Barros keep insisting that I think that which is why I ignored him). I personally do not know what Disasters Looms is talking about.

But I suggest you read more through the thread, because some people made some interesting points.

Here is what member The Explorer says to Truthcentric(Truthcentric is white btw):

"But it shouldn't surprise you. Populations retreating from the desiccating Sahara had found their way southward, not only to the coastal areas of the north."

"Considering your alternative, there must have been some changes through the ages, since the Benin haplotype HbS persists in Egyptian population today, whereas it is all but absent in the African Horn.

Additionally, ties to African populations presently distant from Egypt should not puzzle anyone in the know, since the core ancient Egyptian population would have ultimately drawn from a shared ancestral gene pool that crosscuts the different living African populations, aside from more recent common origins in the Saharan belt."

Here is what Djehuti(who is Filipino btw) says:
"Because the great dessication of North Africa caused much population upheaval and migratory dispersions, this created a chain reaction of migrations like a domino affect! For so long I've only been focusing on West African connections to Egypt via the Central Sahara, but I forgot that there were various pre-Bantu even pre-Benue groups and peoples living in the Central Sahara during the Holocene Wetness as well as early Nilotic groups. Some of these groups migrated further south before the dessication perhaps due to population expansions since North Africa at that time was rich in food supply and resources. When the dessication happened they were pushed further south and/or mixed with groups escaping desertification. Of course the Bantu language expansion took place well after these events which is why many Bantu-speaking people in South Africa today carry indigenous lineages to the region instead of West-Central African lineages associated with Bantu which again shows the difference between bio-genesis and ethnogenesis. And let's not forget the various Nilotic peoples who inhabited much of central and eastern Africa before Bantus as well."

Also here is what DNAtribes says...

"Q: What is the scientific basis for DNA Tribes method of analysis?

A: DNA Tribes® is a private firm specializing in genetic ancestry analysis, including both geographical analysis of world populations and the comparison of individuals to living populations and world regions. DNA Tribes’
proprietary analysis has been developed by Dr. Eduardas Valaitis, who received his Doctorate in Statistics from Yale University in 2005. Dr. Valaitis has been an Assistant Professor in the Department of Mathematics and Statistics at American University in Washington, D.C. Dr. Valaitis’ background includes extensive work in
multivariate analysis and classification, which involves identifying mathematical structure present within large and complex datasets. This expertise allows DNA Tribes to perform a uniquely detailed and comprehensive analysis of
world populations to identify genetic structure on an objective mathematical basis. All data used in our analysis COME FROM PEER-REVIEWED SCIENTIFIC STUDIES OF WORLD POPULATIONS. Our unique U.S. Patent Pending method of analysis is available exclusively through DNA Tribes."

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I also stated their was a study done that was led by Zahi Hawass that confirmed Ramesses III was E1b1a. Where is E1b1a mostly found?
http://i49.tinypic.com/2mpy8sw.jpg

Here is the study.

"Revisiting the harem conspiracy and death of Ramesses III: anthropological, forensic, radiological, and genetic study"

http://www.bmj.com/content/345/bmj.e8268

Zahi Hawass, egyptologist1,
Somaia Ismail, professor of molecular biology23,
Ashraf Selim, professor of radiology4,
Sahar N Saleem, professor of radiology4,
Dina Fathalla, molecular biologist3,
Sally Wasef, molecular biologist5,
Ahmed Z Gad, molecular biologist3,
Rama Saad, molecular biologist3,
Suzan Fares, molecular biologist3,
Hany Amer, assistant professor of pharmacology6,
Paul Gostner, radiologist7,
Yehia Z Gad, professor of molecular genetics2,
Carsten M Pusch, molecular biologist8,
Albert R Zink, paleopathologist9

"Genetic kinship analyses revealed identical haplotypes in both mummies (table 1&#8659;); using the Whit Athey’s haplogroup predictor, we determined the Y chromosomal haplogroup E1b1a. The testing of polymorphic autosomal microsatellite loci provided similar results in at least one allele of each marker (table 2&#8659;). Although the mummy of Ramesses III’s wife Tiy was not available for testing, the identical Y chromosomal DNA and autosomal half allele sharing of the two male mummies strongly suggest a father-son relationship."

