Why do Afrocentrists obsess over Egyp...
trollslayer

South Holland, IL

#2353 Nov 19, 2012
big mike M wrote:
Barros claims he's not a racist, yet he calls someone a "filthy stinking Muslim" how racist...-__-
big mike M......meet the real "baros meltdowndowm" below

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TA34MRH7FC20S...

don't throw stones when ya' live..........
Nagas74

Detroit, MI

#2354 Nov 19, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
Deming NM, boy. When will you arrive? Tell me when, and I'll tell you where.
You know what I do to racists? Fun for me... not for you, boy.
Too bad you've lost every one of your Afronazi culture-stealing battles here on Topix, fool.
Now go get an education. As it is, you are not worthy to address me.
I'm no eurocentric, boy, but you're a racist Afronazi. Therefore... you deserve what will happen to you if your cowardly racist ass ever did actually come into my presence...
But we know you racists are always cowards, so I'm not holding my breath.
Battles? Is that what you think this is? You think that by constantly posting lies from Eurocentric psuedoscientists with a racial agenda you have "won" something? You really are the dumbest troll on topix.
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#2355 Nov 19, 2012
Now, back on the fertile vs infertile Sahara (time) zone.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/beyo...

http://i45.tinypic.com/rw2bfk.jpg

Wadi Kubbaniya (ca. 17,000–15,000 B.C.)

Although no signs of houses were found, diverse and sophisticated stone implements for hunting, fishing, and collecting and processing plants were discovered around hearths.

In Egypt, the earliest evidence of humans can be recognized only from tools found scattered over an ancient surface, sometimes with hearths nearby. In Wadi Kubbaniya, a dried-up streambed cutting through the Western Desert to the floodplain northwest of Aswan in Upper Egypt, some interesting sites of the kind described above have been recorded. A cluster of Late Paleolithic camps was located in two different topographic zones: on the tops of dunes and the floor of the wadi (streambed) where it enters the valley. Although no signs of houses were found, diverse and sophisticated stone implements for hunting, fishing, and collecting and processing plants were discovered around hearths. Most tools were bladelets made from a local stone called chert that is widely used in tool fabrication. The bones of wild cattle, hartebeest, many types of fish and birds, as well as the occasional hippopotamus have been identified in the occupation layers. Charred remains of plants that the inhabitants consumed, especially tubers, have also been found.

It appears from the zoological and botanical remains at the various sites in this wadi that the two environmental zones were exploited at different times. We know that the dune sites were occupied when the Nile River flooded the wadi because large numbers of fish and migratory bird bones were found at this location. When the water receded, people then moved down onto the silt left behind on the wadi floor and the floodplain, probably following large animals that looked for water there in the dry season. Paleolithic peoples lived at Wadi Kubbaniya for about 2,000 years, exploiting the different environments as the seasons changed. Other ancient camps have been discovered along the Nile from Sudan to the Mediterranean, yielding similar tools and food remains. These sites demonstrate that the early inhabitants of the Nile valley and its nearby deserts had learned how to exploit local environments, developing economic strategies that were maintained in later cultural traditions of pharaonic Egypt.

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/h2/h2_wa...

Diana Craig Patch
Department of Egyptian Art, The Metropolitan Museum of Art

Laura Anne Tedesco
Department of Education, The Metropolitan Museum of Art

Legacy on his neck,

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u3PedaJ-N8Q/SNHgovK...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31nSjx1...

http://egypte-info-site.nl/ankh.jpg
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#2356 Nov 19, 2012
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
In modern humans, this elongation is a pattern characteristic of warm-adapted populations, and this physique may be an early Cro-Magnon retention from African ancestors. Similar retentions may be observed in certain indices of facial shape ...
"Molecular biology has traced the ancestry of the Cro-Magnons deep into&#65279; tropical Africa, into the territory of the hypothetical African Eve"...
--Cro-Magnon:How the Ice Age Gave Birth to the First Modern Humans, By Brian Fagan,pg 89 (2010).
http://picturestack.com/87/826/UtrSchermafbeE...
--B. Lewis et al. 2008. Understanding Humans: Introduction to Physical Anthropology and Archaeology. p 297
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110809/full/4...
(B) Relative frequencies of haplogroups L0, L1, L5, L2, L3, M, and N in different regions of Africa from mtDNA d-loop and mtDNA coding region SNPs from previous studies.
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/3/75...
http://picturestack.com/21/104/F6iSchermafbe8...
--Norman A. Johnson (2007) Darwinian Detectives: Revealing the Natural History of Genes and Genomes pg100
quote:
Two other variants (489C and 10873C) also support a single origin of haplogroup M in Africa.
http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v23/n4/abs/n...
First how about you respond to Bakari's countless request for more info on those two sources you posted to him about. He has repeatedly asked you to provide more information on them and you repeatedly ignored his requests.

