Why do Afrocentrists obsess over Egypt and NON-African Civilizations

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“Africa”

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#1 Nov 9, 2012
...like the Olmecs, Moorish Europe, Greeks, India, Phoenicia, Sumeria, et al.? Why do they obsess over these non-African societies but not the ones of the interior?

I pretty much already know the answer to this question. I just want the senseless afrocentrists to come and explain themselves.

These fools obsess over Egypt and Non-African civilizations yet don't pay any lip service to any actual AFRICAN civilizations of the interior, like the Yoruba and Hausa states, the Swahili States, Kanem, Luba Kingdoms, Kongo Kingdom, Mutapa Empire, or any of the rest.

They claim they Euros are trying to "hide" or "take away" their history, yet they show no concern for societies IN Africa that everyone already KNOWS was Black.

They don't even mention these societies, yet obsess over anything that not non-African while simultaneously proclaiming that someone is trying to "steal" African history. These people don't know the first thing about actual African history.

Personally, I feel that it is because they feel that African history is inferior to other peoples' history, so seek to implant themselves on other peoples' history instead of embracing their own.

They truly feel inferior to other groups and thus, wish to seek solace in stealing someones else's.

If this statement is made in error, I would like all those that spend all their time on the Moor, Olmec, Greece, and other these other afrocentric posts.

While you're at it, for all those that seem to think that AA's seem to have some type of cultural or ancestral relationship with Ancient Egyptians, I would like for you too to lay out your arguments.

I wish for the matter to finally be settled.

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LION

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#2 Nov 9, 2012
interior africa?

dogon
gede
erado
zimabwe
and more great west and sout african kingdoms.

“Africa”

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#5 Nov 9, 2012
Enemy Mobile Suit wrote:
Shut up fool ask why whites created a field of science dedicated to it.
<quoted text>
Do I look like some impressionable follower like you?

Do I look like I care about White peoples' obsessions?

This about BLACK peoples' senseless obsessions.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#6 Nov 9, 2012
Enemy Mobile Suit wrote:
Ancient Egyptains and Moors ARE black history. Black Africans were involved in both.
Egyptians have nothing to do with AA's, yet they obsess over them more than any other African group simply because white people have so in the past.

A bunch of followers.

Moors were just Muslims; Black, White, Arab, Berber, etc. Moors in Europe had nothing to do with what was going on in Africa. When they got kicked out of Europe, they came and destroyed African civilizations. They didn't build anything in their place, they just destroyed what took centuries for Blacks to manifest, and you impotent fools wanna jock these peoples' d*cks like some horny teenage school girls.

So explain to me why you obsess over non-African civilizations over African ones, and the only African one you give a damn about is Egypt?

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#8 Nov 9, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
...like the Olmecs, Moorish Europe, Greeks, India, Phoenicia, Sumeria, et al.? Why do they obsess over these non-African societies but not the ones of the interior?
I pretty much already know the answer to this question. I just want the senseless afrocentrists to come and explain themselves.
These fools obsess over Egypt and Non-African civilizations yet don't pay any lip service to any actual AFRICAN civilizations of the interior, like the Yoruba and Hausa states, the Swahili States, Kanem, Luba Kingdoms, Kongo Kingdom, Mutapa Empire, or any of the rest.
They claim they Euros are trying to "hide" or "take away" their history, yet they show no concern for societies IN Africa that everyone already KNOWS was Black.
They don't even mention these societies, yet obsess over anything that not non-African while simultaneously proclaiming that someone is trying to "steal" African history. These people don't know the first thing about actual African history.
Personally, I feel that it is because they feel that African history is inferior to other peoples' history, so seek to implant themselves on other peoples' history instead of embracing their own.
They truly feel inferior to other groups and thus, wish to seek solace in stealing someones else's.
If this statement is made in error, I would like all those that spend all their time on the Moor, Olmec, Greece, and other these other afrocentric posts.
While you're at it, for all those that seem to think that AA's seem to have some type of cultural or ancestral relationship with Ancient Egyptians, I would like for you too to lay out your arguments.
I wish for the matter to finally be settled.
You are a Liar! Blacks were in Europe and the Americas and started many civilizations all over the world. You are a faker, a white man who hides behind the picture of an African you found on the internet!

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#10 Nov 9, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>
Egyptians have nothing to do with AA's, yet they obsess over them more than any other African group simply because white people have so in the past.
A bunch of followers.
Moors were just Muslims; Black, White, Arab, Berber, etc. Moors in Europe had nothing to do with what was going on in Africa. When they got kicked out of Europe, they came and destroyed African civilizations. They didn't build anything in their place, they just destroyed what took centuries for Blacks to manifest, and you impotent fools wanna jock these peoples' d*cks like some horny teenage school girls.
So explain to me why you obsess over non-African civilizations over African ones, and the only African one you give a damn about is Egypt?
True, the orgins of AAs lies in West Africa. And there is plenty history and culture thre that is overlooked in claiming the Moors and the Olmecs etc. It's just plain stupid.