So DNAtribes saying King Tut had West African ancestry(as in the genes he carried) doesn't seem far fetch.

Also DNAtribes does a latter study on King Ramesses III.
http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2013-02...

"In addition, these DNA match results in present day world regions might in part express
population changes in Africa after the time of Ramesses III. In particular, DNA matches in PRESENT day populations of Southern Africa and the African Great Lakes might to some degree reflect genetic links with ancient populations (formerly living closer to New Kingdom Egypt) that have expanded southwards
in the Nilotic and Bantu migrations of the past 3,000 years (see Figure 1)"

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But I suggest you read more through the thread, because some people made some interesting points.
Here is what member The Explorer says to Truthcentric(Truthcentric is white btw):
"But it shouldn't surprise you. Populations retreating from the desiccating Sahara had found their way southward, not only to the coastal areas of the north."
"Considering your alternative, there must have been some changes through the ages, since the Benin haplotype HbS persists in Egyptian population today, whereas it is all but absent in the African Horn.
Additionally, ties to African populations presently distant from Egypt should not puzzle anyone in the know, since the core ancient Egyptian population would have ultimately drawn from a shared ancestral gene pool that crosscuts the different living African populations, aside from more recent common origins in the Saharan belt."
I'm not really interested in reading through that entire 27 page thread.

Also, what "shared ancestral gene pool that crosscuts the different living African populations" is that guy referring to?
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Here is what Djehuti(who is Filipino btw) says:
"Because the great dessication of North Africa caused much population upheaval and migratory dispersions, this created a chain reaction of migrations like a domino affect! For so long I've only been focusing on West African connections to Egypt via the Central Sahara, but I forgot that there were various pre-Bantu even pre-Benue groups and peoples living in the Central Sahara during the Holocene Wetness as well as early Nilotic groups. Some of these groups migrated further south before the dessication perhaps due to population expansions since North Africa at that time was rich in food supply and resources. When the dessication happened they were pushed further south and/or mixed with groups escaping desertification. Of course the Bantu language expansion took place well after these events which is why many Bantu-speaking people in South Africa today carry indigenous lineages to the region instead of West-Central African lineages associated with Bantu which again shows the difference between bio-genesis and ethnogenesis. And let's not forget the various Nilotic peoples who inhabited much of central and eastern Africa before Bantus as well."
Most West Africans who came from the Sahara came from the Western, Southern and Central region. Most Egyptians who came from the Sahara came from the Eastern region:

Using phraseology such as "they came from the Sahara" is largely ambiguous since the Sahara is almost as large as the United States, meaning you can have people who came the Sahara and still not have anything to do with each other.

"On a longer time-scale, there is good circumstantial evidence in support of hte view that Late Holocene climatic dessication was associated with migration of cattle-herders from the central and southern Sahara into West Africa (A.B. Smith, 19800. A further repercussion of this dessication was the probable movement of pastoralists away from the eastern Sahara toward the Nile (J.D. Clark, 1980a)." pp.75 From Hunters to Farmers

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I'm not really interested in reading through that entire 27 page thread.
Also, what "shared ancestral gene pool that crosscuts the different living African populations" is that guy referring to?
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Most West Africans who came from the Sahara came from the Western, Southern and Central region. Most Egyptians who came from the Sahara came from the Eastern region:
Using phraseology such as "they came from the Sahara" is largely ambiguous since the Sahara is almost as large as the United States, meaning you can have people who came the Sahara and still not have anything to do with each other.
"On a longer time-scale, there is good circumstantial evidence in support of hte view that Late Holocene climatic dessication was associated with migration of cattle-herders from the central and southern Sahara into West Africa (A.B. Smith, 19800. A further repercussion of this dessication was the probable movement of pastoralists away from the eastern Sahara toward the Nile (J.D. Clark, 1980a)." pp.75 From Hunters to Farmers
http://goo.gl/sHm0M
Why don't you create a thread on Egyptsearch about DNAtribes test on the arama mummies and your opinion of it. They'll give you a more detailed answers than I would. This will make things more simple and it will quickly solve all this. Their good people and will help you out.