Secondly Haplogroup M & N are NOT African, they Eurasian, their deepest and most diverse lineages are found in ASIA and show BACK migrations FROM Asia into Africa. Even the source you provided states as much, idiot.

"These 2 M and N haplogroup clades included a few Tanzanians (belonging to haplogroups M1, M, N1, and J), suggesting possible recent gene flow back into Africa...[...] Finally, our limited genetic data from Tanzanians belonging to haplogroups M1, N1, and J. mtDNAs of Tanzanians belonging to haplogroup M1 cluster with peoples from Oceania, whereas Tanzanian mtDNAs belonging to haplogroup N1 and J cluster with peoples of Middle Eastern and Eurasian origin. The presence of haplogroups N1 and J in Tanzania suggest ----> “BACK” <---- migrations from the Middle East or Eurasia into eastern Africa, which has been inferred from previous studies of other populations in eastern Africa (Kivisild et al. 2004)."
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/3/75...

Lastly Cro Magnon WERE NOT tropical African. They were Eurasian types & carried Eurasian Haplogroup markers like (mtDNA) N and (mtDNA) U5. Cro Magnon lived in COLD adapted regions of Eurasia and they already adapted NONE tropical features that were crucial for their survival cause tropical types COULD NOT survive in the Eurasian regions. Sub Saharan African tropical types clustered the FURTHEST from Cro Magnon types.

"Yet the D2 values in Table 3 show that it is slightly closer to Late Prehistoric Eurasia and that ---> IT IS THE FARTHEST <--- from the N ! g r - Co n, Natufians." ~ Brace

Brace confirms NORTHERN Europeans ( who happen to have the LEAST African admixture) to be the CLOSEST to Cro-Magnon types.

C. L. Brace:
"I was able to get just under 20 measurements on Cro Magnon of the two dozen data set I have used to compare populations in the world and the statistics showed convincingly that while Cro Magnon does not tie in with the recent French,-----> IT DOES INDEED TIE CLOSELY WITH OUR ENGLISH AND SCANDINAVIAN <---- samples." ~ C. L. Brace

"The team confirmed that, of modern people, Sardinians are Ötzi's closest relatives. But among the prehistoric quartet,Ötzi most closely resembled the farmers found in Bulgaria and Sweden, while the Swedish and Iberian hunter-gatherers [Cro-Magnon]---> LOOKED MORE LIKE PRESENT DAY NORTHERN EUROPEANS <---." ~ LiveScience

Now answer Bakari's request on those two sources you posted, dingleberry.

bozino
Level 6

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#2358 Nov 19, 2012
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
I see you missed a few points, you need to update. It's no longer 1994.
Now, tell me why were Celts still in the 8 century living in huts live so many in Europe, backwards and illiterate? Why was it needed for Romans to "teach them civilization"?
Sire,

I told you before that there have been numerous studies that have shown Cavalli-Sforza's results to be accurate. Here is a large study done in 2012. Is that up to date enough for you?

Scroll down to Autosomal DNA and Admixture Analysis. There you will see a 1% figure for Berbers.

Now tell me why 80 percent of sub-Saharan Negroes live without electricity in the 21st Century. Why do Negroes refuse to learn about civilization?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_...
Barros Serrano

United States

#2359 Nov 19, 2012
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's the only LINKED, ATTRIBUTED evidence I SEE:
You're a liar, boy. You saw the evidence posted for DNA studies in the Maghreb, posted by several of us.

Afronazi LIAR!

You have lost every debate, boy, and so you lie... no surprise.