“Africa”

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#12 Nov 9, 2012
Enemy Mobile Suit wrote:
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Look the other crap you claim is debatable but we can claim Moors
The so called "Moors" in Iberia were just Muslims, most of whom were not even Black. Most were indigenous Iberian converts, some Arab, most Berber. The pictures I've seen were almost all pale-face, so I don't know what makes you think you can "claim" them as a whole, and why would you? I haven't even seen any evidence that most of the scholars and intellectuals were even Black. Not like in Africa among African Muslims.
Enemy Mobile Suit wrote:
and Ancient Egyptians. You weren't there I could make the argument that there could have very well been black Vikings. Why not Vikings were thousands of miles away from home.
You make that senseless self hating argument unless you can provide some credible evidence to back it up.
Enemy Mobile Suit wrote:
I always talk about ancient Africa. I'm aware of a civilizations in Africa that hav not even been studied.
Which ones?
Enemy Mobile Suit wrote:
I am also certain sub Africans traveled the world before they encountered Europeans and Arabs.
Post your sources.

“Africa”

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#13 Nov 9, 2012
Mystery Solver wrote:
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You are a Liar! Blacks were in Europe and the Americas and started many civilizations all over the world. You are a faker, a white man who hides behind the picture of an African you found on the internet!
Go choke on glass shards, you impotent mule. What the f*ck is that ridiculous thing in YOUR avatar>>>>??

...that you're hiding behind.

Blacks were in Europe since ancient times, but they didn't create any civilizations there nor anywhere else outside of Africa, except Arabia possibly.

They were certainly not in any part of the Americas, and if you wish to debate it, then please furnish every ounce of evidence you have in your arsenal.

This should be fun.

“Africa”

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Oakland

#14 Nov 9, 2012
Enemy Mobile Suit wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't say obsess I would say reclaiming our history. It has the only standing world wonder. You are not denying us that part of our history.
No, you people obsess over it like school girls obsess over gossip. It's a damn cult. And Egypt is not part of AA history, which is specifically in Africa SOUTH of the Sahara, not Egypt. You cannot "reclaim" anything that was never yours.

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#15 Nov 9, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>
Go choke on glass shards, you impotent mule. What the f*ck is that ridiculous thing in YOUR avatar>>>>??
...that you're hiding behind.
Blacks were in Europe since ancient times, but they didn't create any civilizations there nor anywhere else outside of Africa, except Arabia possibly.
They were certainly not in any part of the Americas, and if you wish to debate it, then please furnish every ounce of evidence you have in your arsenal.
This should be fun.
It will be fun to watch your lying ass trip all over yourself.

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TR88M4HB7DVNO...

Why would a real Black man want to deny the history and triumphs of his own people?

You probably some white redneck queer who come on here feeming for some Black dick!

“Obsidian Princess”

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louisiana

#16 Nov 9, 2012
the real question is, why are these people so obsessed with us?

i love that we are interested in the kemetic heritage but wish we not be so romanticized by it. we need to study the history, geography and the people of ancient kemetic society; thoroughly.

its stupid to assume that we should not be interested or even "obsessed" with an east african civilization just because our african ancestral lineage is from west africa!

i can find a love for greek history, or hindu history; its no ones business what i choose to find interest in and yes, we should study west africa with vigor but we don't have to; we can just choose to focus on ancient kemet. and we -should- focus on them.

its funny to see how angry this tends to make *some* people, LOL!! well you'll just be angry..

there is an ancient link between east and west africa anyways.

and like someone said up above, they NEVER say anything about europeans making a science out of the kemetic paradigm; they never complain about movies such as "the mummy returns" that europeanizes ancient kemet....

they just have a problem with blk americans being interested in it. dorn hatefull racists!! anyway, who cares how you feel?

i personally suggest that blk americans choose a kemetic sur-name....i have a kemetic sur-name that i only used around certain people.

stay tuned haters!

“Obsidian Princess”

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Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#17 Nov 9, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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The so called "Moors" in Iberia were just Muslims.
not all moors were muslims; some were christians and some praticed their traditional ATR's.

you have NOTHING TO DO WITH AMERICA. so why are you here?

“Obsidian Princess”

Level 8

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#18 Nov 9, 2012
FACT; the MOORS were over here in america and new about the americas for hundreds of years. they helped europeans navigate to these lands.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#19 Nov 9, 2012
Mystery Solver wrote:
<quoted text>
It will be fun to watch your lying ass trip all over yourself.
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TR88M4HB7DVNO...
Why would a real Black man want to deny the history and triumphs of his own people?
You probably some white redneck queer who come on here feeming for some Black dick!
That link just goes to the main AA forum page. What is the point of it?

First of all, I deny no Black history. I simply refuse to choke down the fantasies you all seem to down with ease and without question.

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#20 Nov 9, 2012
dragonpat wrote:
<quoted text>
not all moors were muslims; some were christians and some praticed their traditional ATR's.
you have NOTHING TO DO WITH AMERICA. so why are you here?
Bakarass is a lying white fraud! Don't believe him!

