Bmacwaters

Brooklyn, NY

#5752 Apr 4, 2013
Hotlanta wrote:
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http://www.historyplace.com/pointsofview/not-...
" Not Out of Africa
Was Greek Culture Stolen from Africa?
Modern Myth vs. Ancient History
Ordinarily, if someone has a theory which involves a radical departure from what the experts have professed, he is expected to defend his position by providing evidence in its support. But no one seemed to think it was appropriate to ask for evidence from the instructors who claimed that the Greeks stole their philosophy from Egypt.
Normally, if one has a question about a text that another instructor is using, one simply asks why he or she is using that book. But since this conventional line of inquiry was closed to me, I had to wait till I could raise my questions in a more public context. That opportunity came in February 1993, when Dr. Yosef A. A. ben-Jochannan was invited to give Wellesley's Martin Luther King, Jr. memorial lecture. Posters described Dr. ben-Jochannan as a "distinguished Egyptologist," and indeed that is how he was introduced by the then President of Wellesley College. But I knew from my research in Afrocentric literature that he was not what scholars would ordinarily describe as an Egyptologist, that is a scholar of Egyptian language and civilization. Rather, he was an extreme Afrocentrist, author of many books describing how Greek civilization was stolen from Africa, how Aristotle robbed the library of Alexandria, and how the true Jews are Africans like himself. "
"he is expected to defend his position by providing EVIDENCE in its support."
SO FAR, NO DAMNED "PROOF"!
Next idiot please..........
Sorry! Mary lefkowitz is a Lying biatch! Ha. I already told you that this info has nothing to do with her people. She is not of original Hebrew stock. She is a European who family converted to Judaism. Her people have nothing to do with ancient Egypt. They were cave dwellers. Her opinion holds no weight at all and she is simply a student when it comes to African History. STFU and learn! And why is she going to Dr. Ben lectures just to question him negatively. If I was Dr. Ben I would have done the same thing. The same thing that Jesus did when that caucasian women asked him for help and he dismissed her because that struggle didn't pertain to her people or what Malcolm X did to that white girl who ask what could she do to help and was told absolutely nothin, this wasn't her fight! The proof is in the puddin. But racist are Blind, Def, and Dumb so why waste time. I just wasted time explaining this to your dumb @ss but I'm @ work making $50 an hour making you look stupid on this thread! Ha! And having fun too!
Bmacwaters

Brooklyn, NY

#5753 Apr 4, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
ben Jochanim... another Afronazi clown.
Not to be taken seriously.
Notice the bmac theory of 6000-yr-old whitey invented by a black scientist... LOL!!!
Talk about theories with NO evidence! That one takes the prize. But Farrakhan's racist NOI cult teaches that nonsense.
Racism as intense as that of any German Nazi... that's why I call them AFRONAZIS and that's what they are.
Where did you come from? Another "@sshole trying to deny the truth that doesn't agree with them? Ha! You see the Nazis theory was based on lies, deception and racism which was bombed during the Olympics when Black athletes took the gold and made Hitler look stupid in front of his whole country! Ha!
Now what I am saying is that Two Africans can have a recessive gene and produce albino offspring but you don't see it happening the other way. Fact! You put 50 black people and 100 white people on an island together and they begin to produce offspring in 100 years there's no more white people on that island! Fact! This isn't racism. It's the MF TRUTH! You just mad you're not black! The Meek shall inherit the Earth! And Leprosey is a curse of white skin. I didn't make this up. Your own Bible says the same thing!

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#5755 Apr 4, 2013
Bmacwaters wrote:
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Where did you come from? Another "@sshole trying to deny the truth that doesn't agree with them? Ha! You see the Nazis theory was based on lies, deception and racism which was bombed during the Olympics when Black athletes took the gold and made Hitler look stupid in front of his whole country! Ha!
Now what I am saying is that Two Africans can have a recessive gene and produce albino offspring but you don't see it happening the other way. Fact! You put 50 black people and 100 white people on an island together and they begin to produce offspring in 100 years there's no more white people on that island! Fact! This isn't racism. It's the MF TRUTH! You just mad you're not black! The Meek shall inherit the Earth! And Leprosey is a curse of white skin. I didn't make this up. Your own Bible says the same thing!
You're babbling nonsense, as of course you would, being an Afronazi.

My Bible? Look at avatar. That is a Hindu symbol. It means A-um or Om. I'm not christian, get it?

What does Jesse Owens have to do with your idiotic fantasies about black Olmecs? You're babbling cliches and nonsense, as usual.