You worthless little dropped-out racist antisocial asshole.

I'll be driving through southern IL in a few weeks... let's do lunch, boy!
Barros Serrano

United States

#2360 Nov 19, 2012
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
First how about you respond to Bakari's countless request for more info on those two sources you posted to him about. He has repeatedly asked you to provide more information on them and you repeatedly ignored his requests.
Yet you, I, Garrig and Curious have all posted EVIDENCE to back up our VERIFIABLE statements, and these Afronazi scum are all denying any of it exists, lol. They didn't see it! LOL!!!

It is at the point where words are pointless. They simply need to have their heads cracked.
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#2361 Nov 19, 2012
LOL at the suck pupped, I am not going over this again and again,

THESE ARE THE NEW FINDINGS! I CAN'T HELP IT, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, NOW GO CRY A RIVER!

"Molecular biology has traced the ancestry of the Cro-Magnons deep into&#65279; tropical Africa, into the territory of the hypothetical African Eve"...

--Cro-Magnon:How the Ice Age Gave Birth to the First Modern Humans, By Brian Fagan,pg 89 (2010).

http://picturestack.com/87/826/UtrSchermafbeE...

--B. Lewis et al. 2008. Understanding Humans: Introduction to Physical Anthropology and Archaeology. p 297

(B) Relative frequencies of haplogroups L0, L1, L5, L2, L3, M, and N in different regions of Africa from mtDNA d-loop and mtDNA coding region SNPs from previous studies.

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/3/75...

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/3/75...

Two other variants (489C and 10873C) also support a single origin of haplogroup M in Africa.

http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v23/n4/abs/n...

In modern humans, this elongation is a pattern characteristic of warm-adapted populations, and this physique may be an early Cro-Magnon retention from African ancestors. Similar retentions may be observed in certain indices of facial shape ...

--Encyclopedia of Human Evolution and Prehistory: Second Edition by Eric Delson

http://picturestack.com/21/104/F6iSchermafbe8...

--Norman A. Johnson (2007) Darwinian Detectives: Revealing the Natural History of Genes and Genomes pg100

http://picturestack.com/173/146/zuuSchermafbe...

Y-DNA haplogroup A contains lineages deriving from the earliest branching in the human Y chromosome tree. The oldest branching event, separating A0-P305 and A1-V161, is thought to have occurred about 140,000 years ago. Haplogroups A0-P305, A1a-M31 and A1b1a-M14 are restricted to Africa and A1b1b-M32 is nearly restricted to Africa. The haplogroup that would be named A1b2 is composed of haplogroups B through T. The internal branching of haplogroup A1-V161 into A1a-M31, A1b1, and BT (A1b2) may have occurred about 110,000 years ago. A0-P305 is found at low frequency in Central and West Africa. A1a-M31 is observed in northwestern Africans; A1b1a-M14 is seen among click language-speaking Khoisan populations. A1b1b-M32 has a wide distribution including Khoisan speaking and East African populations, and scattered members on the Arabian Peninsula.

Y-DNA haplogroup B, like Y-DNA haplogroup A, is seen only in Africa and is scattered widely, but thinly across the continent. B is thought to have arisen approximately 50,000 years ago. These haplogroups have higher frequencies among hunter-gather groups in Ethiopia and Sudan, and are also seen among click language-speaking populations. The patchy, widespread distribution of these haplogroups may mean that they are remnants of ancient lineages that once had a much wider range but have been largely displaced by more recent population events.

Some geographic structuring is seen between the sub-groups B2a (B-M150) and B2b (B-M112). Sub-group B2b is seen among Central African Pygmies and South African Khoisan. Sub-group B2a is seen among Cameroonians, East Africans, and among South African Bantu speakers. B2a1a (B-M109) is the most commonly seen sub-group of B2a. About 2.3% of African-Americans belong to haplogroup B - with 1.5% of them belonging to the sub-group B2a1a.
fuckdat

United States

#2362 Nov 19, 2012
"Perhaps you would be so good as to explain to
the forum why North Africa being populated by
Caucasians is such a bizarre notion for Negroes
to accept. I find it quite logical considering the
huge physical barrier of the Sahara Desert. If
North Africa was inhabited by Negroes, where
did they all go? Did the Phoenicians kill them?
The Greeks? The Romans? The White trash
Ayrabs? What happened to the Negroes?" why is America and canada populated by caucasians when it was originaly native indians?
trollslayer

