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Do Egyptian Consider Themselves To Be Black/Africans

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Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#2 Oct 12, 2010
Iwillbethejudge wrote:
Egypt is in Africa so do Egyptian identify as Black. If not why not? After all Egypt is in Africa
Egypt identifies as African. That is obvious. But, that does not mean "black".

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#3 Oct 12, 2010
Egypt is also pretty much the cultural leader of Arab world becuase of it's media, film and TV industry etc.
Sick of it all

Spartanburg, SC

#4 Oct 12, 2010
Iwillbethejudge wrote:
Egypt is in Africa so do Egyptian identify as Black. If not why not? After all Egypt is in Africa
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Feel free to sort them into whatever race basket you want.

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#5 Oct 12, 2010
Iwillbethejudge wrote:
Egypt is in Africa so do Egyptian identify as Black. If not why not? After all Egypt is in Africa
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_there_black_Egy...

The original North Africans had cinnamon brown skin, before the European and Middle Eastern people came. Look at the hieroglyphics. They were not white people, sorry. Not all Africans have very dark skin. However, you now have some that are white, brown, and other races. Think of America, the Native Americans were the original habitats, but now you have White, Black, Latinos, Asians, Polynesians, and mixed races who are all Americans. When we eliminate racial prejudice and except the fact that all races on this planet contribute greatly to the past and now, this would not be such a sensitive topic for discussion. Seek the truth and set yourself free!
Primrose

Kampala, Uganda

#6 Oct 13, 2010
Sick of it all wrote:
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Feel free to sort them into whatever race basket you want.
I appreciate the text.However,promoting race and finding out about race should be treated differently.

The Egyptians as we know them today are not the ancient Egyptians of then.Fossil studies of the Kings who were mummified have shown the ancient Egyptians to have been black.It appears that later,Egypt became a multi racial society with alot of Arabic and white races coming in by way of Greece,the roman Empire etc.The Egyptians as we know them today are a mixture of the later migrations.The ancient Egyptians migrated much earlier out of Egypt for some biblical reasons but others are not quite well known yet.
Horst

Burghaun, Germany

#7 Oct 13, 2010
Well, I just got back from Egypt a few weeks ago. The Egyptians are a rainbow of people . You can find them from blond and pail to dark black . They consider them self as Arabians, some Africans, because they are on the African Continent. But they are all Egyptians. By the way, verry nice and friendly people.
Africa Speaks

Kampala, Uganda

#8 Oct 15, 2010
Iwillbethejudge wrote:
Egypt is in Africa so do Egyptian identify as Black. If not why not? After all Egypt is in Africa
The Egyptian story is interesting.Coz it was the cradle of civilisation,the black dominance in Egypt was down played.The media always showed a black slave class serving a white master class.However fossil studies and 3 D facial reconstruction have showed that all Pharoahs and queens were infact Black.The society had dominant black and very brown as you see Africans today.There was also presence of Arabic as we know it today.But to justify slave trade and racism these stories were over turned.Potraits of whoever made sence to the world population was turned.For instance it is said that the first mouldings and art of Jesus seen in Rome and spain show that they were Black!!Many reasons drove the ancient Egyptians out of Egypt.Those who stayed mixed up with The Romanians,The Greeks and Arab traders hence creating what you see today,an Arab Greek looking Egyptian.And thats cool by us.
MiMi

North Charleston, SC

#9 Jan 14, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
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Egypt identifies as African. That is obvious. But, that does not mean "black".
they take pride in being African but they are not black. Not all africans look black, some of the natives don't even look like the stereotypical African Americans. Very different and African Americans are ignorant and don't educate themselves on their own people, and the continent in general.

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#11 Jan 19, 2013
Don5163 wrote:
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http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_there_black_Egy...
The original North Africans had cinnamon brown skin, before the European and Middle Eastern people came.
Dang! "cinamon" brown"? Shucks, dude. That's a new one on me.
Don5163 wrote:
<quoted text>Look at the hieroglyphics. They were not white people, sorry. Not all Africans have very dark skin. However, you now have some that are white, brown, and other races.
When a white person joins our community as for example when he becomes a Muslim, we do not set him aside due to his complexion. Islam is not and has never been racist like hristianity. So when whites come among us, we acept him and treat just like any other African or Muslim. As long as he speaks our language and practice our religion and other cultures, we never even notice that he is white. So, yes, we do have white skin people among us. But they are not white because they have adopted African/Arab/Islamic culture. And we never think about their white skin or blue eyes. They would be hurt and offended if anyone even so mention as mentions it.

For example, some of my best and closest frieds are lebanese or Syrians. Many Lebaonese and Syrians have white complexion. But every time I see one, he is always mixed among black skin people. In other words, they are one of us by virual of 100% acceptance as friends and brothers. They think and act like us. All teir friedns are black. I do not think they een know they are white. In fact, I am certain they did not know it until some white or black racist told them they are white.
Don5163 wrote:
<quoted text>Think of America, the Native Americans were the original habitats, but now you have White, Black, Latinos, Asians, Polynesians, and mixed races who are all Americans.
The dumbest and stupidest mistake you can make in this context is to compare Africa/Arabia to America. America is stolen from the Natives. Africa is the origin of all humanity. Big diference.