You obviously know nothing about genetics. W Africans are DARKER than their ancestors, probably due to a combination of evolving to more tropical environment that that of the original Homo sapiens (Ethiopian highlands) and mixing with indigenous W-Central African Homo heidelbergensis, who was already darker.

The fact is, you believe in the white racist one-drop rule. Mix a black and white and you get someone of intermediate color. There is no dominance of the black genes. How the hell do you think light-skinned African-Americans appeared?

Obviously you dropped out of 10th grade. You have nothing worthwhile to say.

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Since: Nov 11

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#5756 Apr 4, 2013
Bmacwaters wrote:
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Sorry! Mary lefkowitz is a Lying biatch! Ha. I already told you that this info has nothing to do with her people. She is not of original Hebrew stock. She is a European who family converted to Judaism. Her people have nothing to do with ancient Egypt. They were cave dwellers. Her opinion holds no weight at all and she is simply a student when it comes to African History. STFU and learn! And why is she going to Dr. Ben lectures just to question him negatively. If I was Dr. Ben I would have done the same thing. The same thing that Jesus did when that caucasian women asked him for help and he dismissed her because that struggle didn't pertain to her people or what Malcolm X did to that white girl who ask what could she do to help and was told absolutely nothin, this wasn't her fight! The proof is in the puddin. But racist are Blind, Def, and Dumb so why waste time. I just wasted time explaining this to your dumb @ss but I'm @ work making $50 an hour making you look stupid on this thread! Ha! And having fun too!
Mary Lefkowitz, unlike you, is a Hebrew. And Hebrews were not Egyptian, fool. They were from the Levant. You know, where ISRAEL is today? That's their legitimate country.

Has nothing to do with YOU, certainly.
Bmacwaters

Brooklyn, NY

#5758 Apr 4, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Mary Lefkowitz, unlike you, is a Hebrew. And Hebrews were not Egyptian, fool. They were from the Levant. You know, where ISRAEL is today? That's their legitimate country.
Has nothing to do with YOU, certainly.
Where are the ruins of Jerusalem in "Modern Day" Israel? The city built into a mountain almost impenetrable by any army protected by walls three tiered that was to stand for 10,000 years? I bet Mary don't know that one. Hebrew only means that they speak the language. She is not a descendant of Abraham. So the original Hebrews have everything to do with me because they looked just like me. And my father.
Bong.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#5759 Apr 4, 2013
Nagas74 wrote:
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This extra long crying posts means nothing.
This "posts" means that your phaggot a$$ has been trolling for my attention ever since the day your b8tcha$$ has come across me.

I mean let's try to look this thing objectively, if you are capable.
Your whole reason for existence is to attract my attention. None of your posts about or to me are accurate, evidenced by your inability to furnish any evidence of your claims. None of your posts have any substantive value, meaning they contain nothing that someone else can learn from, except just how bizarrely obsessed your phaggot a$$ is with me. None of your posts are sensible. None contain even the smallest grain of reason.

You call me a race traitor for proving that Olmecs were Mesoamerican and Sumerians were Asian, with no actual counter evidence of your own due to your illiteracy and complete and utter stupidity, but your moose-mouth face shuts down like a slapped up and raped tranny hooker every time a real opportunity to defend interior African history and achievement comes up, such as that thread I directed to you a while back. Your groupie barbie a$$ was nowhere to be found when the racists were having their fun mocking Black African ability, yet I was there defending interior African achievement as usual.
Nagas74 wrote:
You are an idiotic race traitor.
My, fem boy. I'm no idiot. I'm your cognitive superior, as evidenced by all my viable posts in contrast with all your dyslexic posts, and don't you ever make the mistake of forgetting that, obsessive phaggot c00n.

Now explain to me how one who properly and consistently defends Interior African achievement fall into the category of race-traitor.

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#5760 Apr 4, 2013
Bmacwaters wrote:
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Where are the ruins of Jerusalem in "Modern Day" Israel? The city built into a mountain almost impenetrable by any army protected by walls three tiered that was to stand for 10,000 years? I bet Mary don't know that one. Hebrew only means that they speak the language. She is not a descendant of Abraham. So the original Hebrews have everything to do with me because they looked just like me. And my father.
Bong.
Put down the bong.

They looked like her. They are her ancestors. The Ashkenazim like Sephardim and Mizrahim are Hebrews. You are not.

Hebrews, J2-type Mideastern Semites, not black Africans. Been like that since before history. They are among the peoples who participated in the creation of the Neolithic.

They have nothing to do with you, and you should keep your mouth shut about peoples who don't need you validating their existence or identity.