South Holland, IL

#2363 Nov 19, 2012
" Here we provide evidence that the Sahara was not an effective barrier and indicate how both animals and humans populated it during past humid phases. Analysis of the zoogeography of the Sahara shows that more animals crossed via this route than used the Nile corridor. "

Nick A. Drakea,1, Roger M. Blenchb, Simon J. Armitagec, Charlie S. Bristowd, and Kevin H. Whitee

Department of Geography, King’s College London, Strand, London WC2R 2LS, United Kingdom; bKay Williamson Educational Foundation, 8 Guest Road, Cambridge CB1 2AL, United Kingdom; cDepartment of Geography, Royal Holloway, University of London, Egham, Surrey TW20 0EX, United Kingdom; dSchool of Earth Sciences, Birkbeck College, University of London, Malet Street, London WC1E 7HX, United Kingdom; and eDepartment of Geography, University of Reading, Whiteknights, Reading RG6 6AB, United Kingdom
Edited by Ofer Bar-Yosef, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA, and approved November 22, 2010 (received for review August 23, 2010)
__________

so I guess some "afronuts" paid these guys off.
Bribed 'em into saying the Sahara was NOT a "barrier" for Africans to travel ALL OVER AFRICA.
__________

Note to trolls this is what we mean by scalable, verifiable OUTSIDE EVIDENCE VOID of silly opinions
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#2364 Nov 19, 2012
Almoravid wrote:
LOL at the suck pupped, I am not going over this again and again,
"Molecular biology has traced the ancestry of the Cro-Magnons deep into&#65279; tropical Africa, into the territory of the hypothetical African Eve"...
--Cro-Magnon:How the Ice Age Gave Birth to the First Modern Humans, By Brian Fagan,pg 89 (2010).
http://picturestack.com/87/826/UtrSchermafbeE...
--B. Lewis et al. 2008. Understanding Humans: Introduction to Physical Anthropology and Archaeology. p 297
(B) Relative frequencies of haplogroups L0, L1, L5, L2, L3, M, and N in different regions of Africa from mtDNA d-loop and mtDNA coding region SNPs from previous studies.
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/3/75...
Two other variants (489C and 10873C) also support a single origin of haplogroup M in Africa.
http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v23/n4/abs/n...
In modern humans, this elongation is a pattern characteristic of warm-adapted populations, and this physique may be an early Cro-Magnon retention from African ancestors. Similar retentions may be observed in certain indices of facial shape ....
Yet AGAIN you ignored the requests for more information on those two sources you posted for Bakari. He has repeatedly asked you to provide more information on them and you repeatedly ignored his requests.

Haplogroup M & N are NOT African, they Eurasian, their deepest and most diverse lineages are found in ASIA and show BACK migrations FROM Asia into Africa. Even the source you provided states as much, idiot.

"These 2 M and N haplogroup clades included a few Tanzanians (belonging to haplogroups M1, M, N1, and J), suggesting possible recent gene flow back into Africa...[...] Finally, our limited genetic data from Tanzanians belonging to haplogroups M1, N1, and J. mtDNAs of Tanzanians belonging to haplogroup M1 cluster with peoples from Oceania, whereas Tanzanian mtDNAs belonging to haplogroup N1 and J cluster with peoples of Middle Eastern and Eurasian origin. The presence of haplogroups N1 and J in Tanzania suggest ----> “BACK” <---- migrations from the Middle East or Eurasia into eastern Africa, which has been inferred from previous studies of other populations in eastern Africa (Kivisild et al. 2004)."
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/3/75...

Lastly Cro Magnon WERE NOT tropical African. They were Eurasian types & carried Eurasian Haplogroup markers like (mtDNA) N and (mtDNA) U5. Cro Magnon lived in COLD adapted regions of Eurasia and they already adapted NONE tropical features that were crucial for their survival cause tropical types COULD NOT survive in the Eurasian regions. Sub Saharan African tropical types clustered the FURTHEST from Cro Magnon types.