Again they'll give you a much better detailed answers than I would.

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I also stated their was a study done that was led by Zahi Hawass that confirmed Ramesses III was E1b1a. Where is E1b1a mostly found?
http://i49.tinypic.com/2mpy8sw.jpg
Here is the study.
"Revisiting the harem conspiracy and death of Ramesses III: anthropological, forensic, radiological, and genetic study"
http://www.bmj.com/content/345/bmj.e8268
Zahi Hawass, egyptologist1,
Somaia Ismail, professor of molecular biology23,
Ashraf Selim, professor of radiology4,
Sahar N Saleem, professor of radiology4,
Dina Fathalla, molecular biologist3,
Sally Wasef, molecular biologist5,
Ahmed Z Gad, molecular biologist3,
Rama Saad, molecular biologist3,
Suzan Fares, molecular biologist3,
Hany Amer, assistant professor of pharmacology6,
Paul Gostner, radiologist7,
Yehia Z Gad, professor of molecular genetics2,
Carsten M Pusch, molecular biologist8,
Albert R Zink, paleopathologist9
"Genetic kinship analyses revealed identical haplotypes in both mummies (table 1&#8659;); using the Whit Athey’s haplogroup predictor, we determined the Y chromosomal haplogroup E1b1a. The testing of polymorphic autosomal microsatellite loci provided similar results in at least one allele of each marker (table 2&#8659;). Although the mummy of Ramesses III’s wife Tiy was not available for testing, the identical Y chromosomal DNA and autosomal half allele sharing of the two male mummies strongly suggest a father-son relationship."
So DNAtribes saying King Tut had West African ancestry(as in the genes he carried) doesn't seem far fetch.
Also DNAtribes does a latter study on King Ramesses III.
http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2013-02...
"In addition, these DNA match results in present day world regions might in part express
population changes in Africa after the time of Ramesses III. In particular, DNA matches in PRESENT day populations of Southern Africa and the African Great Lakes might to some degree reflect genetic links with ancient populations (formerly living closer to New Kingdom Egypt) that have expanded southwards
in the Nilotic and Bantu migrations of the past 3,000 years (see Figure 1)"
I already know this, and I know that it means virtually nothing. Egyptians have a small amount of E1b1a, a haplogroup that is supposed to have originated from East Africa anyway. So what exactly is a pharaoh having that haplogroup supposed to prove?

And in any case, I don't care about one pharaoh's DNA. This discussion is concerning the Egyptian population at large, which has practically nothing to do with West Africans, and vice versa.

Also, just to make it clear, I am referring about Ancient Egypt and in ancient times. What you and those other people are talking about would have been prehistoric times, well before the rise of any kingdoms in either region.

My central argument is and always has been that West Africans didn't come from Egypt. We have nothing to do with the creation of any of the civilizations there, and they didn't diffuse any of their culture to us, as there is no hard evidence for it. West Africans barely got influence, if any, from Carthage, and they are known to have dealt with them, whether directly or indirectly, so it makes even less sense to assume that Egyptians had any real effect at at all on West Africans. Not to say that that is what you are saying, but it has been said before by others, and I'm just setting the record straight.

You seem to be arguing a completely different argument than what I am arguing.