So are you one of those lunatics who thinks Jerusalem was Mexico? Ethiopia? LOL... and there's a spaceship involved, right?
Bmacwaters

Brooklyn, NY

#5761 Apr 4, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>
Put down the bong.
They looked like her. They are her ancestors. The Ashkenazim like Sephardim and Mizrahim are Hebrews. You are not.
Hebrews, J2-type Mideastern Semites, not black Africans. Been like that since before history. They are among the peoples who participated in the creation of the Neolithic.
They have nothing to do with you, and you should keep your mouth shut about peoples who don't need you validating their existence or identity.
So are you one of those lunatics who thinks Jerusalem was Mexico? Ethiopia? LOL... and there's a spaceship involved, right?


Now I see your curse more clearly. It has nothing to do with your skin color and everything to do with your mind state. You're doomed -_-

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Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#5762 Apr 4, 2013
Bmacwaters wrote:
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Now I see your curse more clearly. It has nothing to do with your skin color and everything to do with your mind state. You're doomed -_-
You sound like one of those fanatic fundy Christians cursing everyone to hell.

Which lunatic fringe do you pertain to? Fake Hebrew Israelite? Or just a random psycho racist Afronazi losing his marbles?

Either way, you're a joke.
Nagas74

United States

#5763 Apr 5, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
ben Jochanim... another Afronazi clown.
Not to be taken seriously.
Notice the bmac theory of 6000-yr-old whitey invented by a black scientist... LOL!!!
Talk about theories with NO evidence! That one takes the prize. But Farrakhan's racist NOI cult teaches that nonsense.
Racism as intense as that of any German Nazi... that's why I call them AFRONAZIS and that's what they are.
Finally decided to re-join the party created by your slave Bakari huh Barros?

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#5764 Apr 5, 2013
Nagas74 wrote:
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Finally decided to re-join the party created by your slave Bakari huh Barros?
You literally wake up in the morning obsessing about me, don't you, phaggot b8tch?
Nagas74

United States

#5765 Apr 5, 2013
Jeff,Sinajuavi(Barros),and Hotlanta are all anti-black racist trolls! Notice how this Coon will let these nazis say or do anything on his own threads refusing to EVER check them. Yet he has so much contempt for posters whom he deems to be "Afrocentric" that he will go out of his way to make entire threads tearing them down. "African defender" or race traitor and Coon? The latter.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#5766 Apr 5, 2013
Nagas74 wrote:
Jeff,Sinajuavi(Barros),and Hotlanta are all anti-black racist trolls! Notice how this Coon will let these nazis say or do anything on his own threads refusing to EVER check them. Yet he has so much contempt for posters whom he deems to be "Afrocentric" that he will go out of his way to make entire threads tearing them down. "African defender" or race traitor and Coon? The latter.
You literally wake up in the morning obsessing about me, don't you, phaggot b8tch?

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Since: May 10

Location hidden

#5768 Apr 5, 2013
Garrig wrote:
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True, the orgins of AAs lies in West Africa. And there is plenty history and culture thre that is overlooked in claiming the Moors and the Olmecs etc. It's just plain stupid.
i think all africans can claim egypt.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#5769 Apr 5, 2013
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
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i think all africans can claim egypt.
I can bet you any amount of money that Egyptians will disagree.

Why would any Black person in their right ming want to "claim" Egypt anyway?

They're a bunch scum-sucking racists, just like all the Arab states.

Even THEY say they are:

http://www.monaeltahawy.com/blog/...

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Since: May 10

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#5770 Apr 5, 2013
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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I can bet you any amount of money that Egyptians will disagree.
Why would any Black person in their right ming want to "claim" Egypt anyway?
They're a bunch scum-sucking racists, just like all the Arab states.
Even THEY say they are:
http://www.monaeltahawy.com/blog/...
i mean ancient egyptian civilization. i know you checked out the links i posted to you a while ago. pharaonic egypt, at least from those samples tested to date, clearly clusters with black africa, with south africa, the great lakes region, and west africa coming up as the closest matches. and the most recent research (you get black genesis yet?), has advanced egyptian civilization coming outta the saharan highlands.

with cushitic and 'asiatic' north african types, also being part of the mix, i'd say ancient egypt belongs to all of africa.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#5771 Apr 5, 2013
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
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i mean ancient egyptian civilization. i know you checked out the links i posted to you a while ago. pharaonic egypt, at least from those samples tested to date, clearly clusters with black africa, with south africa, the great lakes region, and west africa coming up as the closest matches. and the most recent research (you get black genesis yet?), has advanced egyptian civilization coming outta the saharan highlands.
with cushitic and 'asiatic' north african types, also being part of the mix, i'd say ancient egypt belongs to all of africa.
Egypt doesn't "belong" to anyone except Egyptians.