"Yet the D2 values in Table 3 show that it is slightly closer to Late Prehistoric Eurasia and that ---> IT IS THE FARTHEST <--- from the N ! g r - Co n, Natufians." ~ Brace

Brace confirms NORTHERN Europeans ( who happen to have the LEAST African admixture) to be the CLOSEST to Cro-Magnon types.

C. L. Brace:
"I was able to get just under 20 measurements on Cro Magnon of the two dozen data set I have used to compare populations in the world and the statistics showed convincingly that while Cro Magnon does not tie in with the recent French,-----> IT DOES INDEED TIE CLOSELY WITH OUR ENGLISH AND SCANDINAVIAN <---- samples." ~ C. L. Brace

"The team confirmed that, of modern people, Sardinians are Ötzi's closest relatives. But among the prehistoric quartet,Ötzi most closely resembled the farmers found in Bulgaria and Sweden, while the Swedish and Iberian hunter-gatherers [Cro-Magnon]---> LOOKED MORE LIKE PRESENT DAY NORTHERN EUROPEANS <---." ~ LiveScience

Now answer Bakari's request on those two sources you posted, dumbass.
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#2365 Nov 19, 2012
bozino wrote:
<quoted text>
Sire,
I told you before that there have been numerous studies that have shown Cavalli-Sforza's results to be accurate. Here is a large study done in 2012. Is that up to date enough for you?
Scroll down to Autosomal DNA and Admixture Analysis. There you will see a 1% figure for Berbers.
Now tell me why 80 percent of sub-Saharan Negroes live without electricity in the 21st Century. Why do Negroes refuse to learn about civilization?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_...
Yep,

E1b1b1b (E-M81) is the most common Y chromosome haplogroup in North Africa, dominated by its sub-clade E-M183. It is thought to have originated in North Afric. 5,600 years ago. The parent clade E1b1b originated in East Africa.[2

E-M81 is also quite common among North African groups. It reaches frequencies of up to 80 percent in some parts of the Maghreb. This includes the Saharawish for whose men Bosch et al.(2001) reports that approximately 76 percent are M81+.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E1b1b... (Y-DNA)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E1b1_ (Y-DNA)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E1b_ (Y-DNA)

Wikigames, good!

Isn't is odd, the MACK DADDY side came from East African and the Chicka side from Europe and Eurasia? Saqaliba? Dysgenics!:(

Berbers carry Y A-M31 and B-M109. I wonder where that came from ?

However, the absence of E-V68* and E-V257* in the Middle East (Table S2) makes a maritime spread between northern Africa and southern Europe a more plausible hypothesis. A detailed analysis of the Y chromosomal microsatellite variation associated with E-V68 and E-V257 could help in gaining a better understanding of the likely timing and place of origin of these two haplogroups.
Thanks to the newly characterized mutations, the large majority (34/45) of the chromosomes previously assigned to paragroup E-M35*[8] are now defined by unique mutations (Table S2). These findings will be of importance to those with research interests in human evolution [17]–[18] and forensic issues [19],[20].
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#2366 Nov 19, 2012
"Molecular biology has traced the ancestry of the Cro-Magnons deep into&#65279; tropical Africa, into the territory of the hypothetical African Eve"...

--Cro-Magnon:How the Ice Age Gave Birth to the First Modern Humans, By Brian Fagan,pg 89 (2010).

http://picturestack.com/87/826/UtrSchermafbeE...

--B. Lewis et al. 2008. Understanding Humans: Introduction to Physical Anthropology and Archaeology. p 297

(B) Relative frequencies of haplogroups L0, L1, L5, L2, L3, M, and N in different regions of Africa from mtDNA d-loop and mtDNA coding region SNPs from previous studies.

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/3/75...

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/3/75...

Two other variants (489C and 10873C) also support a single origin of haplogroup M in Africa.

http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v23/n4/abs/n...

In modern humans, this elongation is a pattern characteristic of warm-adapted populations, and this physique may be an early Cro-Magnon retention from African ancestors. Similar retentions may be observed in certain indices of facial shape ...

--Encyclopedia of Human Evolution and Prehistory: Second Edition by Eric Delson

http://picturestack.com/173/146/zuuSchermafbe...