Don5163 wrote:
<quoted text>When we eliminate racial prejudice and except the fact that all races on this planet contribute greatly to the past and now, this would not be such a sensitive topic for discussion. Seek the truth and set yourself free!
This is an issue because it comes from the minds of the racist white man. It is not an issue in Africa or any of the Muslim countries because all humanity comes from Africa. And, Islam specifically abolished white racism from day one. In fact, tere was no racism until pagans and Christians invented it.

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Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#12 Jan 19, 2013
Primrose wrote:
<quoted text>I appreciate the text.However,promoting race and finding out about race should be treated differently.
The Egyptians as we know them today are not the ancient Egyptians of then.Fossil studies of the Kings who were mummified have shown the ancient Egyptians to have been black.
Correction: SOME of them have been "black". But to be intellectually honest, you know and I know that the Egyptians painted themselves as black AND white:

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http://www.ancientegypt.us/

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Notice that the slaves are white or fair complexion: http://www.google.com/imgres...

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Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#13 Jan 19, 2013
Continued from above...

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[QUOTE who=Primerose]<quoted text>It appears that later,Egypt became a multi racial society with alot of Arabic and white races coming in by way of Greece,the roman Empire etc.[/QUOTE]

And where did the Greeks comes from? Alexander the Great claimed to have had African descent. So, the picture I am getting that the Greaks came from Africa. In ancient history, they cliamed Arican descent. So they first appear in history as returning to Africa. But obviously at some point in prehistory They came rom Africa. All humanity came from Africa. And no one could haqve claimed any kind of civilization except from Africa.

[QUOTE who=Primerose]<quoted text>The Egyptians as we know them today are a mixture of the later migrations.[/QUOTE]

Egyptians have always been milple complexion as far back as we have anu evidence. But I bet they did not call it "mixed". "Mixed" is a racist concept that could have only come from white racists.

[QUOTE who=Primerose]<quoted text>The ancient Egyptians migrated much earlier out of Egypt for some biblical reasons but others are not quite well known yet.[/QUOTE]

The first man is known as Adam. e walked from Ethiopia to Mecca, Saudi Arabia where he built the Kabah as a Shrine to GOD. It also says in the Bible that he was kicked out of the Garden of Eden due to his sins. And it also says in the Bible tat the Garden of Eden is Africa.(Ge3nesis 2:8-17)

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Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#14 Jan 19, 2013
Horst wrote:
Well, I just got back from Egypt a few weeks ago. The Egyptians are a rainbow of people . You can find them from blond and pail to dark black . They consider them self as Arabians, some Africans, because they are on the African Continent. But they are all Egyptians. By the way, verry nice and friendly people.
Thank you. Egyptians have always been this way. Those myths about racial migrations are all raist lies.

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Saint Louis, MO

#15 Jan 19, 2013
I meant to say racist lies.

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#16 Jan 19, 2013
Africa Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>The Egyptian story is interesting.Coz it was the cradle of civilisation,the black dominance in Egypt was down played.
Right. And it is equally racist to claim "black dominance". The Egyptians never claimed any such racist non-sense.
Africa Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>The media always showed a black slave class serving a white master class.However fossil studies and 3 D facial reconstruction have showed that all Pharoahs and queens were infact Black.
Well, what about Cleopatra? She looks awfully white to me:

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Africa Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>There was also presence of Arabic as we know it today.But to justify slave trade and racism these stories were over turned.PoMany reasons drove the ancient Egyptians out of Egypt.
Now that is a stupid racist lie. There is absolutely no evidence at all anywhere in history that Egyptians were even forced out of Egypt.
Africa Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>Those who stayed mixed up with The Romanians,The Greeks and Arab traders hence creating what you see today,an Arab Greek looking Egyptian.And thats cool by us.
In Egypt, black complexion people are a very small minority for whatever reasons. But, thisw dioes not mean that the non-blacks are "mixed" with Roamns and Greeks. Roman and Greek influence in Egypt is even a small minority than the black complexion.

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Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#17 Jan 19, 2013
MiMi wrote:
<quoted text> they take pride in being African but they are not black. Not all africans look black, some of the natives don't even look like the stereotypical African Americans. Very different and African Americans are ignorant and don't educate themselves on their own people, and the continent in general.
Thank you. As an Africanist scholar, I can assure you that there is a racist conspiracy in the educational system in America to teach everybody racism and to deny us access to the available knowldege about Africa. I have spent a lifetieme seeking and finding the truth. If you do not work and fight hard for many years, you will never know the things that I have learned the hard way.

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#18 Jan 19, 2013
No, they don't.

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Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#20 Apr 11, 2013
MiMi wrote:
<quoted text> they take pride in being African but they are not black. Not all africans look black, some of the natives don't even look like the stereotypical African Americans. Very different and African Americans are ignorant and don't educate themselves on their own people, and the continent in general.
I agree with this.
Nyarlathotep

Redding, CA

#21 Apr 11, 2013
MiMi wrote:
<quoted text> they take pride in being African but they are not black. Not all africans look black, some of the natives don't even look like the stereotypical African Americans. Very different and African Americans are ignorant and don't educate themselves on their own people, and the continent in general.
Agreed.
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#22 Apr 12, 2013
Look at Mostafa Hefney's story

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#23 Jun 10, 2013
They're African, but not black. Remember, not all Africans are black.

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