I've already informed you that I had Black Genesis. I just hadn't read it at the time, and I still haven't read it. I'm far more interested in Interior African studies.

I don't have a problem with the Saharan origin theory for Egyptians, as it actually makes sense and is corroborated by actual scholars and scientists.

However, that DNAtribes mess is nothing that anyone takes seriously except for afrocentrists. I remember having a debate on youtube with someone about it, and I challenged him to name me just three modern scholars who back the study.

To this date he hasn't presented even one, and neither has anyone else I've asked.

It's like Egyptians being Interior African in origin isn't enough for afrocentrists; they have to make them West African and Bantu as well.

All *real* genetic and anthropological studies depict AE's as being clustered with other east Africans, with Nubians being the closest cluster.

West Africans and Central and Southern Africans just don't make the cut, I'm afraid.

“Try harder :)”

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#5772 Apr 5, 2013
Actually the DNAtribes test is valid, its just that Eurocentrics try to dismiss DNAtribes. The test done by DNAtribes was done in a lab.

As for Egyptians being racist. No not all Egyptians are racist, mostly the lighter ones from the delta. Thee are many Egyptians that claim they are black/Egyptian. I known many Egyptians that argued that Ancient Egypt was African in origin(which it was) and it is even taught in Egypt that that Ancient Egypt was African origin. My younger sister lived in Egypt for a while and she said some of the locals were much darker than her and some acknowledged they were African/Black.

I've also known many blacks from America who have visited Egypt and the locals treated them nice.

Also Arab is not a race, but culture. In Egypt, you can be both Arab and black. This video basiaclly touches base on what I am saying.
&li st=FLOi5yL1B9aLEWSTjyIwcWLw

And in Egypt the culture is not even Arabized that much. And Bakari if people want to take interest in Egypt, then please let them...

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#5773 Apr 5, 2013
big mike M wrote:
Actually the DNAtribes test is valid, its just that Eurocentrics try to dismiss DNAtribes. The test done by DNAtribes was done in a lab.
As for Egyptians being racist. No not all Egyptians are racist, mostly the lighter ones from the delta. Thee are many Egyptians that claim they are black/Egyptian. I known many Egyptians that argued that Ancient Egypt was African in origin(which it was) and it is even taught in Egypt that that Ancient Egypt was African origin. My younger sister lived in Egypt for a while and she said some of the locals were much darker than her and some acknowledged they were African/Black.
I've also known many blacks from America who have visited Egypt and the locals treated them nice.
Also Arab is not a race, but culture. In Egypt, you can be both Arab and black. This video basiaclly touches base on what I am saying.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =3XUPZokMb6AXX&list=FLOi5y L1B9aLEWSTjyIwcWLw
And in Egypt the culture is not even Arabized that much. And Bakari if people want to take interest in Egypt, then please let them...
I don't care about what other peoples' interests. I'm telling Disaster Looms that Egypt, ancient or modern, doesn't "belong" to anyone except them, and it is not for anyone that is not Egyptian, especially Black African descendants who originate from the opposite side of the continent, to "claim". The whole idea of "claiming" Egypt just because you like the history is insane to me.

As for the DNA tribes, as I said, I want the names of at least three modern scientists that have no affiliations with DNAtribes who corroborate/back that study.

There are multiple studies evidencing that Egyptians cluster with other Northeastern Africans, there should be multiple studies done by independent entities that confirm DNAtribes' studies....if they are as valid as you say.

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#5774 Apr 5, 2013
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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Egypt doesn't "belong" to anyone except Egyptians.
I've already informed you that I had Black Genesis. I just hadn't read it at the time, and I still haven't read it. I'm far more interested in Interior African studies.
I don't have a problem with the Saharan origin theory for Egyptians, as it actually makes sense and is corroborated by actual scholars and scientists.
However, that DNAtribes mess is nothing that anyone takes seriously except for afrocentrists. I remember having a debate on youtube with someone about it, and I challenged him to name me just three modern scholars who back the study.
To this date he hasn't presented even one, and neither has anyone else I've asked.
It's like Egyptians being Interior African in origin isn't enough for afrocentrists; they have to make them West African and Bantu as well.
All *real* genetic and anthropological studies depict AE's as being clustered with other east Africans, with Nubians being the closest cluster.
West Africans and Central and Southern Africans just don't make the cut, I'm afraid.
i can't say i know much bout dnatribes, but on this specific study i believe it was sourced to the journal of american medical association.

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