--Norman A. Johnson (2007) Darwinian Detectives: Revealing the Natural History of Genes and Genomes pg100

http://picturestack.com/173/146/zuuSchermafbe ...

Y-DNA haplogroup A contains lineages deriving from the earliest branching in the human Y chromosome tree. The oldest branching event, separating A0-P305 and A1-V161, is thought to have occurred about 140,000 years ago. Haplogroups A0-P305, A1a-M31 and A1b1a-M14 are restricted to Africa and A1b1b-M32 is nearly restricted to Africa. The haplogroup that would be named A1b2 is composed of haplogroups B through T. The internal branching of haplogroup A1-V161 into A1a-M31, A1b1, and BT (A1b2) may have occurred about 110,000 years ago. A0-P305 is found at low frequency in Central and West Africa. A1a-M31 is observed in northwestern Africans; A1b1a-M14 is seen among click language-speaking Khoisan populations. A1b1b-M32 has a wide distribution including Khoisan speaking and East African populations, and scattered members on the Arabian Peninsula.

Y-DNA haplogroup B, like Y-DNA haplogroup A, is seen only in Africa and is scattered widely, but thinly across the continent. B is thought to have arisen approximately 50,000 years ago. These haplogroups have higher frequencies among hunter-gather groups in Ethiopia and Sudan, and are also seen among click language-speaking populations. The patchy, widespread distribution of these haplogroups may mean that they are remnants of ancient lineages that once had a much wider range but have been largely displaced by more recent population events.

Some geographic structuring is seen between the sub-groups B2a (B-M150) and B2b (B-M112). Sub-group B2b is seen among Central African Pygmies and South African Khoisan. Sub-group B2a is seen among Cameroonians, East Africans, and among South African Bantu speakers. B2a1a (B-M109) is the most commonly seen sub-group of B2a. About 2.3% of African-Americans belong to haplogroup B - with 1.5% of them belonging to the sub-group B2a1a.
fuckdat

United States

#2367 Nov 19, 2012
Egypt was black from its religion to its culture.Explain to me why the egyptians would worship a sun god? While the greeks worshiped human figures of themselves,why would the mayans worship the sun god? While the irish were bowing to celtic gods.Logic shows us cultures of people of colour worshiped the sun god because they belived they were favoured for substantial melinine in their skin as they saw their invaders skin peeling of and recive skin burns.The numbians from south sudan had such religions and culture outdating egypt and look at their skin(jet black).Do you actually belive that the numbians would let a natural enemy copy their culture or vice versa? NO.This people had to share the similarites with culture,appearence and beliefs.
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#2368 Nov 19, 2012
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet you, I, Garrig and Curious have all posted EVIDENCE to back up our VERIFIABLE statements, and these Afronazi scum are all denying any of it exists, lol. They didn't see it! LOL!!!
It is at the point where words are pointless. They simply need to have their heads cracked.
That dumbass is a lying fraud and a moron. Bakari has repeatedly asked him for more information on those two sources he posted to Bakari about and he has repeatedly ignored Bakari's requests. What an idiot.

He even exposed himself for being both "Atari" and "Almoravid". He forgot to change his posting name from "Almoravid" to "Atari" then stupidly posts "The post above is from Atari" while the post he is talking about clearly shows it was posted by "Almoravid"! LoL! He is an idiot and has ZERO understanding of human evolution and genetics. He is the same jackass who stupidly claimed the MALE lineage (Y-DNA) Haplogroup R is derived from the FEMALE lineage (mtDNA) Haplogroup M, then to add to his stupidity he turns around and actually tried to claim (Y-DNA) Haplogroup T and (Y-DNA) Haplogroup C are SPLIT from (Y-DNA) Haplogroup CT. Someone with NO understanding of the chronology of haplogroups, confuses MALE lineages from FEMALE lineages and who has no clue which haplogroup ancestor belongs to which haplogroups has no place talking about genetics.

