Why do so many black girls claim to be half-native american?

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Every black girl I meet claims to be part of this tribe or that tribe. This can't be true. How can every black girl be half native american? Even the ones that look staraight African, they all say they are half or part native. Why do black girls lie? Black males don't do this, but only the women do. This is impossible.

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Every black girl I meet claims to be part of this tribe or that tribe. This can't be true. How can every black girl be half native american? Even the ones that look staraight African, they all say they are half or part native. Why do black girls lie? Black males don't do this, but only the women do. This is impossible.
American women regardless of race have always had this fascination with wanting to be perceived as "unique". I have encountered numerous White women who actually claim to have Native blood in them, and they're the same people who systematically killed them! LOL! Oddly enough if you've ever noticed, mixed AA women almost never brag about it because they hate being perceived as "less Black" than other sistaz. You rarely hear hispanic women bragging about their heritage either unless you ask them. In my experience, American women who view themselves as too plain usually pluck some distant relative off their family tree and claim they are half this and that but they clearly aren't. If a sistah takes a shower and comes out with her hair looking like "Rilo" from Sanford & Son she obviously ain't all that Indian.

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Perhaps, people need to see the series referenced in this link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/10/arts/televi...

the PBS series, Faces of America, is a real eye opener to many who claim 'roots' that later DNA testing proves are nothing near what they thought....

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/

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Perhaps, people need to see the series referenced in this link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/10/arts/televi...
the PBS series, Faces of America, is a real eye opener to many who claim 'roots' that later DNA testing proves are nothing near what they thought....
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/
I seen the whole series and i was right before it aired. I`ve been saying since Jr high that "It`s impossible for so many AA`s to have Native American blood." Here`s why?

#1 Minimal to no interaction of a big enough Slave/escaped slave and native population to breed.

#2 Anglo-Americans had greater access to the natives and mated with them more than AA`s.

#3 Not all Natives were ok with mixing and were also racist to preserve their dying culture and population.

#4 With the Relocation and low population of the natives when slavery ended it would make no sense for AA`s to be so mixed with Native blood when the Natives got relocated West and AA`s moved North. AA`s did`nt start moving west in large number until the 1930`s - 1970`s. If you went to a LAUSD school then this is taught in History class.

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I seen the whole series and i was right before it aired. I`ve been saying since Jr high that "It`s impossible for so many AA`s to have Native American blood." Here`s why?
#1 Minimal to no interaction of a big enough Slave/escaped slave and native population to breed.
#2 Anglo-Americans had greater access to the natives and mated with them more than AA`s.
#3 Not all Natives were ok with mixing and were also racist to preserve their dying culture and population.
#4 With the Relocation and low population of the natives when slavery ended it would make no sense for AA`s to be so mixed with Native blood when the Natives got relocated West and AA`s moved North. AA`s did`nt start moving west in large number until the 1930`s - 1970`s. If you went to a LAUSD school then this is taught in History class.
AA's in general are 80% African, 10% Native American, and 10% Native American. That's the word on the street. LOL

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typo: 10% African, 10% Native American (Asian), and 10% Caucasian.
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Philly- Thank you for your commentary. White people also do it. i also find it ironic that Mexicans ARE native americans but they downplay their Indian heritage.

I would say the average AA has less than 10% Native blood though.

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Philly- Thank you for your commentary. White people also do it. i also find it ironic that Mexicans ARE native americans but they downplay their Indian heritage.
I would say the average AA has less than 10% Native blood though.
Well, needless to say we all got more honkey in us than we would care to admit, and that's the truth of the matter. Ain't none of us gonna talk about their azzes during the family BBQ, and vice-versa with Whites. LOL

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Some Caribbean blacks over in the UK do it too, only they claim East Indian. Funny thing is, the people who do this never look anything other than black - they're usually dark skinned with kinky hair. It doesn't really make sense, as while there are some East Indians in the Caribbean, there aren't nearly enough to make so many blacks mixed. Plus they mostly stick to their own. Caribbean people who are mixed with East Indian usually look it, and tend not to brag really.