“Freedom”

Level 8

Since: Jan 10

United States

#21 Nov 9, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
...like the Olmecs, Moorish Europe, Greeks, India, Phoenicia, Sumeria, et al.? Why do they obsess over these non-African societies but not the ones of the interior?
I pretty much already know the answer to this question. I just want the senseless afrocentrists to come and explain themselves.
These fools obsess over Egypt and Non-African civilizations yet don't pay any lip service to any actual AFRICAN civilizations of the interior, like the Yoruba and Hausa states, the Swahili States, Kanem, Luba Kingdoms, Kongo Kingdom, Mutapa Empire, or any of the rest.
They claim they Euros are trying to "hide" or "take away" their history, yet they show no concern for societies IN Africa that everyone already KNOWS was Black.
They don't even mention these societies, yet obsess over anything that not non-African while simultaneously proclaiming that someone is trying to "steal" African history. These people don't know the first thing about actual African history.
Personally, I feel that it is because they feel that African history is inferior to other peoples' history, so seek to implant themselves on other peoples' history instead of embracing their own.
They truly feel inferior to other groups and thus, wish to seek solace in stealing someones else's.
If this statement is made in error, I would like all those that spend all their time on the Moor, Olmec, Greece, and other these other afrocentric posts.
While you're at it, for all those that seem to think that AA's seem to have some type of cultural or ancestral relationship with Ancient Egyptians, I would like for you too to lay out your arguments.
I wish for the matter to finally be settled.
Most are NOT obsessed over Egypt but are arguing that Egypt was NOT a Middle Eastern or Europe PPL Nation. Funny how you claim Afrocentrics are stealing History but disregard the fact Eurocentrics have for decades claimed Egyptians were either Europeans or Middle Eastern which kinda contradicts ur statement of non-African History superiority. If non-Africans felt their own History was superior, why would they need to claim a Civilization which evolved within' Africa?? Eurocentrics have done the same thing you accuses Afrocenetics of doing & that why is so called Afrocentric discuss Egypt. It's that simple!

“Obsidian Princess”

Level 8

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#23 Nov 9, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you people obsess over it like school girls obsess over gossip. It's a damn cult. And Egypt is not part of AA history, which is specifically in Africa SOUTH of the Sahara, not Egypt. You cannot "reclaim" anything that was never yours.
whats it you? we feel we need to "reclaim" ancient kemet all we want. just stay mad but this time please shyt in your pants while you are fuming!

ancient kemet can be ours cause first of all we have african lineage and kemet was an african civilization. just like east africans claim descedancy from biblical characters that never even existed or can't be proven to have existed but yet and still, they made a culture out of doing so. the yoruba claim descendancy from "aduduwa" a mythological character who some claim to have traveled from the so-called mid-east.

if we want to study ancient kemet and then make a culture out of it here among ourselves, we have every right to do this. i know people who can read, and teach METU NETER.

SHYT YOUR PANTS BUDDY!

“Obsidian Princess”

Level 8

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#24 Nov 9, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>
That link just goes to the main AA forum page. What is the point of it?
First of all, I deny no Black history. I simply refuse to choke down the fantasies you all seem to down with ease and without question.
your not our people so don't worry about our "fantasies." worry about your own east african people.

ancient kemet for life.
abc

United States

#25 Nov 9, 2012
What else can they talk about? Negros have achieved nothing. Just look at Africa. It's look like Africa still is around 10 B.C.

“Freedom”

Level 8

Since: Jan 10

United States

#26 Nov 9, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
...like the Olmecs, Moorish Europe, Greeks, India, Phoenicia, Sumeria, et al.? Why do they obsess over these non-African societies but not the ones of the interior?
I pretty much already know the answer to this question. I just want the senseless afrocentrists to come and explain themselves.
These fools obsess over Egypt and Non-African civilizations yet don't pay any lip service to any actual AFRICAN civilizations of the interior, like the Yoruba and Hausa states, the Swahili States, Kanem, Luba Kingdoms, Kongo Kingdom, Mutapa Empire, or any of the rest.
They claim they Euros are trying to "hide" or "take away" their history, yet they show no concern for societies IN Africa that everyone already KNOWS was Black.
They don't even mention these societies, yet obsess over anything that not non-African while simultaneously proclaiming that someone is trying to "steal" African history. These people don't know the first thing about actual African history.
Personally, I feel that it is because they feel that African history is inferior to other peoples' history, so seek to implant themselves on other peoples' history instead of embracing their own.
They truly feel inferior to other groups and thus, wish to seek solace in stealing someones else's.
If this statement is made in error, I would like all those that spend all their time on the Moor, Olmec, Greece, and other these other afrocentric posts.
While you're at it, for all those that seem to think that AA's seem to have some type of cultural or ancestral relationship with Ancient Egyptians, I would like for you too to lay out your arguments.
I wish for the matter to finally be settled.
Another thing, The Moors were Berbers & most Berbers are Afro-Asiatic speakers. The Berbers are said to be related to Cro-Magnon who mostly migrated around the Mediterranean, even as far as The Atlantic Ocean.

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