There is no real connection between the two peoples except the superficial one of them coming from the same continent and having ancestry tracing to east Africa. Whatever haplogroups they might share is more so due to common, distant ancestry, no more different than that of West Africans and Berbers, or West Africans and Horners, etc., rather than direct ancestry.

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Why don't you create a thread on Egyptsearch about DNAtribes test on the arama mummies and your opinion of it. They'll give you a more detailed answers than I would. This will make things more simple and it will quickly solve all this. Their good people and will help you out.
Again they'll give you a much better detailed answers than I would.
I can't create a thread on there because the freakin' administrators won't OK my account. I've been waiting for weeks since I first registered and no response.

In any case, I don't care about the DNA tribes. Everything I already knew was confirmed.

The tests are falsifiable and should not be taken as anything exact, or even close to exact.
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I can't create a thread on there because the freakin' administrators won't OK my account. I've been waiting for weeks since I first registered and no response.
In any case, I don't care about the DNA tribes. Everything I already knew was confirmed.
The tests are falsifiable and should not be taken as anything exact, or even close to exact.
Lol Those administrators have the right idea! They probably know that you are a Coon or a white troll.

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This is REAL African history. Interesting video on the Nubians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Also I think the Kongo Kingdom is the most underrated Kingdom and doesn't get a lot of praise. Check out this blog I made about the Kingdom on my site.
http://black-earth.webs.com/apps/blog/show/25...

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I can't create a thread on there because the freakin' administrators won't OK my account. I've been waiting for weeks since I first registered and no response.
In any case, I don't care about the DNA tribes. Everything I already knew was confirmed.
The tests are falsifiable and should not be taken as anything exact, or even close to exact.
Which Egyptsearch did you register for? There are TWO...Regular Egyptsearch and Egyptsearch reloaded. I had problems with Egyptsearch reloaded.

And what was confirmed?
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Bakari Neferu wrote:
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I already know this, and I know that it means virtually nothing. Egyptians have a small amount of E1b1a, a haplogroup that is supposed to have originated from East Africa anyway. So what exactly is a pharaoh having that haplogroup supposed to prove?
And in any case, I don't care about one pharaoh's DNA. This discussion is concerning the Egyptian population at large, which has practically nothing to do with West Africans, and vice versa.
Also, just to make it clear, I am referring about Ancient Egypt and in ancient times. What you and those other people are talking about would have been prehistoric times, well before the rise of any kingdoms in either region.
My central argument is and always has been that West Africans didn't come from Egypt. We have nothing to do with the creation of any of the civilizations there, and they didn't diffuse any of their culture to us, as there is no hard evidence for it. West Africans barely got influence, if any, from Carthage, and they are known to have dealt with them, whether directly or indirectly, so it makes even less sense to assume that Egyptians had any real effect at at all on West Africans. Not to say that that is what you are saying, but it has been said before by others, and I'm just setting the record straight.
You seem to be arguing a completely different argument than what I am arguing.
There is no real connection between the two peoples except the superficial one of them coming from the same continent and having ancestry tracing to east Africa. Whatever haplogroups they might share is more so due to common, distant ancestry, no more different than that of West Africans and Berbers, or West Africans and Horners, etc., rather than direct ancestry.
This post has "white troll" written all over it. Just admit you are a Euroclown posing as a sell-out minded KNEEGROW. Your intent is to confuse or derail blacks who refuse to believe in Western Academias version of black history off course. It is a common theme with white trolls on topix. Espouse pure Eurocentric ideas under the guise of being a black poster. The logic behind it being that maybe blacks might buy into the lies better if they think that the poster is black. At best you are an Uncle Tom.

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Nagas74 wrote:
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Lol Those administrators have the right idea! They probably know that you are a Coon or a white troll.
They don't know sh8t about me, phaggot fool.

I'm no c99n or troll, just your b8tch a$$. And unlike your c99nish, trollish b8tch a$$, I actually have some semblance of intelligence and can actually conduct a proper debate.

Personally I think they just might be off duty.

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