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Well, needless to say we all got more honkey in us than we would care to admit, and that's the truth of the matter. Ain't none of us gonna talk about their azzes during the family BBQ, and vice-versa with Whites. LOL
I heard somewhere the whole AA's claiming Indian thing started with some mulattoes who were ashamed of being half white, so some passed as half Native.

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I don't know why they would WANT to.

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I heard somewhere the whole AA's claiming Indian thing started with some mulattoes who were ashamed of being half white, so some passed as half Native.
"Truth" in all honesty in the old days of the South (like 60 years ago LOL) there was so much IR freakin' going on that no one can keep track of that stuff! Lemme tell you, one side of my family is from Mississippi and they are mostly dark and pride themselves on that. My moms side is from S. Carolina and they are mostly lightskinned. A couple of months ago my uncle on my dads side died and I was at my aunts house going through his old pictures. Man, the dayum darkskinned side of my family is maaadddddd friggin mullatocized! Way more than my mother side is IMO! My fathers family are descendants of sharecroppers and apparently they were getting buckwild with some White people because a good deal of them were indishtingushable from Whites, especially in those old B & W photos.

When I started asking my Aunt who all the "White" people were, she was like "Oh, that's your great-aunt, and this is your grand-father, and this is my mom..." She started to tell me that the family got split up they were all light & bright, but some were comfortable and lived in the Black community, while some others apparently "passed" into White society. Naturally, they got to beefing and stuff because if you were passing you couldn't speak to your family anymore, because if the "other side" found out they could kill you or burn you house down etc.

So as to make sure they were accepted, all of the women on my fathers side who were light made sure they married dark men. To this very day the women on my fathers side can't stand lightskinned dudes...but it started with their ancestors who were mostly biracial and whatnot! But it just goes to show the kinda stuff that went on in those days. People passed all the time, and the White community absorbed a lot of Black blood, but obviously the Black community got the majority of the mixed people. That's why I said we mostly have cracker in us, but we won't admit it for obvious reasons.
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It doesn't really make sense, as while there are some East Indians in the Caribbean, there aren't nearly enough to make so many blacks mixed.
Actually if you count from the beginning of Indians being brought to the islands which is from the 1850s, there is actually a good number that were there, so it isn't surprising if the blacks have Indian. I mean look at people like Beenie Man, I can tell he has Indian in him cause you can tell in the eyes. Also since Indians are also a black/brown race, mixing with West African descent black/brown people means the complexion is maintained...only some features are switched around
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Every black girl I meet claims to be part of this tribe or that tribe. This can't be true. How can every black girl be half native american? Even the ones that look staraight African, they all say they are half or part native. Why do black girls lie? Black males don't do this, but only the women do. This is impossible.
Most are due to self-hatred going on in the States, even amongst 'whites'. By the old Amerindian blood rule they wouldn't be considered Amerindian or even partly Amerindian.'Zamboes' & 'mestizoes' exist only as a direct blood lineage on one side.

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Actually if you count from the beginning of Indians being brought to the islands which is from the 1850s, there is actually a good number that were there, so it isn't surprising if the blacks have Indian. I mean look at people like Beenie Man, I can tell he has Indian in him cause you can tell in the eyes. Also since Indians are also a black/brown race, mixing with West African descent black/brown people means the complexion is maintained...only some features are switched around
Yeah, some Caribbean are mixed with Indian, mostly in Trinidad and Guyana, but most of the people who claim in come from islands where this didn't happen so much, as the Africans were the majority, and outnumbered the Indians.
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Yeah, some Caribbean are mixed with Indian, mostly in Trinidad and Guyana, but most of the people who claim in come from islands where this didn't happen so much, as the Africans were the majority, and outnumbered the Indians.
People put out Trinidad and Guyana simply because they have 40%+ populations of pure blooded Indians still...however if we're talking about how widespread Indian genes are, it is there in good amount in heavily African islands like Jamaica, Barbados, Antigua, etc.