“Obsidian Princess”

Level 8

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#2369 Nov 19, 2012
anon559 wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, i see your point and Bakari's point. But i have my own views and i feel that we shouldn't have to prove anything to any other race. We know that all civilizations inside of Africa were created by Africans, and we know that Africans are genetically the most diverse people on earth, but we [Africans] are all the same race none the less. I think we should focus on some of Bakari's ideas we need to let OUR people know that greatness comes from all over Africa, and we need to focus on your ideas also, which is not letting our people forget about Egypt. My idea is to come together as a whole, eastern African, western African, southern African, northern African, it doesn't matter.
i agree with your post but this is not what bakari fart azz is saying at all.
toadmann

Masontown, PA

#2370 Nov 19, 2012
youtube.com/watch... ………non virgin rant
trollslayer

South Holland, IL

#2372 Nov 19, 2012
fuckdat wrote:
"Perhaps you would be so good as to explain to
the forum why North Africa being populated by
Caucasians is such a bizarre notion for Negroes
to accept. I find it quite logical considering the
huge physical barrier of the Sahara Desert. If
North Africa was inhabited by Negroes, where
did they all go? Did the Phoenicians kill them?
The Greeks? The Romans? The White trash
Ayrabs? What happened to the Negroes?" why is America and canada populated by caucasians when it was originaly native indians?
__________

WARNING: Multiple-hydra-head TROLL ALERT
trollslayer

South Holland, IL

#2373 Nov 19, 2012
big mike M wrote:
Barros claims he's not a racist, yet he calls someone a "filthy stinking Muslim" how racist...-__-

big mike M......meet the real "baros meltdowndowm" below

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TA34MRH7FC20S ...

don't throw stones when ya' live..........
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
big mike M......meet the real "baros meltdowndowm" below
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TA34MRH7FC20S...
don't throw stones when ya' live..........
bump
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#2374 Nov 19, 2012
The earliest concrete evidence of Moslem presence in East Africa is the foundation of a mosque in Shanga on Pate Island where gold, silver and copper coins dated AD 830 were found during an excavation in the 1980's. The oldest intact building in East Africa is a functioning mosque at Kizimkazi in southern Zanzibar dated AD 1007. It appears that Islam was widespread in the Indian Ocean area by the 14th century. When Ibn Battuta from Maghreb visited the East African littoral in 1332 he reported that he felt at home because of Islam in the area. The coastal population was largely Moslem, and Arabic was the language of literature and trade. The whole of the Indian Ocean seemed to be a "Moslem sea". Moslems controlled the trade and established coastal settlements in South East Asia, India and East Africa.

Islam was spread mainly through trade activities along the East African coast, not through conquest and territorial expansion as was partly the case in West Africa, but remained an urban littoral phenomenon for a long time. When the violent Portugese intrusions in the coastal areas occured in the 16th century, Islam was already well established there and almost all the ruling families had ties of kinship with Arabia, Persia, India and even South East Asia owing to their maritime contacts and political connections with the northern and eastern parts of the Indian Ocean. In the end of the 17th and beginning of the 18th centuries the coastal Moslems managed to oust the Portugese with the help of Omani Arabs. These Arabs gradually increased their political influence until the end of the 19th century when European conquerors arrived at the coast of East Africa.

During the time when the Omanis dominated the coast politically, the spread of Islam intensified also in the interior of East Africa. Trade contacts with peoples in the interior, especially the Nyamwezi, gained importance and places like Tabora in Nyamwezi territory and Ujiji at Lake Tanganyika became important entrep"ts in the ever-increasing trade in slaves and ivory. Many chiefs, even in parts of Uganda, converted to Islam and cooperated with the coastal Moslems. Trade served to spread not only Islam, but also the language and culture we call Swahili. Before the establishment of German East Africa in the 1880's the influence of the Swahilis or coastal people was mainly limited to the areas along the caravan routes and around their destinations.

The great expansion of Islam in the interior of Tanganyika began during the German colonial era. After having conquered the coastal area the Germans started hiring Swahilis as civil servants thus creating a cadre of literate Swahilis who accompanied the Germans into the interior. These subordinate administrators, akida, and Moslem soldiers are an important part of the explanation of why Islam spread so much faster in the areas controlled by the Germans than in territories occupied by the British (Kenya and Uganda). The Germans established a government school system along the coast with Swahili as the language of instruction, in contrast to the missionary schools in the interior which used the vernaculars.

http://www.islamtanzania.org/hist.htm

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