Anyway back to main topic, this is a regular thing with people wanting to be unique. Back in high school in Miami, about half the school walked around fronting like they were from New York...I mean these people would choose any hook and cranny method of claiming Bronx/Brooklyn/Queens etc. I knew this one chick who used to talk shit about Miami all the time cause she was in NY till 12 or something, she'd say we don't know how to dress, how to dance, etc (like really? MIAMI???) Anyway now her ass went to some uni in NYC and I see pics she puts up on fb with captions like "Getting down Miami style"....can't help but laugh at that shit.
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Oh another funny ass thing I've seen with people claiming something they are barely connected to...is when it comes to claiming a Caribbean connection. There are people born in the US that are half-Jamaican and have no knowledge of their Jamaican side whatsoever (father gone, never been to the island, etc) but they'll put on a fake patois like it's all good. I've seen people getting called out for it by people actually from there, funny shit

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I seen the whole series and i was right before it aired. I`ve been saying since Jr high that "It`s impossible for so many AA`s to have Native American blood." Here`s why?
#1 Minimal to no interaction of a big enough Slave/escaped slave and native population to breed.
#2 Anglo-Americans had greater access to the natives and mated with them more than AA`s.
#3 Not all Natives were ok with mixing and were also racist to preserve their dying culture and population.
#4 With the Relocation and low population of the natives when slavery ended it would make no sense for AA`s to be so mixed with Native blood when the Natives got relocated West and AA`s moved North. AA`s did`nt start moving west in large number until the 1930`s - 1970`s. If you went to a LAUSD school then this is taught in History class.
People need to look into African American history to see why so many Black Americans claim "Native" ancestry today, because it is explained there. For many, its not out of shame for their blackness. People now always talk about how White men raped Black women, but during slavery miscegenation was illegal and a Black woman would behurt/sold/ in trouble if she ever told anyone that her childrens father was a White man - any White man. Thats where the whole "he's half Indian" comes in. Its pretty well known that many slave women, ashamed of having children with a White man (or proof of being raped by one) would just say that their child was "half Indian". Plus, Indians were seen as better than Whites by many Black people. They fought with Whites and were "strong" and "proud" people. Saying one was half Indian was a way to have some of the characteristics associated with Indians during the time..and its just been passed down in history.

I know people who honestly thought they had Native ancestry, only to find out it was White. Thats why, its not what some here are assuming it is.

Its a sign of the shame many Black women felt when having mixed kids with their oppressor.

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People need to look into African American history to see why so many Black Americans claim "Native" ancestry today, because it is explained there. For many, its not out of shame for their blackness. People now always talk about how White men raped Black women, but during slavery miscegenation was illegal and a Black woman would behurt/sold/ in trouble if she ever told anyone that her childrens father was a White man - any White man. Thats where the whole "he's half Indian" comes in. Its pretty well known that many slave women, ashamed of having children with a White man (or proof of being raped by one) would just say that their child was "half Indian". Plus, Indians were seen as better than Whites by many Black people. They fought with Whites and were "strong" and "proud" people. Saying one was half Indian was a way to have some of the characteristics associated with Indians during the time..and its just been passed down in history.
I know people who honestly thought they had Native ancestry, only to find out it was White. Thats why, its not what some here are assuming it is.
Its a sign of the shame many Black women felt when having mixed kids with their oppressor.
That's what I always thought. Contrary to what some black men believe nowadays, most enslaved African women did NOT worship white men, nor wish to reproduce with them, therefore, those who were raped, or sometimes the products of rape, were often ashamed of this, so it makes sense that they would pretend the admixture was Indian rather than white.
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I have native american family members that passed away but it's not in my bloodline.What annoys me is when blacks have nice hair or nice features they always ask if they are part native american.

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